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the future is doomed? User ID: 1426995 United States 10/08/2011 10:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! I know...let's do away with these bastards, the whole lot of them. Then let's go back to a gold standard like the way things out to be. Fundamentalism stops a thinking mind. "If you hate the world, change it to suit you." Thoreau. ***Join me on the 90 Day Challenge!!! Ask Me How!!!*** |
the future is doomed? User ID: 1426995 United States 10/08/2011 10:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! the REAL problem in this world is overpopulation which drains many different aspects on other peoples lives, then I believe second in line behind overpopulation is inequality. Both inequality and overpopulation can be easily fixed, but the elites in control have no interest in fixing them; therefore, the only way to fix them is to overthrow the elites. Fundamentalism stops a thinking mind. "If you hate the world, change it to suit you." Thoreau. ***Join me on the 90 Day Challenge!!! Ask Me How!!!*** |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2891088 United States 10/08/2011 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! the REAL problem in this world is overpopulation which drains many different aspects on other peoples lives, then I believe second in line behind overpopulation is inequality. Both inequality and overpopulation can be easily fixed, but the elites in control have no interest in fixing them; therefore, the only way to fix them is to overthrow the elites. Quoting: the future is doomed? The real problem? The real problem lack of innovations. A medical industry without cures. A department of energy, that helps no one become energy independent. A government that cares nothing about freedom, but only taxation, and financial slavery. |
Arcturus User ID: 1553128 United States 10/08/2011 11:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! Everyone likes to speak of 'The Real Problem' as if, there's only one. LOL. However tonight I'll offer one solution, to a real problem, that's the 2nd American Depression. So far there's been no visible will to reverse the deliberate & engineered collapse. If the will & desire existed it could be reversed & rather quickly by first reinstating the Stock Transfer Tax. The United States had a transfer tax from 1914 to 1966. The Revenue Act of 1914 levied a 0.2 percent tax on all sales and transfers of stock. In 1932, Congress more than doubled the tax to help financial recovery and job creation during the Great Depression. |
Arcturus User ID: 1553128 United States 10/08/2011 11:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! Everyone likes to speak of 'The Real Problem' as if, there's only one. LOL. However tonight I'll offer one solution, to a real problem, that's the 2nd American Depression. So far there's been no visible will to reverse the deliberate & engineered collapse. If the will & desire existed it could be reversed & rather quickly by first reinstating the Stock Transfer Tax. The United States had a transfer tax from 1914 to 1966. The Revenue Act of 1914 levied a 0.2 percent tax on all sales and transfers of stock. In 1932, Congress more than doubled the tax to help financial recovery and job creation during the Great Depression. |
the future is doomed? User ID: 1426995 United States 10/09/2011 09:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! the REAL problem in this world is overpopulation which drains many different aspects on other peoples lives, then I believe second in line behind overpopulation is inequality. Both inequality and overpopulation can be easily fixed, but the elites in control have no interest in fixing them; therefore, the only way to fix them is to overthrow the elites. Quoting: the future is doomed? The real problem? The real problem lack of innovations. A medical industry without cures. A department of energy, that helps no one become energy independent. A government that cares nothing about freedom, but only taxation, and financial slavery. All of those problems you mention truly stem in my opinion from the elites. The elites control EVERYTHING. I agree with your problems though. They are very serious problems that need to be dealt with. They are easy to fix as well if people were held accountable and people actually gave a fuck about improving this world and humanity as a whole. Fundamentalism stops a thinking mind. "If you hate the world, change it to suit you." Thoreau. ***Join me on the 90 Day Challenge!!! Ask Me How!!!*** |
the future is doomed? User ID: 1426995 United States 10/09/2011 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! Everyone likes to speak of 'The Real Problem' as if, there's only one. LOL. Quoting: Arcturus 1553128 However tonight I'll offer one solution, to a real problem, that's the 2nd American Depression. So far there's been no visible will to reverse the deliberate & engineered collapse. If the will & desire existed it could be reversed & rather quickly by first reinstating the Stock Transfer Tax. The United States had a transfer tax from 1914 to 1966. The Revenue Act of 1914 levied a 0.2 percent tax on all sales and transfers of stock. In 1932, Congress more than doubled the tax to help financial recovery and job creation during the Great Depression. Your idea might work for a little while but the real key is to stop spending and stop corruption. in my opinion. Fundamentalism stops a thinking mind. "If you hate the world, change it to suit you." Thoreau. ***Join me on the 90 Day Challenge!!! Ask Me How!!!*** |
