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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 3405890  United States06/20/2012 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! For a country that was founded on a tax revolution, the subject says it all. The massive amount of taxes that caused our ancestors to lead a revolution was 2% of their yearly income! That's right they were so outraged by this attack on their freedom that they literally grabbed their guns and started blowing peoples heads off in the form of open warfare! What a bunch of radicals! The only difference between them and us, is that they wouldn't stand for someone trying to take their freedoms, and we just simply won't stand up for freedom. Argue if you will but facts are facts. For some their enslavement is too painful to acknowledge. Quoting: GodFrequency Two types of Government now exist on planet earth, the old fashioned dictatorships and those pretending to be free countries (USA, France, Germany, England, Japan, Ireland, etc. etc.) which are nothing more than bank owned dictatorships.  Pull back the curtain and there sits the Wizard! Say hello to those who run your lives and farm all of us human cattle!  If you'll notice at the bottom of this list of who owns your ass, you will find none other than General Electric who guess what, didn't pay a dime in taxes this year! Surprise surprise! [link to www.save-a-patriot.org] Read on below as all of those that are receiving payment from your enslavement post about the wonders and freedoms and benefits they are providing to you, that you cannot live without. They will post things like people worked harder back then, and act as if socialism invented the tractor, the telephone, electricity and everything else that has improved our lives today. Wait Watch and listen, here they come! Notice their arguments not one of them will be about your freedom, but the plastic beeds they trade back to you with the real labor you gave to them in the first place.   |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9248136  Canada06/20/2012 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! For a country that was founded on a tax revolution, the subject says it all. The massive amount of taxes that caused our ancestors to lead a revolution was 2% of their yearly income! That's right they were so outraged by this attack on their freedom that they literally grabbed their guns and started blowing peoples heads off in the form of open warfare! What a bunch of radicals! The only difference between them and us, is that they wouldn't stand for someone trying to take their freedoms, and we just simply won't stand up for freedom. Argue if you will but facts are facts. For some their enslavement is too painful to acknowledge. Quoting: GodFrequency Two types of Government now exist on planet earth, the old fashioned dictatorships and those pretending to be free countries (USA, France, Germany, England, Japan, Ireland, etc. etc.) which are nothing more than bank owned dictatorships. Pull back the curtain and there sits the Wizard! Say hello to those who run your lives and farm all of us human cattle! If you'll notice at the bottom of this list of who owns your ass, you will find none other than General Electric who guess what, didn't pay a dime in taxes this year! Surprise surprise! [link to www.save-a-patriot.org] Read on below as all of those that are receiving payment from your enslavement post about the wonders and freedoms and benefits they are providing to you, that you cannot live without. They will post things like people worked harder back then, and act as if socialism invented the tractor, the telephone, electricity and everything else that has improved our lives today. Wait Watch and listen, here they come! Notice their arguments not one of them will be about your freedom, but the plastic beeds they trade back to you with the real labor you gave to them in the first place. Waking up means Contacting your local politicians until their office will recognize your voice ... Waking up also means learning from history so this time it should be a bloodless revolution . |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 18288458 United States06/20/2012 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! In 1912 there was no colossal military to support. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15128025 There was no colossal welfare state to support. There was no colossal federal bureaucracy to support. A. If we gave up the military tomorrow, we'd be attacked the day after tomorrow, and we'd be speaking Chinese or Russian by the end of the week. B. If we gave up the welfare state tomorrow. half the country that depends on government checks would burn the country to the ground. Then the other half would be eaten by the zombie cannibals. C. If we gave up the federal bureaucracy tomorrow, see A. and B. We are long past ANY solution to the mess we are in. No nation that has sunk as low as we have has survived. In fact, we don't deserve to survive. We have become a vile, wicked, morally and financially bankrupt nation. Our future is inevitable. The United States is going to collapse financially, or militarily, or both. WWIII coming up. I understand that it will collapse, but I think people should be ready to understand why it collapsed so that we don't once again CONSOLIDATE POWER into fewer hands, which is what has gotten us all into this mess! You are right, and none of the outrageous military, wars, and welfare would have been possible without the consolidation of power into the hands of the few. I will agree that it is over though. I just hope we know what to rebuild. Plus 4 years ago, the people and industry were stronger, four more years from now and we'll be even weaker still if we're around at all, and not in fema camps, so doing nothing isn't exactly an option either. