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Teachers today tell us that the Sabbath has either been changed, or abolished. Others are pushing for a Sunday law. But the people of God will remain faithful to the end (Revelation 22:14). Will you be ready for whats coming?

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"This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men." Matthew 15:8,9

Germany's mandatory national Sunday Law:



60 Bible Facts on the seventh-day of the week:



"God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth." John 4:24

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The Truth About Thread: The FINAL EVENTS Of Bible Prophecy

"We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist." - Martin Luther (Aug. 18, 1520)

"While God has given ample evidence for faith, He will never remove all excuse for unbelief. All who look for hooks to hang their doubts upon will find them. And those who refuse to accept and obey God's Word until every objection has been removed, and there is no longer an opportunity for doubt, will never come to the light" (The Great Controversy, p. 527).

"Jesus did not come to change the law, but he came to explain it, and that very fact shows that it remains, for there is no need to explain that which is abrogated." - Charles Spurgeon

"Jesuit Adam Weishaupt established the modern version of the Illuminati specifically to be a front organization behind which the Jesuits could hide. After being formally abolished by Pope Clement XIV in 1773, the Jesuits used the Illuminati and other organizations to carry out their operations. Thus, the front organizations would be blamed for the trouble caused by the Jesuits."
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I think the reasoning behind Sunday becoming the sabbath is because Jesus rose on that day (or at least his empty grave was discovered then). Changing the sabbath to Sunday was an outgrowth of that. Jesus said: Man is not made for the sabbath but the sabbath for man. He didn't say that the sabbath should always extend from sundown on Friday to sundown on Saturday. In my mind, God made the very practical recommendation, in the form of a commandment, that we needed one day a week when we could forget about the world and focus (feed) on him. Whether that day is Sunday, Saturday, Tuesday or Friday, I don't think it matters. But that's just my two cents worth. I frankly wish every day was a sabbath (so I could spend all my time with God), but God wouldn't approve of that. :0)
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What do you guys do on the sabbath? How do you worship?
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I study with the SDA and keep God's Sabbath faithfully. That being said, after years of studying this issue, I believe Sunday law is a prediction not found in the Bible.

In general Bible prophecy is not about predicting the future. We are told as a matter of fact that Jesus will return. However the prophetic events fortold between are given so we can review the scriptures after the fact and find history was fulfilled and that there is a God who tells the future.

The Catholic empire fell in 1870. Since then Jesuit led Freemasonry has been the beast. The Catholic Church remains, the empire is gone and will not be coming back EVER, not as long as Freemasons run Washington DC, London, ect. Revf 17 says Jesus Christ destroys their NWO empire.

While the SDA denomination has a lot of biblical truth and I believe will be saved there is a wicked element in SDA. The same element giving Walter Veith a terrible time. There are Freemasons at the highest levels. They are protecting the masonic earth beast with claims about a coming revived Catholic Sunday religious persecution. Meanwhile the secular Freemasons are persecuting us to death.

Another error that had to be invented was the future seven vials. The first few vials poured at the time of the mark of the beast, 1798 in France and Europe. (some believe included the US Civil War, 1860.) William Miller and many others knew the vials had begun.
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I think the reasoning behind Sunday becoming the sabbath is because Jesus rose on that day (or at least his empty grave was discovered then). Changing the sabbath to Sunday was an outgrowth of that. Jesus said: Man is not made for the sabbath but the sabbath for man. He didn't say that the sabbath should always extend from sundown on Friday to sundown on Saturday. In my mind, God made the very practical recommendation, in the form of a commandment, that we needed one day a week when we could forget about the world and focus (feed) on him. Whether that day is Sunday, Saturday, Tuesday or Friday, I don't think it matters. But that's just my two cents worth. I frankly wish every day was a sabbath (so I could spend all my time with God), but God wouldn't approve of that. :0)
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The pope made Sunday worship. God said the day was the 7th. We choose who to serve with this test issue.