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Evil_Twin User ID: 1426506 United States 10/11/2011 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! My God you are an idiot. 100 years ago was 1911. It was know as the era of the Robber Barrons when people worked up to 16 hours a day six days a week in miserable conditions. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1323849 In fact, we just passed the 100 year anniversary of the Shirtwaist Factory fire where 146 people died in a sweatshop. The youngest were 2 14 year old girls. If you support a system like that, you are a sick individual. Umm...revising and simplifying tax code and down-sizing government does not mean repealing labor laws. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68118 United States 10/11/2011 06:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! The printed capitol letters on your birth certificate, drivers license, check book, credit cards, etc., confirm that you're a slave with no rights. Capitus Diminutio Maxima. You're a dummy corporation slave. Thread: Capitus Diminutio MAXIMA |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 3264049 United Kingdom 10/14/2011 04:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! also interesting that prior to the credit boom created by the fed from 1913-1929, existing businesses in the US tended to grow organically, i.e. reinvesting their profits as they went along, rather than growing by using credit/debt to fund the growth. and that during the ~200 years of the gold standard there was no inflation. "It is impossible to grasp the meaning of the idea of sound money if one does not realize that it was devised as an instrument for the protection of civil liberties against despotic inroads on the part of governments. Ideologically it belongs in the same class with political constitutions and bills of rights. The demand for constitutional guarantees and for bills of rights was a reaction against arbitrary rule and the non-observance of old customs by kings." Ludwig von Mises i'm all for the occupy movement, especially if they correctly ID the perpetrators of the crime against humanity that is fiat money, the private companies aka central banks. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2319293 United States 10/19/2011 11:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! Here is you're Governments greed! They will never stop, because they can't stop. Quoting: GodFrequencyInteresting List of Taxes that exist today TAXES: Accounts Receivable Tax Building Permit Tax Capital Gains Tax CDL license Tax Cigarette Tax Corporate Income Tax Court Fines (indirect taxes) Dog License Tax Federal Income Tax Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA) Fishing License Tax Food License Tax Fuel permit tax Gasoline Tax (42 cents per gallon) Hunting License Tax Inheritance Tax Interest expense (tax on the money) Inventory tax IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax) IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax) Liquor Tax Local Income Tax Luxury Taxes Marriage License Tax Medicare Tax Property Tax Real Estate Tax Septic Permit Tax Service Charge Taxes Social Security Tax Road Usage Taxes (Truckers) Sales Taxes Recreational Vehicle Tax Road Toll Booth Taxes School Tax State Income Tax State Unemployment Tax (SUTA) Telephone federal excise tax Telephone federal universal service fee tax Telephone federal, state and local surcharge taxes Telephone minimum usage surcharge tax Telephone recurring and non-recurring charges tax Telephone state and local tax Telephone usage charge tax Toll Bridge Taxes Toll Tunnel Taxes Traffic Fines (indirect taxation) Trailer Registration Tax Utility Taxes Vehicle License Registration Tax Vehicle Sales Tax Watercraft Registration Tax Well Permit Tax Workers Compensation Tax COMMENTS: "Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago and our nation was the most prosperous in the world, had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world and only one parent had to work to support the family." My God you are an idiot. 100 years ago was 1911. It was know as the era of the Robber Barrons when people worked up to 16 hours a day six days a week in miserable conditions. In fact, we just passed the 100 year anniversary of the Shirtwaist Factory fire where 146 people died in a sweatshop. The youngest were 2 14 year old girls. If you support a system like that, you are a sick individual. You honestly think it's any different now? Child labor? still happens. miserable work conditions? still happens. 16 hour + work days? still happens. The only difference is that we use illegal immigrants, and outsource the crappy jobs to other countries where child labor laws aren't enforced/don't exist. Every time you take a bite of a chocolate bar or take a sip of coffee you're supporting that very same system. Not that you care. Out of sight, out of mind huh? |
GodFrequency (OP) User ID: 3755199 United States 10/22/2011 12:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! Here is you're Governments greed! They will never stop, because they can't stop. Quoting: GodFrequencyInteresting List of Taxes that exist today TAXES: Accounts Receivable Tax Building Permit Tax Capital Gains Tax CDL license Tax Cigarette Tax Corporate Income Tax Court Fines (indirect taxes) Dog License Tax Federal Income Tax Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA) Fishing License Tax Food License Tax Fuel permit tax Gasoline Tax (42 cents per gallon) Hunting License Tax Inheritance Tax Interest expense (tax on the money) Inventory tax IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax) IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax) Liquor Tax Local Income Tax Luxury Taxes Marriage License Tax Medicare Tax Property Tax Real Estate Tax Septic Permit Tax Service Charge Taxes Social Security Tax Road Usage Taxes (Truckers) Sales Taxes Recreational Vehicle Tax Road Toll Booth Taxes School Tax State Income Tax State Unemployment Tax (SUTA) Telephone federal excise tax Telephone federal universal service fee tax Telephone federal, state and local surcharge taxes Telephone minimum usage surcharge tax Telephone recurring and non-recurring charges tax Telephone state and local tax Telephone usage charge tax Toll Bridge Taxes Toll Tunnel Taxes Traffic Fines (indirect taxation) Trailer Registration Tax Utility Taxes Vehicle License Registration Tax Vehicle Sales Tax Watercraft Registration Tax Well Permit Tax Workers Compensation Tax COMMENTS: "Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago and our nation was the most prosperous in the world, had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world and only one parent had to work to support the family." My God you are an idiot. 100 years ago was 1911. It was know as the era of the Robber Barrons when people worked up to 16 hours a day six days a week in miserable conditions. In fact, we just passed the 100 year anniversary of the Shirtwaist Factory fire where 146 people died in a sweatshop. The youngest were 2 14 year old girls. If you support a system like that, you are a sick individual. You are confusing technological advances that of coarse would have made all our lives easier with taxes. You honestly think that all those taxes set you free? Give you more freedom? No, it's slavery. What is the difference between working all day for a robber baron, and working all day for the government? Half your life is spent working for the government, and that is a conservative estimate. |