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17925642 United States06/20/2012 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! For a country that was founded on a tax revolution, the subject says it all. The massive amount of taxes that caused our ancestors to lead a revolution was 2% of their yearly income! That's right they were so outraged by this attack on their freedom that they literally grabbed their guns and started blowing peoples heads off in the form of open warfare! What a bunch of radicals! The only difference between them and us, is that they wouldn't stand for someone trying to take their freedoms, and we just simply won't stand up for freedom. Argue if you will but facts are facts. For some their enslavement is too painful to acknowledge. Quoting: GodFrequency Two types of Government now exist on planet earth, the old fashioned dictatorships and those pretending to be free countries (USA, France, Germany, England, Japan, Ireland, etc. etc.) which are nothing more than bank owned dictatorships. Pull back the curtain and there sits the Wizard! Say hello to those who run your lives and farm all of us human cattle! If you'll notice at the bottom of this list of who owns your ass, you will find none other than General Electric who guess what, didn't pay a dime in taxes this year! Surprise surprise! [link to www.save-a-patriot.org] Read on below as all of those that are receiving payment from your enslavement post about the wonders and freedoms and benefits they are providing to you, that you cannot live without. They will post things like people worked harder back then, and act as if socialism invented the tractor, the telephone, electricity and everything else that has improved our lives today. Wait Watch and listen, here they come! Notice their arguments not one of them will be about your freedom, but the plastic beeds they trade back to you with the real labor you gave to them in the first place. Wrong, Income tax was originally started in 1862 in order to pay for the Civil War although it was a miniscule amount but it is not the same tax code we have today. Of course back then it was all about the individual and individual states rights and not about huge corporate owned Govt we have today. They did not have to support a.... Welfare, food stamps, Social Security, CIA, FBI, TSA, NSA, DHS, massive military, black ops, Area 51, Harp, Military satellites, NASA, nationwide opression and spying on its own citizens, Fema, continuous WARS, and I could go on and on. Disagree about the 2 types of governments. Now there are more but Soon there will be only one... Corporate owned government / Fascism.... And its really too late to do anything about it. So get ready for higher taxes and taking detailed instructions on how to run every aspect of your business. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 18288458 United States06/20/2012 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! For a country that was founded on a tax revolution, the subject says it all. The massive amount of taxes that caused our ancestors to lead a revolution was 2% of their yearly income! That's right they were so outraged by this attack on their freedom that they literally grabbed their guns and started blowing peoples heads off in the form of open warfare! What a bunch of radicals! The only difference between them and us, is that they wouldn't stand for someone trying to take their freedoms, and we just simply won't stand up for freedom. Argue if you will but facts are facts. For some their enslavement is too painful to acknowledge. Quoting: GodFrequency Two types of Government now exist on planet earth, the old fashioned dictatorships and those pretending to be free countries (USA, France, Germany, England, Japan, Ireland, etc. etc.) which are nothing more than bank owned dictatorships. Pull back the curtain and there sits the Wizard! Say hello to those who run your lives and farm all of us human cattle! If you'll notice at the bottom of this list of who owns your ass, you will find none other than General Electric who guess what, didn't pay a dime in taxes this year! Surprise surprise! [link to www.save-a-patriot.org] Read on below as all of those that are receiving payment from your enslavement post about the wonders and freedoms and benefits they are providing to you, that you cannot live without. They will post things like people worked harder back then, and act as if socialism invented the tractor, the telephone, electricity and everything else that has improved our lives today. Wait Watch and listen, here they come! Notice their arguments not one of them will be about your freedom, but the plastic beeds they trade back to you with the real labor you gave to them in the first place. Waking up means Contacting your local politicians until their office will recognize your voice ... Waking up also means learning from history so this time it should be a bloodless revolution . They were contacted, and in response we were given larger government and a mandatory by force health care program that we couldn't afford. We even voted in patriots, and they were hijacked into the Republican party and now we have bills like the NDAA, and things passed to where you can't even protest close to a government official any longer! Yes, keep voting. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15339449 United States06/20/2012 12:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! DEMAND IS MADE FOR LAWFUL MONEY PER 12 USC 411 Written above all your signature endorsements and it ends your use of private Federal Reserve Credit. You will then be using US Treasury notes which leaves the obligation to pay with the Treasury and Congress. Unless and until you demand your lawful redemption from the Federal Reserve Currency system with the above demand, you own all responsibility to pay for it with your labor and property. 12 USC 411 holds the answer to the Creature from Jekyll Island nothing else. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17868121 United States06/20/2012 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! There will be NO resolutions as long as the BIGGEST fraud is kept alive. THE AMERICAS are the LAND OF BLACKS (who have been told they are from somebody's "Africa) ... This REVEAL will be VERY UGLY for ALL the THIEVES and those who have benefited from the fraud! |
