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Debauchery User ID: 1201998 United States 03/31/2011 11:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know that the boys should be taken out of their homes. Children that rape and murder tend to have a screw loose period. Serial killers/murderers and so on once captured have often confessed to bizarre and criminal behavior in childhood..doesn't mean their parents raised them improperly. Some people are just wired to be sickos from the start. Not that these kids are, we don't know yet what the issue is. Perhaps they were raped at home or abused in some other way..either way they need to be kept from other children and for a very long time. I don't even know how you would punish children that young for rape, they don't grasp things the way an adult would. Last Edited by Debauchery on 03/31/2011 11:26 PM And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it. I am an evil giraffe, and I shall eat more leaves from this tree than perhaps I should, so that other giraffes may die. |
ClaytonB (OP) User ID: 1192046 United States 03/31/2011 11:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know that the boys should be taken out of their homes. Quoting: DebaucheryChildren that rape and murder tend to have a screw loose period. Serial killers/murderers and so on once captured have often confessed to bizarre and criminal behavior in childhood..doesn't mean their parents raised them improperly. Some people are just wired to be sickos from the start. Not that these kids are, we don't know yet what the issue is. Perhaps they were raped at home or abused in some other way..either way they need to be kept from other children and for a very long time. I don't even know how you would punish children that young for rape, they don't grasp things the way an adult would. And then there's just the possibility that while they certainly knew it was wrong (why else would they hide while doing it?), maybe they didn't understand why it was wrong beyond that they'd get in trouble if they got caught. Sex is a pretty abstract thing to pre-pubescent kids or at least it was to me when I was that age. Clayton - 1st Law of Tyranny: Dictators come and go. The people never die. - Anon The real truth that dare not speak itself is that no one is in control [of the world], absolutely no one. Now there may be entities seeking control; the World Bank, the Communist Party, the rich... But to seek control is to take enormous aggravation upon yourself because this process that is underway will take the control freak by the short and curlies and throw them against the wall. - Terence McKenna Nature has a certain order. The ants pick the food, the ants KEEP the food and the grasshoppers leave! - Princess Atta That government is best which governs not at all; and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have. - Henry David Thoreau |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1317855 United States 04/01/2011 12:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | boys need serious treatment Quoting: Anonymous Coward 664728someone needs to be punished for them knowing this kind of stuff---I am guessing they are victims themselves of some kind find the adult who started this chain of abuse and punish them that is why they want to take them from their homes. the adult who may have taught them this may be in the home. maybe their own parent. happens more than we would like to admit. and could the boys have gotten ahold of dirty movies or the internet. that is also a possibility these days. anyway, the truth has to be found out and it won't be pleasant. |
UcDat User ID: 1303675 Canada 04/01/2011 12:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "her attackers were just boys -- 7- and 9-year-old boys" If it was my boys Id want them to get some help maybe not jail but some kind of serious physiological help. I'd also expect them to examine every aspect of our lives both me and my wife to make sure we had not done anything to provoke it... Last Edited by UcDat on 04/01/2011 12:09 AM 'Whence do you come, slayer of men, or where are you going, conqueror of space?' The soul answered and said, 'What binds me has been slain, and what surrounds me has been overcome, and my desire has been ended, and ignorance has died. In a [world] I was released from a world, [and] in a type from a heavenly type, and (from) the fetter of oblivion which is transient. From this time on will I attain to the rest of the time, of the season, of the aeon, in silence.' |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1323014 United States 04/01/2011 12:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "her attackers were just boys -- 7- and 9-year-old boys" Quoting: UcDatIf it was my boys Id want them to get some help maybe not jail but some kind of serious physiological help. I'd also expect them to examine every aspect of our lives both me and my wife to make sure we had not done anything to provoke it... fuck those white savages send em to jail |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1322453 United States 04/01/2011 12:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Clearly, it would be dependent upon the attitude of the children that carried out the assault. Unfortunately common sense and logic are in very short supply especially in the legal system. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1311567 United States 04/01/2011 12:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I aint touching this shit. Quoting: bbristoweI'll touch it. Assuming the story is real.... The little bastards should be executed - along with their parents. Problem solved. They won't be hurting anyone else ever again and their parents won't be able to produce any more future criminals. |
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UcDat User ID: 1303675 Canada 04/01/2011 01:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "her attackers were just boys -- 7- and 9-year-old boys" Quoting: UcDatIf it was my boys Id want them to get some help maybe not jail but some kind of serious physiological help. I'd also expect them to examine every aspect of our lives both me and my wife to make sure we had not done anything to provoke it... fuck those white savages send em to jail ya i can see your point and can only imagine what the victim and her family must feel. Still their kids locked up or not they need help... 'Whence do you come, slayer of men, or where are you going, conqueror of space?' The soul answered and said, 'What binds me has been slain, and what surrounds me has been overcome, and my desire has been ended, and ignorance has died. In a [world] I was released from a world, [and] in a type from a heavenly type, and (from) the fetter of oblivion which is transient. From this time on will I attain to the rest of the time, of the season, of the aeon, in silence.' |
