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Wow, I've got a lot to go through, just read the link from the first page.

A quick question for anyone who might be able to help, instead of getting mad and telling me to read the whole thread first

goaway


What can i do while I'm alive to combat these nefarious bastards? Like, thru lucid dreaming perhaps?

Also, if I'm ever successful with initiating an out of body exp. how does one protect oneself from the negative/deceitful energies that are flying around the astral plane(s)?

Is it simply a matter of not fearing at all? Protective mantras, or prayers or some such thing?

Thx for any help offered
 Quoting: FuzzleFace


Short version for your answers.
Be very careful with OBE since there are many "predators" lurking in the astral planes. The astral plane is governed by these predators. You should be even more on your guard vs those "love and light" types which can make you feel blessed and loved. Also as some researchers pointed out dreams are a massive way to program us, lucid dreaming is i believe a good way to see their deceptions if YOU know where to look at and prepare to "fight" because they won't like it when YOU SEE THEM for what they are and doing to us in our dreams.

Mantras are BS see thread remember if it involves REPEATING, REPEATING, REPEATING, its mind control due to the repeating of the lie (famous words of hitler).

Prayers? imo prayers = prey they prey on prayers...see more on thread.

And fear is your warning listen to it it tries to tell you something... No fear is the state they try to sell you when you encounter these "lovely angels" in the astral. But let fear dictate you, you will destroy your self.

In a nutshell try to read the thread lots of good info.













And yes you should read the thread because all your answers can be found here cool2
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Wow, I've got a lot to go through, just read the link from the first page.

A quick question for anyone who might be able to help, instead of getting mad and telling me to read the whole thread first

goaway


What can i do while I'm alive to combat these nefarious bastards? Like, thru lucid dreaming perhaps?

Also, if I'm ever successful with initiating an out of body exp. how does one protect oneself from the negative/deceitful energies that are flying around the astral plane(s)?

Is it simply a matter of not fearing at all? Protective mantras, or prayers or some such thing?

Thx for any help offered
 Quoting: FuzzleFace


You have to come up with your own protection, or commands, prior to sleep. Don't copy anything you've learned. Use your willpower and creative consciousness to figure out a way to make sure you are aware during dreams. For me personally, it is necessary to be somewhat lucid at night to deconstruct the programming, otherwise i wake up drained and mentally fucked up.
I can say what I want to,
even if I'm not serious.
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Yeah some parts of the universe could be infected.
When listening to "adampants" aka "jonathanlives" he is one of the view who made an impression on me. He to talks about cancer consciousness and their henchmen...draco/greys and others. The infection is not some being(s) but also the "cosmic body" when he said this region is a mixture of "creation and miscreation" it made me think why would a healthy "COSMIC BODY" create a tape worm or a parasite that like to live in ones brains or heart...or disease carrying muscitos. Or vicious predators armed with sharp claws etc to rip a poor animal victim to shreds...the cosmic body is sick in some parts or even large parts of the universe (coming from different sources claiming the draco/archon has intense influence).

So yeah what Rees said in those articles sure does sound logical, and has in some cases the same view as adampants has. If i'm not mistaken both tell us there is a central source for this disease the beginning of this virus...it has many names like Yaldabaoth/Demiurge etc...it just hates free souls with sovereignty and joy and above all healthy it wants control out of chaos...(chaos could mean pure freedom but in a healthy way because everyone does not want to hurt a nother soul we all came from the same source so we are even/equal no point in "i am better then you games")
About that WW3 today i watched the news in a LONG time it was something about the african place called mali if i am not mistaken. Those military from the touareg clan (southern sahara people) where contracted by Kadaffi since its regime fell they returned to their regions...

Most of them are extreme islamic and have contacts with the "taliban". Thing is they want "Sharia" law but its spreading not only in mali but all of middle africa as well including nigeria and other countries you would not expect islamic rule...One of the politicians said we can't except spreading this extreme form of islam to europe even if it means military actions...

So i thought ok we know taliban has ties with the "c-eye-a"
And c-eye-a is ofcource draconian/archonic in nature...perhaps this could be another plan to come closer to perhaps the beginnings of WW3 i hope not...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1344892


This guy adampants just reminded me what azrael said in the video game draksiders to war.
[link to darksiders.wikia.com]

"The Universe... is sick, Horseman. The Charred Council refuses to admit it, but those of us who look... we see... we had to do something.
– Azrael to War"

But here comes the questions of critical thinking the lunar agents hate to death.

If the universal organism is sick just like the draconians that have occupied our solar system then why they try to kill it by blowing its mega cells/solar systems that will eventually like ghrees said will cause a chain reaction where the whole universe will go out with a bang, that same big bang today scientific shills claim that it gave life to our universe and purposely hide the destruction of the universe prior to that if a big bang really happened before.
A disease doesn't kill itself but the healthy cells devours/convert them and expands.

Also what a clever for a disease to justify its crimes against its host by saying the host/universal organism is sick that's why i'm killing it, and they can justify too the torture on humans and souls by using the famous catch phrase "the end justifies the means" where they will say we had to abuse the humans and their souls to gather power and bring the evil universal organism down!

Is it funny that religions too demonize the universal organism where just like the satanists gave him a form of a monster half goat/half human with horns.

Also about the abomination creatures like the tape worms mosquitoes etc how can you be so sure that the universal organism created them on our planet when our planet is under draconian occupation where with their technology they can and did genetically created the chinese race they have edited our dna and who knows what else, and all these sick creatures could be their creation of the disease and not of the universal organism.
When humans get sick or get tapeworms etc was their choice their creation? are they masochists and like to be sick and get tortured?
When monsanto(chinese owned corporation) mutates everything on our planet was our planet choice/creation?
Thread: ***Breaking*** China Owns Monsanto!
An ignorant who would eat gmo foods and get sick would blame the planet as he will see it growing on our planet but a informed one knows who to blame and where he needs to attack to kill the disease and save the planet just like the cosmic antibodies try to save the universe!

My above critical thinking just destroyed this new/old recycled trick of the lunar agents that try to convince us that our universe is sick and they rightfully destroy it.

Just like in a human body the one who tries to kill it is the disease and not the other way around.

If "adampants" aka "jonathanlives" really claims like azrael from darksiders that our universe/cosmic body is sick i would suggest you 892 to be very careful as to me it screams he's lunar agent.

Imagine tomorrow the corporations of this planet and especially the chinese that pollute destroy and kill our planet slowly, come out and demand a medal of honor for killing our sick planet!
cruise

The same way the lunar god sin sion sentai jedai jesus yahweh satan etc justifies the global human genocides he has committed and the one that's about to come.

He uses the excuse that humans are sinners/sick and need to be punished/exterminated.
Who made them sick in the first place?
Him!
And why he wants to destroy our solar system?(see revelations), if humans are the source of evil what the planets did to him, are they sinners too?rofl!
And how about the millions of babies he slaughtered in Egypt? Were they hardcore criminals that needed to be exterminated?, and i laugh at the way the religious zombies try to justify that crime by saying not all of them were babies. Yeah so the ones that got killed wasn't on purpose but collateral damage lol.

Hope by now 892 you understand the criminal intelligent mind they carry, where with this strategy you can destroy kill anything and anyone and get praised for doing so.

Same strategy china is using on america as we speak and that is the chinese puppets that rule america were ordered to start the wars in the middle east while at the same time the hebrew mongolian chinese puppets that control all media around the world demonized america as pure evil, and now china can come out as a messiah a punisher genocide america steal our land and the rest countries would praise her for doing so having no suspicion at all that their own asses are next!
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Wow, I've got a lot to go through, just read the link from the first page.

A quick question for anyone who might be able to help, instead of getting mad and telling me to read the whole thread first

goaway


What can i do while I'm alive to combat these nefarious bastards? Like, thru lucid dreaming perhaps?

Also, if I'm ever successful with initiating an out of body exp. how does one protect oneself from the negative/deceitful energies that are flying around the astral plane(s)?

Is it simply a matter of not fearing at all? Protective mantras, or prayers or some such thing?

Thx for any help offered
 Quoting: FuzzleFace


Short version for your answers.
Be very careful with OBE since there are many "predators" lurking in the astral planes. The astral plane is governed by these predators. You should be even more on your guard vs those "love and light" types which can make you feel blessed and loved. Also as some researchers pointed out dreams are a massive way to program us, lucid dreaming is i believe a good way to see their deceptions if YOU know where to look at and prepare to "fight" because they won't like it when YOU SEE THEM for what they are and doing to us in our dreams.

Mantras are BS see thread remember if it involves REPEATING, REPEATING, REPEATING, its mind control due to the repeating of the lie (famous words of hitler).

Prayers? imo prayers = prey they prey on prayers...see more on thread.

And fear is your warning listen to it it tries to tell you something... No fear is the state they try to sell you when you encounter these "lovely angels" in the astral. But let fear dictate you, you will destroy your self.

In a nutshell try to read the thread lots of good info.













And yes you should read the thread because all your answers can be found here cool2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1344892


I couldn't have said it better 892 thanks a lot!
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The Law, if I may put this poem here.

Poet Ella Wheeler Whilcox

The sun may be clouded, yet ever the sun
Will sweep on its course till the cycle is run.
And when onto chaos the systems are hurled,
Again shall the Creator/Destroyer reshape a new world out of chaos.

Your path may be clouded, uncertain your goal;
Move on, for the orbit is fixed for your soul.
And though it may lead into darkness of night,
The torch of the lunar god shall give you new light.follow the light

You were, and you will be: know this while you are,
Your spirit has travelled both long and afar.
It came from the moon, to the moon it returns;
The spark that was lighted, eternally burns.

It slept in the jewel, it leaped in the wave,
It roamed in the forest, it rose in the grave,
It took on strange garbs for long eons of years,
And now in the soul of yourself it appears.

From body to body your spirit speeds on;
It seeks a new form when the old one is gone;
And the form that it finds is the fabric you wrought
On the loom of the mind, with the fibre of thought.
it was your choice you signed the contract don't blame your owners or try to punish them

As dew is drawn upward, in rain to descend,
Your thoughts drift away and in destiny blend.
You cannot escape them; or petty, or great,
Or evil, or noble, they fashion your fate.
resistance is futile lol

Somewhere on some planet, sometime and somehow,
Your life will reflect all the thoughts of your now.
The law is unerring; no blood can atone;
The structure/life/file you rear you must live it alone.forget it let it be erased

From prison to prison, through time and through space,
Your lives with your longings will ever keep pace.
And all that you ask for, and all you desire,
Must come at your bidding, as flames out of fire.
everything is your choice you're a masochist that loves pain and torture

Once they got your number/soul and all tumult is done,
Your life is the life of the lunar god
In the hurrying race you are conscious of pause,
With love for the purpose and love for the cause.
love the way things are don't attempt to fix them or stop the worse to come

You are your own devil, you are your own God,
You fashioned the paths that your footsteps have trod;
it was your choice no mind control no manipulation no memory erasing had ever took place
And no one can save you from error or sin/sion/sentai/lunar god,
Until you shall hark to the watcher/inner voice/lunar fax within.
 Quoting: Starlit


See the edited version!

What the poet tried hard to say and write but didn't come out right due to too much shaking from being possessed.
cruise
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Yeah some parts of the universe could be infected.
When listening to "adampants" aka "jonathanlives" he is one of the view who made an impression on me. He to talks about cancer consciousness and their henchmen...draco/greys and others. The infection is not some being(s) but also the "cosmic body" when he said this region is a mixture of "creation and miscreation" it made me think why would a healthy "COSMIC BODY" create a tape worm or a parasite that like to live in ones brains or heart...or disease carrying muscitos. Or vicious predators armed with sharp claws etc to rip a poor animal victim to shreds...the cosmic body is sick in some parts or even large parts of the universe (coming from different sources claiming the draco/archon has intense influence).

