Zarqawi--"Shiites leave", Sunnis--"We don´t accept that a non-Iraqi should try to enforce his control over Iraqis"

The Washington Post?

A neo-con rag...


RBH is stuck in a rut in an attempt to justify his and my countries illegal war on Iraq...

Really? And where do you get you source information about The Washington Post and me? Who do you think owns the Post wul? And what makes you think I need to validate your ignorant position on the war? It is the wrong position fabricated by insane leftist base on their lies about what is going on in Iraq. My position is valid as is the position of the governments of Spain, Italy, Romania, The UK, The USofA, Japan, South Korea, The UN, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, India, Australia, and on, and on, and on... so I do not need to reinforce it.

Get off your high horse, is it ok to murder over 100,000 innocent Iraqi´s for what?

nothing thats what...

An islamic government is being set up as I type, not the so called democracy your glorious leader foams at the mouth about.


This will tell you who owns the Washington Post :

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Saturday September 11, 10:38 AM

Allies ´duped into waging war´

One of al Qaida´s aims in its September 11 attacks on the US three years ago was to draw the west into military conflict on Arab soil, according to Prime Minister Tony Blair´s former envoy to Iraq.

Sir Jeremy Greenstock´s comments appeared to give some credence to the argument of critics of the Iraq War that the US and UK played into al Qaida´s hands by launching last year´s invasion.

Opponents of the war warned that it would act as a recruiting sergeant for terror chief Osama bin Laden, by appearing to confirm his claims that the West was engaged in a war on Islam, as well as providing a new field of battle for his militants.

Sir Jeremy said the allies had "suffered the consequences" in Iraq of al Qaida´s determination to exploit the opportunities presented by a war on Arab soil.

He said that the West could not defeat bin Laden´s terror network by military means alone, but must adopt policies to reduce resentment in the Muslim world.

If the allies failed to help Iraq put an end to its current instability, they would be left "worse off than when we started", he warned.

Sir Jeremy, who was at the centre of events in the run-up to last year´s war as UK ambassador to the United Nations, told BBC Radio 4´s Today programme: "I think it was one of the objectives of Osama bin Laden and the al Qaida leadership originally to draw America into conflict on Arab soil as close to Saudi Arabia as possible."

Asked if this meant the allies had in fact played into al Qaida´s hands, he responded: "To some extent, we are suffering the consequences of that."

Iraq must not be allowed to become a failed state, with chaotic conditions providing a breeding ground for terrorism, he warned.

"Iraq is not yet a failed state," said Sir Jeremy. "We are in a transition period, which has got considerable difficulties. But if Iraq ends up as a failed state and we leave it in that state, then we are worse off than when we started."

Oh, looky here, Zarquawi´s number two man slain as reprisal for 3 Sunnis murdered by the new butcher in Iraq. Oh and wul, the us has not killed 100,000 people. You need to quit propagandizing with lies. Oh wait, that is all libbies do, try and form public opinion by repeating the same lies over and over again, just like the nazis did. Wow, you would make a good German.



3 Sunni Activists Killed In Iraq
Vote Promoters Slain in Front of Horrified Crowd
Sunni Leaders Respond, Slay Zarquawi´s Number Two Man, Three Others

By Ellen Knickmeyer and Dlovan Brwari
Washington Post Foreign Service
Saturday, August 20, 2005; Page A01

MOSUL, Iraq, Aug. 19 -- Gunmen in this northern city Friday abducted and publicly executed three Sunni Arab activists who had been working to draw the disgruntled Sunni minority into Iraq´s political mainstream, and then draped their bodies in a get-out-the-vote banner, officials and witnesses said.

The killings, before a horrified crowd, were the latest episode in the accelerating violence between suspected insurgents and the Sunni minority that has been their base of support.

One witness, Muhammed Khalid, said armed men traveling in eight cars kidnapped the activists as they were hanging banners encouraging voter participation. An hour later, gunmen appeared in another neighborhood. They blocked off side roads, stopped people from fleeing and forbade frightened shopkeepers to close their establishments, witnesses said.

"Then they took three men out of their cars and killed them in front of us," said a witness, Harith Saleem. He quoted one of the killers as saying, "This is the punishment for those who promote the elections."

In the western city of Ramadi, meanwhile, Sunni tribal members shot and killed a Saudi and three other members of the country´s main insurgent group, al Qaeda in Iraq, headed by Abu Musab Zarqawi, witnesses and sources said. Killings there, too, marked rapidly escalating tensions between foreign-led fighters and Sunnis.

