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Hello all,

I started getting into politics about 4 yrs ago, I always thought i was a democrat until i actually started paying attention. then i went through i quick phase were i thought maybe i agree more with repubs, of course that association didnt last long.

It became more and more apparent that no matter which party was in charge, they didnt have the average persons best interest in mind. so that kind of pushed me to research the nwo, it made sense to me for the most part, there are factions of the nwo that are undeniable IMO. its obvious large banks and corporations buy politicians, and that the presidency is a puppet post, regardless of which party is in the white house.
I had high hopes for obama, he spoke as if he would stand up to injustice and to wall street, and the fed. Now that he has had a few yrs in the white house and ive watched what he has done as apposed to what he said campaigning, he is either a huge liar, or when he became president they made sure he realized he wouldnt be making any of the important decisions.

Now to my question. Like i said the NWO is undeniable to an extent, but it also seems us average people and even people who make a living researching and reporting the nwo have trouble completely identifying who is at the top. Ive heard the big banks, the tri lateral commission, council on foreign relations, the bilderberg group, the illuminati, certain bloodlines, certain powerful families, and even reptillians.

So i would just like to hear your take on who you honestly think is in control of this push for a world order and why you think it is who you think it is.

thank you.
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I thimk there are several identifiable factions under the 'NWO' heading:-

The Vatican/pagan roman cult under the jesuits

The CFR/RIIA/Club of Rome crowd

The corporate 'rich kids'

The mahdi/caliphate/islamic crowd

The THULE/VRIL nazi crowd (Germany/USA)

There is a lot of commonality between these criminal groups and considerable interaction, but they are above the law and their main concern however is to protect themselves at all costs, they are nor brave men (or women) just richer and more powerful (evil) than we can imagine....

The objective is to recreate a feudal society of slaves and slave owners where you and I (if we survive the culling) are the slaves
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I'm really interested in this. It's sort of the whole game on a plate. Surely someone here has an idea?

It's no use discussing Bilderberg, Bankers etc. IMO.
Surely we're talking blood? Templar blood lines? It can't be Rotschild(new). One lame rumour has it that 7 people run the world.
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I thimk there are several identifiable factions under the 'NWO' heading:-

The Vatican/pagan roman cult under the jesuits

The CFR/RIIA/Club of Rome crowd

The corporate 'rich kids'

The mahdi/caliphate/islamic crowd

The THULE/VRIL nazi crowd (Germany/USA)

There is a lot of commonality between these criminal groups and considerable interaction, but they are above the law and their main concern however is to protect themselves at all costs, they are nor brave men (or women) just richer and more powerful (evil) than we can imagine....

The objective is to recreate a feudal society of slaves and slave owners where you and I (if we survive the culling) are the slaves
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So do you think since they have a common goal of world government/order that those different factions kind of work together, until they reach their common goal, then their differences will divide them into a war of the elite?
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Honestly....it is more than likely all of the above.....and ONE thing in common: Lucifer

satan rules the Earth, and these NWO people are just preparring for his arrival, they have used EVERYTHING in their power to draw people AWAY from God's word, through media, tv, music, art and what we see as culteral.

I'm not trying to come off as a bibletard.....just look at the facts.

Everyday we see how men are now weaker than women (against God's word)

That it is ok to be a homosexual (against God's word)

You can't mention Christ in ANYTHING anymore (against again)

You can't even discipline your children anymore without being accused off abuse.

The NWO is controlling what the masses think & turning neighbor against neighbor and telling them to 'go to the gov' for help, instead of working things out in a mature way, thus resulting in someones life getting ruined.

This is what Hitler did, the first attempt of the NWO, and it is happening now.....the reigns are tightening and soon it will be.

But as citizens, humans, neighbors....we can at least stand together & help one another......because united we stand, divided we fall.....AS CITIZENS, not the gov.....they want us separated.
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Some of the groups are incompatible, others may be different heads of the same hydra. It is difficult to predict what accomodations they will make, however, I am pretty sure that personal vanity will cause a lot of friction betweem them and that is their main internal weakness.