So yeah what Rees said in those articles sure does sound logical, and has in some cases the same view as adampants has. If i'm not mistaken both tell us there is a central source for this disease the beginning of this virus...it has many names like Yaldabaoth/Demiurge etc...it just hates free souls with sovereignty and joy and above all healthy it wants control out of chaos...(chaos could mean pure freedom but in a healthy way because everyone does not want to hurt a nother soul we all came from the same source so we are even/equal no point in "i am better then you games")
About that WW3 today i watched the news in a LONG time it was something about the african place called mali if i am not mistaken. Those military from the touareg clan (southern sahara people) where contracted by Kadaffi since its regime fell they returned to their regions...

Most of them are extreme islamic and have contacts with the "taliban". Thing is they want "Sharia" law but its spreading not only in mali but all of middle africa as well including nigeria and other countries you would not expect islamic rule...One of the politicians said we can't except spreading this extreme form of islam to europe even if it means military actions...

So i thought ok we know taliban has ties with the "c-eye-a"
And c-eye-a is ofcource draconian/archonic in nature...perhaps this could be another plan to come closer to perhaps the beginnings of WW3 i hope not...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1344892


This guy adampants just reminded me what azrael said in the video game draksiders to war.
[link to darksiders.wikia.com]

"The Universe... is sick, Horseman. The Charred Council refuses to admit it, but those of us who look... we see... we had to do something.
– Azrael to War"

But here comes the questions of critical thinking the lunar agents hate to death.

If the universal organism is sick just like the draconians that have occupied our solar system then why they try to kill it by blowing its mega cells/solar systems that will eventually like ghrees said will cause a chain reaction where the whole universe will go out with a bang, that same big bang today scientific shills claim that it gave life to our universe and purposely hide the destruction of the universe prior to that if a big bang really happened before.
A disease doesn't kill itself but the healthy cells devours/convert them and expands.

Also what a clever for a disease to justify its crimes against its host by saying the host/universal organism is sick that's why i'm killing it, and they can justify too the torture on humans and souls by using the famous catch phrase "the end justifies the means" where they will say we had to abuse the humans and their souls to gather power and bring the evil universal organism down!

Is it funny that religions too demonize the universal organism where just like the satanists gave him a form of a monster half goat/half human with horns.

Also about the abomination creatures like the tape worms mosquitoes etc how can you be so sure that the universal organism created them on our planet when our planet is under draconian occupation where with their technology they can and did genetically created the chinese race they have edited our dna and who knows what else, and all these sick creatures could be their creation of the disease and not of the universal organism.
When humans get sick or get tapeworms etc was their choice their creation? are they masochists and like to be sick and get tortured?
When monsanto(chinese owned corporation) mutates everything on our planet was our planet choice/creation?
Thread: ***Breaking*** China Owns Monsanto!
An ignorant who would eat gmo foods and get sick would blame the planet as he will see it growing on our planet but a informed one knows who to blame and where he needs to attack to kill the disease and save the planet just like the cosmic antibodies try to save the universe!

My above critical thinking just destroyed this new/old recycled trick of the lunar agents that try to convince us that our universe is sick and they rightfully destroy it.

Just like in a human body the one who tries to kill it is the disease and not the other way around.

If "adampants" aka "jonathanlives" really claims like azrael from darksiders that our universe/cosmic body is sick i would suggest you 892 to be very careful as to me it screams he's lunar agent.

Imagine tomorrow the corporations of this planet and especially the chinese that pollute destroy and kill our planet slowly, come out and demand a medal of honor for killing our sick planet!
cruise

The same way the lunar god sin sion sentai jedai jesus yahweh satan etc justifies the global human genocides he has committed and the one that's about to come.

He uses the excuse that humans are sinners/sick and need to be punished/exterminated.
Who made them sick in the first place?
Him!
And why he wants to destroy our solar system?(see revelations), if humans are the source of evil what the planets did to him, are they sinners too?rofl!
And how about the millions of babies he slaughtered in Egypt? Were they hardcore criminals that needed to be exterminated?, and i laugh at the way the religious zombies try to justify that crime by saying not all of them were babies. Yeah so the ones that got killed wasn't on purpose but collateral damage lol.

Hope by now 892 you understand the criminal intelligent mind they carry, where with this strategy you can destroy kill anything and anyone and get praised for doing so.

Same strategy china is using on america as we speak and that is the chinese puppets that rule america were ordered to start the wars in the middle east while at the same time the hebrew mongolian chinese puppets that control all media around the world demonized america as pure evil, and now china can come out as a messiah a punisher genocide america steal our land and the rest countries would praise her for doing so having no suspicion at all that their own asses are next!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1494971


Il have to be short on my reply

Have you watched most of his video's? I mean there are over 15+ worth of his videos no music and no pictures (unless to prove a point). He never claimed destroy a sick "cell" aka universe.

I suggest watching his series to give the man a fair chance.
What he claims seems to me logical although as with all things people say take what resonates and throw the rest away.

Here is one to pounder about:
When water/plants are subjected to hatred or dark heavy metal music its cells deform into crippled cells...frequency...

When the same water/plants is subjected to good hearted music its molocule/cells are healthy...frequency...

Sick vs healthy...
Never did he said destroy this evil universe...i don't know where you got it or it seem to me a suggestion that it was he who said it....

Not every other researcher is a lunar agent
Heck even Rees could be a crafty dangerous lunar agent for warning us about lunar agents ä good tactic to hide one self true intention naimly deception. I'm just saying OP.
And yeah i'm trying to be carefull for those researchers to many times i got "duped" now it seems the better we are "aware" the better these lunar agents work to distract us....
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Wow, I've got a lot to go through, just read the link from the first page.

A quick question for anyone who might be able to help, instead of getting mad and telling me to read the whole thread first

goaway


What can i do while I'm alive to combat these nefarious bastards? Like, thru lucid dreaming perhaps?

Also, if I'm ever successful with initiating an out of body exp. how does one protect oneself from the negative/deceitful energies that are flying around the astral plane(s)?

Is it simply a matter of not fearing at all? Protective mantras, or prayers or some such thing?

Thx for any help offered
 Quoting: FuzzleFace


Short version for your answers.
Be very careful with OBE since there are many "predators" lurking in the astral planes. The astral plane is governed by these predators. You should be even more on your guard vs those "love and light" types which can make you feel blessed and loved. Also as some researchers pointed out dreams are a massive way to program us, lucid dreaming is i believe a good way to see their deceptions if YOU know where to look at and prepare to "fight" because they won't like it when YOU SEE THEM for what they are and doing to us in our dreams.

Mantras are BS see thread remember if it involves REPEATING, REPEATING, REPEATING, its mind control due to the repeating of the lie (famous words of hitler).

Prayers? imo prayers = prey they prey on prayers...see more on thread.

And fear is your warning listen to it it tries to tell you something... No fear is the state they try to sell you when you encounter these "lovely angels" in the astral. But let fear dictate you, you will destroy your self.

In a nutshell try to read the thread lots of good info.



And yes you should read the thread because all your answers can be found here cool2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1344892


Right on man, thanks for your advice! I've never believed in the power of prayers or mantras, well at least, those received from outside sources. Well that was the encouragement I need to explore this whole thread, much obliged!

cheers
*Insert divine/esoteric wisdom here: N/A*
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Wow, I've got a lot to go through, just read the link from the first page.

A quick question for anyone who might be able to help, instead of getting mad and telling me to read the whole thread first

goaway


What can i do while I'm alive to combat these nefarious bastards? Like, thru lucid dreaming perhaps?

Also, if I'm ever successful with initiating an out of body exp. how does one protect oneself from the negative/deceitful energies that are flying around the astral plane(s)?

Is it simply a matter of not fearing at all? Protective mantras, or prayers or some such thing?

Thx for any help offered
 Quoting: FuzzleFace


You have to come up with your own protection, or commands, prior to sleep. Don't copy anything you've learned. Use your willpower and creative consciousness to figure out a way to make sure you are aware during dreams. For me personally, it is necessary to be somewhat lucid at night to deconstruct the programming, otherwise i wake up drained and mentally fucked up.
 Quoting: BossBattles



Dig it, thanks for the tips!
*Insert divine/esoteric wisdom here: N/A*
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Yeah some parts of the universe could be infected.
When listening to "adampants" aka "jonathanlives" he is one of the view who made an impression on me. He to talks about cancer consciousness and their henchmen...draco/greys and others. The infection is not some being(s) but also the "cosmic body" when he said this region is a mixture of "creation and miscreation" it made me think why would a healthy "COSMIC BODY" create a tape worm or a parasite that like to live in ones brains or heart...or disease carrying muscitos. Or vicious predators armed with sharp claws etc to rip a poor animal victim to shreds...the cosmic body is sick in some parts or even large parts of the universe (coming from different sources claiming the draco/archon has intense influence).

So yeah what Rees said in those articles sure does sound logical, and has in some cases the same view as adampants has. If i'm not mistaken both tell us there is a central source for this disease the beginning of this virus...it has many names like Yaldabaoth/Demiurge etc...it just hates free souls with sovereignty and joy and above all healthy it wants control out of chaos...(chaos could mean pure freedom but in a healthy way because everyone does not want to hurt a nother soul we all came from the same source so we are even/equal no point in "i am better then you games")
About that WW3 today i watched the news in a LONG time it was something about the african place called mali if i am not mistaken. Those military from the touareg clan (southern sahara people) where contracted by Kadaffi since its regime fell they returned to their regions...

Most of them are extreme islamic and have contacts with the "taliban". Thing is they want "Sharia" law but its spreading not only in mali but all of middle africa as well including nigeria and other countries you would not expect islamic rule...One of the politicians said we can't except spreading this extreme form of islam to europe even if it means military actions...

So i thought ok we know taliban has ties with the "c-eye-a"
And c-eye-a is ofcource draconian/archonic in nature...perhaps this could be another plan to come closer to perhaps the beginnings of WW3 i hope not...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1344892


This guy adampants just reminded me what azrael said in the video game draksiders to war.
[link to darksiders.wikia.com]

"The Universe... is sick, Horseman. The Charred Council refuses to admit it, but those of us who look... we see... we had to do something.
– Azrael to War"

But here comes the questions of critical thinking the lunar agents hate to death.

If the universal organism is sick just like the draconians that have occupied our solar system then why they try to kill it by blowing its mega cells/solar systems that will eventually like ghrees said will cause a chain reaction where the whole universe will go out with a bang, that same big bang today scientific shills claim that it gave life to our universe and purposely hide the destruction of the universe prior to that if a big bang really happened before.
A disease doesn't kill itself but the healthy cells devours/convert them and expands.

Also what a clever for a disease to justify its crimes against its host by saying the host/universal organism is sick that's why i'm killing it, and they can justify too the torture on humans and souls by using the famous catch phrase "the end justifies the means" where they will say we had to abuse the humans and their souls to gather power and bring the evil universal organism down!

Is it funny that religions too demonize the universal organism where just like the satanists gave him a form of a monster half goat/half human with horns.

Also about the abomination creatures like the tape worms mosquitoes etc how can you be so sure that the universal organism created them on our planet when our planet is under draconian occupation where with their technology they can and did genetically created the chinese race they have edited our dna and who knows what else, and all these sick creatures could be their creation of the disease and not of the universal organism.
When humans get sick or get tapeworms etc was their choice their creation? are they masochists and like to be sick and get tortured?
When monsanto(chinese owned corporation) mutates everything on our planet was our planet choice/creation?
Thread: ***Breaking*** China Owns Monsanto!
An ignorant who would eat gmo foods and get sick would blame the planet as he will see it growing on our planet but a informed one knows who to blame and where he needs to attack to kill the disease and save the planet just like the cosmic antibodies try to save the universe!

My above critical thinking just destroyed this new/old recycled trick of the lunar agents that try to convince us that our universe is sick and they rightfully destroy it.

Just like in a human body the one who tries to kill it is the disease and not the other way around.

If "adampants" aka "jonathanlives" really claims like azrael from darksiders that our universe/cosmic body is sick i would suggest you 892 to be very careful as to me it screams he's lunar agent.