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Debauchery User ID: 1201998 United States 04/01/2011 01:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I notice people making excuses for evil... I don't care how old they are...if they perform this level of evil, then no amount of playing "devil's advocate" can work... I say euthanize'em. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 973795I agree in general but I'd love to know what, if anything, was going on at home with the parents. Are the children inherently evil or have they been taught this by way of sexual abuse or parents that are lax in discipline? I'm curious to see how it plays out. I do think in most cases the kids that are out there raping other kids, murdering them, torturing them..are just rotten to the core evil. Like I mentioned earlier, you hear the stories from the rapists/cannibals/serial killers how they used to do horrific things as early as 5-6 years old. I go back to when I was that age, I knew right from wrong on that level..I knew you didn't hurt people, I knew you didn't put your hands on others, sexually or otherwise, it's just something I would expect any parent to teach their children at a very, very early age. And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it. I am an evil giraffe, and I shall eat more leaves from this tree than perhaps I should, so that other giraffes may die. |
bolisking User ID: 1287750 United States 04/01/2011 01:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THERE IS N CURE OR TREATMENT FOR THESE CRIMINALLY INSANE 'KIDS'. ALL PERSONS WHO TOUCH A CHILD IN ANY SEXUAL WAY THAT CAN BE INDEPENDENTLY PROVEN AND THERE ARE WITNESS' SHOULD BE EXECUTED. THE REPEAT OFFENSE RATE OF THESE TYPES OF CRIMES IS OVER 90%. YES, EXECUTED! THEY ARE LIVING EVIL The questions we ask today? WE will have the answer tomorrow!! |
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Bluebird User ID: 730536 United States 04/01/2011 01:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I notice people making excuses for evil... I don't care how old they are...if they perform this level of evil, then no amount of playing "devil's advocate" can work... I say euthanize'em. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 973795I am totally amazed that some are trying to justify these little bastards. Agree--put them down like the animals they are. Although I don't know of any animals who behave this way--just a figure of speech as these little fucks are below animals. One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway. Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy |
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Debauchery User ID: 1201998 United States 04/01/2011 01:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know that the boys should be taken out of their homes. Quoting: DebaucheryChildren that rape and murder tend to have a screw loose period. Serial killers/murderers and so on once captured have often confessed to bizarre and criminal behavior in childhood..doesn't mean their parents raised them improperly. Some people are just wired to be sickos from the start. Not that these kids are, we don't know yet what the issue is. Perhaps they were raped at home or abused in some other way..either way they need to be kept from other children and for a very long time. I don't even know how you would punish children that young for rape, they don't grasp things the way an adult would. And then there's just the possibility that while they certainly knew it was wrong (why else would they hide while doing it?), maybe they didn't understand why it was wrong beyond that they'd get in trouble if they got caught. Sex is a pretty abstract thing to pre-pubescent kids or at least it was to me when I was that age. Clayton - Children know..in my opinion, why it's wrong. I have a 5 year old and he was always uptight years ago when bathing him or changing his diaper, it was a task cleaning him as he knew no one was to go around that area. He's aware it's personal and private and not to be touched. Point being children know you don't touch (much less rape) other people in certain areas, they don't feel comfortable with it themselves (being touched) even outside of sexual touching I mean, they just know somewhere inside of their little heads that those parts are different from everything else on their bodies. I cannot for the life of me believe someone that age doesn't understand why it's wrong. Sex or touching anywhere near there, same thing, they know you don't do it. We tell our kids this, they hear it in school and on tv. They understand why it's wrong, I truly believe that. Last Edited by Debauchery on 04/01/2011 01:35 AM And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it. I am an evil giraffe, and I shall eat more leaves from this tree than perhaps I should, so that other giraffes may die. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1322173 United States 04/01/2011 01:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was molested by my step brother for years. It started when I was 7 and he was 10. I didn't really know what sex was but I knew what he was doing was wrong and that I didn't like it. I grew up and really never thought to try and press charges, after all, he was underage the whole time it was happening too. He just got out of jail for molesting his own daughter. She took him to court, they gave him a slap on the wrist. Moral of the story...these types can't be rehabilitated and are inherently evil! |
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ClaytonB (OP) User ID: 1192046 United States 04/01/2011 01:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "her attackers were just boys -- 7- and 9-year-old boys" Quoting: UcDatIf it was my boys Id want them to get some help maybe not jail but some kind of serious physiological help. I'd also expect them to examine every aspect of our lives both me and my wife to make sure we had not done anything to provoke it... Yeah, that's fucking brilliant, have the government put a magnifying glass up your ass as if that proves your innocence. The government doesn't care about children. The government is not a neutral party in parental custody issues. We need to get the government out of the family law business and put it back in the hands of family and community where it was until 50 years ago... Clayton - 1st Law of Tyranny: Dictators come and go. The people never die. - Anon The real truth that dare not speak itself is that no one is in control [of the world], absolutely no one. Now there may be entities seeking control; the World Bank, the Communist Party, the rich... But to seek control is to take enormous aggravation upon yourself because this process that is underway will take the control freak by the short and curlies and throw them against the wall. - Terence McKenna Nature has a certain order. The ants pick the food, the ants KEEP the food and the grasshoppers leave! - Princess Atta That government is best which governs not at all; and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have. - Henry David Thoreau |