They are all however utterly ruthless, and for them "the end justifies the means" (as long as it does not put them (or their wealth/elitism) in personal danger)

I suspect they do not particularly care who is "top dog" as long as they have their personal share of the action....

Islam may be the odd man out here, islamic eschatology is of world domination under allah/mohammed/koran/sharia aka the Islamic elite, they might have trouble with compatibility with the other elites, but the Saudi royal family appear to have been able to get around that, but I am not sure of the shias of Iran.....
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Honestly....it is more than likely all of the above.....and ONE thing in common: Lucifer

satan rules the Earth, and these NWO people are just preparring for his arrival, they have used EVERYTHING in their power to draw people AWAY from God's word, through media, tv, music, art and what we see as culteral.

I'm not trying to come off as a bibletard.....just look at the facts.

Everyday we see how men are now weaker than women (against God's word)

That it is ok to be a homosexual (against God's word)

You can't mention Christ in ANYTHING anymore (against again)

You can't even discipline your children anymore without being accused off abuse.

The NWO is controlling what the masses think & turning neighbor against neighbor and telling them to 'go to the gov' for help, instead of working things out in a mature way, thus resulting in someones life getting ruined.

This is what Hitler did, the first attempt of the NWO, and it is happening now.....the reigns are tightening and soon it will be.

But as citizens, humans, neighbors....we can at least stand together & help one another......because united we stand, divided we fall.....AS CITIZENS, not the gov.....they want us separated.
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Thanks for the reply. So does that mean in your opinion, there really isnt an endgame plan to the nwo, just preping for the end times and ushering in the antichrist? by dropping our overall morality, and civility.
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Some of the groups are incompatible, others may be different heads of the same hydra. It is difficult to predict what accomodations they will make, however, I am pretty sure that personal vanity will cause a lot of friction betweem them and that is their main internal weakness.

They are all however utterly ruthless, and for them "the end justifies the means" (as long as it does not put them (or their wealth/elitism) in personal danger)

I suspect they do not particularly care who is "top dog" as long as they have their personal share of the action....

Islam may be the odd man out here, islamic eschatology is of world domination under allah/mohammed/koran/sharia aka the Islamic elite, they might have trouble with compatibility with the other elites, but the Saudi royal family appear to have been able to get around that, but I am not sure of the shias of Iran.....
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That is well said, at this point i tend to lean that direction also, but im open to learning more and with more education could come a different perspective
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The Upper Class is on top:

Along political lines we live in a world divided into three major groups, Capitalism, Socialism, and Communism. Each of those political groupings exist purely as an opposing force to the others. The idea, of course, is divide and conquer. As long as the working classes, slaves, are divided against each other they don't notice who the real enemy is, those that benefit the most from the working classes labors, the Upper Class.

The lower classes are divided by more than just political lines, you'll notice the divisions go into religions, races, sexes, nations, states, corporations, secret societies, etc... A house divided against itself cannot stand. The members of the upper class work together against the lower classes that are divided against themselves, because of this the upper class has completely conquered the middle and lower class. The upper classes domination of the lower classes was solidified quite some time ago, everything over the last thousand years or so has been nothing more than maintaining their dominance. Less than 1% of the worlds population holds somewhere around 98% of the worlds wealth. For every dollar a mid to low class citizen makes an upper class citizen makes two or more. The upper class, or aristocracy, own all of the media conglomerates, all of the corporations, all of the land and all of the people.

From here on out I will be referring to the upper class as the aristocracy because that's exactly what they are. Something around less than 2% of the aristocracy made it to that level through work. The rest of them were born into their wealth and their family lineages date back to aristocracies, kings and nobles from even before the Roman Empire. One of the biggest secrets today is that monarchies never actually died out, their method of rule only changed it's appearance. You'll note for instance that although a king of France may have been overthrown, his family and wealth remained intact.

Monarchies supposedly died out because people began to wise up to the fact that 'birth right' had nothing to do with ones actual ability to govern a population. The problem is that the working classes never actually overthrew the idea of 'birth right' they only thought they did. Today the aristocracy rules populations with perceived elections. The key here is that the election itself is actually legit, the people really do vote and those votes really are counted. However; how the people decide who to vote for is important. It is well documented that whichever candidate has the most campaign funds is going to win the election. Some candidates do get a small amount of money donated from the populace, but the vast amount of their campaign funds come from the aristocracy.