Imagine tomorrow the corporations of this planet and especially the chinese that pollute destroy and kill our planet slowly, come out and demand a medal of honor for killing our sick planet!
cruise

The same way the lunar god sin sion sentai jedai jesus yahweh satan etc justifies the global human genocides he has committed and the one that's about to come.

He uses the excuse that humans are sinners/sick and need to be punished/exterminated.
Who made them sick in the first place?
Him!
And why he wants to destroy our solar system?(see revelations), if humans are the source of evil what the planets did to him, are they sinners too?rofl!
And how about the millions of babies he slaughtered in Egypt? Were they hardcore criminals that needed to be exterminated?, and i laugh at the way the religious zombies try to justify that crime by saying not all of them were babies. Yeah so the ones that got killed wasn't on purpose but collateral damage lol.

Hope by now 892 you understand the criminal intelligent mind they carry, where with this strategy you can destroy kill anything and anyone and get praised for doing so.

Same strategy china is using on america as we speak and that is the chinese puppets that rule america were ordered to start the wars in the middle east while at the same time the hebrew mongolian chinese puppets that control all media around the world demonized america as pure evil, and now china can come out as a messiah a punisher genocide america steal our land and the rest countries would praise her for doing so having no suspicion at all that their own asses are next!
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Il have to be short on my reply

Have you watched most of his video's? I mean there are over 15+ worth of his videos no music and no pictures (unless to prove a point). He never claimed destroy a sick "cell" aka universe.

I suggest watching his series to give the man a fair chance.
What he claims seems to me logical although as with all things people say take what resonates and throw the rest away.

Here is one to pounder about:
When water/plants are subjected to hatred or dark heavy metal music its cells deform into crippled cells...frequency...

When the same water/plants is subjected to good hearted music its molocule/cells are healthy...frequency...

Sick vs healthy...
Never did he said destroy this evil universe...i don't know where you got it or it seem to me a suggestion that it was he who said it....

Not every other researcher is a lunar agent
Heck even Rees could be a crafty dangerous lunar agent for warning us about lunar agents ä good tactic to hide one self true intention naimly deception. I'm just saying OP.
And yeah i'm trying to be carefull for those researchers to many times i got "duped" now it seems the better we are "aware" the better these lunar agents work to distract us....
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You misunderstood my post, I didn't say he said to destroy the universe but when one says "the universe/cosmic body is sick/evil" he prepares the way for the masses to accept its destruction. That was the message i tried to pass on my last post.
Same strategy was done in the darksiders where there too they didn't say we must destroy the universe but tried to convince us that the universe is sick, so we accept the galactic criminals' solution aka the destruction of it and not try to stop them.

To give you a simple example when you have a beautiful animal in your possession and you wanna kill it but you worry your neighbors will see you as evil when you do so, you simply poison it make it sick then your neighbors will thank you for killing it so they don't catch the disease your animal carries.

Same thing they've done to the humans on this planet they have corrupted them to the point so that their extermination will look like a good thing, hope you get my point now.

I have also raised criticism on my favorite source ghrees and have said to trust no one even ghrees but do try and use everybody to your advantage. I have also point out flaws on ghrees documents like they purposely hold back important vital info but they at least are honest to inform us about it.

see in the comments of this article
[link to hellenandchaos.blogspot.com]
First comment of ellen vs chaos:
"@Celest:
We cannot release more information about the soul traps. All you need to know is in this last post entitled "Cancerous entrapped reincarnation dragonian - lunar policy (cause) and Universal Hierarchy arriving Judges (effect)" and the relevant links found in the end of the post. Further info may panic and terify the people and our purpose is not to spread panic but to restore the healthy natural function as beings and individuals in order for the white and black awakened races to act as healers-cells of the universal organism and to foil the sinozionistic armageddon planetary destruction genocidal schemes.

@truthshallrise: Be patient my friend. Their days are numbered and they will pay for their genocidal crimes and for their disgraceful thousand years collusion role play of God-Good vs Evil-Devil. Other far superior forces are responsible for their punishment. You must stay focused down here on earth in order to foil world war iii and the sinozionistic motivated armageddon. Think of 2012 as a positive awakening and evolutionary step for earth and humanity and act likewise."

When you find and point out more flaws of ghrees i'll be grateful instead of getting upset for attacking my favorite source.

Our ancestors improved their intelligence through hard debates if we simply agree with each other that equals to no improvement.

I just went back to check jonathanlives youtube page and yeah i've seen many of his videos and they do contain amazing intel, i had forgot it was that guy when i read your post but i still stand strong behind my criticism on him saying according to you "our universe is sick" as it's a grave mistake!

When someone takes notice of a mistake you i or anyone else does we should be grateful to him as we're not here to only inform others but to improve ourselves too as no one has all the pieces of the puzzle.

And by all means to the viewers of this thread don't let my criticism refrain you from checking any source as if they're lunar agents by checking them out you get an idea how they operate and through other people's criticism it gets easier for one to separate the truth from lies.

It's like when you're a judge in a court you need to hear both sides before you make your mind, if you simply hear what one guy says you'll be biased on your decision!

A great example is for one to think how most people get into believing in a religion, did they heard both opposite sides before they made their choice? or they simple heard the one side only "their parents for example" and made their decision?
Also the opposite side needs to be as credible as the first one as most kids are programmed to listen only to their parents or teachers.
When you have 2 same credible opposite sides in front of you that's when it puts your mind/critical thinking into a good challenge!
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I never got any sense that "adampants" was some sort of agent. He actually is one of the few thay offers useful information on how to live in this world.
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Check my last post bossbattles, i got very alarmed when i read that he said "the cosmic body/universal organism is sick" as i took notice of how dangerous the result this can bring to the masses is aka the acceptance of the destruction of our universe, what our owners/the disease of the universe really wants are after and is their final goal!

I had totally forgot who jonathanlives is as long time has pass since the last time i saw any of his videos and when i saw most of them i didn't pay attention on the channel name, as also many of them were embedded on this thread.

I still stand strong behind my criticism on what he said according to 892 as like max payne(the new game i'm playing lol) says "it only takes one rotten apple!" to contaminate your whole picture!
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I never got any sense that "adampants" was some sort of agent. He actually is one of the few thay offers useful information on how to live in this world.
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Check my last post bossbattles, i got very alarmed when i read that he said "the cosmic body/universal organism is sick" as i took notice of how dangerous the result this can bring to the masses is aka the acceptance of the destruction of our universe, what our owners/the disease of the universe really wants are after and is their final goal!

I had totally forgot who jonathanlives is as long time has pass since the last time i saw any of his videos and when i saw most of them i didn't pay attention on the channel name, as also many of them were embedded on this thread.

I still stand strong behind my criticism on what he said according to 892 as like max payne(the new game i'm playing lol) says "it only takes one rotten apple!" to contaminate your whole picture!
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I've thrown away every belief and security blanket i've ever had or been given, so it wouldn't be a problem to disregard any research or info, including everything i've ever read on this entire thread or anything ive ever said here.
It is an ongoing process, and we all should probably be prepared to be wrong at any time, so i agree we shouldn't hang our hats on any one or anything completely.

There are so many possible angles on perception that its sometimes hard to know which angle someone is speaking from, and perhaps that is what often causes interpretations of what is read or heard to be slightly different, which makes our job so hard because details are important, and the difference between good info and bad info is so blurred that we are quickly reaching a point where we may need to ignore all info on the internet, and go back to some basics, and simply "know thyself" as best as we can before we check out of this house of horrors.

Definitely feel on the verge of some total 180 twist in understanding of all this......but again....how do we confirm anything at all? We are in the dark, looking for a light switch that may not even be there.
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I never got any sense that "adampants" was some sort of agent. He actually is one of the few thay offers useful information on how to live in this world.
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Check my last post bossbattles, i got very alarmed when i read that he said "the cosmic body/universal organism is sick" as i took notice of how dangerous the result this can bring to the masses is aka the acceptance of the destruction of our universe, what our owners/the disease of the universe really wants are after and is their final goal!

I had totally forgot who jonathanlives is as long time has pass since the last time i saw any of his videos and when i saw most of them i didn't pay attention on the channel name, as also many of them were embedded on this thread.

I still stand strong behind my criticism on what he said according to 892 as like max payne(the new game i'm playing lol) says "it only takes one rotten apple!" to contaminate your whole picture!
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I've thrown away every belief and security blanket i've ever had or been given, so it wouldn't be a problem to disregard any research or info, including everything i've ever read on this entire thread or anything ive ever said here.
It is an ongoing process, and we all should probably be prepared to be wrong at any time, so i agree we shouldn't hang our hats on any one or anything completely.

There are so many possible angles on perception that its sometimes hard to know which angle someone is speaking from, and perhaps that is what often causes interpretations of what is read or heard to be slightly different, which makes our job so hard because details are important, and the difference between good info and bad info is so blurred that we are quickly reaching a point where we may need to ignore all info on the internet, and go back to some basics, and simply "know thyself" as best as we can before we check out of this house of horrors.

Definitely feel on the verge of some total 180 twist in understanding of all this......but again....how do we confirm anything at all? We are in the dark, looking for a light switch that may not even be there.
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I tend to disagree with this post bossbattles, it looks to me you're giving up, i know it's hard to get all the pieces of the puzzle and the internet it is flooded with shills and lunar agents but when they get exposed i don't give up and go back to sleep forgetting everything i read, as like i said before lunar agents give truth mixed with lies where when you believe everything they say you'll believe their lies and most people when they catch them on a lie they disregard everything they heard thinking it was all lies aka they consider even the truths they were given as lies.

Here are the basics for me:
1)Energy cannot be created or destroyed but only transformed
2)Nothing comes from nothing
3)Everything has a - + side
3)Our ancient memories have been erased
4)The moon is an artificial satellite
5)Memory erasing technology
6)Neutrino telescopes seeing the ghost particle/soul dimension.
7)The universe is like a human body, an alive conscious organism with the planets as it's mega cells and humans as it's microorganisms.
8)We're not alone in the universe.

The list goes on and on but those were just a few i just thought.

These are hardcore facts if you were to disregard them simply because you got disappointed or tired researching it's a grave mistake.

And by the way when you spoke of reaching the point to ignore all info on the internet it kinda told me your research doesn't have a strong foundation like the 8 facts i mentioned now that's a hardcore foundation that anyone can expand on it build skyscrapers of thoughts and research without worrying getting collapsed.

Internet is the best tool for a researcher out there if you were to give it up, imagine you're in a fight with a fiery dragon and you put down a 50 cal with armor piercing rounds and continue the fight with a pocket knife.
cruise

There's a very good reason our owners wanna censor the internet as they don't have total control on the flow of info that goes through it like they have on tv newspapers etc.

Have you read raymond drake's book "gods and spacemen throughout history?" that's a book with an amazing research full with evidence from ancient times, i had posted a link to it.
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I was amazed by the intel i got from this video but i was amazed even more on the traps it contained!
After 5:00 he talks about beings helping you get out of body, some of them being good not always bad, some of them could be an alien a grey an annunaki a mantis etc.
I was like damn this guy is dangerous, he reminded the movie ink where ink pulled a little girl's soul out of her body to steal it! But the movie that takes the cake with pulling souls out of bodies and stealing them is "The Chronicles of Riddick". Do you remember the big boss there "helping" his victims' souls get out of body by simply pulling them out by force?
cruise
Then this guy rich goes ahead and makes fun of the people that will fear and like riddick did, resist getting pulled out of their body.
Yeah i had my doubts about this guy, the avatar with the crescent moon on top of his head raised my suspicion but after this video i have no doubts that i have a lunar agent in front of my eyes.
If you continue watching his video you'll see him admitting in a funny way what he does is for the money(a money making deal he called it), then goes ahead and does the trick 2 did in the prisoner's series saying "i exaggerate of course... but only slightly!".
I find it interesting the common thing shills, lunar agents etc have and that is they love making money, their main goal is not to inform you or stop/foil the worse to come but simply take advantage of situations to put some money in their pockets while at the same time consciously or unconsciously help carrying out their owners' plans.
Bashar, david dicke, fat disinfo agent on youtube are a great a example, they hit 2 birds with 1 stone and that is from what they do not only they carry their owners' agenda but getting rich for doing so too!