Adventus Domini  User ID: 893880 United States06/20/2012 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! MisInformation with a small amount of facts is called a myth, Fact check: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2160618 The United States has had public debt since its inception. Debts incurred during the American Revolutionary War and under the Articles of Confederation led to the first yearly reported value of $75,463,476.52 on January 1, 1791. Over the following 45 years, the debt grew, briefly contracted to zero on January 8, 1835 under President Andrew Jackson but then quickly grew into the millions again The US debt in 1910 was 2.6 billion dollars and growing to 25.9 billion in 1920. [link to www.edinformatics.com] Also, the was a bad ass recession in play at that time. [link to en.wikipedia.org] True the Federal income tax was not around then and the federal reserve act had to wait until 1913 - 1914 in YET ANOTHER RECESSION. ASSUMING: $2,600,000,000.00 commodity in 1912. In 2012, the relative real price of that commodity is $62,200,000,000.00. At $16 trillion current debt (not even taking into account unfunded liabilities), our current debt level is 257 TIMES GREATER THAN IN 1912! Last Edited by Adventus Domini on 06/20/2012 12:58 PM When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 18288458 United States06/20/2012 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! In 1912, people worked 12-14 hour days 6 days a week for slave wages. I'll take 21st century working conditions, thank you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1162395 disinfo, in the 1850's a man could work six months a year a raise a family of 10 With a life expectancy of 40 years. An infant mortility rate of 217 per 1000. Yeah thats better than today right? Yes, and it's all do to the government! How much technology has the NWO stolen from mankind? Think about this very simple fact. The initial bailouts of the banks would have put a solar panel and a wind generator on every house in the entire country! Do they want you to be off the grid? Do they truly want to solve the energy crisis, or pretend to be green, or do they want you forever on the treadmill. More importantly, what if you stopped buying petroleum? More terrifying yet, what if the Government didn't get all those tax dollars! agggghhhh! You know the 60 - to 70 cents you pay on every gallon of gas that you buy in taxes! Have you ever noticed that it all circles back to taxes! You see if you didn't have to buy as much energy, you wouldn't have to work as many hours, you could spend more time with your family and less taxes for those who receive the benefits of your labor. Putting that into context, any of the following would destroy the NWO, and the Federal Reserve system that we now function on. It would destroy the largest industry in America, GOVERNMENT! The two biggest threats are Medical Cures! and Free Energy! Either one of those things would destroy the Powers that B, It would destroy the tax base, and allow people to spend more time with their families. What if such pioneers as Royal Raymond Rife were allowed to cure cancer? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 18288458 United States06/20/2012 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! What if we didn't need highways? What if Nikola Tesla was allowed to give the world FREEDOM through free energy, instead of the government classifying it? How many innovations that have been created have been silenced? Our best technology is cars that run off of an engine invented in the 1800's? Does anyone actually buy that one? Where are the flying cars, the medical miracles, the only ting they have been doing is experimenting on us like lab rats! And fools all around the world are crying out not to be healed, or to never have to go back to one of these institutions, but to make it mandatory that we all sign up! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 18288458 United States06/20/2012 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! gas tax pays for highways city tax and state tax pays for water treatment, infrastructure property tax pays for schools, fire and police protection The electric companies get paid every time you pay utilities to keep up the electrical grid. Where the hell does all the other money go? |
| The light User ID: 18291810  Ireland06/20/2012 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! The three men who have prevented this from ever happening went down with the Titanic. We are all aware of that little conspiracy theory. [link to www.youtube.com] |
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| s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States06/20/2012 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! In 1912, people worked 12-14 hour days 6 days a week for slave wages. I'll take 21st century working conditions, thank you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1162395 And that has what to do with the income tax and federal reserve bank? Are you suggesting that the income tax and the fed are responsible for better working conditions? I don't think so. Thank you. Last Edited by s. d. butler on 06/20/2012 02:14 PM |