Now the aristocracy does so in a 'laundered' fashion this is by channeling their 'donations' through intermediaries so that the source of the donation is concealed. You won't ever see one single wealthy person donate a billion dollars to one candidate or party, however; you might find that one wealthy person owns 36 different companies and each of those companies donated individually. Moreover you'll find that the aristocracy owns every single media organization so in addition to campaign funding they dictate who gets the most or the best press coverage from news papers/web-sites to magazines and TV news stations.

A president, prime minister, chancellor or otherwise figure head is often perceived by his citizens as being the most powerful person in his respective country. This assumption couldn't be farther from the truth. This person has literally zero power, zero decision making capability, he's more of a public relations representative or a segue between the aristocracy and the lower classes. It might appear that a president, being as he is perceived by the masses as more than a figure head, would have the capability to take things into his own hands, perhaps even try and let the public in on the truth. Unfortunately this is not the case, JFK need I say more?

I will say more though. These people are threatened with more than death, in fact a fate worse than death. Once again the aristocracy owns all of the media conglomerates, they have the public's ear, if a president ever decides to go against the program he is simply demonized, lambasted, discredited in the various news agencies. In turn this president is hated by his friends, family, citizens, he is cast out in defamation. For clarification purposes I'll state that it might appear as though a president, chancellor, prime minister or otherwise figure head is a member of the aristocracy, but in fact they are more of an upper middle class citizen, they are a part of the program just as any other citizen.

So how exactly did this aristocracy survive centuries of public revolt and revolutions? You're gonna kick yourself because it's quite simple really. The innocuous key is called Market Research. Right in your face and certainly seems innocent enough doesn't it? Not if your asking the right questions. These important questions are usually buried in a sea of other interesting, but rather useless questions. Public sentiment is what they're truly after. First take note that media and market research have been around for a very long time, you might not be aware of that, but just try and remember how gossip appears to be a rather natural human tendency.

Governments are always tyrannical, it's just that early in said governments life the citizens are not fed up with it yet, populations seem to be able to take quite a bit of punishment before they finally get off their butts and do something about it. What ends up happening is that the aristocracy uses their market research to determine when, in the future, a population will be ready to rebel against it's government. This is quite simple, you might take a survey and decide that 3% of a population is unruly and ready to support a rebellion, not enough to move a revolution. The next year the aristocracy might find that 4.5% is ready for revolution and the year after that perhaps 8%. Using mathematics the aristocracy is able to project that at this rate of growth the population will be fully ready for revolution in 15 years.

Here's the kicker, they kick off the revolution EARLY! Once a population arrives at the point where a majority of them are ready for a revolution they only thing remaining is a charismatic character to rally the people and lead the revolution. So a few years early the aristocracy place their own hired agents into the population to be the leaders of the revolution. They give these agents just the right amount of press and publicity and make it seem as though this character is working against the government, which technically he is working against the government, but not against the aristocracy that the people never knew were the real government in the first place. Once the government is overthrown this charismatic character, or someone from his entourage is elected the leader of the new government.

Here's the problem for the citizens, what they don't know is that they just elected a secret agent working for their hidden enemy the aristocracy. As the new leader this agent enacts new laws and regulations that have hidden loopholes that only the aristocracy know of or can take advantage of. This new leader purposefully sets up the new government to be just as appealing to the aristocracy as the previous government. The citizens, however; think they have overthrown the tyrants and now have a wonderful new government and so they have been appeased. This new government generally starts out all sugar and spice, but slowly becomes more and more tyrannical until finally the population is ready for another revolution and the whole system restarts yet again.

This method of resetting governmental control ensuring the aristocracies place at the top has been utilized for a great deal of time, dating back before the Roman Empire.