At 10:53 he says it's ok to forget everything when you reincarnate, what a scumbag!
As i continue watching at 11:40 i found funny when he talked about a guy that falls from a cliff his soul would exit the body before it hits the ground lol.
Then he says when people die they see their friends(demons in disguise) and they might even have a spacecraft or a big mothership/moon(he actually programs you to board one after death!).
Then he says they come back and reincarnate again, yeah nothing bad happened when they boarded that spaceship/mothership etc like truman cash has informed us that's where the process of memory erasing takes place and we're actually get programmed to return to it when we die again as humans.
When this guy rich said and threw the blame on us "that it's us who shut off access to our old memories cause we don't want to relive the pain" i started wondering if that's a way the draconians program us to never look at the place/memory bank where our old memories are buried/stored by placing an implant of fear and pain in front of it.
When he start talking about recalling early similar experiences like you see a person for the first time and you feel you've seen him before etc cause you're recalling past lives memories, this intel i found it amazing as it reminded me my personal experiences when i was 2-6 years old, i would go to places for the first time i would see people for the first time etc all never seen before but the moment i looked at them i would get a strong feeling a flashback that i've seen them before, which would make me question my parents that told me i didn't exist before.

Lastly this guy rich is talking about past life regression and releasing the fear(that could be a warning to be careful) and he makes it sound as a good thing and pay attention what he says next "cause then when you're out of body and see dark shadow motherf*ckers with big red eyes, men in black, goblin, et, etc and there was some real pain there(fight for your soul's life!) it's not a big deal!"

The fear is gone the memory is gone and you're ready to step into the same traps make the same mistakes get erased men in black style again and reincarnate.

That sums it all up, as a whole i found it a very interested video and very informative when you take notice of the traps cause then it's like getting free food out of a fisherman's hook and i know they really hate it when you do!
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I never got any sense that "adampants" was some sort of agent. He actually is one of the few thay offers useful information on how to live in this world.
 Quoting: BossBattles


Check my last post bossbattles, i got very alarmed when i read that he said "the cosmic body/universal organism is sick" as i took notice of how dangerous the result this can bring to the masses is aka the acceptance of the destruction of our universe, what our owners/the disease of the universe really wants are after and is their final goal!

I had totally forgot who jonathanlives is as long time has pass since the last time i saw any of his videos and when i saw most of them i didn't pay attention on the channel name, as also many of them were embedded on this thread.

I still stand strong behind my criticism on what he said according to 892 as like max payne(the new game i'm playing lol) says "it only takes one rotten apple!" to contaminate your whole picture!
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I've thrown away every belief and security blanket i've ever had or been given, so it wouldn't be a problem to disregard any research or info, including everything i've ever read on this entire thread or anything ive ever said here.
It is an ongoing process, and we all should probably be prepared to be wrong at any time, so i agree we shouldn't hang our hats on any one or anything completely.

There are so many possible angles on perception that its sometimes hard to know which angle someone is speaking from, and perhaps that is what often causes interpretations of what is read or heard to be slightly different, which makes our job so hard because details are important, and the difference between good info and bad info is so blurred that we are quickly reaching a point where we may need to ignore all info on the internet, and go back to some basics, and simply "know thyself" as best as we can before we check out of this house of horrors.

Definitely feel on the verge of some total 180 twist in understanding of all this......but again....how do we confirm anything at all? We are in the dark, looking for a light switch that may not even be there.
 Quoting: BossBattles


I tend to disagree with this post bossbattles, it looks to me you're giving up, i know it's hard to get all the pieces of the puzzle and the internet it is flooded with shills and lunar agents but when they get exposed i don't give up and go back to sleep forgetting everything i read, as like i said before lunar agents give truth mixed with lies where when you believe everything they say you'll believe their lies and most people when they catch them on a lie they disregard everything they heard thinking it was all lies aka they consider even the truths they were given as lies.

Here are the basics for me:
1)Energy cannot be created or destroyed but only transformed
2)Nothing comes from nothing
3)Everything has a - + side
3)Our ancient memories have been erased
4)The moon is an artificial satellite
5)Memory erasing technology
6)Neutrino telescopes seeing the ghost particle/soul dimension.
7)The universe is like a human body, an alive conscious organism with the planets as it's mega cells and humans as it's microorganisms.
8)We're not alone in the universe.

The list goes on and on but those were just a few i just thought.

These are hardcore facts if you were to disregard them simply because you got disappointed or tired researching it's a grave mistake.

And by the way when you spoke of reaching the point to ignore all info on the internet it kinda told me your research doesn't have a strong foundation like the 8 facts i mentioned now that's a hardcore foundation that anyone can expand on it build skyscrapers of thoughts and research without worrying getting collapsed.

Internet is the best tool for a researcher out there if you were to give it up, imagine you're in a fight with a fiery dragon and you put down a 50 cal with armor piercing rounds and continue the fight with a pocket knife.
cruise

There's a very good reason our owners wanna censor the internet as they don't have total control on the flow of info that goes through it like they have on tv newspapers etc.

Have you read raymond drake's book "gods and spacemen throughout history?" that's a book with an amazing research full with evidence from ancient times, i had posted a link to it.
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I don't know where i said i was giving up. I was making the point that I'm willing to drop any bit of knowledge if it means i will further my understanding of what is going on and how to deal with it.

Currently, i generally agree to the possibilities of what you put on your list there, and that is why I'm on this particular thread discussing it. I think that perhaps i'm experiencing a phase of burnout, considering I've been crunching information and ideas in my head for many many years now, realizing that much of it was total bullshit.

I'm asking the question: Is there another way? i'm open to new ideas or strategies, as well as changing course for a time to find out if i can reach some new inner layers within by not constantly stuffing my brain with a new theory every hour on the hour via the internet.

I maintain a collection of ideas and thoughts that make up my personal version of what this reality is, and that could never be conveyed or really shared, because our perception of our world differ greatly even if we share similar outlooks. I'm really getting down to the crux of our limitation, and seeing that there could be some major flaw in how we accept and process information.

Have you ever seen the movie Pi? Or the movie EXAM? i recommend both. Those two films show brilliantly how you can be sent to your demise or insanity by attempting to "figure out" an answer to a "problem", when the simplest answer was right there in the question and required absolutely NO EFFORT.

I feel as though even considering many of these ideas (on the internet) is an act of pinching oneself, and then forgetting that you're pinching yourself, you begin to search for the source of the pain, when all along all you had to do was release the pressure.

Pi:

[link to www.youtube.com]

Exam:

[link to www.youtube.com]

PS. In watching these two trailers again, it could easily be a message on how we spend our time in these bodies seeking and not finding all the way until death, only to be recycled again with no memory of the time wasted. LOL.

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I was amazed by the intel i got from this video but i was amazed even more on the traps it contained!
After 5:00 he talks about beings helping you get out of body, some of them being good not always bad, some of them could be an alien a grey an annunaki a mantis etc.
I was like damn this guy is dangerous, he reminded the movie ink where ink pulled a little girl's soul out of her body to steal it! But the movie that takes the cake with pulling souls out of bodies and stealing them is "The Chronicles of Riddick". Do you remember the big boss there "helping" his victims' souls get out of body by simply pulling them out by force?
cruise
Then this guy rich goes ahead and makes fun of the people that will fear and like riddick did, resist getting pulled out of their body.
Yeah i had my doubts about this guy, the avatar with the crescent moon on top of his head raised my suspicion but after this video i have no doubts that i have a lunar agent in front of my eyes.
If you continue watching his video you'll see him admitting in a funny way what he does is for the money(a money making deal he called it), then goes ahead and does the trick 2 did in the prisoner's series saying "i exaggerate of course... but only slightly!".
I find it interesting the common thing shills, lunar agents etc have and that is they love making money, their main goal is not to inform you or stop/foil the worse to come but simply take advantage of situations to put some money in their pockets while at the same time consciously or unconsciously help carrying out their owners' plans.
Bashar, david dicke, fat disinfo agent on youtube are a great a example, they hit 2 birds with 1 stone and that is from what they do not only they carry their owners' agenda but getting rich for doing so too!

At 10:53 he says it's ok to forget everything when you reincarnate, what a scumbag!
As i continue watching at 11:40 i found funny when he talked about a guy that falls from a cliff his soul would exit the body before it hits the ground lol.
Then he says when people die they see their friends(demons in disguise) and they might even have a spacecraft or a big mothership/moon(he actually programs you to board one after death!).
Then he says they come back and reincarnate again, yeah nothing bad happened when they boarded that spaceship/mothership etc like truman cash has informed us that's where the process of memory erasing takes place and we're actually get programmed to return to it when we die again as humans.
When this guy rich said and threw the blame on us "that it's us who shut off access to our old memories cause we don't want to relive the pain" i started wondering if that's a way the draconians program us to never look at the place/memory bank where our old memories are buried/stored by placing an implant of fear and pain in front of it.
When he start talking about recalling early similar experiences like you see a person for the first time and you feel you've seen him before etc cause you're recalling past lives memories, this intel i found it amazing as it reminded me my personal experiences when i was 2-6 years old, i would go to places for the first time i would see people for the first time etc all never seen before but the moment i looked at them i would get a strong feeling a flashback that i've seen them before, which would make me question my parents that told me i didn't exist before.

Lastly this guy rich is talking about past life regression and releasing the fear(that could be a warning to be careful) and he makes it sound as a good thing and pay attention what he says next "cause then when you're out of body and see dark shadow motherf*ckers with big red eyes, men in black, goblin, et, etc and there was some real pain there(fight for your soul's life!) it's not a big deal!"

The fear is gone the memory is gone and you're ready to step into the same traps make the same mistakes get erased men in black style again and reincarnate.

That sums it all up, as a whole i found it a very interested video and very informative when you take notice of the traps cause then it's like getting free food out of a fisherman's hook and i know they really hate it when you do!
cruise
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Lemme guess....THIS GUY is gonna HELP us heal our old painful memories???

cruise

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Funny how these people show up out of nowhere and suddenly become "known" to the crowd that would be researching such topics. It always seems to happen so quickly and smoothly for these kinds of guys/girls.

Sorry, but I don't give a shit about old painful memories hurting me. I can take it. I want my memories, regardless of what they are, because it would include evidence of what i am and what ive been subjected to and what i've been doing. There is no reason why i would AVOID that information.
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bossbattles. search nobody has new video thread. 3rd or so post, read it. everything is theater, especially alternative media.
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Op regarding the series "dollhouse"
What do you see when the episode ends and the ending credits start?

You have a scene above the sleeping places for the mind controlled slaves from above. There are 5 sleeping places (pentagram..) and in the middle you have an OCTAGON...what does it mean? They make sure you LOOK AT IT!
As with all movies or tv series when the camera focuses a bit longer to an object or some place it usually means something...

look at these links please:
Dollhouse...
[link to www.scificool.com]

Most churches have octagon towers
[link to www.travelblog.org]

Eastern religious symbol...you will love this one.
[link to www.crestock.com]

The mekka square is octagon shape as do many minarets
[link to syedquadri.weebly.com]

fight fight
[link to www.fightmania.com]

from the tv serie lost...
[link to lostpedia.wikia.com]

stop or die
[link to www.clker.com]

And many many more of these mind control implants, remember the scene in mission impossible when he descends...into an octagon room. Or the 19 sigarette package its an octagon! to me the octagon represents amnesia/death, depends on the context of how its used. Take a look. Their weapons include symbols.
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These places (and things) in the shape of the octagon are places (or can be places) of high emotion.

Also, search "octagon magic symbols" on google. One in particular I found really interesting was Octagon Mystic.
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Check my last post bossbattles, i got very alarmed when i read that he said "the cosmic body/universal organism is sick" as i took notice of how dangerous the result this can bring to the masses is aka the acceptance of the destruction of our universe, what our owners/the disease of the universe really wants are after and is their final goal!

I had totally forgot who jonathanlives is as long time has pass since the last time i saw any of his videos and when i saw most of them i didn't pay attention on the channel name, as also many of them were embedded on this thread.

