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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1314903 United States 03/31/2011 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im gay an Im sick of it. Why do I need special rights to have sex with other men?? and children need to learn what they need for the future not a bunch of gay shit. leave them alone an I'll do my thing in the privacy of my own home. Quoting: Reptillian OverlordDOnt wanna be bashed for being gay...then dont flaunt it in public. The best response from a gay person i have ever read in my life. You're 1 in a million dude. Well done. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1321807 Netherlands 03/31/2011 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im gay an Im sick of it. Why do I need special rights to have sex with other men?? and children need to learn what they need for the future not a bunch of gay shit. leave them alone an I'll do my thing in the privacy of my own home. Quoting: Reptillian OverlordDOnt wanna be bashed for being gay...then dont flaunt it in public. The best response from a gay person i have ever read in my life. You're 1 in a million dude. Well done. I don't think that was a gay. You people are so stupid it's sad. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1322513 Netherlands 03/31/2011 05:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Godsontoo There is nothing natural about being gay. If you are sexually attracted to the same sex then you are gay are you not? What do you think should be done with these people? gas them? The Bible says we should spill their blood. Instead of gassing them we should machine gun them all down. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 688990 United Kingdom 03/31/2011 05:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The huge irony, of course, is that the only people who bring up the subject of homosexuality on this forum (constantly) are the ones who are against it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 688990Makes you wonder does'nt it? No, the only people who get flak on these boards are the gays who still want to push their agenda in everyone's face and make the world proclaim them as amazing, special people. After that is posted, is when the criticism begins. A typical gay smug post from you, acting as if gay people simply cannot be at fault for anything. Surely you have to see how this attitude is grating to the straight society, and dissuades them from sympathy for you? ...and that's really why people get so angry about the gays on here. Sick of hearing about it, sick of the smugness, sick of you pushing your agenda in every single facet of society, as if everyone else has to change because a minority of people want to be seen as special. Well all i can say is you're esily upset. Worry about more important things in the world that actually matter. Is that so hard? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1291146 United States 03/31/2011 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im gay an Im sick of it. Why do I need special rights to have sex with other men?? and children need to learn what they need for the future not a bunch of gay shit. leave them alone an I'll do my thing in the privacy of my own home. Quoting: Reptillian OverlordDOnt wanna be bashed for being gay...then dont flaunt it in public. The best response from a gay person i have ever read in my life. You're 1 in a million dude. Well done. I don't think that was a gay. You people are so stupid it's sad. Yeah I am gay. do I have to Support gay rights to be gay? do I have to want to included homosexuaity in a childs schooling to be gay? DO I have to agree with every gay person to be gay? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 688990 United Kingdom 03/31/2011 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1273882There is nothing natural about being gay. If you are sexually attracted to the same sex then you are gay are you not? What do you think should be done with these people? gas them? The Bible says we should spill their blood. Instead of gassing them we should machine gun them all down. Spoken like a true troll, because no one who actually says the crap you've come out with in this thread can be serious. If you are being serious then get help fast. |
ajk User ID: 1114631 United States 03/31/2011 05:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 688990But you still hate his guts don't you? No i actually don't. I hate his acts of vile gay sex, but just as i hate vile acts of pornography.......or any other sin for that matter. Including the ones i commit daily myself. Accepting the sin of gay sex as normal isn't the answer- just as accepting the sin of stealing, murder, adultery, etc., as normal isn't the answer. people are gay not by their own choice and sex between two consenting adults cannot be compared with the other things you mentioned. Having an 'urge' and ACTING are two different things. I have urges daily that i suppress and don't ACT upon. That's the difference. But the difference is, you're asking them to basically deny how they were made to be. Would it be fair to you, for them to ask you to deny your heterosexual urges forever, because they thought they were wrong? Could you do it? If not, how is it fair to ask them to do it with theirs? They can't help who they are attracted to, as much as you can't. Last Edited by ajk on 03/31/2011 05:51 PM No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds. Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God. If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government "Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn "This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll "If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy." |