| s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States06/20/2012 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! So what if we just stopped paying the Federal Reserve Tax Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18288458 gas tax pays for highways city tax and state tax pays for water treatment, infrastructure property tax pays for schools, fire and police protection The electric companies get paid every time you pay utilities to keep up the electrical grid. Where the hell does all the other money go? It goes to waste, fraud, and abuse. It goes to gov wages, perks, benefits and retirement. It goes to wars and a police state to enrich the politicians and military/industrial complex. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2160618 United States06/20/2012 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! MisInformation with a small amount of facts is called a myth, Fact check: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2160618 The United States has had public debt since its inception. Debts incurred during the American Revolutionary War and under the Articles of Confederation led to the first yearly reported value of $75,463,476.52 on January 1, 1791. Over the following 45 years, the debt grew, briefly contracted to zero on January 8, 1835 under President Andrew Jackson but then quickly grew into the millions again The US debt in 1910 was 2.6 billion dollars and growing to 25.9 billion in 1920. [link to www.edinformatics.com] Also, the was a bad ass recession in play at that time. [link to en.wikipedia.org] True the Federal income tax was not around then and the federal reserve act had to wait until 1913 - 1914 in YET ANOTHER RECESSION. ASSUMING: $2,600,000,000.00 commodity in 1912. In 2012, the relative real price of that commodity is $62,200,000,000.00. At $16 trillion current debt (not even taking into account unfunded liabilities), our current debt level is 257 TIMES GREATER THAN IN 1912! looking back at 1850, the gdp was somewhere between 2 to 4 billion dollars at least from what I can find. now do the math. We are no where near this percentage. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1115892 United States06/20/2012 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! Your facts are 100% correct but I have one simple question. Let's say we were to go back to pre taxes era. How would we pay for infrastructure. How do you suggest we pay lets say for roads? Police Fire Department. Should we just make these things a private entitiy and pay say service fees like higher Tolls? Or fire deparmtent fees where only ones that pay get serviced? Ohh wait but than isn't that the same FUCKING thing with a different Name on it. FEES/TAXES Yesour governments are not efficient at using our taxes but the reality is that without them we would not have advance in our world. So unless you plan on picking cotton again for a living. Suck it up and pay your taxes and instead focus on changing our government to be more transaprent and efficient with your money. |
| Adventus Domini User ID: 893880 United States06/20/2012 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! MisInformation with a small amount of facts is called a myth, Fact check: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2160618 The United States has had public debt since its inception. Debts incurred during the American Revolutionary War and under the Articles of Confederation led to the first yearly reported value of $75,463,476.52 on January 1, 1791. Over the following 45 years, the debt grew, briefly contracted to zero on January 8, 1835 under President Andrew Jackson but then quickly grew into the millions again The US debt in 1910 was 2.6 billion dollars and growing to 25.9 billion in 1920. [link to www.edinformatics.com] Also, the was a bad ass recession in play at that time. [link to en.wikipedia.org] True the Federal income tax was not around then and the federal reserve act had to wait until 1913 - 1914 in YET ANOTHER RECESSION. ASSUMING: $2,600,000,000.00 commodity in 1912. In 2012, the relative real price of that commodity is $62,200,000,000.00. At $16 trillion current debt (not even taking into account unfunded liabilities), our current debt level is 257 TIMES GREATER THAN IN 1912! looking back at 1850, the gdp was somewhere between 2 to 4 billion dollars at least from what I can find. now do the math. We are no where near this percentage. 1912: US GDP = $37.4 billion [link to www.usgovernmentrevenue.com] Debt = $2.6 billion Debt to GDP = 2.6/37.4 = 7% 2012: US GDP = $15.2 trillion Debt = $15.8 trillion Debt to GDP = 15.8/15.2 = 104% Debt to GDP is 15 times greater in 2012 There, just did the math. Last Edited by Adventus Domini on 06/20/2012 02:44 PM When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2160618 United States06/20/2012 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! MisInformation with a small amount of facts is called a myth, Fact check: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2160618 The United States has had public debt since its inception. Debts incurred during the American Revolutionary War and under the Articles of Confederation led to the first yearly reported value of $75,463,476.52 on January 1, 1791. Over the following 45 years, the debt grew, briefly contracted to zero on January 8, 1835 under President Andrew Jackson but then quickly grew into the millions again The US debt in 1910 was 2.6 billion dollars and growing to 25.9 billion in 1920. [link to www.edinformatics.com] Also, the was a bad ass recession in play at that time. [link to en.wikipedia.org] True the Federal income tax was not around then and the federal reserve act had to wait until 1913 - 1914 in YET ANOTHER RECESSION. ASSUMING: $2,600,000,000.00 commodity in 1912. In 2012, the relative real price of that commodity is $62,200,000,000.00. At $16 trillion current debt (not even taking into account unfunded liabilities), our current debt level is 257 TIMES GREATER THAN IN 1912! looking back at 1850, the gdp was somewhere between 2 to 4 billion dollars at least from what I can find. now do the math. We are no where near this percentage. 