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| Emperor Kenton
8/22/2005 6:23 PM
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| Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:08 AM | | Re: Clever tactic, Jackboot Fascists, you have just radicalized another generation | Quote |
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| Emperor Kenton
12/8/2005 10:08 AM
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No surprise Utah is the NWO testing ground--a whole local-yokel population hypnotized toward authority...
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| Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:08 AM | | Re: Clever tactic, Jackboot Fascists, you have just radicalized another generation | Quote |
Itīll be interesting to see if the kids are as dumbed-down as their parents.
I bet they are and this blows over quickly.
Sad. |
| Kissmyass
12/8/2005 10:08 AM
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Agreed, throwbacks have radicalized them young, formative minds into convoluted, libbie polluted, thugobots. So what? What has your generation done to improve this world Kenton? They let the space program fall apart, left us vulnerable to terrorists, and have espoused their loathing for individuality. Just more sheep dip from the main drip.
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| Emperor Kenton
12/8/2005 10:08 AM
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NOTE: this exercise was not for god and state and church.
Rather this stunt was a NWO experiment on behalf of Rothy, Rocky and....Bushwinkle.
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| Emperor Kenton
12/8/2005 10:08 AM
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[link to utrave.org]
Last night at 10:00 PM I arrived at a party in the Spanish Fork canyon. I was excited to be there to listen to the great electronic artists that had traveled for to play for the crowd.
Before coming to the event I researched it extensively. The party was %100 percent legal and legit with all permits and necessary security required by law being acquired. The event was well organized, with garbage cans, porta potties, and rope lines blocking off parts of the area that you could no go into.
Now I want you to know that many people out there consider ravers a bunch of drug taking freaks. I also want you to know that that is a stereotype that is passed down through legions of undereducated parents, politicians, and media. There are many of us who are drug free party goers who attend these events for a pure love of the music.
So on to my point. At around 11:00 I was enjoying the good vibes and great music. Then at about 11:30 pm a helicopter began circling the party. Out of nowhere huge semis filled with national guard, swat, and the police rolled up. Soldiers came out of the bushes and rushed down to the party. Carrying M-16s, Ak-47s, nightsticks, and tazers. They proceeded to attack random people and push their might around on people who had done nothing wrong.
I saw about 7 people attacked (before being forced to leave). I saw two of them right in front of me. One was a guy who was walking around with a camcorder stunned at what was happening. A soldier told him to give him the camera now. The raver said no it is my camera. The soldier then proceeded to grab the camera, throw it to the ground and then began beating the kid. In the end they threw him to the ground violently an put their knee into his back while handcuffing him. All for wanting to keep his property. When I last saw him he was knocked out and unmoving.
Another girl next to me said to one of the soldiers that she didnīt know how to get home as they had just arrested her friend. The soldier told her to walk home. My friend tried to grab her to bring her with us, but the soldier began yelling that she had touched him (which she hadnīt). WIthin seconds, five soldiers had jumped on her and were literally beating the crap out of this innocent women. She was punched in the face, thrown to the ground, and kicked while down. All for worrying how to get home safely. She is now suing.
The soldiers proceeded to attack anyone with cameras or camcorders, obviously wanting to restrict the film that got out about it. This was not a legal attack, it was a blatant violation on our rights as American citizens. And the swat, police, politicians who authorized this, and the national guard knew this. That is why they were removing potential evidence.
We were treated as terrorists, innocent kids without weapons or even violent thoughts in their minds were manhandled, treated like terrorists, and forced to stop doing what we were by constitutional rights allowed to be doing. Our rights were completely removed from us. It was if we had visited the 1960s or communist China.
I hope for the sake of the American people that the news media does not let the lies of the government blind them to what truly happened last night. This could happen anywhere to anyone not just ravers, so AMERICA DONīT LET THIS STAND!--Rodan
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| Emperor Kenton
12/8/2005 10:08 AM
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Agreed, throwbacks have radicalized them young, formative minds into convoluted, libbie polluted, thugobots.
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This was an organized NWO military assault. The only good that might come out of it will be the children made veteran in resistance before some asshole stirs up the Draft.
The kids of the 60s were in fact patient, very patient, until the body bags back from Nam numbered in the tens of thousands...
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| Emperor Kenton
12/8/2005 10:08 AM
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From SYZE on a seattle website
Last night was one of the worst nights of my life. I am still incredibly shaken up by what happened ....enough to the point of where Iīm still having problems talking about it. So i will tell you my side in a few words then link you to a more detailed version of how Knick explains it .
