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Radioactive Iodine-131 in rainwater sample near San Francisco was 18,100% above Feds drinking water standard

 
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Let's go barding on the radioactive glaciers yo dude.
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Rain Water Sample 1 Results

Collection Start: 3/17, 6 pm
Collection Stop: 3/18, 12 pm
Sample Volume: 4.75 liter
Counting Time: 50009 sec.
Energy Resolution:
1.15 keV (at 364 keV)
2 keV (at 1461 keV)




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There are two charts on the page that spike in Iodine=131.....

I couldn't copy/paste them..

Here are numbers and emails though
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Whomever gets an answer from Berkeley about their BS comparing iodine 131 in rainwater to airplanes post it here.
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During the cold war, all through the 1970's and 1980's they tested a nuke in the Nevada desert every other week. We aren't we all dead from that.
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Didn't The Duke die of cancer from fallout while filming a western in Nevada? I don't have a link to post but "John Wayne cancer" will get you quite a few links. Unless he got cancer because he was a closet gay......
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They were FILMING a Western and the military failed to notify them of testing being done. Other crew members came down with cancer. Apparently they were down wind of it.
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We are being hit hard nation wide (with mox/plutonium isotopes) and the end result is that everything will become considerably more radioactive than it already is…...and the worse is yet to come...esp. if the cores ‘blow’…

We don't know exactly how much longer it will take (to start killing us), but it's obviously over, there is no stopping it and there is already NO safe food, water, ...or AIR anywhere in the northern hemisphere.

..All that's left now is for Armageddon to kick off, so that Elenin can put the icing on the cake…


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Usually cities use groundwater that has been naturally filtered for years. Then it goes to a processing plant with reverse osmosis and fancy pants filters.

Then to your tap. It's not rainwater!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1300506

The Hetch Hetchy watershed, an area located in Yosemite National Park, provides approximately 85% of San Francisco's total water needs. Spring snowmelt runs down the Tuolumne River and fills Hetch Hetchy, the largest reservoir in the SFPUC system. This surface water in the Hetch Hetchy Reservoir is treated, but not filtered because it is of such high quality

[link to sfwater.org]
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Do brita filters take out radiation?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1264444


does a water distiller take out radiation?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1264444


Brita filters do next to nothing.PUR filters do take out a decent amount.A distiller will take out cesium and other heavy elements,but since it is a pressure system the iodine moves over with the water.

The best is a reverse osmosis filter.Lacking that I would use the PUR filter.
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this is horrible. how long until people who live in or near SF start experiencing symptoms of this and what to look for?
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reminds me of fallout3 FEV virus
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Glowing urine is perfectly normal.
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this is horrible. how long until people who live in or near SF start experiencing symptoms of this and what to look for?
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It will show up in children first for sure(infants especially),by the time any symptoms actually show it is already to late.

Take precautions now.If you do not you have no one else to blame.
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200 tons of water are being dumped on the reactors every day. We all know its becoming radioactive and flowing into the air and sea. You CANNOT encase almost 400 tons of molten radio-active material in reactors in concrete in its present state. The massive heat build up inside the concrete containment shell would produce a cataclismic explosion (see chernobyl youtube-corium leaching into water theory-they said Europe would have become a wasteland from the neuclear explosion). Bombing the reactors is even worse, if thats possible (radio-active fallout driven miles high into the atmosphere to be driven by jet-stream winds). I hate to say it, but I have been giving my wife and kids big hugs lately - (I have not told them of my fears), because I truely believe, that as this plays out over the next months (yes, this catastrophe will take months, if not years to play out), this is going to change their hopes and dreams forever. I dont care about myself. I am old and done. Tragicaly, we as a world may have failed to protect our most precious asset, our children.
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Well said
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this is horrible. how long until people who live in or near SF start experiencing symptoms of this and what to look for?
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It will never be made public.

"Cause of death" Flu. etc
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200 tons of water are being dumped on the reactors every day. We all know its becoming radioactive and flowing into the air and sea. You CANNOT encase almost 400 tons of molten radio-active material in reactors in concrete in its present state. The massive heat build up inside the concrete containment shell would produce a cataclismic explosion (see chernobyl youtube-corium leaching into water theory-they said Europe would have become a wasteland from the neuclear explosion). Bombing the reactors is even worse, if thats possible (radio-active fallout driven miles high into the atmosphere to be driven by jet-stream winds). I hate to say it, but I have been giving my wife and kids big hugs lately - (I have not told them of my fears), because I truely believe, that as this plays out over the next months (yes, this catastrophe will take months, if not years to play out), this is going to change their hopes and dreams forever. I dont care about myself. I am old and done. Tragicaly, we as a world may have failed to protect our most precious asset, our children.
 Quoting: frogs


Thank you for that honesty. I am with you and understand your fear even without the knowledge you have.