I still stand strong behind my criticism on what he said according to 892 as like max payne(the new game i'm playing lol) says "it only takes one rotten apple!" to contaminate your whole picture!
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I've thrown away every belief and security blanket i've ever had or been given, so it wouldn't be a problem to disregard any research or info, including everything i've ever read on this entire thread or anything ive ever said here.
It is an ongoing process, and we all should probably be prepared to be wrong at any time, so i agree we shouldn't hang our hats on any one or anything completely.

There are so many possible angles on perception that its sometimes hard to know which angle someone is speaking from, and perhaps that is what often causes interpretations of what is read or heard to be slightly different, which makes our job so hard because details are important, and the difference between good info and bad info is so blurred that we are quickly reaching a point where we may need to ignore all info on the internet, and go back to some basics, and simply "know thyself" as best as we can before we check out of this house of horrors.

Definitely feel on the verge of some total 180 twist in understanding of all this......but again....how do we confirm anything at all? We are in the dark, looking for a light switch that may not even be there.
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I tend to disagree with this post bossbattles, it looks to me you're giving up, i know it's hard to get all the pieces of the puzzle and the internet it is flooded with shills and lunar agents but when they get exposed i don't give up and go back to sleep forgetting everything i read, as like i said before lunar agents give truth mixed with lies where when you believe everything they say you'll believe their lies and most people when they catch them on a lie they disregard everything they heard thinking it was all lies aka they consider even the truths they were given as lies.

Here are the basics for me:
1)Energy cannot be created or destroyed but only transformed
2)Nothing comes from nothing
3)Everything has a - + side
3)Our ancient memories have been erased
4)The moon is an artificial satellite
5)Memory erasing technology
6)Neutrino telescopes seeing the ghost particle/soul dimension.
7)The universe is like a human body, an alive conscious organism with the planets as it's mega cells and humans as it's microorganisms.
8)We're not alone in the universe.

The list goes on and on but those were just a few i just thought.

These are hardcore facts if you were to disregard them simply because you got disappointed or tired researching it's a grave mistake.

And by the way when you spoke of reaching the point to ignore all info on the internet it kinda told me your research doesn't have a strong foundation like the 8 facts i mentioned now that's a hardcore foundation that anyone can expand on it build skyscrapers of thoughts and research without worrying getting collapsed.

Internet is the best tool for a researcher out there if you were to give it up, imagine you're in a fight with a fiery dragon and you put down a 50 cal with armor piercing rounds and continue the fight with a pocket knife.
cruise

There's a very good reason our owners wanna censor the internet as they don't have total control on the flow of info that goes through it like they have on tv newspapers etc.

Have you read raymond drake's book "gods and spacemen throughout history?" that's a book with an amazing research full with evidence from ancient times, i had posted a link to it.
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I don't know where i said i was giving up. I was making the point that I'm willing to drop any bit of knowledge if it means i will further my understanding of what is going on and how to deal with it.

Currently, i generally agree to the possibilities of what you put on your list there, and that is why I'm on this particular thread discussing it. I think that perhaps i'm experiencing a phase of burnout, considering I've been crunching information and ideas in my head for many many years now, realizing that much of it was total bullshit.

I'm asking the question: Is there another way? i'm open to new ideas or strategies, as well as changing course for a time to find out if i can reach some new inner layers within by not constantly stuffing my brain with a new theory every hour on the hour via the internet.

I maintain a collection of ideas and thoughts that make up my personal version of what this reality is, and that could never be conveyed or really shared, because our perception of our world differ greatly even if we share similar outlooks. I'm really getting down to the crux of our limitation, and seeing that there could be some major flaw in how we accept and process information.

Have you ever seen the movie Pi? Or the movie EXAM? i recommend both. Those two films show brilliantly how you can be sent to your demise or insanity by attempting to "figure out" an answer to a "problem", when the simplest answer was right there in the question and required absolutely NO EFFORT.

I feel as though even considering many of these ideas (on the internet) is an act of pinching oneself, and then forgetting that you're pinching yourself, you begin to search for the source of the pain, when all along all you had to do was release the pressure.

Pi:

[link to www.youtube.com]

Exam:

[link to www.youtube.com]

PS. In watching these two trailers again, it could easily be a message on how we spend our time in these bodies seeking and not finding all the way until death, only to be recycled again with no memory of the time wasted. LOL.
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You were giving the impression you were giving up, when you say to disregard all evidence that were presented in this thread even everything you said without providing any good reason(counter evidence) why, it gave me the impression of taking one step forward one step back, like when someone plays chess and makes a move only to take it back in his next move.
Why i lost my faith to my religion why i change the way i view things and the world was because i came across new evidence! not because it's easy to do.
If i was to change my mind throw everything away for no reason, simply without the presence of new evidence its ludacris, i would be like that guy in the movie matrix where he asked agent smith to go back to sleep and forget everything cause i didn't like reality!
Imagine you carry a barrel on top of a mountain to find a water source and when you find one it takes you years to fill out your barrel as the water comes out drop by drop and when you're half way through to fill it up you simply kick it and dump it empty.
All the stuff i learned from the religions i didn't throw them away but untwist them decoded them like ghrees did and saw religions for what they really are. In other words i used what i learned from the religions to my advantage as in those holy/satanic books are coded the scripted along with many other things the future our owners have made for humanity with end goal the genocide of all population on our planet from the 200 million soldiers from the east, the dragon's race!
Another example you gave us that you take one step forward one step back was when you said that movies contain no truth at all, for the past few months you were providing your own intel decoding messages from videogames and movies only to hear you few days ago kicking your barrel with water down again and saying that movies don't contain any truth.

The reason i point this out is so you become aware of it and you correct it as all of us have our vulnerabilities our flaws and the moment we take notice of them is when they start disappearing.
Same thing when you said that you would join the draconians if they promised you all kind of things and i was glad that you understood after how wrong that was.
And i wanna add to that when a human joins the draconians he becomes a traitor to his own race and the movie immortals i saw last week gave us a good idea how the enemy treats traitors. No one like traitors even the draconians as ghrees said cause if you won't hesitate to betray your own race how hard would be in the future to betray the draconians the enemy of your race? With their technology they don't even need to keep traitors alive, they would simply copy their intel and replace their personality with a draconian one dollhouse style if they don't send them back to reincarnate.

As about our limitation to see this world as it is that's where technology comes to lift that limitation. Even in the soul dimension you'll be limited to that and the below it earthly dimension. There 12 parallel dimension according to ghrees and in each one you can see that and the one below it.
The lowest is our dimension that's why we can see only that but with the use of technology like neutrino telescopes we can get a glimpse of the soul dimension.

Your second to last sentence where you said about when considering the ideas on the internet is like pinching yourself and the solution according to you is to release the pressure aka stop pinching yourself which equals=stop considering the ideas/facts/evidence you read on internet, then it would be the same as going back to sleep!
As the intel you can find online you find almost nowhere else unless you have access to the elite's libraries where the forbidden knowledge/books are stored.

The more intel we gather the harder and more time our brains/processors need to digest it that's why i tell to the newbies to start from lightweights before they go into the heavy ones! cause like in the gym the ones that rush to go to the heavy ones they simply give up 1 minute later and never return to the gym.

I just saw the trailer Pi and i wanna add that when people say everything is math/numbers which is true they give the impression to the ignorants that then life and nature is simple and easy to understood forgetting how hard math can be, one has to look to the 200 math problems around the world where our scientists and most genius of our kind still looking for their solution and if i remember correctly a russian guy solved one a year ago and won a million dollars but turned it down.
For more intel on that google "unsolved math problems".

About the trailer exam i found interesting the subliminal message at 1:48 where the guy was about to suicide the security guard/guardian angel was right behind him holding him and in front you could see a shadow figure which could represent the dark shadows/demons of the soul dimension, then soon after you see a white screen which represent blank slate/memory erasing/real death and a message "your time starts now"=new beginning/reincarnation!

Thanks for the trailers bossbattles i'll put them on my list of movies that need to watch.
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I was amazed by the intel i got from this video but i was amazed even more on the traps it contained!
After 5:00 he talks about beings helping you get out of body, some of them being good not always bad, some of them could be an alien a grey an annunaki a mantis etc.
I was like damn this guy is dangerous, he reminded the movie ink where ink pulled a little girl's soul out of her body to steal it! But the movie that takes the cake with pulling souls out of bodies and stealing them is "The Chronicles of Riddick". Do you remember the big boss there "helping" his victims' souls get out of body by simply pulling them out by force?
cruise
Then this guy rich goes ahead and makes fun of the people that will fear and like riddick did, resist getting pulled out of their body.
Yeah i had my doubts about this guy, the avatar with the crescent moon on top of his head raised my suspicion but after this video i have no doubts that i have a lunar agent in front of my eyes.
If you continue watching his video you'll see him admitting in a funny way what he does is for the money(a money making deal he called it), then goes ahead and does the trick 2 did in the prisoner's series saying "i exaggerate of course... but only slightly!".
I find it interesting the common thing shills, lunar agents etc have and that is they love making money, their main goal is not to inform you or stop/foil the worse to come but simply take advantage of situations to put some money in their pockets while at the same time consciously or unconsciously help carrying out their owners' plans.
Bashar, david dicke, fat disinfo agent on youtube are a great a example, they hit 2 birds with 1 stone and that is from what they do not only they carry their owners' agenda but getting rich for doing so too!

At 10:53 he says it's ok to forget everything when you reincarnate, what a scumbag!
As i continue watching at 11:40 i found funny when he talked about a guy that falls from a cliff his soul would exit the body before it hits the ground lol.
Then he says when people die they see their friends(demons in disguise) and they might even have a spacecraft or a big mothership/moon(he actually programs you to board one after death!).
Then he says they come back and reincarnate again, yeah nothing bad happened when they boarded that spaceship/mothership etc like truman cash has informed us that's where the process of memory erasing takes place and we're actually get programmed to return to it when we die again as humans.
When this guy rich said and threw the blame on us "that it's us who shut off access to our old memories cause we don't want to relive the pain" i started wondering if that's a way the draconians program us to never look at the place/memory bank where our old memories are buried/stored by placing an implant of fear and pain in front of it.
When he start talking about recalling early similar experiences like you see a person for the first time and you feel you've seen him before etc cause you're recalling past lives memories, this intel i found it amazing as it reminded me my personal experiences when i was 2-6 years old, i would go to places for the first time i would see people for the first time etc all never seen before but the moment i looked at them i would get a strong feeling a flashback that i've seen them before, which would make me question my parents that told me i didn't exist before.

Lastly this guy rich is talking about past life regression and releasing the fear(that could be a warning to be careful) and he makes it sound as a good thing and pay attention what he says next "cause then when you're out of body and see dark shadow motherf*ckers with big red eyes, men in black, goblin, et, etc and there was some real pain there(fight for your soul's life!) it's not a big deal!"

The fear is gone the memory is gone and you're ready to step into the same traps make the same mistakes get erased men in black style again and reincarnate.

That sums it all up, as a whole i found it a very interested video and very informative when you take notice of the traps cause then it's like getting free food out of a fisherman's hook and i know they really hate it when you do!
cruise
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Lemme guess....THIS GUY is gonna HELP us heal our old painful memories???

cruise

norespect

Funny how these people show up out of nowhere and suddenly become "known" to the crowd that would be researching such topics. It always seems to happen so quickly and smoothly for these kinds of guys/girls.

Sorry, but I don't give a shit about old painful memories hurting me. I can take it. I want my memories, regardless of what they are, because it would include evidence of what i am and what ive been subjected to and what i've been doing. There is no reason why i would AVOID that information.
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Nicely said man!
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bossbattles. search nobody has new video thread. 3rd or so post, read it. everything is theater, especially alternative media.
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True like a truman show as our owners control both sides where in reality is one, 2 different faces of the same coin, but don't confuse this thread with alternative media.