Dundas User ID: 1318343 United States 03/31/2011 05:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No i actually don't. I hate his acts of vile gay sex, but just as i hate vile acts of pornography.......or any other sin for that matter. Including the ones i commit daily myself. Quoting: DundasAccepting the sin of gay sex as normal isn't the answer- just as accepting the sin of stealing, murder, adultery, etc., as normal isn't the answer. Adultery and gay stuff is later added to the word of god by conservative idiots who never have sex without the lights of. Victorian times with their stupid victorian morals. The real sins include a victim. The victim is themselves. Those who act upon every type of sexual urge or fantasy are polluting their souls. They are acclimating themselves for an impure and unholy place. They are the perpetrators AND the victims. And BTW, you're ignorant about Biblical literary history. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1314903 United States 03/31/2011 05:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The huge irony, of course, is that the only people who bring up the subject of homosexuality on this forum (constantly) are the ones who are against it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 688990Makes you wonder does'nt it? No, the only people who get flak on these boards are the gays who still want to push their agenda in everyone's face and make the world proclaim them as amazing, special people. After that is posted, is when the criticism begins. A typical gay smug post from you, acting as if gay people simply cannot be at fault for anything. Surely you have to see how this attitude is grating to the straight society, and dissuades them from sympathy for you? ...and that's really why people get so angry about the gays on here. Sick of hearing about it, sick of the smugness, sick of you pushing your agenda in every single facet of society, as if everyone else has to change because a minority of people want to be seen as special. Well all i can say is you're esily upset. Worry about more important things in the world that actually matter. Is that so hard? As opposed to...what you're concerned about? Which is putting up posts denegrating straight people? It's called a culture war, stupid. Trying to take down my argument by saying it's stupid to argue against the very issue you're arguing about... Fine. There are more important things in the world. So how about both sides shut up about it, then? Oh that's right, the PC bullshit in society since the 90's demanded that, and now you can't go 5 minutes without some gay person screaming about some mythical "rights", which when dissected actually means "We need everyone to love all things gay, and worship us for how amazing we are!" You stop arguing, I'll stop arguing. After all, it's totally a stupid, inconsequential issue, right? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 688990 United Kingdom 03/31/2011 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The huge irony, of course, is that the only people who bring up the subject of homosexuality on this forum (constantly) are the ones who are against it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 688990Makes you wonder does'nt it? No, the only people who get flak on these boards are the gays who still want to push their agenda in everyone's face and make the world proclaim them as amazing, special people. After that is posted, is when the criticism begins. A typical gay smug post from you, acting as if gay people simply cannot be at fault for anything. Surely you have to see how this attitude is grating to the straight society, and dissuades them from sympathy for you? ...and that's really why people get so angry about the gays on here. Sick of hearing about it, sick of the smugness, sick of you pushing your agenda in every single facet of society, as if everyone else has to change because a minority of people want to be seen as special. Well all i can say is you're esily upset. Worry about more important things in the world that actually matter. Is that so hard? As opposed to...what you're concerned about? Which is putting up posts denegrating straight people? It's called a culture war, stupid. Trying to take down my argument by saying it's stupid to argue against the very issue you're arguing about... Fine. There are more important things in the world. So how about both sides shut up about it, then? Oh that's right, the PC bullshit in society since the 90's demanded that, and now you can't go 5 minutes without some gay person screaming about some mythical "rights", which when dissected actually means "We need everyone to love all things gay, and worship us for how amazing we are!" You stop arguing, I'll stop arguing. After all, it's totally a stupid, inconsequential issue, right? This is a thread started by a gay basher and all i was doing was defending who i am. Don't i have that right? |
Khim User ID: 1021731 United States 03/31/2011 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are far more pressing issues facing our nation and the world that need to be addressed. This divisive issue is a ridiculous interruption and only a symptom of far deeper problems that must be addressed - first. Once your house is in order it is easier to see the dust. I frankly don't give a shit who sleeps with who. It's not my job to dictate morality nor enforce it. That job belongs to God. So instead of forcing your agenda, perhaps you should follow Christ's example which is to lead by example instead of anger. Last Edited by Khim on 03/31/2011 06:00 PM |