I was playing in Salt Lake City about 1 hour away at a massive outdoor event. 700 presold tickets, and by 11:20, there were 1400 kids there already.... all in all total expected... 3 - 4k. This was an all drum and bass event, held on private land, with an amazing view of the mountains surrounding us. This event was fully contracted with the city. They had all permits, a huge insurance policy and they were paying taxes. you have to know this is because of what happened next. And in NO MEANS is this story exaggerated. word for word this is what happened.
It was 1145... i had 30 min before my set, so i was running around lookin at the mountains and the people dancing, laughing , the crazy visiuls they even had prjecting on the mountains. i will share photos once i can see them. All of the sudden a helicopter comes in with massive spot lights .. all on the people circling everyone ... and within minutes like out of some fuckin movie , soldiers with guns (fucking rifles )come in out of the grass, like some vietnam shit. The police in full riot gear come in, big trucks ... next thing you know they are throwing tear gas at people, setting dogs on people, arresting kids. 4 big guys on one dnb fan kicking him down tieing his hands .... making kids sit in the dirt with their hands tied all in a line, now you must remember in this whole time NO ONE was resisting arrest or making a big deal, everyone peaceful started to walk out... but yet they were throwin tear gas... it gets worst ... but whats even more fucked up is hundreds of kids on drugs driving home on the freeway while they were just in major trauma.
i still cant even figure out what the hell happened, the promoter called me to make sure me knick and spor were ok and i broke down crying.. couldnt breath, i was freaking out ..... why? Is this what our fuckin country has come to .... a point of someone making a fully legal show and STILL getting busted for WHAT?????? What did 3000 kids on private land in the mountains near NOTHIING .. do to ANYONE?
The promoters have a massive lawsuit and they have so much evidence against the county that its not even funny, I will be present to testify against these fuckin pigs. And if you think this matter is a joke then all i have to say is . I didnt belive it until i had gas thrown at me. I am going to make sure i keep you all posted on this, and let you know if theres a way any of you can help.
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| Emperor Kenton
12/8/2005 10:08 AM
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alishaīs account
Alishaīs account
This is my account of events that unfolded while attending an outdoor electronic music event. I arrived shortly before 9 pm sharp. My two friends and i set up camp and headed to the stage. All was well and peaceful enjoying the music to the full extent while dancing. Around 11:30pm or so i noticed a helicopter flying above the main stage of the event. At this point i am confused. The chopper began to come in closer to the stage with a search light focused on the crowd. I got nervous and still very confused and walked over to find my two friends I had arrived with earlier. Just as soon as i did that I looked over at my friend and asked "whats going on". That is when I was greeted by a man in full army attire, gas mask and all. He said to leave. I said what whats going on, at which point i was brutally attacked. Thrown to the ground and in the scuffle punched in the face by swat. That was not it either. I suppose i posed some a threat as another swat member rushed over to subdue me to the ground puting his knee in my back and arresting me. At that point I am screaming to a patron "whats going on?" He is just as confused as I am. At that point another swat member came over and kicked me in the leg. Let me tell you that I also only weigh 130 pounds. I had three grown men attack and beat me and throw me to ground for absolutely no reason at all. Not to mention being dragged to a van and violently being tossed in and taken to jail. Fined for resisting arrest and another outrageous charge. I do need to mention also that while this is all happening to me at the same time my two friends, a boy and girl were trying to reach out and stop them, at that point they were attacked and arrested as well.
That is my account. I have all the bruises to show. Our basic human rights were violated in a very bad way. We have to tell our story. Do all that you can and dont be afraid to speak up.
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| Emperor Kenton
12/8/2005 10:08 AM
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UPDATE: Bush visits veterans in Utah In downtown Salt Lake Cityīs Pioneer Park, between 1,000 and 2,000 anti-war protesters gathered to speak and demonstrate against the continuing fighting in Iraq.
Organizers were thrilled at the turnout and Salt Lake City Mayor Rocky Anderson called on Utahns to make the protest a turning point in national opposition to Bush policies in Iraq and on environmental issues.
"Our nation was lied into a war," said Anderson, who was booed by VFW members earlier in the day but cheered by Bush protesters in Pioneer Park.
Protest organizer Eileen McCabe-Olsen, said: "A fire has been lit."
Celeste Zappala, a co-founder of Gold Star Families, and the mother of a son killed in Baghdad, said she was amazed by the size of the anti-war demonstration in conservative Utah, which gave Bush his largest margin of victory in the past two elections.