“On the venerable Day of the Sun let the magistrates and people residing in cities rest, and let all workshops be closed.” (7th day of March, A.D. 321, Codex Justinianus)

“Christians shall not Judaize and be idle on Saturday, but shall work on that day; but the Lord's day they shall especially honour, and as being Christians, shall, if possible, do no work on that day. If, however, they are found Judaizing, they shall be shut out ["anathema" excommunicated] from Christ.” (Council of Laodicea, A.D. 364)
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I think you're all stupid and mind controlled .
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The Truth About Thread: The FINAL EVENTS Of Bible Prophecy

"We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist." - Martin Luther (Aug. 18, 1520)

"While God has given ample evidence for faith, He will never remove all excuse for unbelief. All who look for hooks to hang their doubts upon will find them. And those who refuse to accept and obey God's Word until every objection has been removed, and there is no longer an opportunity for doubt, will never come to the light" (The Great Controversy, p. 527).

"Jesus did not come to change the law, but he came to explain it, and that very fact shows that it remains, for there is no need to explain that which is abrogated." - Charles Spurgeon

"Jesuit Adam Weishaupt established the modern version of the Illuminati specifically to be a front organization behind which the Jesuits could hide. After being formally abolished by Pope Clement XIV in 1773, the Jesuits used the Illuminati and other organizations to carry out their operations. Thus, the front organizations would be blamed for the trouble caused by the Jesuits."
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What do you guys do on the sabbath? How do you worship?
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Our goal is follow God's instructions given to us in Scripture in regards to keeping it holy.

First and foremost, Exodus 20:8-11 tells us that the seventh-day Sabbath is the holy day of the Lord and we are to not do any work during that time; the Sabbath being from sunset on Friday to sunset on Saturday; a 24 hour period.

We do no work that we typically do during the week or errands, chores, and common activities which could be done during any other day. Because God rested on the seventh-day at creation, we also rest on the 7th day to commemorate and honor the One who has created us in His image.

We do not treat this day as a holiday but as a holy day. A 24-hour period where we detach ourselves from our daily life, and spend this time in close communion with the Father & Jesus Christ and with fellowship with other believers.

We follow the clear instructions of Isaiah 58:13,14 which says,

"If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:

Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it."

It is a 24-hour period of perfect peace, bliss, and solemn but joyous communion with the Lord. We don't look at this day as a time when we can't do certain things, but rather as a time when we focus especially on doing certain things; things which connect us and bring us closer to God; whether it be studying the Scriptures alone or with others, enjoying the beauty of nature while contemplating God's love and mercy, pouring our hearts out to the Lord in deep prayer, or as simply as going to church with other believers to glorify and worship God.

As God instructed us through Isaiah, we turn away from our own pleasures that self may still be attracted to. We put out of our minds the cares and worries of the weekly life. We deny ourselves, out of our love for our Savior, worldly things and pleasures, aiming to have every word, thought, and deed be focused on the Lord Jehovah and Jesus Christ. It is a symbol of our sanctification, of the change of heart and mind that God's grace and Holy Spirit is making in us, and a promise of the sinless world of peace that we will live in in the near future.

To those of us who keep it holy out of love for our God and Savior, there really is no other time more precious than the Sabbath. It truly is a special day every time we come to it, and we are blessed through it to the uttermost.

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The Truth About Thread: The FINAL EVENTS Of Bible Prophecy

"We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist." - Martin Luther (Aug. 18, 1520)

"While God has given ample evidence for faith, He will never remove all excuse for unbelief. All who look for hooks to hang their doubts upon will find them. And those who refuse to accept and obey God's Word until every objection has been removed, and there is no longer an opportunity for doubt, will never come to the light" (The Great Controversy, p. 527).

"Jesus did not come to change the law, but he came to explain it, and that very fact shows that it remains, for there is no need to explain that which is abrogated." - Charles Spurgeon

"Jesuit Adam Weishaupt established the modern version of the Illuminati specifically to be a front organization behind which the Jesuits could hide. After being formally abolished by Pope Clement XIV in 1773, the Jesuits used the Illuminati and other organizations to carry out their operations. Thus, the front organizations would be blamed for the trouble caused by the Jesuits."
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I study with the SDA and keep God's Sabbath faithfully. That being said, after years of studying this issue, I believe Sunday law is a prediction not found in the Bible.

The Catholic empire fell in 1870. Since then Jesuit led Freemasonry has been the beast. The Catholic Church remains, the empire is gone and will not be coming back EVER, not as long as Freemasons run Washington DC, London, ect. Revf 17 says Jesus Christ destroys their NWO empire.

Another error that had to be invented was the future seven vials. The first few vials poured at the time of the mark of the beast, 1798 in France and Europe. (some believe included the US Civil War, 1860.) William Miller and many others knew the vials had begun.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1323096


What you say is erroneous and I highly doubt you studied with SDAs considering the things you are saying here.