wisc_natureboy User ID: 3178000 United States 10/22/2011 01:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! OP Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1037929 No national debt??? Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 1900 - 1949 07/01/1913 2,916,204,913.66 07/01/1912 2,868,373,874.16 07/01/1911 2,765,600,606.69 07/01/1910 2,652,665,838.04 07/01/1909 2,639,546,241.04 07/01/1908 2,626,806,271.54 07/01/1907 2,457,188,061.54 07/01/1906 2,337,161,839.04 07/01/1905 2,274,615,063.84 07/01/1904 2,264,003,585.14 07/01/1903 2,202,464,781.89 07/01/1902 2,158,610,445.89 07/01/1901 2,143,326,933.89 07/01/1900 2,136,961,091.67 [link to www.treasurydirect.gov] And those are silver dollars, about .77 OZ ASW which will cost you around 30$ today. So an equalized money comparison would be about 30X as much, so in 1900, about 64.1 Billion in our current currency. We all breathe the same air. .-.. --- ...- . / .- .-.. .-.. |
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GodFrequency (OP) User ID: 4026486 United States 10/25/2011 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! I know...let's do away with these bastards, the whole lot of them. Then let's go back to a gold standard like the way things out to be. Quoting: the future is doomed? +1 And it is, of course, pure coincidence that 99% of the top Federal Reserve operatives are members of a certain, Chosen Tribe! The gold standard sounds great, but those in power are the ones buying massive amounts of physical silver and gold, so as long as the bankers gold and silver are taken from them and all their wealth confiscated after the collapse, then sure, a gold standard, or at least a currency backed by something like land, food, industry, anything tangible, that cannot be counterfeited. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1368672 United States 10/25/2011 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! In 1912, people worked 12-14 hour days 6 days a week for slave wages. I'll take 21st century working conditions, thank you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1162395I'm not sure how this makes sense? I don't think OP wants us to give up inventions, knowhow, machines. Could you explain your point? The OP and the right wing in general like to think that the income tax, central banking and "socialism" are making us slaves. The reality is that due to laws passed and enforced by the government we have greatly advanced as a society and are much better off than our great grandparents who lived as little more than chattel to the capitalist exploiters. So wrong, it's a myth, we are way overtaxed to the point where it's not profitable to own things any ore... Debt is slavery |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3976630 United States 10/25/2011 06:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! There was also no infrastructure. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1220699 Food took 40% of a persons average wage. Average homes were 450 sq ft. Yes and about 1/2 of the tax the federal govt DID get was from high taxes on liquor/beer/wine. In the run up to prohibition those taxes had to be replaced and that was done with income taxes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3976630 United States 10/25/2011 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! In 1912, people worked 12-14 hour days 6 days a week for slave wages. I'll take 21st century working conditions, thank you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1162395I'm not sure how this makes sense? I don't think OP wants us to give up inventions, knowhow, machines. Could you explain your point? The OP and the right wing in general like to think that the income tax, central banking and "socialism" are making us slaves. The reality is that due to laws passed and enforced by the government we have greatly advanced as a society and are much better off than our great grandparents who lived as little more than chattel to the capitalist exploiters. So wrong, it's a myth, we are way overtaxed to the point where it's not profitable to own things any ore... Debt is slavery Overtaxed compared to what other countries? Somalia? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4010591 United Kingdom 10/25/2011 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: In 1912 there was no Federal Income Tax, no national debt, and NO FEDERAL RESERVE BANK! Now we are taxed slaves! I know...let's do away with these bastards, the whole lot of them. Then let's go back to a gold standard like the way things out to be. Quoting: the future is doomed? +1 And it is, of course, pure coincidence that 99% of the top Federal Reserve operatives are members of a certain, Chosen Tribe! The gold standard sounds great, but those in power are the ones buying massive amounts of physical silver and gold, so as long as the bankers gold and silver are taken from them and all their wealth confiscated after the collapse, then sure, a gold standard, or at least a currency backed by something like land, food, industry, anything tangible, that cannot be counterfeited. There must be a return to a Gold, or Bi-Metallic, Standard, with a massive revaluation of the PMs, in "dollar" terms (for those chumps who say that there is not enough gold and silver to support a metal-backed currency standard). Or we are all doomed. |