[link to www.sltrib.com]
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| malu
12/8/2005 10:08 AM
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i agree with you one hundred precent
notice how many bush lovers are out tonight,,, what pisses me off it is my tax dollars paying their salary! damnit!
guess they know the ship is sinking,,,
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| Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:08 AM | | Re: Clever tactic, Jackboot Fascists, you have just radicalized another generation | Quote |
>>>"No surprise Utah is the NWO testing ground--a whole local-yokel population hypnotized toward authority..."<<<
I see you have never spent any time in the SLC area... |
| Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:08 AM | | Re: Clever tactic, Jackboot Fascists, you have just radicalized another generation | Quote |
the nazis would raid swing dance parties in germany... |
| Kissmyass
12/8/2005 10:08 AM
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Hey Kent, why not bring up the old riot at Stateline Idaho in 1976? They called it Norwester 76ī and they came in with several thousand cops to break that baby up. I know, I was there. No one cared then, so what make you think they are going to care now? Oh yeh, thats right, there are a couple of million new lawyers out there chomping at the bit to make a mountain out of a mole hill. Did you even contemplate that they were all on drugs as attested to by the OP?
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| Emperor Kenton
12/8/2005 10:08 AM
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Like "Ecology" is often a touchword for the sinister NWO power-trippin, so is "drugs"
We all know drugs arenīt good.. BUT here we have full military EXERCISE on a sanctioned concert--target children, just before Bush swings into town.--I think this is all about Psyops for more to come... itīs as though they want resistance as an excuse to clamp down and get massively totalitarian.
My hometown by the way...
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| Emperor Kenton
12/8/2005 10:08 AM
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I see you have never spent any time in the SLC area...
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I single-handedly ruined Utah, heh...
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| John the Baptist
12/8/2005 10:08 AM
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Thanks Emperor K for posting eyewitness reports to this.
The powers that be are getting scared, arenīt they? They must know that their time is almost up.
Itīs my hope that this event, along with Mother Sheehan, might start the ball of resistance rolling faster and faster.
In my day, "women and children first" had a totally different meaning.
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| malu
12/8/2005 10:08 AM
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gentleman,
i totally agree this was a psychological operation,, timed perfectly for bush,, i believe this has been going on around the country for a couple of years now, but this was pretty dramatic,, although beating the hell out of 70 year old war protestors was pretty pathetic,, but i see precisely the depths of their treason,,,
every action causes an equal reaction,,, the clock is ticking now
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| Emperor Kenton
12/8/2005 10:08 AM
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every action causes an equal reaction,,, the clock is ticking now
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Be careful, the Fascists have new toys now, crowd-control, etc.
Creativity needed now more than ever.
One element that needs to be addressed, telling it how it was once when we were free.
Some of these kids donīt remember being able to romp through the countryside.
Want to have a protest rally call it:
ORDINARY PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRYSIDE DOIN NUTHIN!
or bill it as a revival Meeting
Be clever...
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| Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:08 AM | | Re: Clever tactic, Jackboot Fascists, you have just radicalized another generation | Quote |
This event seems unusually large and well organized for Utah. There might be something more here than just kids attempting to have fun. |
| Emperor Kenton
12/8/2005 10:08 AM
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here is the clip from the news... [link to real.ksl.com] is a clip from someone who attended.. [link to homepage.mac.com] friend Nick was one of the musicians at the event, here is what he had to say...."Last night, I was booked to play an event about an hour outside of Salt Lake City, Utah. The hype behind this show was huge, they presold 700 tickets and they expected up to 3,000 people total. The promoters did an amazing job with the show.. they even made slipmats with the flyers on them to promote in local shops.So, we got to the show around 11:15 or so and it was really cool. It was all outdoors, in a valley surrounded by huge mountains. They had an amazing light show flashing on to a mountain behind the site, the sound was booming, the crowd was about 1500 people thick and everything just seemed too good to be true really. Well...At about 11:30 or so, I was standing behind the stage talking with someone when I noticed a helicopter pulling over one of the mountain tops. I jokingly said "Oh look, here comes big brother" to the person I was with. I wasnīt far off.The helicopter dipped lower and lower and started shining its lights on the crowd. I was kind of in awe and just sat and watched this thing circle us for a minute. As I looked back towards the crowd I saw a guy dressed in camoflauge walking by, toting an assault rifle. At this point, everyone was fully aware of what was going on . A few "troops" rushed the stage and cut the sound off and started yelling that everyone "get the fuck out of here or go to jail". This is where it got really sticky.No one resisted. Thatīs for sure. They had police dogs raiding the crowd of people and I saw a dog signal out a guy who obviously had some drugs on him. The soldiers attacked the guy (4 of them on 1), and kicked him a few times in the ribs and had their knees in his back and sides. As they were cuffing him, there was about 1000 kids trying to leave in the backdrop, peacefully. Next thing I know, A can of fucking TEAR GAS is launched into the crowd. People are running and screaming at this point. Girls are crying, guys are cussing... bad scene.Now, this is all I saw with my own eyes, but I heard plenty of other accounts of the night. Now this isnt gossip I heard from some candy raver, these are instances cited straight out of the promoters mouth..