Here we do research we debate we post our thoughts up for challenge and try to figure things out and find solutions! Where most sources i have come across they give you evidence on how much control our owners have on this planet like a truman show(remember the creator... of that tv show had his base on our moon!) and their solution their final message is "there's nothing you can do about it!" to scare their viewers to dig holes and hide, same strategy this fearmongering fat shill on youtube that his name is banned here does where bill cooper exposed the crap out of him, and it was bill cooper the guy that predicted 9/11 months before it happened and had gathered a tremendous amount of evidence to bring our leaders/5th column/shills/china's puppets to justice, that's why a warrant for his arrest was issued on 9/11 and a month later was murdered at his house by our secret service! while the fat shill/government agent is still alive and raking millions!

You might wanna expand on your post 854 cause as it is right now this how it looks to me.

Everything is a theater/illusion/virtual reality a fake go back to sleep, and the smart ones that have figure this out still can't fly like neo in matrix.
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Op regarding the series "dollhouse"
What do you see when the episode ends and the ending credits start?

You have a scene above the sleeping places for the mind controlled slaves from above. There are 5 sleeping places (pentagram..) and in the middle you have an OCTAGON...what does it mean? They make sure you LOOK AT IT!
As with all movies or tv series when the camera focuses a bit longer to an object or some place it usually means something...

look at these links please:
Dollhouse...
[link to www.scificool.com]

Most churches have octagon towers
[link to www.travelblog.org]

Eastern religious symbol...you will love this one.
[link to www.crestock.com]

The mekka square is octagon shape as do many minarets
[link to syedquadri.weebly.com]

fight fight
[link to www.fightmania.com]

from the tv serie lost...
[link to lostpedia.wikia.com]

stop or die
[link to www.clker.com]

And many many more of these mind control implants, remember the scene in mission impossible when he descends...into an octagon room. Or the 19 sigarette package its an octagon! to me the octagon represents amnesia/death, depends on the context of how its used. Take a look. Their weapons include symbols.
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These places (and things) in the shape of the octagon are places (or can be places) of high emotion.

Also, search "octagon magic symbols" on google. One in particular I found really interesting was Octagon Mystic.
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Nice video man i found amazing the way it unfolded the cube into a cross, i bet if the cristian zombies had any mind left it would be blown away!
What bill cooper suspected that these gods could be aliens raymond drake's book "gods and spacemen throughout history" makes it clearer than a cloudless sky.

Also the movie immortals i saw last week started with this message right at our face.

-When this world was still young...
...long before man or beast
roamed these lands...
...there was a war in the heavens.(star war)
Immortals, once thought
incapable of death...
...discovered they had the power
to kill one another.(memory erasing)
Lost in this war was a weapon
of unimaginable power:(capable to erase/kill the immortals lol!)
the Epirus Bow.(It represents the men in black flash gun)
The victors declared themselves gods(at this point the movie shows a painting of jesus/yahweh holding a church!!!)
while the vanquished were renamed Titans,
and forever imprisoned
within the bowels of Mount Tartarus.(inner earth!)

The victors/our new owners declared themselves gods and the movie shows jesus/yahweh holding a church, do you guys think the religious sheeple raised the slightest suspicion?

Also in that movie i noticed another pattern that is in many hollywood movies. The big bad boss the king of the bad guys army had many similarities with the father of thor in the movie thor. Both were wearing the same black helmet with horns both were kings of a big army and both had only one good eye! Also i noticed the reptilian teeth that circled the front face of the helmet of the the king in immortals.

Another amazing thing i took notice in that movie was that the titans were being presented as reptilians and both the 12 lunar gods/demons and the titans were wearing the same helmet!!!
If you guys pay attention to it you'll see they're identical only the color is different where to the titans their helmet is painted red and to the lunar gods is painted gold.
I take that a subliminal message where our owners showed that those supposed opposite sides are actually one and the same, good/bad cop kind of thing! and again a lunar show where the demons fight each other to entertain their sheeple lol.
Like in transformers you have brothers fight each other and both have home our moon/cybertron, same in the movie legion where angel michael was fighting angel gabriel, same in the tv seires V where the good guys were named blatantly "5th column" where in wikipedia 5th column is the enemy's shills pretending to be on your side while at the same time are working for your enemy! the list is endless man "lunar show" is how i call those movies.
Take note also the countless times they show our moon in them too and in amazing shots to make it look beautiful to humans where in one screen in immortals while theseus was riding athena's horses the moon had covered the whole screen in the background!
Our owners have spent a lot of effort from ancient times to brainwash the masses to see the moon as friendly beautiful and a lover's thing. I think one of the reasons they do this is so when we gain the ability to fly in the soul dimension most souls by themselves would fly towards the moon like a fly that goes to the light only to get zapped or get caught into a spider's web!

Also in the movie immortals they informed us like in the 300 movie of who writes our history, the winner! where he would go to great extends like torturing and killing any historian who would dare to write something different.

-What does it feel like, knowing...
...knowing that there will
be no memory of you?
-I have won.
My death will make me a legend.
My deeds...
...will go down in history.
-I am writing your history.

Also in that movie they gave us a good idea the kind of treatment a traitor gets when he crosses to the other side join his enemy to save his own ass lol.

At the end of that movie these 2 things i took notice amazed me.

Lunar god zeus/yahweh etc speaks to the son of theseus:
-War is coming to the heavens.
And your father will be there,
fighting for your future.

Interpretation:
A new star war like ghrees correctly informed us about is soon to emerge/ignite and our fathers our grandfathers and all the people we know that have recently died might not be coming back to reincarnate in human bodies but simply get used as draconian pawns to fight the upcoming star war.
Like in darksiders they informed us the destroyer/the great dragon/maggador is using our souls to empower his army!

As the movie ends and shows the fight/star war in heavens if you pay close attention behind the war in the sky is flooded with ufos! that look and fly exactly like the ufos we've seen in many videos on youtube!

HAHAHA I WAS SO EXCITED WHEN I TOOK NOTICE OF THAT MAN AS INDEED THE UPCOMING WAR IN HEAVENS WILL BE A STAR WAR! AND NOT A LUNAR SHOW/FAKE FIGHT OF ANGELS/DEMONS FIGHTING THEMSELVES LOL.


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I just saw the trailer for the new star wars game.


I didn't notice anything important in the trailer... but looking at the title of this new game and take notice of one thing got me jumped off my chair!

Star Wars 1313=2 times 13=2013!

Is 2013 the year of the new star war?

One thing i suspect for sure and mentioned before and that is ww3 on earth might take place parallel to the star war in space and all the show we will be seeing in our sky we'll be thinking it's just us humans fighting each other.
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why does this thread keep getting bumped!! ive read pretty much the whole thing, and its the only topic on this site that scares me.
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I just saw the trailer for the new star wars game.


I didn't notice anything important in the trailer... but looking at the title of this new game and take notice of one thing got me jumped off my chair!

Star Wars 1313=2 times 13=2013!

Is 2013 the year of the new star war?

One thing i suspect for sure and mentioned before and that is ww3 on earth might take place parallel to the star war in space and all the show we will be seeing in our sky we'll be thinking it's just us humans fighting each other.
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Another thing i just took notice when you see the number 1313 you'll notice the first or second 3 is upside down, if you rotate the second 3 180 degrees right and make a cross between the 3s by crossing the 1s you'll make this symbol that hellenandchaos has decoded in the below links.

[link to 3.bp.blogspot.com]

UNDO OF STUPIDITIES ABOUT “NAZI SWASTIKA” AND … EDUCATION OF ANALPHABET ANTI-HELLENES
[link to hellenandchaos.blogspot.com]
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why does this thread keep getting bumped!! ive read pretty much the whole thing, and its the only topic on this site that scares me.
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Do you care only about yourself?
You should bump this thread too so more people get the memo!
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Check my last post bossbattles, i got very alarmed when i read that he said "the cosmic body/universal organism is sick" as i took notice of how dangerous the result this can bring to the masses is aka the acceptance of the destruction of our universe, what our owners/the disease of the universe really wants are after and is their final goal!

I had totally forgot who jonathanlives is as long time has pass since the last time i saw any of his videos and when i saw most of them i didn't pay attention on the channel name, as also many of them were embedded on this thread.

I still stand strong behind my criticism on what he said according to 892 as like max payne(the new game i'm playing lol) says "it only takes one rotten apple!" to contaminate your whole picture!
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I've thrown away every belief and security blanket i've ever had or been given, so it wouldn't be a problem to disregard any research or info, including everything i've ever read on this entire thread or anything ive ever said here.
It is an ongoing process, and we all should probably be prepared to be wrong at any time, so i agree we shouldn't hang our hats on any one or anything completely.

There are so many possible angles on perception that its sometimes hard to know which angle someone is speaking from, and perhaps that is what often causes interpretations of what is read or heard to be slightly different, which makes our job so hard because details are important, and the difference between good info and bad info is so blurred that we are quickly reaching a point where we may need to ignore all info on the internet, and go back to some basics, and simply "know thyself" as best as we can before we check out of this house of horrors.

Definitely feel on the verge of some total 180 twist in understanding of all this......but again....how do we confirm anything at all? We are in the dark, looking for a light switch that may not even be there.
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I tend to disagree with this post bossbattles, it looks to me you're giving up, i know it's hard to get all the pieces of the puzzle and the internet it is flooded with shills and lunar agents but when they get exposed i don't give up and go back to sleep forgetting everything i read, as like i said before lunar agents give truth mixed with lies where when you believe everything they say you'll believe their lies and most people when they catch them on a lie they disregard everything they heard thinking it was all lies aka they consider even the truths they were given as lies.

Here are the basics for me:
1)Energy cannot be created or destroyed but only transformed
2)Nothing comes from nothing
3)Everything has a - + side
3)Our ancient memories have been erased
4)The moon is an artificial satellite
5)Memory erasing technology
6)Neutrino telescopes seeing the ghost particle/soul dimension.
7)The universe is like a human body, an alive conscious organism with the planets as it's mega cells and humans as it's microorganisms.
8)We're not alone in the universe.

The list goes on and on but those were just a few i just thought.

These are hardcore facts if you were to disregard them simply because you got disappointed or tired researching it's a grave mistake.

And by the way when you spoke of reaching the point to ignore all info on the internet it kinda told me your research doesn't have a strong foundation like the 8 facts i mentioned now that's a hardcore foundation that anyone can expand on it build skyscrapers of thoughts and research without worrying getting collapsed.

Internet is the best tool for a researcher out there if you were to give it up, imagine you're in a fight with a fiery dragon and you put down a 50 cal with armor piercing rounds and continue the fight with a pocket knife.
cruise

There's a very good reason our owners wanna censor the internet as they don't have total control on the flow of info that goes through it like they have on tv newspapers etc.

Have you read raymond drake's book "gods and spacemen throughout history?" that's a book with an amazing research full with evidence from ancient times, i had posted a link to it.
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I don't know where i said i was giving up. I was making the point that I'm willing to drop any bit of knowledge if it means i will further my understanding of what is going on and how to deal with it.

Currently, i generally agree to the possibilities of what you put on your list there, and that is why I'm on this particular thread discussing it. I think that perhaps i'm experiencing a phase of burnout, considering I've been crunching information and ideas in my head for many many years now, realizing that much of it was total bullshit.

I'm asking the question: Is there another way? i'm open to new ideas or strategies, as well as changing course for a time to find out if i can reach some new inner layers within by not constantly stuffing my brain with a new theory every hour on the hour via the internet.

I maintain a collection of ideas and thoughts that make up my personal version of what this reality is, and that could never be conveyed or really shared, because our perception of our world differ greatly even if we share similar outlooks. I'm really getting down to the crux of our limitation, and seeing that there could be some major flaw in how we accept and process information.

Have you ever seen the movie Pi? Or the movie EXAM? i recommend both. Those two films show brilliantly how you can be sent to your demise or insanity by attempting to "figure out" an answer to a "problem", when the simplest answer was right there in the question and required absolutely NO EFFORT.

I feel as though even considering many of these ideas (on the internet) is an act of pinching oneself, and then forgetting that you're pinching yourself, you begin to search for the source of the pain, when all along all you had to do was release the pressure.