ajk User ID: 1114631 United States 03/31/2011 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are far more pressing issues facing our nation and the world that need to be addressed. This divisive issue is a ridiculous interruption and only a symptom a far deeper problems that must be addressed - first. Quoting: KhimOnce your house is in order it is easier to see the dust. It really shouldn't even be an issue at all, it's religion that has made it as such, to divide us further from each other than we already are. No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds. Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God. If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government "Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn "This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll "If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 688990 United Kingdom 03/31/2011 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I AM SICK OF THESE GAYBASHING THREADS!! Quoting: waterlily27Then gay people should stop putting up the "Straight People Are Stupid, Gays Are The Best!" threads. Have'nt you got the basic intelligence to realise that anyone starting a thread with such a title is covertly bashing gays and just want's to stir shit? That's a rhetorical question of course. |
Khim User ID: 1021731 United States 03/31/2011 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are far more pressing issues facing our nation and the world that need to be addressed. This divisive issue is a ridiculous interruption and only a symptom of far deeper problems that must be addressed - first. Quoting: KhimOnce your house is in order it is easier to see the dust. I frankly don't give a shit who sleeps with who. It's not my job to dictate morality nor enforce it. That job belongs to God. So instead of forcing your agenda, perhaps you should follow Christ's example which is to lead by example instead of anger. Updated.... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1314903 United States 03/31/2011 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1314903No, the only people who get flak on these boards are the gays who still want to push their agenda in everyone's face and make the world proclaim them as amazing, special people. After that is posted, is when the criticism begins. A typical gay smug post from you, acting as if gay people simply cannot be at fault for anything. Surely you have to see how this attitude is grating to the straight society, and dissuades them from sympathy for you? ...and that's really why people get so angry about the gays on here. Sick of hearing about it, sick of the smugness, sick of you pushing your agenda in every single facet of society, as if everyone else has to change because a minority of people want to be seen as special. Well all i can say is you're esily upset. Worry about more important things in the world that actually matter. Is that so hard? As opposed to...what you're concerned about? Which is putting up posts denegrating straight people? It's called a culture war, stupid. Trying to take down my argument by saying it's stupid to argue against the very issue you're arguing about... Fine. There are more important things in the world. So how about both sides shut up about it, then? Oh that's right, the PC bullshit in society since the 90's demanded that, and now you can't go 5 minutes without some gay person screaming about some mythical "rights", which when dissected actually means "We need everyone to love all things gay, and worship us for how amazing we are!" You stop arguing, I'll stop arguing. After all, it's totally a stupid, inconsequential issue, right? This is a thread started by a gay basher and all i was doing was defending who i am. Don't i have that right? You sure do. But why waste your time? Worry about more important things going on in the world, that matter. Is that so hard? |
Dundas User ID: 1318343 United States 03/31/2011 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: DundasNo i actually don't. I hate his acts of vile gay sex, but just as i hate vile acts of pornography.......or any other sin for that matter. Including the ones i commit daily myself. Accepting the sin of gay sex as normal isn't the answer- just as accepting the sin of stealing, murder, adultery, etc., as normal isn't the answer. people are gay not by their own choice and sex between two consenting adults cannot be compared with the other things you mentioned. Having an 'urge' and ACTING are two different things. I have urges daily that i suppress and don't ACT upon. That's the difference. But the difference is, you're asking them to basically deny how they were made to be. Would it be fair to you, for them to ask you to deny your heterosexual urges forever, because they thought they were wrong? Could you do it? If not, how is it fair to ask them to do it with theirs? They can't help who they are attracted to, as much as you can't. Well, first off there is no proof gays are born that way...although personally i believe it to be a two-fold process of predisposition through fetal chemical development, coupled with unseen forces of malevolence (demons) planting subconscious suggestions that parallel the predisposed urges. Secondly, if we think that alcoholics, or kleptomaniacs, or any other group who practices sinful acts are born that way, should we encourage their behavior? Should we just toss in the towel and be like, "Welp, they were born to drink themselves to death, or to steal until they're imprisoned, so let's promote their lifestyle as healthy and normal cause that's the way they're born." Honestly, it is a riddle that doesn't seem to have an easy answer. Maybe a gay person that stays celibate holds a high place in heaven based on their purity under heavy fire. Maybe the whole 'born that way' is a crock of shit. No one knows for sure yet. But i do know that a person can't choose to be attracted to the same sex. It has to be some sort of predisposition through fetal development, or another psychological factor of some sort. But what i do know and believe is that gay sex is vile and nasty, and one who has the urge to practice it should try their best to abstain....just as alcoholics and kleptos should. |