The political violence came as all Iraq´s factions jostled for position in the reshaping of their nation, more than two years after the fall of Saddam Hussein.

In Baghdad, debate over the role of Islamic law deadlocked the drafting of Iraq´s new constitution, with more-secular Iraqis balking at terms they said would subjugate Iraq to the rule of clerics, negotiators said.

Iraqis are due to vote in October on a new constitution and then in December for their first full-term government, which will determine how the constitution is interpreted and enforced.

Iraq´s political leaders and constitution committee members face a Monday deadline -- already postponed by a week -- to put a draft constitution before parliament, ahead of the October vote. U.S. and Iraqi leaders have insisted that completing the constitution will calm political violence. Friday´s attacks, however, suggested that the bloodletting would persist at least through the scheduled December elections.

Negotiators said Friday that all sides had reached accord on the critical issue of federalism, which will determine how much independent say the largely Kurdish north and predominantly Shiite south will have in running their affairs. The accord reached Friday would recognize a northern federal state for the Kurds and give other regions the same option if approved by local voters and by parliament, Shiite and Kurdish officials said.

Those terms leave the way open for the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq -- now the dominant party in Iraq´s interim government -- to make a separate federal state in the Shiite south out of as many as half of Iraq´s 18 provinces.

Members of the constitution committee said they were still divided on how Iraq´s oil wealth should be allocated. But the bigger dispute, emerging early Saturday, was over the role of Islam. The current rough draft stipulates that Iraq is an Islamic state and that no law can contradict the basic principles of Islam.

More-secular Sunnis and Kurds have backed changing that wording to the "agreed-upon" principles of Islam -- thereby greatly limiting the myriad Islamic rules that could be applied to laws. The groups had appeared sanguine about prospects of winning such a concession, but early Saturday they said they had failed.

"You try and put these phrases in, it creates a theocracy, and people don´t want this," one negotiator said, speaking by telephone and on condition of anonymity. "Nobody could bring a beer here, nobody could go in the streets without a scarf. Did America want that?"

Officials said U.S. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad, who has been an active broker in the talks, had supported the stricter, Shiite-led position on the role of Islam. Khalilzad and his aides could not be reached for comment early Saturday.

In Washington, an administration official said, "There clearly continues to be disagreement, but talks have not collapsed. They´re clearly at a critical stage. I would expect intensive negotiations to continue among everybody tomorrow and through the weekend."

The attack in Mosul targeted members of the Iraq Islamic Party, which had been lobbying for Sunnis to take part in the coming elections. Iraq´s Sunni minority largely boycotted the January elections that seated the current transitional government, led by Shiites and Kurds. Threats from insurgents also contributed to the boycott. The resulting small turnout left Sunnis with comparatively little clout in the government and in the constitutional talks.

Zarqawi´s forces, sheltering in Sunni areas of central and western Iraq, are challenging the Sunni move into the political process with fierce determination.

On Thursday, gunmen opened fire on a Ramadi meeting of political, tribal and religious leaders discussing the constitution. The local governor, leading western Iraq´s heavily Sunni Anbar province, was at the meeting but escaped injury.

On Friday, a Saudi insurgent leader, Abu Muhammad Hajeri, of Zarqawi´s group, was found dead in Ramadi with three Iraqi members of the insurgency. Sunni tribal members, speaking on condition of anonymity, said tribesmen had killed them.

The killings were in retaliation for tribal deaths in clashes earlier this month, when Sunni tribesmen took up arms to prevent Zarqawi´s group from enforcing an edict ordering the expulsion of local Shiites, the tribal members said.

"Even for those [Sunnis] who want to resist, they are starting to see voting as a form of peaceful, nonviolent resistance," said Maj. Ed R. Sullivan, a U.S. military official in Ramadi. "That´s a growing trend. The extremists don´t want to see that."

Separately on Friday, gunmen killed a city council member in the northern city of Hawija, police said. An Iraqi policeman died in an overnight raid in Baghdad, news agencies said.

In Baghdad, U.N. workers lowered their blue-and-white flag to half-staff in the Green Zone to mark the second anniversary of the Aug. 19, 2003, bombing of U.N. headquarters in the capital.

Knickmeyer reported from Baghdad. Staff writer Robin Wright in Washington, correspondent Jonathan Finer in Baghdad and special correspondents Naseer Nouri and Khalid Saffar in Baghdad contributed to this report.

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Wow- interesting to look back on this article from ten years ago...

Iraqis were fighting what would become ISIS back then. And look where we are today. UGH....

And look who was the US Ambassador and what we were trying to impose on the Iraqis who wanted a secular government