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Does the Chimp have the mystic spear of Longinus
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Emperor Kenton
8/22/2005 8:16 PM
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lance of Longinus
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Discovery Times is currently hosting a program about the spear: The presentation includes this info:
"The paranormalists, however, have an answer even for this. Austria has not recovered its power simply because it does not possess the spear. The object in the museum is a fake, substituted in 1945 by the Americans, who kept the original in order to forge their own almighty power. Others believe that the Americans themselves were duped. The true spear, they say, was spirited away by submarine long before Patton´s men reached Nuremberg and concealed somewhere in Antarctica or South America. When the time is right, as the SS colonel boasted to his fellow officers, it will be brought out again to launch the Fourth Reich."
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Emperor Kenton
12/8/2005 10:09 AM
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Mystical power or not?
The real occult force behind the spear is that a mob of dweebs thinks it has a force.
Thus the twerps have secrety-secret chiporee-chipmunk boy´s club meeteings, dress up in gestapo uniforms and prance around like Punch and Judy..
Not that this isn´t dangerous, especially if the Brats have money.
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Lost Horizons
12/8/2005 10:09 AM
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Emperor Kenton
12/8/2005 10:09 AM
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Q
12/8/2005 10:09 AM
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OR.....maybe it has actual occult power.
Every ruler that has taken possesion of the "spear" has added something to it essentially, making it their own.
This talisman may have the ability to enhance the power a ruler may already posses.
This spear/talisman is carefully placed with the candidate that has proven himself most worthy.
I think the true Spear of Loginus is currently in London, where the true seat of all power has always been.
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Ain SophIA
12/8/2005 10:09 AM
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Pollyannuh
12/8/2005 10:09 AM
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Kent, what a scarey thought.
I´ve often wondered about that spear and exactly where it is today.
Your guess is as good as any I´ve heard.
The dayum thing should be blown to smithereens.
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: Does the Chimp have the mystic spear of Longinus | Quote |
Kent. Stick to space anamolies.
Politics will rot your soul...and I´ve observed over the year that you are starting to smell.
Nothing personal...just cut loose and get back to what you know. Thanks. |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: Does the Chimp have the mystic spear of Longinus | Quote |
Politics will ruin your site. Think back on all the anti-clinton sites. Where are they now? Gone. Forgotten.
Keep the space crap and absurd weather radar shots. They will last longer. |
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Anders
12/8/2005 10:09 AM
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: Does the Chimp have the mystic spear of Longinus | Quote |
I can think of plenty of politically motivated sites that are still around.
I think what you´re saying is don´t be too specifc. No shit you don´t focus your site on a president that will be out in 4 - 8 years, LMFAO!!
Dumbass. |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: Does the Chimp have the mystic spear of Longinus | Quote |
"Today the Spear of Longinus is back in the Weltliche Schatzkammer of the Hofburg. The talisman of world historic destiny stands on a faded red velvet dais within an open leather case in exactly the same spot in the Treasure House where Adolph Hitler first beheld it in 1909. It is on view to the public from Monday to Saturday from 9 a.m. to 6 p.m. Admission id free."
Source:
"The Sprear of Destiny" by Trevor Ravenscroft
1982
page 353
The information is dated. The spear on display may also be a replica.
Also a number of internet sources claim that the information about Patton´s 3rd Army capturing the spear are false. I have not been able to find an alternative explanation of what happened to it at the end of WWII.
Ravescroft mentions that the spear was handed over by US Army General Mark Clark to the Burgermeister of Veinna on January 6, 1946. |
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necramericanomicon
12/8/2005 10:09 AM
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have to agree that if indeed the spear of longinus is the most powerful talisman of political and military power in the west that it doesn´t fall into the skull and bones´ skeletal clutches...anything that could turn george patton´s face whiter than the grips on his ivory handled pistols--patton came into possession of the spear when the third army overran its hiding place--is beyond fearsome
however, given skull and bones´ fetish for just such objects, they probably do have the original for the performing of obscene luciferian rituals, like what they do with geronimo´s skull that grandpoppy prescott "hellbender" bush pilfered to fulfill his obligatory hazing graverobbing from the prairie grave of the intrepid stone killer of cavalry...so the implement of jesus´ gorey death on calvary would no doubt make a nice complement to their late nite rite paperweights collection
especially since the spear was noted to be abused by the emperor charlemagne...and bush, like all american presidents, is said to be descended from charlemagne
it is beyond weapons-grade ironic that longinus, who plunged the spear into the side of jesus, according to the legend, was a germanic mercenary hired into the roman legions
bush, whose familial name was changed from the german busch, is commander in chief of our sometimes mercenary armed forces
skull and bones is said to be descended from the bavarian illuminati, and was the driving force behind the development of the atomic bomb (the shoulder patch of the 501st nuclear bomber wing, the first of its kind, had a faux skull and bones made from a nuclear fallout blast cloud for a skull, and crossed runways for crossed bones)..."nukular", as bush would say, devices are talismen of evil on the order of the spear of longinus
hitler was funded into power by skull and bones financiers like prescott running a nazi bank
but skull and bones also got its start from taking over the opium running business of the british east indian company...the american flag is an adapted version of the company´s colors, with pentagrams substituted in for the double horizontal bared saint andrew´s crosses
so maybe the difference between the german and british fascist influences on our current brand of corporate government is just so much splitting of little bush hairs with the finely honed edge of the spear of longinus
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: Does the Chimp have the mystic spear of Longinus | Quote |
The spear is a fake. It has been proven to be a fake. everyone knows it´s a fake.