The Catholic Church received a wound in 1798, a historical fact. Furthermore, it is the same Papal system which, through the military order of the Jesuits, controls Freemasonry and its sister organizations.

Vials are still yet future and so is the day Sunday Law. Perhaps you would like to discuss these things with me on here from the Scriptures? I'll be more than happy to have a civilized conversation about this.
The Truth About Thread: The FINAL EVENTS Of Bible Prophecy

"We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist." - Martin Luther (Aug. 18, 1520)

"While God has given ample evidence for faith, He will never remove all excuse for unbelief. All who look for hooks to hang their doubts upon will find them. And those who refuse to accept and obey God's Word until every objection has been removed, and there is no longer an opportunity for doubt, will never come to the light" (The Great Controversy, p. 527).

"Jesus did not come to change the law, but he came to explain it, and that very fact shows that it remains, for there is no need to explain that which is abrogated." - Charles Spurgeon

"Jesuit Adam Weishaupt established the modern version of the Illuminati specifically to be a front organization behind which the Jesuits could hide. After being formally abolished by Pope Clement XIV in 1773, the Jesuits used the Illuminati and other organizations to carry out their operations. Thus, the front organizations would be blamed for the trouble caused by the Jesuits."
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Find something new to protest. Christians have been
celebrating the Lord's Day on Sunday for 2000 years.

Get over it, you're wrong. Silly of them, Sunday is the
day Our arose from the dead. I guess they decided to honor
Jesus and God the Father. And a New Covenant joy and
Truth, we love and honor God the Holy Spirit too.

The first Christians gathered to worship God, to celebrate
the Holy Mass on the "first day of the week." It's written
in the Gospel. We are in the New Covenant!!!
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Find something new to protest. Christians have been
celebrating the Lord's Day on Sunday for 2000 years.

Get over it, you're wrong. Silly of them, Sunday is the
day Our Lord arose from the dead. I guess they decided to honorJesus and God the Father. And a New Covenant joy and Truth, we love and honor God the Holy Spirit too.

The first Christians gathered to worship God, to celebrate
the Holy Mass on the "first day of the week." It's written
in the Gospel. We are in the New Covenant!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1309474


I typed in "Lord" in this post.

Acts Of Apostles 20:7
And on the first day of the week, when we were assembled to break bread, Paul discoursed with them, being to depart on the morrow: and he continued his speech until midnight.

7 1 Corinthians 16:2
On the first day of the week let every one of you put apart with himself, laying up what it shall well please him; that when I come, the collections be not then to be made.
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Even though I don't believe 100% wit sda preach i have great respect for them because they're one of the few churches that still interpret prophecy through the historicist point of view and they have a great health message. They remind me of daniel in the bible
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Saturday and Sunday is called the weekend.


Sat Mar 1/14/11
John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God
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Saturday and Sunday is called the weekend.


Sat Mar 1/14/11
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LOL, where's your papal mitre Russ?
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Probation Closes

Michael stands up and the Second Coming is at hand. This is found in the 7th Vial when Jesus says "It is done."

Rev.16:17 "And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done."

The vials have been pouring since the French Revolution of 1789. The fall of Babylon in 1870 was the 5th vial. The 6th vial has the three unclean frog spirits most admit we see at work today.

According to Historicist interpretation the next event will be the Second Coming. There's literally nothing left!

Could be this year, maybe in 10 years. It seems Satan knows time is short, thus the 2012 time-setting and outher UFO psy-ops.
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Find something new to protest. Christians have been
celebrating the Lord's Day on Sunday for 2000 years.

Get over it, you're wrong. Silly of them, Sunday is the
day Our arose from the dead. I guess they decided to honor
Jesus and God the Father. And a New Covenant joy and
Truth, we love and honor God the Holy Spirit too.

The first Christians gathered to worship God, to celebrate
the Holy Mass on the "first day of the week." It's written
in the Gospel. We are in the New Covenant!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1309474


It is historical fact that the apostles and the early Christians kept the seventh-day Sabbath holy.

It is the same reason God Himself tells us that we will keep His seventh-day Sabbath on the New Earth after everything is made new.

Notice Isaiah 66:22,23

"For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.

And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD."