Khim User ID: 1021731 United States 03/31/2011 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are far more pressing issues facing our nation and the world that need to be addressed. This divisive issue is a ridiculous interruption and only a symptom of far deeper problems that must be addressed - first. Quoting: KhimOnce your house is in order it is easier to see the dust. I frankly don't give a shit who sleeps with who. It's not my job to dictate morality nor enforce it. That job belongs to God. So instead of forcing your agenda, perhaps you should follow Christ's example which is to lead by example instead of anger. It really shouldn't even be an issue at all, it's religion that has made it as such, to divide us further from each other than we already are. I completely agree with you, ajk. Last Edited by Khim on 03/31/2011 06:03 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 688990 United Kingdom 03/31/2011 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 688990Well all i can say is you're esily upset. Worry about more important things in the world that actually matter. Is that so hard? As opposed to...what you're concerned about? Which is putting up posts denegrating straight people? It's called a culture war, stupid. Trying to take down my argument by saying it's stupid to argue against the very issue you're arguing about... Fine. There are more important things in the world. So how about both sides shut up about it, then? Oh that's right, the PC bullshit in society since the 90's demanded that, and now you can't go 5 minutes without some gay person screaming about some mythical "rights", which when dissected actually means "We need everyone to love all things gay, and worship us for how amazing we are!" You stop arguing, I'll stop arguing. After all, it's totally a stupid, inconsequential issue, right? This is a thread started by a gay basher and all i was doing was defending who i am. Don't i have that right? You sure do. But why waste your time? Worry about more important things going on in the world, that matter. Is that so hard? Touche. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 688990 United Kingdom 03/31/2011 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 688990people are gay not by their own choice and sex between two consenting adults cannot be compared with the other things you mentioned. Having an 'urge' and ACTING are two different things. I have urges daily that i suppress and don't ACT upon. That's the difference. But the difference is, you're asking them to basically deny how they were made to be. Would it be fair to you, for them to ask you to deny your heterosexual urges forever, because they thought they were wrong? Could you do it? If not, how is it fair to ask them to do it with theirs? They can't help who they are attracted to, as much as you can't. Well, first off there is no proof gays are born that way...although personally i believe it to be a two-fold process of predisposition through fetal chemical development, coupled with unseen forces of malevolence (demons) planting subconscious suggestions that parallel the predisposed urges. Secondly, if we think that alcoholics, or kleptomaniacs, or any other group who practices sinful acts are born that way, should we encourage their behavior? Should we just toss in the towel and be like, "Welp, they were born to drink themselves to death, or to steal until they're imprisoned, so let's promote their lifestyle as healthy and normal cause that's the way they're born." Honestly, it is a riddle that doesn't seem to have an easy answer. Maybe a gay person that stays celibate holds a high place in heaven based on their purity under heavy fire. Maybe the whole 'born that way' is a crock of shit. No one knows for sure yet. But i do know that a person can't choose to be attracted to the same sex. It has to be some sort of predisposition through fetal development, or another psychological factor of some sort. But what i do know and believe is that gay sex is vile and nasty, and one who has the urge to practice it should try their best to abstain....just as alcoholics and kleptos should. I'm gay and knew i was attracted to the same sex long before adolescence and that's the case for most gay people. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1321807 Netherlands 03/31/2011 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah I am gay. do I have to Support gay rights to be gay? do I have to want to included homosexuaity in a childs schooling to be gay? DO I have to agree with every gay person to be gay? Quoting: Reptillian OverlordYou must like to be seen as subhuman and treated like the ones who are a abomination to our whole planet and humanity by people who accept Jezus but don't really listen to him. What is it, you are religious too and are ashamed of being gay? You think the ones making simple judgements without knowing anything about you are right? Well, I don't actually care. I'm sure there a woman in undeveloped countries that also think their husband and male society in general is right in treating her like something lower than an animal or pig. |
ajk User ID: 1114631 United States 03/31/2011 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 688990people are gay not by their own choice and sex between two consenting adults cannot be compared with the other things you mentioned. Having an 'urge' and ACTING are two different things. I have urges daily that i suppress and don't ACT upon. That's the difference. But the difference is, you're asking them to basically deny how they were made to be. Would it be fair to you, for them to ask you to deny your heterosexual urges forever, because they thought they were wrong? Could you do it? If not, how is it fair to ask them to do it with theirs? They can't help who they are attracted to, as much as you can't. Well, first off there is no proof gays are born that way...although personally i believe it to be a two-fold process of predisposition through fetal chemical development, coupled with unseen forces of malevolence (demons) planting subconscious suggestions that parallel the predisposed urges. Secondly, if we think that alcoholics, or kleptomaniacs, or any other group who practices sinful acts are born that way, should we encourage their behavior? Should we