Just sayin. |
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TWIKI
12/8/2005 10:09 AM
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EK
"Thus the twerps have secrety-secret chiporee-chipmunk boy´s club meeteings, dress up in gestapo uniforms and prance around like Punch and Judy.."
Are you sure that you aren´t talking about you, and your ´lap dog´ supporters? It *sure* sounds like you are.
Anders
Not *one* word out of you. Go read that copy of the GLOBE, that you have; Maybe read about the woman in Podunk County, who just gave birth to a half-alien, half-Sasquatch baby, and named it ´William Jefferson Clinton II´. I´m sure that you´ll believe *every* word of it!
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Emperor Kenton
12/8/2005 10:09 AM
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Are you sure that you aren´t talking about you, and your ´lap dog´ supporters? It *sure* sounds like you are.
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All supporters, declare yourself Emperor too. The Chimp wants to play King, so we need 300 million Emperors to outrank his candy-ass.
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: Does the Chimp have the mystic spear of Longinus | Quote |
The elites don´t need any occult icons. They have ELF and scalar weaponry, HAARP, GWEN towers, the creeping threat of implants, and a very compliant MSM. The spear probably doesn´t add much to that array. |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: Does the Chimp have the mystic spear of Longinus | Quote |
Kenton are you fking with me? I just posted a thread about the spear about an hour ago. I was just sitting in front of my comp tonight and for no reason what so ever I started to think about the spear of destiny since I saw that movie Constantine the other day. I wasn´t even sure if it really existed. I must be psychic! When is that show on? This is too strange. |
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Gandharvas
12/8/2005 10:09 AM
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Emperor Kenton
12/8/2005 10:09 AM
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When is that show on? This is too strange
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Been repeated every other hour all day on Cable Discovery Times
Excellent deeply-researched presentation.
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cohort jester
12/8/2005 10:09 AM
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If everyone ignored everyone else, what a wonderful world it would be, especially if, and most importantly, we mostly ignored ourselves, thus in my book, ignorance is king.
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Emperor Kenton
12/8/2005 10:09 AM
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Here it is:
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Discovery Channel documentary called "Spear of Jesus". Their website says about it "In the (Click link for more info and facts about Hofburg) Hofburg Museum in (The capital and largest city of Austria; located on the Danube in northeastern Austria; was the home of Beethoven and Brahms and Haydn and Mozart and Schubert and Strauss) Vienna, (A mountainous republic in central Europe; under the Habsburgs (1278-1918) Austria maintained control of the Holy Roman Empire and was a leader in European politics until the 19th century) Austria, lies a metal spearhead said to have been used to pierce the side of Christ during his crucifixion. For the first time, scientific testing will establish if this ancient relic really is the (Click link for more info and facts about Spear of Christ) Spear of Christ." The scientific points made in this article are all also made in this documentary.
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Interdimensional warrior
12/8/2005 10:09 AM
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: Does the Chimp have the mystic spear of Longinus | Quote |
in a word,yes.
the SD were like the SS only worse and more Oh So Social. their cousins and social set were the US and British elites most prominent of which was british air marshall ELMHIRST, head of air intelligence and brother of another ELMHIRST married to American heiress DOROTHY PAYNE WHITNEY , widow of willard straight.
air marshall elmhirst arranged for some canadian subordinates to go "missing" , especially one "Karl Schmidt" aka george morrell.
the spear returned to vienna wa a perfect replica.
the spear and other loot-along with the worst criminals of the SD were moved first to toronto then chicago and other cities. they formed the hard core activists for reagans right wing revolution.