-One of the promoters friends (a very small female) was attacked by one of the police dogs. As she struggled to get away from it, the police tackled her. 3 grown men proceeded to KICK HER IN THE STOMACH.- The police confiscated 3 video tapes in total. People were trying to document what was happening out there. The police saw one guy filming and ran after him, tackled him and his camera fell, and luckily.. his friend grabbed it and ran and got away. priceless footage. Thatīs not all though. Out of 1,500 people, thereīs sure to be more footage.- The police were rounding up the staff of the party and the main promoter went up to them with the permit for the show and said "here, I have the permit." The police then said, "no you donīt" and ripped the permit out of his hand. Then, they put an assault rifle to his forehead and said "get the fuck out of here right now."Now.. letīs get the facts straight here.This event was 100% legal. They had every permit the city told them they needed. They had a 2 MILLION DOLLAR insurance policy for the event. They had liscenced security guards at the gates confiscating any alcohol or drugs found upon entry (yes, they searched every car on the way in). Oh, I suppose I should mention that they arrested all the security guards for possession.Oh another interesting fact.. the police did not have a warrant. The owner of the land already has a lawsuit against the city for something similar. A few months ago, she rented her land for a party and the police raided that as well. And catch this, the police forced her to LEAVE HER OWN PERSONAL PROPERTY. Thatīs right. They didnt arrest her, but made her leave her own property!!!Donīt get it twisted, this is all going down in probably THE most conservative state in the USA. And this is scary.. a gross violation of our civil liberties. The police wanted this party shut down, so they made it happen. Even though everything about this event was legal. The promoters spent over $ 20,000 on this show and did everything they had to to make it legit, only to have it taken away from them by a group of radical neo-conīs with an agenda.This was one of the scariest things I have ever witnessed in person.I canīt even begin to describe how surreal it was. Helicopters, assault rifles, tear gas, camoflauge-wearing soldiers.... why? Was that really necessary?This needs to be big news across the USofA. At least in our music scene (edm as a whole)... this could happen to any of us at any time. When weīre losing the right to gather peacefully, weīre also letting the police set a standard of what we can get away with. And I think thatīs BULLSHIT!The system fucked up last night... They broke up a party that was 100% legal and they physically hurt a lot of people there at the same time. The promoters already have 6 lawsuits ready to file with their lawyers and the ACLU is already involved.Iīm sure some pictures (and hopefully some video) will surface soon. Iīll make sure to post them up here on 404, so you can see the Police State of America at work."
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| Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:08 AM | | Re: Clever tactic, Jackboot Fascists, you have just radicalized another generation | Quote |
MSM Blackout Bump...good research Kento ...thanks for the firstperson accounts...the gloves are obviously off...anyone is fair game...sacrifical messengers of whats to come for us all. |
| Sick of raves
12/8/2005 10:08 AM
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All very boring and rehashed in the other thread...for a good read, ignore this drivel and go the other thread.
Youīre a real special one arenīt you Emperor?
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| tohellwith yourturtle
12/8/2005 10:08 AM
| | Emperor Kenton
12/8/2005 10:08 AM
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Another idea: skip the Woodstook style protest rallies. Such events are too easy to infiltrate by the goons.
Instead get organized, get advocacy to take your statements in clusters downtown on the streets, street-theater, music, poetry, art.
Small groups everywhere. I know, I know the stupid ordinances seem to block this effort. Put on some pressure with the lawmakers. Every street corner should be okay for small groups of Creatives.
Music will be very important to this.
Those of you that still have small independent business, help open this up.
If the truckers can park their rigs everywhere in protest, an individual ought to be able to stand on the corner with a beat up old guitar.
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| Emperor Kenton
12/8/2005 10:08 AM
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All very boring and rehashed in the other thread...for a good read, ignore this drivel and go the other thread.
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Do I need to go to the Principal for a hall pass? Silly old bitty school-marms..
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You hit the nail on the head Brother, oh yeah !! 