just toss in the towel and be like, "Welp, they were born to drink themselves to death, or to steal until they're imprisoned, so let's promote their lifestyle as healthy and normal cause that's the way they're born." Honestly, it is a riddle that doesn't seem to have an easy answer. Maybe a gay person that stays celibate holds a high place in heaven based on their purity under heavy fire. Maybe the whole 'born that way' is a crock of shit. No one knows for sure yet. But i do know that a person can't choose to be attracted to the same sex. It has to be some sort of predisposition through fetal development, or another psychological factor of some sort. But what i do know and believe is that gay sex is vile and nasty, and one who has the urge to practice it should try their best to abstain....just as alcoholics and kleptos should. How can you compare something that is done between consenting adults, to stuff like that? They cannot be any more different. Heavy drinking, and stealing have obvious effects, inwardly and outwardly. The consequences of such behavior can be clearly seen. How is gay sex, anything like those things? I cannot stand such extreme arguments that always come up in regards to this topic. They have nothing to do with homosexuality, nothing. Now, could it be argued that having a lot of gay sex with different people can be destructive to the person? Yes, but the same could be said for straight people having sex in much the same way. If one is being responsible with this desire, and does it with someone whom they love, I fail to see how destructive it is regardless of what any book or religion says about it. God is not gonna punish someone for using a desire given to them to give and show love to someone else. It just isn't gonna happen, it wouldn't make a damn bit of sense. Last Edited by ajk on 03/31/2011 06:16 PM No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds. Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God. If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government "Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn "This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll "If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 664728 New Zealand 03/31/2011 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am tired of them forcing their agenda on us , I visit Provincetown Ma . A few times a year and that os the San Fran of the east coast. I am just sick and tired of them suing for the right to be in every parade and marriage and forcing it into the schools for debate and teaching elementary school kids it is natural. Quoting: GodsontooI don't agree with the suing part, but it should be taught to elementary students as being natural, because it is. I had a long talk with a doctor who specializes in asses (proctologist) and he said it is NOT natural. He said the damage to the human body is immense as the body was "not designed for such things" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1291146 United States 03/31/2011 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah I am gay. do I have to Support gay rights to be gay? do I have to want to included homosexuaity in a childs schooling to be gay? DO I have to agree with every gay person to be gay? Quoting: Reptillian OverlordYou must like to be seen as subhuman and treated like the ones who are a abomination to our whole planet and humanity by people who accept Jezus but don't really listen to him. What is it, you are religious too and are ashamed of being gay? You think the ones making simple judgements without knowing anything about you are right? Well, I don't actually care. I'm sure there a woman in undeveloped countries that also think their husband and male society in general is right in treating her like something lower than an animal or pig. Good Job at being a tard. |
Dundas User ID: 1318343 United States 03/31/2011 06:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: DundasHaving an 'urge' and ACTING are two different things. I have urges daily that i suppress and don't ACT upon. That's the difference. But the difference is, you're asking them to basically deny how they were made to be. Would it be fair to you, for them to ask you to deny your heterosexual urges forever, because they thought they were wrong? Could you do it? If not, how is it fair to ask them to do it with theirs? They can't help who they are attracted to, as much as you can't. Well, first off there is no proof gays are born that way...although personally i believe it to be a two-fold process of predisposition through fetal chemical development, coupled with unseen forces of malevolence (demons) planting subconscious suggestions that parallel the predisposed urges. Secondly, if we think that alcoholics, or kleptomaniacs, or any other group who practices sinful acts are born that way, should we encourage their behavior? Should we just toss in the towel and be like, "Welp, they were born to drink themselves to death, or to steal until they're imprisoned, so let's promote their lifestyle as healthy and normal cause that's the way they're born." Honestly, it is a riddle that doesn't seem to have an easy answer. Maybe a gay person that stays celibate holds a high place in heaven based on their purity under heavy fire. Maybe the whole 'born that way' is a crock of shit. No one knows for sure yet. But i do know that a person can't choose to be attracted to the same sex. It has to be some sort of predisposition through fetal development, or another psychological factor of some sort. But what i do know and believe is that gay sex is vile and nasty, and one who has the urge to practice it should try their best to abstain....just as alcoholics and kleptos should. How can you compare something that is done between consenting adults, to stuff like that? They cannot be any more different. Heavy drinking, and stealing have obvious effects, inwardly and outwardly. The consequences of such behavior can be clearly seen. How is gay