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"Moulin Rouge" --- The movie that should be studied in detail

 
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"Moulin Rouge" --- The movie that should be studied in detail
I have now watched this movie twice now and have noticed this movie is really about our world and what is really going in it, behind the veil or curtain. It deserves to be studied every bit as intensely as "KNOWING."

To will start this thread with the plot and a trailer.

PLOT

In 1899, Christian (Ewan McGregor) moves to the Montmartre district of Paris to become a writer among the Bohemian culture. By happenstance, he encounters a troupe of performers led by Toulouse-Lautrec (John Leguizamo); his writing skills allow them to finish their proposed show, "Spectacular Spectacular" that they wish to sell to Harold Zidler (Jim Broadbent), owner of the Moulin Rouge cabaret. Toulouse-Lautrec convinces Christian to go and see the star courtesan, Satine (Nicole Kidman) in her private quarters to present the work, unaware that Zidler is at the same time promising Satine to the wealthy and unscrupulous Duke of Monroth (Richard Roxburgh), a potential investor in the cabaret ("Sparkling Diamonds" medley).

Satine initially mistakes Christian for the Duke, and soon learns that he is just a writer; but by this time Christian has already fallen for her ("Your Song"). The Duke interrupts them; Christian and Satine quickly feign that they were practicing the lines for the Moulin Rouge's next show, "Spectacular Spectacular", and with the help of Zidler, Toulouse-Lautrec, and the rest of the troupe, they pitch the show to the Duke with an improvised plot, about an evil maharajah (HIGH KING) attempting to woo an Indian courtesan who is in love with a poor sitar player ("The Pitch (Spectacular Spectacular)"). A confused Duke agrees to let them put on the show, but only on the condition that only he is allowed to see Satine (FEMALE FORM OF THE WORD SATAN). Christian later goes back to see Satine to convince her that she loves him ("Elephant Love Medley"). As the cabaret is converted to a theater for the show, Christian and Satine manage to continue to see each other alone, under the pretense of rehearsing Satine's lines. The Duke becomes jealous and warns Zidler that he may stop financing the show; Zidler in return arranges for Satine to dine with him that evening. However, during practice she falls ill; she and Zidler learn in private that she is dying from consumption. Zidler apologizes to the Duke the next day, claiming that Satine had gone to confession ("Like a Virgin"). During rehearsal, Satine tries to convince Christian that their relationship endangers the show, but he counters by writing a secret love song into the show to affirm their true love ("Come What May").

Later, as the Duke watches Christian rehearse lines with Satine, Nina (Caroline O'Connor), a jealous performer of the cabaret, points out to the Duke that the play is an obvious metaphor for Christian, Satine, and the Duke. Enraged, the Duke demands that the play ending be changed so that the courtesan ends up with the maharajah; Satine offers to talk and spend the night with the Duke to keep the original ending. That evening while at the Duke's quarters, Satine sees Christian on the streets below, and realizes she cannot go through with this ("El Tango de Roxanne"). The Duke tries to take her forcibly, but she is saved by one of the cabaret dancers and reunited with Christian, who recommends they run away together. Meanwhile, the Duke threatens to Zidler that he will have Christian killed if Satine is not his. Zidler reiterates this warning to Satine, but when she still refuses to return, he finally informs her that her fainting spells will not get better but worse, until she dies. Satine returns to Christian and tells him they can no longer see each other as she will be staying with the Duke. Christian tries to follow her, but he is denied entry to the Moulin Rouge, and falls into a state of depression, even when Toulouse-Lautrec insists that Satine still loves him.

On the night of the show, Christian sneaks into the Moulin Rouge, ready to pay Satine to return his love just as the Duke has paid for her. He catches Satine moments before she is on stage, and she warns him that his life is in danger if the Duke spots him. Suddenly, they find themselves in the spotlight; Zidler convinces the stunned audience that Christian is the sitar player in disguise. However, Christian simply walks off the stage into the hushed audience. Toulouse-Lautrec, from the rafters, cries out, "The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return", spurring Satine to sing the secret love song Christian had wrote to show him her love. Elated, Christian returns to the stage to join her in the song. The Duke's bodyguard tries to kill Christian but is thwarted by Toulouse-Lautrec, while the Duke's own attempt is stopped by Zidler. The furious Duke storms out of the cabaret. Christian and Satine complete their song to a standing ovation ("Come What May (Reprise)", "Coup d'État (Finale)").