I was reading a zerohedge post and they plan to try to us this prior to encasement...

I just wanted to respond in case you hadn't heard of this plan...

Burba is a resin they plan to seal the gamma/beta emitters from water before they backfill with sand/equal glass and concrete.
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this is horrible. how long until people who live in or near SF start experiencing symptoms of this and what to look for?
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If one molecule of plutonium enters your body, you will die.abduct Breathing, eating, drinking, everything...it's the new lottery...nuke

Sick and old people in nursing homes/hospitals will be the first to go...angryfaceweirdonorespect

Look for the size of obituary collumns to grow incredibly larger..skull_fing
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During the cold war, all through the 1970's and 1980's they tested a nuke in the Nevada desert every other week. We aren't we all dead from that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1322708


The amount of material is the reason.You realize every nuclear test ever done was roughly 6000 megatons.1-2 KG of plutonium =a megaton.

• Reactor No. 1: 50 tons of nuclear fuel
• Reactor No. 2: 81 tons
• Reactor No. 3: 88 tons
• Reactor No. 4: 135 tons
• Reactor No. 5: 142 tons
• Reactor No. 6: 151 tons
• Also, a separate ground-level fuel pool contains 1,097 tons of fuel; and some 70 tons of nuclear materials are kept on the grounds in dry storage.

Source* [link to www.scientificamerican.com]

or roughly 1,814,000 megatons worth divide by 1/4 to get actual megatons of pure plutonium and you get 453,500 or 75 times the megatons of every nuclear explosion on the planet.
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this is horrible. how long until people who live in or near SF start experiencing symptoms of this and what to look for?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1322940



If one molecule of plutonium enters your body, you will die.abduct Breathing, eating, drinking, everything...it's the new lottery...nuke

Sick and old people in nursing homes/hospitals will be the first to go...angryfaceweirdonorespect

Look for the size of obituary collumns to grow incredibly larger..skull_fing
 Quoting: izzy 1262893


Plutonium is a local problem for the japanese not the US or anywhere else.

The less dangerous less long lasting iodine and caesium might be until they seal this thing.
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200 tons of water are being dumped on the reactors every day. We all know its becoming radioactive and flowing into the air and sea. You CANNOT encase almost 400 tons of molten radio-active material in reactors in concrete in its present state. The massive heat build up inside the concrete containment shell would produce a cataclismic explosion (see chernobyl youtube-corium leaching into water theory-they said Europe would have become a wasteland from the neuclear explosion). Bombing the reactors is even worse, if thats possible (radio-active fallout driven miles high into the atmosphere to be driven by jet-stream winds). I hate to say it, but I have been giving my wife and kids big hugs lately - (I have not told them of my fears), because I truely believe, that as this plays out over the next months (yes, this catastrophe will take months, if not years to play out), this is going to change their hopes and dreams forever. I dont care about myself. I am old and done. Tragicaly, we as a world may have failed to protect our most precious asset, our children.
 Quoting: frogs


Thank you for that honesty. I am with you and understand your fear even without the knowledge you have.

I was reading a zerohedge post and they plan to try to us this prior to encasement...

I just wanted to respond in case you hadn't heard of this plan...

Burba is a resin they plan to seal the gamma/beta emitters from water before they backfill with sand/equal glass and concrete.

 Quoting: allisa4757


Here is the patent information on the resin they plan to use.Wonder if they realize that it is flammable...maybe they just just napalm it...would probably do at much good.
[link to www.patentstorm.us]
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this is horrible. how long until people who live in or near SF start experiencing symptoms of this and what to look for?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1322940



If one molecule of plutonium enters your body, you will die.abduct Breathing, eating, drinking, everything...it's the new lottery...nuke

Sick and old people in nursing homes/hospitals will be the first to go...angryfaceweirdonorespect

Look for the size of obituary collumns to grow incredibly larger..skull_fing
 Quoting: izzy 1262893


Plutonium is a local problem for the japanese not the US or anywhere else.

The less dangerous less long lasting iodine and caesium might be until they seal this thing.
 Quoting: The Twelfth Imam


how do you figure plutonium is less dangerous?It has a smaller particle size than cesium(by 5 times roughly 1 nano meter)when in vapor form(ie boiling such as is happening in the reactors now).IE It will spread further and easier than the cesium.
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From San Francisco Area - Distilled water and NO more milk products from now on. I hope to God the produce is OK.
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Produce that has been kept inside is safe. May wanna stock up and freeze as much as you can before the situation gets worse.
The opposition had the last two millennia mostly to themselves. Now it's our turn.
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It's rainwater, not tap water.
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Yeah, and I'm sure the rain's been being scrupulously careful to avoid all the open reservoirs that transport water around California. Whew.
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cover them with tarps.
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HA!
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[link to www.nuc.berkeley.edu]