It is best to do that which pleases the LORD regardless of how much it conflicts with what we used to believe.
The Truth About Thread: The FINAL EVENTS Of Bible Prophecy

"We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist." - Martin Luther (Aug. 18, 1520)

"While God has given ample evidence for faith, He will never remove all excuse for unbelief. All who look for hooks to hang their doubts upon will find them. And those who refuse to accept and obey God's Word until every objection has been removed, and there is no longer an opportunity for doubt, will never come to the light" (The Great Controversy, p. 527).

"Jesus did not come to change the law, but he came to explain it, and that very fact shows that it remains, for there is no need to explain that which is abrogated." - Charles Spurgeon

"Jesuit Adam Weishaupt established the modern version of the Illuminati specifically to be a front organization behind which the Jesuits could hide. After being formally abolished by Pope Clement XIV in 1773, the Jesuits used the Illuminati and other organizations to carry out their operations. Thus, the front organizations would be blamed for the trouble caused by the Jesuits."
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Its Interesting that out of the Ten Commandments
The 4th Commandment is the Only one that says:
REMEMBER and Almost the Whole of Christianity FORGOT

In 120 Languages Saturday is a Variation on the word Sabbath

Lots of People say its The Jewish Day BUT

were Adam and Eve Jewish?(no), They kept the Sabbath with God
every Saturday God walked and talked with them

The Papacy says the Mark of their authority is that they changed The Day to Sunday (Roman Feast Day)

(its a move that's devoid of Scriptures or Gods Blessing
see God Said he Blessed that Day He didn't Bless Sunday)

"And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change Times and Laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time." Daniel 7:25
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Sunday Laws being set-up and re-strengthened in the Netherlands: [link to www.dutchnews.nl]

The three Christian parties in the senate, together with the Socialists, have voted to tighten up Sunday trading laws.

The change will close a loophole allowing local authorities to sanction Sunday shopping because they are in tourist areas.

The Christian parties want to preserve Sunday as a day of rest, while the SP
is opposed to workers being forced to work at the weekend.
 Quoting: DutchNews


TIME IS SHORT.
The Truth About Thread: The FINAL EVENTS Of Bible Prophecy

"We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist." - Martin Luther (Aug. 18, 1520)

"While God has given ample evidence for faith, He will never remove all excuse for unbelief. All who look for hooks to hang their doubts upon will find them. And those who refuse to accept and obey God's Word until every objection has been removed, and there is no longer an opportunity for doubt, will never come to the light" (The Great Controversy, p. 527).

"Jesus did not come to change the law, but he came to explain it, and that very fact shows that it remains, for there is no need to explain that which is abrogated." - Charles Spurgeon

"Jesuit Adam Weishaupt established the modern version of the Illuminati specifically to be a front organization behind which the Jesuits could hide. After being formally abolished by Pope Clement XIV in 1773, the Jesuits used the Illuminati and other organizations to carry out their operations. Thus, the front organizations would be blamed for the trouble caused by the Jesuits."
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Little by little. It's coming.


Christians, socialists vote to tighten up Sunday shopping rules in the NETHERLANDS.

The three Christian parties in the senate, together with the Socialists, have voted to tighten up Sunday trading laws.

The change will close a loophole allowing local authorities to sanction Sunday shopping because they are in tourist areas.

The Christian parties want to preserve Sunday as a day of rest, while the SP
is opposed to workers being forced to work at the weekend.

The VVD voted against the measure even though it is supported by the new government.

Prime minister and VVD leader Mark Rutte reportedly agreed to press ahead with the restrictions as a gesture to the fundamentalist Christian party SGP. Its support could be crucial to pass other legislation in the lower house of parliament.

When the new rules come into effect, shops in areas which are not considered tourist attractions will only be able to open 12 Sundays a year.
 Quoting: DutchNews


[link to www.dutchnews.nl]

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The Truth About Thread: The FINAL EVENTS Of Bible Prophecy

"We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist." - Martin Luther (Aug. 18, 1520)

"While God has given ample evidence for faith, He will never remove all excuse for unbelief. All who look for hooks to hang their doubts upon will find them. And those who refuse to accept and obey God's Word until every objection has been removed, and there is no longer an opportunity for doubt, will never come to the light" (The Great Controversy, p. 527).