As the curtain closes, Satine falls to the ground, succumbing to her illness. As the rest of the cast watches, she and Christian affirm their love before she dies. A year later, the Moulin Rouge has closed down, and Christian has written the tale of his love for Satine, a "love that will live forever".

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

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"Diamond Dogs" make an appearance in the film.

"DIAMOND DOG" is a slang term used by the elite?

You may think it is just a silly song sung by David Bowie on his album which was all about George Orwell's 1984 but it is much more than this.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The song was actually written somewhere around 1967 and appeared on an album in 1969, a while before the album which made it famous in 1974.

Bowie's song referred to young girls but the album cover showed rather fat middle age women?

The below video clip is really only here to show you the Diamond Dogs album cover of Bowie's. The words are what is said before the song starts. Interestingly he starts this song with the words "This ain't rock'n'roll this is genocide.



Now we have yet another reference to "Diamond Dogs" and this time, yes, showing them as older middle age plump women. The "Diamond Dogs" make an appearance in the film, the "Moulin Rouge."



At around 2.12 on the above clip the words "Diamond Dogs" appears on a typewriter. If you watch the movie, the whores at the Moulin Rouge are clearly called the "Diamond Dogs." This is a reference to the whore in the bible?

Note David Bowie became terrified of the elite and started to hide out ... also why on such a modern movie as the "Moulin Rouge" are fat old white women shown dancing? This is so out of step with what is normally shown so it is deliberate ... very deliberate. There is one old fat white women in the scene whom if you look closely appears to be in her fifths?

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keep going op
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Then there is the song "Like a Virgin" just a little pop song or something more?

Here are two U tube versions of the song

Madonna's version, notice all the water in the film and the Lion and Madonna hooks up with a non human stand in. The symbolism is definitely there in the form of the man in a Lions mask.



Now look at the "Moulin Rouge" version. Notice the picture in the background, the woman now coloured green is with what can only be described as a devil with horns.

The Duke in the movie really a stand in for an alien over seeing and making demands of man leaders, or elite?
He is wearing a cloak which he moves about like it is really wings and makes lion gestures.



Now notice some of the words ...

She's made it through the wilderness (bible reference)

Like a virgin
Touched for the very first time

Yes you made her feel
Shiny and new (renewed youth?)

She's so fine
And she's mine
She makes me strong

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Many know that the bible states, the waters of the world are meant to be made bitter from "Wormwood"

Well "Wormwood" is the main ingredient of Absinthe. In fact under the definition of "Absinthe" you find Wormwood.

[link to www.merriam-webster.com]

In the movie the "Moulin Rouge" the essence of a woman is shown as the green fairy which comes out when you drink Absinthe.



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What is wormwood?


Wormwood is the common name for Artemisia absinthium, the plant whose aromatic oil is used to make absinthe. Although absinthe contains extracts from a whole variety of different plants, wormwood oil is the key ingredient of the famed green drink, and perhaps the reason why absinthe is quite unlike any other liquor ever produced.

More and really interesting qualities and history can be found here ...

[link to www.absinthefever.com]



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The "Moulin Rouge" movie seems to be reality wrapped up in a film, there are incredible paintings on the walls.

Note a picture of a woman upside down naked with her legs and arms, wide spread eagled apart and what do you see? A pentacle, the sign of Venus and yes it is the sign of the light bearer ... Lucifer.

The female "Star" is called "Satine" yes, a female version of the name Satan. When you add ine to a males name you make it a females name, as in Pauline and and Christine.

She represents the "Fallen Star" in the bible and she literally falls from the heavens in the movie. Does she represent the Morning Star?

I cover this subject in a whole thread about it here.

Thread: * * * * * Who is she that looketh forth as the morning, fair as the moon? * * * * *

Also at the end of the Can Can song, is the lovely quote "Because we can can can."

Is that the elite rubbing your face in it "because we can can can?"

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Good work OP!
Thanks!
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keep going op
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Thanks, I need to collect a bit or stuff now so I will take a break while I get some more info together.
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All of Baz's stuff should be studied in detail. Romeo & Juliet is another crazy film filled with symbolism.
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Love that movie. One of my favorites!
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Wow, OP. You've really thought this through.
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Come what may.
"The earth is mother of us all, for she is just; but you, because you are unjust have pretended that she is your mother alone; and if you do not stop, I will not permit you to remain upon her."

[link to www.livius.org]
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"Rouge" is a word used by the Samurai meaning deception.
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All of Baz's stuff should be studied in detail. Romeo & Juliet is another crazy film filled with symbolism.
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Thanks for the tip, I will check it out.
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All of Baz's stuff should be studied in detail. Romeo & Juliet is another crazy film filled with symbolism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 926633


Idol1

good point

all kinds of secret school notes in romeo + juliet too.