For example, in the rain water we collected in 18 hours between March 17 and March 18 we observe an activity of the isotope of I-131 (Iodine-131) of 4.26 Bq/l. At this level, you would need to drink 632 liters of this rain water to obtain the same radiation effects you obtain on a round-trip flight between San Francisco and Washington D.C. Therefore, the increase in radiation levels in the rain water due to the events in Japan remain extremely small.

wtf
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Was just talking to a co worker about those nuke test who's Grandfather has a 10,000 acre ranch in the area. A lot of those people living in southern Utah who were down wind died of cancer. Families from what I was told received $75,000. from the Govt because of the cancer deaths.
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If these results are valid and reliable why isn't there a water restriction?
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It's rainwater, not tap water.

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Where do you think the majority of tap water comes from
, shit-for-brains??!


It's sad to see the DISINFORMATION you demons will shill, just to stuff more Money in their Greedy, little pockets.





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Do brita filters take out radiation?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1264444


does a water distiller take out radiation?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1264444


Brita filters do next to nothing.PUR filters do take out a decent amount.A distiller will take out cesium and other heavy elements,but since it is a pressure system the iodine moves over with the water.

The best is a reverse osmosis filter.Lacking that I would use the PUR filter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1220192



This is not true.

Brita is activated carbon filter. Unless you can point to scientific DATA to prove otherwise, that PUR is superior, then this is just opinion and has no merit.

The bottom line is that an activated charcoal/carbon filter or reverse osmosis will help considerably. But there are issues with RO as well as it creates super acidic water.... but if it's a toss up, I would take acidic over radiated.
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I'm across the Bay from Berkeley and my little geiger counter isn't picking up anything unusual.

Know what, people, we're getting KCUF'd by both ends of the spectrum ... those who try to tell us "It's less than an X-ray" as well as those who scream "It's 1000% the normal!"

When is someone official going to start telling the truth here? Obama is a huge disappointment. In times of fear and uncertainty, Presidents have a role to play ... and it's not filling out your bracket.
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Distilled water tends to be acidic and can only be recommended as a way of drawing poisons out of the body. Once this is accomplished, the continued drinking of distilled water is a bad idea.

Water filtered through reverse osmosis tends to be neutral and is acceptable for regular use provided minerals are supplemented.

Water filtered through a solid charcoal filter is slightly alkaline. Ozonation of this charcoal filtered water is ideal for daily drinking. Longevity is associated with the regular consumption of hard water (high in minerals). Disease and early death is more likely to be seen with the long term drinking of distilled water.

Avoid it except in special circumstances.

Zoltan P. Rona MD MSc

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this is horrible. how long until people who live in or near SF start experiencing symptoms of this and what to look for?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1322940


It will show up in children first for sure(infants especially),by the time any symptoms actually show it is already to late.

Take precautions now.If you do not you have no one else to blame.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1220192


What precautions do you recommend?
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From San Francisco Area - Distilled water and NO more milk products from now on. I hope to God the produce is OK.
 Quoting: justanotherguy


Produce that has been kept inside is safe. May wanna stock up and freeze as much as you can before the situation gets worse.
 Quoting: Eleanor


Yeah - true - but - realistically - I can only stock up on so many veggies - then what?
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 Quoting: Da Cat II


I'm across the Bay from Berkeley and my little geiger counter isn't picking up anything unusual.

Know what, people, we're getting KCUF'd by both ends of the spectrum ... those who try to tell us "It's less than an X-ray" as well as those who scream "It's 1000% the normal!"

When is someone official going to start telling the truth here? Obama is a huge disappointment. In times of fear and uncertainty, Presidents have a role to play ... and it's not filling out your bracket.
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Thanks for the feed back!
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this is horrible. how long until people who live in or near SF start experiencing symptoms of this and what to look for?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1322940


It will never be made public.

"Cause of death" Flu. etc
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 932005


I live right across the Bay from Berkeley, and 30 miles south of SF, and I have a handheld geiger counter that's not showing anything.

Go to the UC Berkeley web site and you'll see they think it's no big deal.

[link to www.nuc.berkeley.edu]

They claim you'd have to drink 632 liters of water at 4 bequerel per liter, to get as much radiation as you get in one cross-country airplane flight. At 20 bequerel per liter then (the peak observed 3/25/2011) you'd have to drink about 126 liters of that water to get airplane dose.

Now that is one stupid-ass way to present the numbers, but that's what the elites at Berkeley have chosen to do, and if you believe them then this is indeed a small amount of radiation.

Now we have someone else coming out and saying it's 18000% above the safe level? Don't know about you folks but I'm tire of being the yoyo of all these competing interests.

Where is someone in authority who can tell us the truth? Governor Brown perhaps? President Obama maybe? Are they too busy digging their shelters to pay attention or what?

I'm getting angry!

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