Pi:

[link to www.youtube.com]

Exam:

[link to www.youtube.com]

PS. In watching these two trailers again, it could easily be a message on how we spend our time in these bodies seeking and not finding all the way until death, only to be recycled again with no memory of the time wasted. LOL.
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In a way i can relate to what BossBattles said in my own way. My view lately: i lost the urge to (for the moment) in watching movies and try to find hints and codes or subliminals. But the thing is some of these movies are true Trojan horses it like they deliberatly put codes (communicate with the ones in the know) and for those conspiracy "nuts" to indulge them selves into and post their findings on some forum...but isn't that a form of mind control and an initiation into their way of thinking it doesn't mater if you agree or not as long as you are initiated...into the luciferic/new age/transhumanism bs.

Prometheus was a Trojan horse like some one said which il post the link. Its a form of distraction and yeah maybe they do give us some truths. But it didn't made me any closer to finding the way out or atleast recover what was lost...all it did was for the researcher in trying to find a secret message in the movie.

I also believe if it "popular", "bestseller", "heavy advertised" its a major mind control tool. Practically everything is rigged and a lie. From birth and our phony peace of trash "birth certificate" with our own personal id number without it no work no money no food or shelter to insurancies to school.

As for Adampants i disagree with the notion he may be a lunar agent just because he said some parts in the creation is infected by cancerous consciousness (the same thing rees said as well but in his words an infection that spreads to beings then to planets to corrupt them with their wicked system of control and abuse). And besides he got a whole set of videos about "healing" i like the way he explained atoms "atom as an individual part some of its energy is used to see it self as individual and the other part of energy is used as WE the atom just like cells organs humans planet solar system galaxy universe multiverse? And i never had trully the impression he is spreading disinfo just as bossbattles didn't had hat impression and i believe he is no gullible guy i think he is critical.

He never said killing the universe you see you made some suggestions...by telling: ignorant people will think the universe is sick so destroy it i never had this impression so does many of his viewers as a matter of fact he is all in for healing the people/planet/and the rest...as shown in his videos. Or is it his views on christ? Which he tells is a free spirit fully conected with the "universal organism" he came here to show us just like others before him the way out of the control of these snakes/archons/soul trap aka reincarnation...but instead they high jacked their teachings and made it a form of satanism to worship a man as god the bible is satanic/mind control in nature as he said it was.

As with the tape worm etc these are cancerous or rather miscreation because its a result of sick "cells" either by creating these type of beings or they are a result of imbalance (sick). Why?

Why do plants die if they "listen" to dark heavy metal, why do water molocules deform when they are subjected to evil dark metal "music"? Because we are dealing with frequencies specialy when its from these cancerous beings who program people into making evil dark hevay metal...When a being is so sick and we eat it...check the meat from the slaughter house we eat their fear imbalance and other crap...

Your quote"

If "adampants" aka "jonathanlives" really claims like azrael from darksiders that our universe/cosmic body is sick i would suggest you 892 to be very careful as to me it screams he's lunar agent.

Does this mean you didn't even watch most of his videos if you did you would had your answers...you wouldn't come up with that "assumption" above besides we don't have to agree with everything because you as well as me and others are prone to mistakes no one knows the answers for sure.

Besides i'm checking many viewpoints back then but now i'm tired i just do what feels right. And i'l take some break of all the researching.

And here is the link about movies being a form of trojan horse....



The information somehow seems logical to me because its like the infor from "the back stage" they playing with us.
He also talked alot about soul traps and these fake love aliens...either way use your own discernment...take what resonates...
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Op regarding the series "dollhouse"
What do you see when the episode ends and the ending credits start?

You have a scene above the sleeping places for the mind controlled slaves from above. There are 5 sleeping places (pentagram..) and in the middle you have an OCTAGON...what does it mean? They make sure you LOOK AT IT!
As with all movies or tv series when the camera focuses a bit longer to an object or some place it usually means something...

look at these links please:
Dollhouse...
[link to www.scificool.com]

Most churches have octagon towers
[link to www.travelblog.org]

Eastern religious symbol...you will love this one.
[link to www.crestock.com]

The mekka square is octagon shape as do many minarets
[link to syedquadri.weebly.com]

fight fight
[link to www.fightmania.com]

from the tv serie lost...
[link to lostpedia.wikia.com]

stop or die
[link to www.clker.com]

And many many more of these mind control implants, remember the scene in mission impossible when he descends...into an octagon room. Or the 19 sigarette package its an octagon! to me the octagon represents amnesia/death, depends on the context of how its used. Take a look. Their weapons include symbols.
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These places (and things) in the shape of the octagon are places (or can be places) of high emotion.

Also, search "octagon magic symbols" on google. One in particular I found really interesting was Octagon Mystic.
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Thanks for the video i will have a look tommorow and reply.
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I've thrown away every belief and security blanket i've ever had or been given, so it wouldn't be a problem to disregard any research or info, including everything i've ever read on this entire thread or anything ive ever said here.
It is an ongoing process, and we all should probably be prepared to be wrong at any time, so i agree we shouldn't hang our hats on any one or anything completely.

There are so many possible angles on perception that its sometimes hard to know which angle someone is speaking from, and perhaps that is what often causes interpretations of what is read or heard to be slightly different, which makes our job so hard because details are important, and the difference between good info and bad info is so blurred that we are quickly reaching a point where we may need to ignore all info on the internet, and go back to some basics, and simply "know thyself" as best as we can before we check out of this house of horrors.

Definitely feel on the verge of some total 180 twist in understanding of all this......but again....how do we confirm anything at all? We are in the dark, looking for a light switch that may not even be there.
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I tend to disagree with this post bossbattles, it looks to me you're giving up, i know it's hard to get all the pieces of the puzzle and the internet it is flooded with shills and lunar agents but when they get exposed i don't give up and go back to sleep forgetting everything i read, as like i said before lunar agents give truth mixed with lies where when you believe everything they say you'll believe their lies and most people when they catch them on a lie they disregard everything they heard thinking it was all lies aka they consider even the truths they were given as lies.

Here are the basics for me:
1)Energy cannot be created or destroyed but only transformed
2)Nothing comes from nothing
3)Everything has a - + side
3)Our ancient memories have been erased
4)The moon is an artificial satellite
5)Memory erasing technology
6)Neutrino telescopes seeing the ghost particle/soul dimension.
7)The universe is like a human body, an alive conscious organism with the planets as it's mega cells and humans as it's microorganisms.
8)We're not alone in the universe.

The list goes on and on but those were just a few i just thought.

These are hardcore facts if you were to disregard them simply because you got disappointed or tired researching it's a grave mistake.

And by the way when you spoke of reaching the point to ignore all info on the internet it kinda told me your research doesn't have a strong foundation like the 8 facts i mentioned now that's a hardcore foundation that anyone can expand on it build skyscrapers of thoughts and research without worrying getting collapsed.

Internet is the best tool for a researcher out there if you were to give it up, imagine you're in a fight with a fiery dragon and you put down a 50 cal with armor piercing rounds and continue the fight with a pocket knife.
cruise

There's a very good reason our owners wanna censor the internet as they don't have total control on the flow of info that goes through it like they have on tv newspapers etc.

Have you read raymond drake's book "gods and spacemen throughout history?" that's a book with an amazing research full with evidence from ancient times, i had posted a link to it.
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I don't know where i said i was giving up. I was making the point that I'm willing to drop any bit of knowledge if it means i will further my understanding of what is going on and how to deal with it.

Currently, i generally agree to the possibilities of what you put on your list there, and that is why I'm on this particular thread discussing it. I think that perhaps i'm experiencing a phase of burnout, considering I've been crunching information and ideas in my head for many many years now, realizing that much of it was total bullshit.

I'm asking the question: Is there another way? i'm open to new ideas or strategies, as well as changing course for a time to find out if i can reach some new inner layers within by not constantly stuffing my brain with a new theory every hour on the hour via the internet.

I maintain a collection of ideas and thoughts that make up my personal version of what this reality is, and that could never be conveyed or really shared, because our perception of our world differ greatly even if we share similar outlooks. I'm really getting down to the crux of our limitation, and seeing that there could be some major flaw in how we accept and process information.

Have you ever seen the movie Pi? Or the movie EXAM? i recommend both. Those two films show brilliantly how you can be sent to your demise or insanity by attempting to "figure out" an answer to a "problem", when the simplest answer was right there in the question and required absolutely NO EFFORT.

I feel as though even considering many of these ideas (on the internet) is an act of pinching oneself, and then forgetting that you're pinching yourself, you begin to search for the source of the pain, when all along all you had to do was release the pressure.

Pi:

[link to www.youtube.com]

Exam:

[link to www.youtube.com]

PS. In watching these two trailers again, it could easily be a message on how we spend our time in these bodies seeking and not finding all the way until death, only to be recycled again with no memory of the time wasted. LOL.
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You were giving the impression you were giving up, when you say to disregard all evidence that were presented in this thread even everything you said without providing any good reason(counter evidence) why, it gave me the impression of taking one step forward one step back, like when someone plays chess and makes a move only to take it back in his next move.
Why i lost my faith to my religion why i change the way i view things and the world was because i came across new evidence! not because it's easy to do.
If i was to change my mind throw everything away for no reason, simply without the presence of new evidence its ludacris, i would be like that guy in the movie matrix where he asked agent smith to go back to sleep and forget everything cause i didn't like reality!
Imagine you carry a barrel on top of a mountain to find a water source and when you find one it takes you years to fill out your barrel as the water comes out drop by drop and when you're half way through to fill it up you simply kick it and dump it empty.
All the stuff i learned from the religions i didn't throw them away but untwist them decoded them like ghrees did and saw religions for what they really are. In other words i used what i learned from the religions to my advantage as in those holy/satanic books are coded the scripted along with many other things the future our owners have made for humanity with end goal the genocide of all population on our planet from the 200 million soldiers from the east, the dragon's race!
Another example you gave us that you take one step forward one step back was when you said that movies contain no truth at all, for the past few months you were providing your own intel decoding messages from videogames and movies only to hear you few days ago kicking your barrel with water down again and saying that movies don't contain any truth.

The reason i point this out is so you become aware of it and you correct it as all of us have our vulnerabilities our flaws and the moment we take notice of them is when they start disappearing.
Same thing when you said that you would join the draconians if they promised you all kind of things and i was glad that you understood after how wrong that was.
And i wanna add to that when a human joins the draconians he becomes a traitor to his own race and the movie immortals i saw last week gave us a good idea how the enemy treats traitors. No one like traitors even the draconians as ghrees said cause if you won't hesitate to betray your own race how hard would be in the future to betray the draconians the enemy of your race? With their technology they don't even need to keep traitors alive, they would simply copy their intel and replace their personality with a draconian one dollhouse style if they don't send them back to reincarnate.

As about our limitation to see this world as it is that's where technology comes to lift that limitation. Even in the soul dimension you'll be limited to that and the below it earthly dimension. There 12 parallel dimension according to ghrees and in each one you can see that and the one below it.
The lowest is our dimension that's why we can see only that but with the use of technology like neutrino telescopes we can get a glimpse of the soul dimension.

Your second to last sentence where you said about when considering the ideas on the internet is like pinching yourself and the solution according to you is to release the pressure aka stop pinching yourself which equals=stop considering the ideas/facts/evidence you read on internet, then it would be the same as going back to sleep!
As the intel you can find online you find almost nowhere else unless you have access to the elite's libraries where the forbidden knowledge/books are stored.

The more intel we gather the harder and more time our brains/processors need to digest it that's why i tell to the newbies to start from lightweights before they go into the heavy ones! cause like in the gym the ones that rush to go to the heavy ones they simply give up 1 minute later and never return to the gym.

I just saw the trailer Pi and i wanna add that when people say everything is math/numbers which is true they give the impression to the ignorants that then life and nature is simple and easy to understood forgetting how hard math can be, one has to look to the 200 math problems around the world where our scientists and most genius of our kind still looking for their solution and if i remember correctly a russian guy solved one a year ago and won a million dollars but turned it down.
For more intel on that google "unsolved math problems".