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The picture of Dorian Gray{1945 film} is filled with all kinds of lovely symbolism. Alot of fun to watch and see the little bits here and there.
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The picture of Dorian Gray{1945 film} is filled with all kinds of lovely symbolism. Alot of fun to watch and see the little bits here and there.
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Love that film and the book as well! hf
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FASCINATING!!!!
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The movie to me is about Christian's and Satan.

Christian is the lead's name and Satine is the female lead which is female version of the name Satan or she is Satins seed.

Bohemian ideals which the movie is about, are the same ideals which Christianity hold dear.

The children of the revolution in Paris around the year 1900 were at the heart of the Bohemian movement which held dear the ideals of freedom, beauty, truth and love.

The show they were to put on, is their idea of what the world should be about. The star falls in love with a penniless sitar player, turning her back on the riches and wealth offered by the maharajah (HIGH KING).

In reality however things are different, the evil maharajah (HIGH KING = DUKE) is prepared to finance them into a lovely theater and give everyone a good standard of living, the price for this however is that the Star must be sacrificed to him. The Star, a courtesan (whore) is the sacrificial lamb and to soften the blow to the Christian, the whore is insulted and the Christian is told that you never fall in love with a whore Eg the Whore and Satan are demonized so they can be sacrificed and shunned.

For the good of everyone else, the star Satine much drive away the Christian and go with the evil maharajah (HIGH KING = DUKE). The christian must be lead to believe he was silly to love her in the first place.

The bible is all about God being given his sacrificial lamb and the sweet savior of it, this film explains just who are the sacrificial lambs?

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Come what May.
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Yes that is what I thought when I say it toO ...

Come WHAT May.
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Come what May.
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Yes that is what I thought when I say it toO ...

Come WHAT May.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308


Damn sham there is no edit button for me.

I meant to say ...

That is what I thought when I saw it too ...

Come WHAT May.
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I'll have to watch that tonight on netflix.
Great post OP!
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Come what May?
"The earth is mother of us all, for she is just; but you, because you are unjust have pretended that she is your mother alone; and if you do not stop, I will not permit you to remain upon her."

[link to www.livius.org]
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I appreciate this kind of in-depth analysis, but I am just so weary of the artificial world of Hollywood. I forced myself to watch the trailer and I got a creepy occult vibe from it. I don't care to delve into it and uncover its secret messages. I just want that whole frigging movie industry to be swallowed up by a tsunami.
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Come what May?
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"Come What May" phrase originates from Shakespeare's Macbeth and is along the meaning of let whatever events crop up come to pass.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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I appreciate this kind of in-depth analysis, but I am just so weary of the artificial world of Hollywood. I forced myself to watch the trailer and I got a creepy occult vibe from it. I don't care to delve into it and uncover its secret messages. I just want that whole frigging movie industry to be swallowed up by a tsunami.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 717934


+1
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In the bible First fruits are people ... the ones to be sacrificed or offered up.


Leviticus 2:12 As for the oblation of the firstfruits, ye shall offer them unto the LORD: but they shall not be burnt on the altar for a sweet savour.



Ezekiel 20:33 As I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out, will I rule over you:

Ezekiel 20:34 And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out.

Ezekiel 20:35 And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you face to face.

Ezekiel 20:36 Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will I plead with you, saith the Lord GOD.

Ezekiel 20:37 And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant:

Ezekiel 20:38 And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me: I will bring them forth out of the country where they sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.

Ezekiel 20:39 As for you, O house of Israel, thus saith the Lord GOD; Go ye, serve ye every one his idols, and hereafter also, if ye will not hearken unto me: but pollute ye my holy name no more with your gifts, and with your idols.

Ezekiel 20:40 For in mine holy mountain, in the mountain of the height of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, there shall all the house of Israel, all of them in the land, serve me: there will I accept them, and there will I require your offerings, and the firstfruits of your oblations, with all your holy things.

Ezekiel 20:41 I will accept you with your sweet savour, when I bring you out from the people, and gather you out of the countries wherein ye have been scattered; and I will be sanctified in you before the heathen.



Revelation 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. (this means true to the type inbred in them via the advanced humans, these are known as the Morning Stars)

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nice job OP! i'll have a look at the movie and see what i can add
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i used to love this film, nut knowing what i know these days, i just stay away from hollywood garbage.