sex, anything like those things? I cannot stand such extreme arguments that always come up in regards to this topic. They have nothing to do with homosexuality, nothing. Now, could it be argued that having a lot of gay sex with different people can be destructive to the person? Yes, but the same could be said for straight people having sex in much the same way. If one is being responsible with this desire, and does it with someone whom they love, I fail to see how destructive it is regardless of what any book or religion says about it. God is not gonna punish someone for using a desire given to them to give and show love to someone else. It just isn't gonna happen, it wouldn't make a damn bit of sense. You must have missed my post about gays who engage in gay sex as being the perpetrators AND victims. They are polluting themselves inwardly by their vile acts. The scriptures plainly show gay sex as sinful and vile. Anyway, i'm out. I'll leave you with some of the last words Christ spoke concerning His return and the judgment...."Let him who is filthy, be filthy still...behold, i come quickly, and my reward is with me to repay each according to their works." This includes me, who watches porn online every now and then even though i shouldn't, and the gay man who bends over every now and then who shouldn't. |
Godsontoo (OP) User ID: 1258525 United States 03/31/2011 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No i actually don't. I hate his acts of vile gay sex, but just as i hate vile acts of pornography.......or any other sin for that matter. Including the ones i commit daily myself. Quoting: DundasAccepting the sin of gay sex as normal isn't the answer- just as accepting the sin of stealing, murder, adultery, etc., as normal isn't the answer. Adultery and gay stuff is later added to the word of god by conservative idiots who never have sex without the lights of. Victorian times with their stupid victorian morals. The real sins include a victim. Actually Gods laws are at the beginning of the bible , and most certainly are not an after thought . A Psalm of David. The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want. He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters. He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake. Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me. Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over. Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever. †. |
ajk User ID: 1114631 United States 03/31/2011 06:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ajkBut the difference is, you're asking them to basically deny how they were made to be. Would it be fair to you, for them to ask you to deny your heterosexual urges forever, because they thought they were wrong? Could you do it? If not, how is it fair to ask them to do it with theirs? They can't help who they are attracted to, as much as you can't. Well, first off there is no proof gays are born that way...although personally i believe it to be a two-fold process of predisposition through fetal chemical development, coupled with unseen forces of malevolence (demons) planting subconscious suggestions that parallel the predisposed urges. Secondly, if we think that alcoholics, or kleptomaniacs, or any other group who practices sinful acts are born that way, should we encourage their behavior? Should we just toss in the towel and be like, "Welp, they were born to drink themselves to death, or to steal until they're imprisoned, so let's promote their lifestyle as healthy and normal cause that's the way they're born." Honestly, it is a riddle that doesn't seem to have an easy answer. Maybe a gay person that stays celibate holds a high place in heaven based on their purity under heavy fire. Maybe the whole 'born that way' is a crock of shit. No one knows for sure yet. But i do know that a person can't choose to be attracted to the same sex. It has to be some sort of predisposition through fetal development, or another psychological factor of some sort. But what i do know and believe is that gay sex is vile and nasty, and one who has the urge to practice it should try their best to abstain....just as alcoholics and kleptos should. How can you compare something that is done between consenting adults, to stuff like that? They cannot be any more different. Heavy drinking, and stealing have obvious effects, inwardly and outwardly. The consequences of such behavior can be clearly seen. How is gay sex, anything like those things? I cannot stand such extreme arguments that always come up in regards to this topic. They have nothing to do with homosexuality, nothing. Now, could it be argued that having a lot of gay sex with different people can be destructive to the person? Yes, but the same could be said for straight people having sex in much the same way. If one is being responsible with this desire, and does it with someone whom they love, I fail to see how destructive it is regardless of what any book or religion says about it. God is not gonna punish someone for using a desire given to them to give and show love to someone else. It just isn't gonna happen, it wouldn't make a damn bit of sense. You must have missed my post about gays who engage in gay sex as being the perpetrators AND victims. They are polluting themselves inwardly by their vile acts. The scriptures plainly show gay sex as sinful and vile. I don't care what the book says, it cannot and does not speak for God. Until one can learn to think outside of the book, one is not truly thinking their own thoughts. You think you are, but you're really not. Last Edited by ajk on 03/31/2011 06:30 PM No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds. Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God. If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government "Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn "This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll "If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy." |