About the trailer exam i found interesting the subliminal message at 1:48 where the guy was about to suicide the security guard/guardian angel was right behind him holding him and in front you could see a shadow figure which could represent the dark shadows/demons of the soul dimension, then soon after you see a white screen which represent blank slate/memory erasing/real death and a message "your time starts now"=new beginning/reincarnation!

Thanks for the trailers bossbattles i'll put them on my list of movies that need to watch.
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I'm am in agreement with you. Sometimes i spout out things to clear the palette and get my bearings again. Perhaps this is not the place to do that, because it can be confusing to read if you aren't taking up residence in my bran like i am!

I definitely sift through everything and keep the good bits and drop the bad. When i mentioned disregarding information on this site, i didn't mean i was doing that NOW, but it was just the concept that i hold TRUTH above all things, so if i came to a point where it required me to take a new view on all of this stuff, I wouldn't be held back by any presently held beliefs, or certain details of them....

It was an extreme way of expressing my focus and motivation to continually move forward and NOT give up, but i can see how it gives the opposite impression.

As far as joining the draconians, again, i was putting myself and all of humanity in the shoes of that position, and how EASY it is to see how you can get humans to be traitors, because your average person is in a pretend world where they don't believe it would be possible to sell out like that, and i was just identifying with that situation, and realizing how for most people it wouldn't really be that difficult to be a traitor in lieu of getting some riches and relief in this strange world.

Again, i tend to not illustrate things exactly how i should when writing, because i assume too often that people know that when i say one thing, i also mean ten more things simultaneously. To me, it is not really contradictory in the conventional sense, but that is just how my brain sees things, it sees many avenues at the same time, so sometimes i type one thing, but really mean another.

My comments about the internet were just to remind people that the world did exist quite fine prior to the internet, and there are times when we should introduce some balance, and still look for other ways to experience new learning opportunities or strategies, especially via one's own search within. I myself wouldn't be leaving the internet anytime soon, nor do i think it is necessary.

Didn't mean to make it sound like i was turning on this info or this discussion. I'll try to be more concise with what i'm actually trying to convey in the future.

the Pi movie is probably a little tough to sit through these days, but i did like the ending.

Exam is easy to watch and probably has some interesting details that you will be able to decipher.
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I've thrown away every belief and security blanket i've ever had or been given, so it wouldn't be a problem to disregard any research or info, including everything i've ever read on this entire thread or anything ive ever said here.
It is an ongoing process, and we all should probably be prepared to be wrong at any time, so i agree we shouldn't hang our hats on any one or anything completely.

There are so many possible angles on perception that its sometimes hard to know which angle someone is speaking from, and perhaps that is what often causes interpretations of what is read or heard to be slightly different, which makes our job so hard because details are important, and the difference between good info and bad info is so blurred that we are quickly reaching a point where we may need to ignore all info on the internet, and go back to some basics, and simply "know thyself" as best as we can before we check out of this house of horrors.

Definitely feel on the verge of some total 180 twist in understanding of all this......but again....how do we confirm anything at all? We are in the dark, looking for a light switch that may not even be there.
 Quoting: BossBattles


I tend to disagree with this post bossbattles, it looks to me you're giving up, i know it's hard to get all the pieces of the puzzle and the internet it is flooded with shills and lunar agents but when they get exposed i don't give up and go back to sleep forgetting everything i read, as like i said before lunar agents give truth mixed with lies where when you believe everything they say you'll believe their lies and most people when they catch them on a lie they disregard everything they heard thinking it was all lies aka they consider even the truths they were given as lies.

Here are the basics for me:
1)Energy cannot be created or destroyed but only transformed
2)Nothing comes from nothing
3)Everything has a - + side
3)Our ancient memories have been erased
4)The moon is an artificial satellite
5)Memory erasing technology
6)Neutrino telescopes seeing the ghost particle/soul dimension.
7)The universe is like a human body, an alive conscious organism with the planets as it's mega cells and humans as it's microorganisms.
8)We're not alone in the universe.

The list goes on and on but those were just a few i just thought.

These are hardcore facts if you were to disregard them simply because you got disappointed or tired researching it's a grave mistake.

And by the way when you spoke of reaching the point to ignore all info on the internet it kinda told me your research doesn't have a strong foundation like the 8 facts i mentioned now that's a hardcore foundation that anyone can expand on it build skyscrapers of thoughts and research without worrying getting collapsed.

Internet is the best tool for a researcher out there if you were to give it up, imagine you're in a fight with a fiery dragon and you put down a 50 cal with armor piercing rounds and continue the fight with a pocket knife.
cruise

There's a very good reason our owners wanna censor the internet as they don't have total control on the flow of info that goes through it like they have on tv newspapers etc.

Have you read raymond drake's book "gods and spacemen throughout history?" that's a book with an amazing research full with evidence from ancient times, i had posted a link to it.
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I don't know where i said i was giving up. I was making the point that I'm willing to drop any bit of knowledge if it means i will further my understanding of what is going on and how to deal with it.

Currently, i generally agree to the possibilities of what you put on your list there, and that is why I'm on this particular thread discussing it. I think that perhaps i'm experiencing a phase of burnout, considering I've been crunching information and ideas in my head for many many years now, realizing that much of it was total bullshit.

I'm asking the question: Is there another way? i'm open to new ideas or strategies, as well as changing course for a time to find out if i can reach some new inner layers within by not constantly stuffing my brain with a new theory every hour on the hour via the internet.

I maintain a collection of ideas and thoughts that make up my personal version of what this reality is, and that could never be conveyed or really shared, because our perception of our world differ greatly even if we share similar outlooks. I'm really getting down to the crux of our limitation, and seeing that there could be some major flaw in how we accept and process information.

Have you ever seen the movie Pi? Or the movie EXAM? i recommend both. Those two films show brilliantly how you can be sent to your demise or insanity by attempting to "figure out" an answer to a "problem", when the simplest answer was right there in the question and required absolutely NO EFFORT.

I feel as though even considering many of these ideas (on the internet) is an act of pinching oneself, and then forgetting that you're pinching yourself, you begin to search for the source of the pain, when all along all you had to do was release the pressure.

Pi:

[link to www.youtube.com]

Exam:

[link to www.youtube.com]

PS. In watching these two trailers again, it could easily be a message on how we spend our time in these bodies seeking and not finding all the way until death, only to be recycled again with no memory of the time wasted. LOL.
 Quoting: BossBattles


In a way i can relate to what BossBattles said in my own way. My view lately: i lost the urge to (for the moment) in watching movies and try to find hints and codes or subliminals. But the thing is some of these movies are true Trojan horses it like they deliberatly put codes (communicate with the ones in the know) and for those conspiracy "nuts" to indulge them selves into and post their findings on some forum...but isn't that a form of mind control and an initiation into their way of thinking it doesn't mater if you agree or not as long as you are initiated...into the luciferic/new age/transhumanism bs.

Prometheus was a Trojan horse like some one said which il post the link. Its a form of distraction and yeah maybe they do give us some truths. But it didn't made me any closer to finding the way out or atleast recover what was lost...all it did was for the researcher in trying to find a secret message in the movie.

I also believe if it "popular", "bestseller", "heavy advertised" its a major mind control tool. Practically everything is rigged and a lie. From birth and our phony peace of trash "birth certificate" with our own personal id number without it no work no money no food or shelter to insurancies to school.

As for Adampants i disagree with the notion he may be a lunar agent just because he said some parts in the creation is infected by cancerous consciousness (the same thing rees said as well but in his words an infection that spreads to beings then to planets to corrupt them with their wicked system of control and abuse). And besides he got a whole set of videos about "healing" i like the way he explained atoms "atom as an individual part some of its energy is used to see it self as individual and the other part of energy is used as WE the atom just like cells organs humans planet solar system galaxy universe multiverse? And i never had trully the impression he is spreading disinfo just as bossbattles didn't had hat impression and i believe he is no gullible guy i think he is critical.

He never said killing the universe you see you made some suggestions...by telling: ignorant people will think the universe is sick so destroy it i never had this impression so does many of his viewers as a matter of fact he is all in for healing the people/planet/and the rest...as shown in his videos. Or is it his views on christ? Which he tells is a free spirit fully conected with the "universal organism" he came here to show us just like others before him the way out of the control of these snakes/archons/soul trap aka reincarnation...but instead they high jacked their teachings and made it a form of satanism to worship a man as god the bible is satanic/mind control in nature as he said it was.

As with the tape worm etc these are cancerous or rather miscreation because its a result of sick "cells" either by creating these type of beings or they are a result of imbalance (sick). Why?

Why do plants die if they "listen" to dark heavy metal, why do water molocules deform when they are subjected to evil dark metal "music"? Because we are dealing with frequencies specialy when its from these cancerous beings who program people into making evil dark hevay metal...When a being is so sick and we eat it...check the meat from the slaughter house we eat their fear imbalance and other crap...

Your quote"

If "adampants" aka "jonathanlives" really claims like azrael from darksiders that our universe/cosmic body is sick i would suggest you 892 to be very careful as to me it screams he's lunar agent.

Does this mean you didn't even watch most of his videos if you did you would had your answers...you wouldn't come up with that "assumption" above besides we don't have to agree with everything because you as well as me and others are prone to mistakes no one knows the answers for sure.

Besides i'm checking many viewpoints back then but now i'm tired i just do what feels right. And i'l take some break of all the researching.

And here is the link about movies being a form of trojan horse....



The information somehow seems logical to me because its like the infor from "the back stage" they playing with us.
He also talked alot about soul traps and these fake love aliens...either way use your own discernment...take what resonates...
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Thanks for that video. It echoes my sentiment, and he said it much better than i did. This is all very interesting, because it ties in with the movie suggestions Pi and Exam that i made, as well as the idea that we need to take a "break" on certain levels.

When i was probably 17, i used to be completely clear minded and i had no idea how good i had it. I would go down to the river and just walk, and i would learn something new each time. This was developing ME, and it was nurturing my essence. This video points out that we may be falling into a very tricky trap of feeding THEM by occupying our minds with their poison, no matter how "truthful" it may be, it still does not nourish us. What happened to creatively discovering your own lessons and understandings outside the realm of a computer screen?

One of the best lessons i learned from the river goes like this:

During the summer time i i found a part of a tree branch that became my "walking stick". I carried it around each time i went to the river until near the end of the season, i decided to leave this "walking stick" in a small tree. I decided it would gather "wisdom", and if it was still there when i returned, i would receive this wisdom.

Months later, during the fall/winter time, i was kind of sad about something, and i visited the river at night. It had been raining hard all week, but i still decided to try and find this tree late at night. The path i had followed to find this tree was now flooded, but i jumped in the water anyways, and lost a jacket and shoes in the process. i swam in this water, not certain where i would end up, and at times i wasn't sure if i would even come out alive.

I spotted the tree up on a bank, so i found my way to it. The walking stick was there, and i was happy. Then i noticed that the tree was positioned in such a way that the bike trail that was completely dry was behind the tree and if only i had followed that simple path and not jumped in the water, i could have literally picked the stick out of the tree with ease and walked back without getting wet, and losing my jacket and shoes.

The realization of in this moment was overwhelming and i began laughing. to me, this is all the realization i've ever needed. It demonstrates new lessons to my mind each time i think about it.

I tend to do things the "hard way", thinking i need to PROVE something, before i can take another step, but in reality, i have all i need to know within, and life becomes as easy as plucking a walking stick out of a tree, as opposed to taking a trip down the river. The paradox is that i wouldn't have this story if i had taken the easy road......

Paradox & Mystery, i used to think needed to be solved, but now i think that is not the case, because if they could be solved, they would cease to motivate the quest for an answer, which again, is a PARADOX!

anyways, the nature of our discussions signals to me that we've all jumped in the water and are searching for our walking sticks, and even though we're gonna lose our shit and get wet, we're in the right place because we actually give a shit about our existence enough to jump in.
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