"Jesus did not come to change the law, but he came to explain it, and that very fact shows that it remains, for there is no need to explain that which is abrogated." - Charles Spurgeon

"Jesuit Adam Weishaupt established the modern version of the Illuminati specifically to be a front organization behind which the Jesuits could hide. After being formally abolished by Pope Clement XIV in 1773, the Jesuits used the Illuminati and other organizations to carry out their operations. Thus, the front organizations would be blamed for the trouble caused by the Jesuits."
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[link to www.ewtnnews.com]

already starting
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[link to www.thetrumpet.com]


Coincident with the enacting of the Lisbon Treaty/EU constitution on December 1, Germany’s Constitutional Court has ruled that the nation’s capital must, like the rest of the country, abide by the law instituting Sunday as a day “of rest from work and of spiritual improvement” (Deutsche Welle, December 1).

Since the war, Berlin had enacted its own legislation allowing 10 shopping Sundays per year. That local ruling is now quashed. Effective from Jan. 1, 2010, Berlin must fall into line with the law institutionalizing Sunday as a day of rest and religious contemplation as contained in Germany’s Basic Law...
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Find something new to protest. Christians have been
celebrating the Lord's Day on Sunday for 2000 years.

Get over it, you're wrong. Silly of them, Sunday is the
day Our arose from the dead. I guess they decided to honor
Jesus and God the Father. And a New Covenant joy and
Truth, we love and honor God the Holy Spirit too.

The first Christians gathered to worship God, to celebrate
the Holy Mass on the "first day of the week." It's written
in the Gospel. We are in the New Covenant!!!
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sorry but the ten commandments were not done away with the new covenant. What was done away with was the ceremonial laws and sabbaths. There are different kind of sabbaths that forshadowed the coming of Christ but the Seventh day sabbath was not one of them. The sevent day sabbath was instated before there were any jewish people, before there was sin therfore its not a foreshadowment of Christs atonement to sin. there is a reason why the ten commandments were IN the ark of the covenant and why the ceremonial laws, rituals and ceremonial sabbaths were kept OUTSIDE of the ark of the COVENANT. THe law of God (ten commandments) is forever, it cannot be changed. OUt of all the laws the sabbath law is the one that mentions who God is, his title and territory. amazing how the only commandment that starts with REMEMBER is the one people have forgotten and assume it has been done away with. you guys didnt think the endtime delusion would be an obvios one, right? these very same people if you ask them if the other 9 commandment have been dont away with will so a firm NO. the apostles and early church worshipped God in many different days and probably worshipped God everyday like we should but that is not what the 4th commandment states. it says to REST of the sabbath day. id doesnt say only worship on the sabbath day. we rest to remember that God is our creator, to give our bodies rest and since we have free time it makes sense to use that time to worship Him just like we should every day.
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Find something new to protest. Christians have been
celebrating the Lord's Day on Sunday for 2000 years.

Get over it, you're wrong. Silly of them, Sunday is the
day Our arose from the dead. I guess they decided to honor
Jesus and God the Father. And a New Covenant joy and
Truth, we love and honor God the Holy Spirit too.

The first Christians gathered to worship God, to celebrate
the Holy Mass on the "first day of the week." It's written
in the Gospel. We are in the New Covenant!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1309474


sorry but the ten commandments were not done away with the new covenant. What was done away with was the ceremonial laws and sabbaths. There are different kind of sabbaths that forshadowed the coming of Christ but the Seventh day sabbath was not one of them. The sevent day sabbath was instated before there were any jewish people, before there was sin therfore its not a foreshadowment of Christs atonement to sin. there is a reason why the ten commandments were IN the ark of the covenant and why the ceremonial laws, rituals and ceremonial sabbaths were kept OUTSIDE of the ark of the COVENANT. THe law of God (ten commandments) is forever, it cannot be changed. OUt of all the laws the sabbath law is the one that mentions who God is, his title and territory. amazing how the only commandment that starts with REMEMBER is the one people have forgotten and assume it has been done away with. you guys didnt think the endtime delusion would be an obvios one, right? these very same people if you ask them if the other 9 commandment have been dont away with will so a firm NO. the apostles and early church worshipped God in many different days and probably worshipped God everyday like we should but that is not what the 4th commandment states. it says to REST of the sabbath day. id doesnt say only worship on the sabbath day. we rest to remember that God is our creator, to give our bodies rest and since we have free time it makes sense to use that time to worship Him just like we should every day.
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sorry, too many typos. My keyboard is messin up.
correction:

Sorry, but the Ten Commandments were not done away with the new covenant. What were done away with were the ceremonial laws and Sabbaths. There are different kinds of Sabbath’s that foreshadowed the coming of Christ but the Seventh day Sabbath was not one of them. The seventh day Sabbath was instated before there were any Jewish people; before there was sin therefore it’s not a foreshadowment of Christ’s atonement to sin. There is a reason why the Ten Commandments were IN the Ark of the Covenant and why the ceremonial laws, rituals and ceremonial Sabbath’s were kept OUTSIDE of the ark of the COVENANT. The law of God (Ten Commandments) is forever, it cannot be changed. Out of all the laws the Sabbath law is the one that mentions who God is, his title and territory. Amazing how the only commandment that starts with REMEMBER is the one people have forgotten and assume it has been done away with. You guys didn’t think the end time delusion would be an obvious one, right? These very same people, if you ask them if the other 9 commandment have been don’t away with, will so a firm NO. The apostles and early church worshipped God in many different days and probably worshipped God everyday like we should but that is not what the 4th commandment states. It says to REST on the Sabbath day. it doesn’t say only worship on the Sabbath day. we rest to remember that God is our creator, to give our bodies rest and since we have free time it makes sense to use that time to worship Him just like we should every day.
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OP - I too am a historicist when it comes to understanding the Bible - and I study a lot of SDA material including Veith which is fantastic in his teachings.

There was a blue law here years ago and Nothing was opened on Sunday for years and years. Then it is was taken away and now here we are. My point being nothing happened then and nothing has happened since.

JRuss is right it is the weekend, and at one time that meant people didn't work, of course now many work.

You should see the people in Israel keep the sabbath it is unbelievable. They are very strict and enforce it - it is fascinating actually to see them prepare for the sabbath. Their's is a works religion and I do not hold any ill will for their culture it is just different than ours.

In the New Testament Jesus declares Himself the Lord of the Sabbath, He is our rest. Christianity is the First worldwide faith in history. He set us free from the Law in that there are no religious rituals to perform as there is no Temple, we are the Temple, and most of the feast days have been fulfilled in Christ. We do not have any pilgramages to attend, no tithes that we must pay, etc...

If as Jesus says, He is the Lord of the Sabbath, and He says to be ready in season and out of season, I would think that no day, hour, or place should be held above another when it comes to His commandment, to preach the Word. The Good News is wherever two or more are gathered in His Name, sometimes this is on a corner of a busy street. He is our Sabbath Rest, we rest in Him fulfilling the True meaning of the Sabbath Rest. Any day or hour we are at peace with God because we are the Temple.

In the age to come, that would be a different setting as God so chooses. Blessed we are.

I would not put anything past the Catholic Church as it is a works religion and they love to ensnare and condemn those that do not believe that works or the church(catholic) saves, only Jesus saves.

And I agree, the seventh day would be the day of rest, but is going to church fulfillment of that rest which has a lot of rules as to what you can and can't do on that day? Again, it is back to works.

No one could keep the Law, God is Perfect and the Law is Perfect, we are not. Now is the age of Grace for all, not just a certain bloodline or a people of a Temple
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Ezekiel 20:11-12 "And I gave them my statutes, and shewed them my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them.
Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a SIGN between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them."

"Remember the 7th day to keep it holy"

"He will speak against the Most High and oppress his saints and try to change the set times and the laws. The saints will be handed over to him for a time, times and half a time."

The sign, or mark,, of God's authority in your life is the Sabbath (7th) Day. The beast changed time and date - the Papacy changed the Sabbath from the 7th to the 1st day. This is the Mark IN the forehead.

REMEMBER my Sabbath!
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Find something new to protest. Christians have been
celebrating the Lord's Day on Sunday for 2000 years.

Get over it, you're wrong. Silly of them, Sunday is the
day Our arose from the dead. I guess they decided to honor
Jesus and God the Father. And a New Covenant joy and
Truth, we love and honor God the Holy Spirit too.

The first Christians gathered to worship God, to celebrate
the Holy Mass on the "first day of the week." It's written
in the Gospel. We are in the New Covenant!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1309474


The Sabbath is not about Jesus but His Father´s command:

8Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. 9Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your manservant or maidservant, nor your animals, nor the alien within your gates. 11For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy. Exodus 20
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... and jewish people as well. The true Sabbath is lunar.

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