they believed that the "last plantagenet" could wield the power of the spear without bringing ultimate failure and disaster. they found this person and offered to make him figurehead president of US, and maybe a sort of king. the "last plantagenet" promptly responded (and i was there) , "I´m an american. we dont hold with that crap. get lost you filthy bloodsucking ghouls."
the ghouls never gave up trying to persuade and/or kill the last plantagenet.
ultimately, they had to settle for dubya for their figurehead
having failed with hitler,himmler,reagan.quayle, bush41.
and now the few surviving perps are very very old and power has passed to the next nazi generation- who are much much worse than the originals.
the above is a summary of much more data-all of which i am willing to repeat under oath, any time , any place.
mthinks maybe kenton has talked privately to kay griggs
kenneth b. thomas |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: Does the Chimp have the mystic spear of Longinus | Quote |
Actually, no, he does not.
It came quite by accident into my hands at the end of the Franco era in Spain. Early 1975 to be exact.
After wondering what to do with it for a few years, I took it to a local foundry where it was duly melted.
The melted remains now form part of the wrought iron that decorates the windows of the local unemployment office.
They are rusting. |
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Emperor Kenton
12/8/2005 10:09 AM
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Kenneth, thanks for your insight-- by the way haven´t talked one-to-one with Kay Griggs, just sorting this out-- and now with your help!
What do you mean by "SD"? Sicherheitsdienst? Correct?
Any more to help ID "Karl Schmidt" aka George Morrell?
Also any additional insight appreciated... such as the possible actual mystical aspect of the spear...
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kennnthomas
12/8/2005 10:09 AM
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glad to help, just wish i wasnt so old and tired.
i will have to pm you first so you can edit for your own self preservation; this could explode.
for now, what is so incredible to me , looking back, is that the longinus thing is the link between just about everything discussed on glp.
isaac valentine morrell, elgin illinois, uncle and dead ringer of george morrell. great uncle of david b and david s morrell (david b morrell is the author of "first blood" and many other bloody, warped dime novels)
Isaac Morrell was associate of thomas edison and a big,big politician named WILLIS EMERSON.
they were both associates of Ole Johnsson (aka Olaf Janssen)
whose youthful exploits were chronicled in emersons "the smokey god"
george morrell was father of david b and david s morrell. david s was born long after george was "missing"
beatrice markle morrell, georges wife was highly accomplished person and close associate of cyril fagan, of university of dublin
start googlin y´all
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: Does the Chimp have the mystic spear of Longinus | Quote |
mystic spear -----> ...like that of thunder?
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Adhyaya IV
Nada Yoga
1. Sound helps to control the mind easily. When the mind is absorbed in melodious sound, it does not run after sensual objects.
2. Do Japa or Soham with breath (Ajapa Japa). Practise Pranayama for one or two months. You will hear the ten sounds (Anahata sounds) clearly and enjoy the music of the soul.
3. The sound that you hear will make you deaf to all external sounds.
4. Sit on Padmasana or Siddhasana or Sukhasana. Close the ears with the thumb. This is Shanmukhi Mudra or Vaishnavi Mudra.
5. Now hear the music of Anahata sounds. You will have wonderful concentration.
6. Abandon all worldly thoughts. Subdue your passion. Become indifferent to all sensual objects.
7. Practise Yama (self-restraint), or Sadachara (right conduct); concentrate on the sound which annihilates the mind.
8. The first sound is chini, the second is chin-chini, the third is the sound of a bell, the fourth is like that of a conch.
9. The fifth is like that of a lute. The sixth is like that of a cymbal. The seventh is like that of a flute.
10. The eighth is like that of a drum. The ninth is like that of a Mridanga. The tenth is like that of thunder.
11. Hear the sounds through the right ear. Change your concentration from the gross sound to the subtle. The mind will soon be absorbed in the sound.
12. You will get knowledge of hidden things when you hear the seventh.
13. You will hear Para-Vak when you hear the eighth sound.
14. You will develop the divine eye when you hear the ninth.
15. You will attain Para Brahman when you hear the tenth.
16. The sound entraps the mind. The mind becomes one with the sound as milk with water.
17. It becomes absorbed in Brahman or the Absolute. You will then attain the Seat of Eternal Bliss.
THUS ENDS NADA YOGA |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: Does the Chimp have the mystic spear of Longinus | Quote |
Lets see...A mythical spear that poked the side of a mythical son of god...And then was owned by the Nazis...
Good one...Sounds like another great Indianna Jones epic...
But I think I´ll wait for the movie... |
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idol harobed
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