1912: US GDP = $37.4 billion [link to www.usgovernmentrevenue.com] Debt = $2.6 billion Debt to GDP = 2.6/37.4 = 7% 2012: US GDP = $15.2 trillion Debt = $15.8 trillion Debt to GDP = 15.8/15.2 = 104% Debt to GDP is 15 times greater in 2012 There, just did the math. I knew you would go to this site lol. There are sources and then there are legit sources. lol. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2160618 United States06/20/2012 03:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! ... Quoting: Adventus Domini ASSUMING: $2,600,000,000.00 commodity in 1912. In 2012, the relative real price of that commodity is $62,200,000,000.00. At $16 trillion current debt (not even taking into account unfunded liabilities), our current debt level is 257 TIMES GREATER THAN IN 1912! looking back at 1850, the gdp was somewhere between 2 to 4 billion dollars at least from what I can find. now do the math. We are no where near this percentage. 1912: US GDP = $37.4 billion [link to www.usgovernmentrevenue.com] Debt = $2.6 billion Debt to GDP = 2.6/37.4 = 7% 2012: US GDP = $15.2 trillion Debt = $15.8 trillion Debt to GDP = 15.8/15.2 = 104% Debt to GDP is 15 times greater in 2012 There, just did the math. I knew you would go to this site lol. There are sources and then there are legit sources. lol. Oh by the way he is a foreigner who took a job away from an American lol. |
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| Adventus Domini User ID: 893880 United States06/20/2012 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! ... Quoting: Adventus Domini ASSUMING: $2,600,000,000.00 commodity in 1912. In 2012, the relative real price of that commodity is $62,200,000,000.00. At $16 trillion current debt (not even taking into account unfunded liabilities), our current debt level is 257 TIMES GREATER THAN IN 1912! looking back at 1850, the gdp was somewhere between 2 to 4 billion dollars at least from what I can find. now do the math. We are no where near this percentage. 1912: US GDP = $37.4 billion [link to www.usgovernmentrevenue.com] Debt = $2.6 billion Debt to GDP = 2.6/37.4 = 7% 2012: US GDP = $15.2 trillion Debt = $15.8 trillion Debt to GDP = 15.8/15.2 = 104% Debt to GDP is 15 times greater in 2012 There, just did the math. I knew you would go to this site lol. There are sources and then there are legit sources. lol. How shillerific of you. When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. |
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| s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States06/20/2012 03:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! Your facts are 100% correct but I have one simple question. Let's say we were to go back to pre taxes era. How would we pay for infrastructure. Quoting: Ready2bugout How do you suggest we pay lets say for roads? Police Fire Department. Should we just make these things a private entitiy and pay say service fees like higher Tolls? Or fire deparmtent fees where only ones that pay get serviced? Ohh wait but than isn't that the same FUCKING thing with a different Name on it. FEES/TAXES Yesour governments are not efficient at using our taxes but the reality is that without them we would not have advance in our world. So unless you plan on picking cotton again for a living. Suck it up and pay your taxes and instead focus on changing our government to be more transaprent and efficient with your money. Well, maybe we'd pay more. But I doubt it. Government wastes and mismanages everything they touch. And for everything the do, another problem is created. Essentially government is a disease masquerading as a cure. Since 1950 the private sector has grown 5X, the parasites (.gov) have grown 13X and still they want more. With private services you have the choice to take them or leave them. With government the choice is do what we say or we'll kill, imprison or bankrupt you. Or maybe all three. I fail to see how being forced to do something at the point of a gun is a good thing. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7594251 United States06/20/2012 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! Your facts are 100% correct but I have one simple question. Let's say we were to go back to pre taxes era. How would we pay for infrastructure. Quoting: Ready2bugout How do you suggest we pay lets say for roads? Police Fire Department. Should we just make these things a private entitiy and pay say service fees like higher Tolls? Or fire deparmtent fees where only ones that pay get serviced? Ohh wait but than isn't that the same FUCKING thing with a different Name on it. FEES/TAXES Yesour governments are not efficient at using our taxes but the reality is that without them we would not have advance in our world. So unless you plan on picking cotton again for a living. Suck it up and pay your taxes and instead focus on changing our government to be more transaprent and efficient with your money. Instead of just sucking it up, we can spread awareness about the illegality of the fed and the 16th amendment. A responsible citizen should know where their money is going. You dont think the founding fathers thought about how to pay for infrastructure? |
| s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States06/20/2012 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! In 1912, people worked 12-14 hour days 6 days a week for slave wages. I'll take 21st century working conditions, thank you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1162395 disinfo, in the 1850's a man could work six months a year a raise a family of 10 With a life expectancy of 40 years. An infant mortility rate of 217 per 1000. Yeah thats better than today right? And life expentancy and infant mortality have gotten much better because of the fed and income tax? Do you see what you are defending? Do you even think about what you are saying? |