Notice that NWO is the word own backwards and it is the upper class that own everything, including you. The idea that there is a group of people trying to establish rule over the world was placed into conspiracy groups by those that already control the world. You see, as long as you think someone is trying to take over the world you don’t realize that someone already has.
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The Upper Class is on top:

Along political lines we live in a world divided into three major groups, Capitalism, Socialism, and Communism. Each of those political groupings exist purely as an opposing force to the others. The idea, of course, is divide and conquer. As long as the working classes, slaves, are divided against each other they don't notice who the real enemy is, those that benefit the most from the working classes labors, the Upper Class.

The lower classes are divided by more than just political lines, you'll notice the divisions go into religions, races, sexes, nations, states, corporations, secret societies, etc... A house divided against itself cannot stand. The members of the upper class work together against the lower classes that are divided against themselves, because of this the upper class has completely conquered the middle and lower class. The upper classes domination of the lower classes was solidified quite some time ago, everything over the last thousand years or so has been nothing more than maintaining their dominance. Less than 1% of the worlds population holds somewhere around 98% of the worlds wealth. For every dollar a mid to low class citizen makes an upper class citizen makes two or more. The upper class, or aristocracy, own all of the media conglomerates, all of the corporations, all of the land and all of the people.

From here on out I will be referring to the upper class as the aristocracy because that's exactly what they are. Something around less than 2% of the aristocracy made it to that level through work. The rest of them were born into their wealth and their family lineages date back to aristocracies, kings and nobles from even before the Roman Empire. One of the biggest secrets today is that monarchies never actually died out, their method of rule only changed it's appearance. You'll note for instance that although a king of France may have been overthrown, his family and wealth remained intact.

Monarchies supposedly died out because people began to wise up to the fact that 'birth right' had nothing to do with ones actual ability to govern a population. The problem is that the working classes never actually overthrew the idea of 'birth right' they only thought they did. Today the aristocracy rules populations with perceived elections. The key here is that the election itself is actually legit, the people really do vote and those votes really are counted. However; how the people decide who to vote for is important. It is well documented that whichever candidate has the most campaign funds is going to win the election. Some candidates do get a small amount of money donated from the populace, but the vast amount of their campaign funds come from the aristocracy.

Now the aristocracy does so in a 'laundered' fashion this is by channeling their 'donations' through intermediaries so that the source of the donation is concealed. You won't ever see one single wealthy person donate a billion dollars to one candidate or party, however; you might find that one wealthy person owns 36 different companies and each of those companies donated individually. Moreover you'll find that the aristocracy owns every single media organization so in addition to campaign funding they dictate who gets the most or the best press coverage from news papers/web-sites to magazines and TV news stations.

A president, prime minister, chancellor or otherwise figure head is often perceived by his citizens as being the most powerful person in his respective country. This assumption couldn't be farther from the truth. This person has literally zero power, zero decision making capability, he's more of a public relations representative or a segue between the aristocracy and the lower classes. It might appear that a president, being as he is perceived by the masses as more than a figure head, would have the capability to take things into his own hands, perhaps even try and let the public in on the truth. Unfortunately this is not the case, JFK need I say more?

I will say more though. These people are threatened with more than death, in fact a fate worse than death. Once again the aristocracy owns all of the media conglomerates, they have the public's ear, if a president ever decides to go against the program he is simply demonized, lambasted, discredited in the various news agencies. In turn this president is hated by his friends, family, citizens, he is cast out in defamation. For clarification purposes I'll state that it might appear as though a president, chancellor, prime minister or otherwise figure head is a member of the aristocracy, but in fact they are more of an upper middle class citizen, they are a part of the program just as any other citizen.

So how exactly did this aristocracy survive centuries of public revolt and revolutions? You're gonna kick yourself because it's quite simple really. The innocuous key is called Market Research. Right in your face and certainly seems innocent enough doesn't it? Not if your asking the right questions. These important questions are usually buried in a sea of other interesting, but rather useless questions. Public sentiment is what they're truly after. First take note that media and market research have been around for a very long time, you might not be aware of that, but just try and remember how gossip appears to be a rather natural human tendency.

Governments are always tyrannical, it's just that early in said governments life the citizens are not fed up with it yet, populations seem to be able to take quite a bit of punishment before they finally get off their butts and do something about it. What ends up happening is that the aristocracy uses their market research to determine when, in the future, a population will be ready to rebel against it's government. This is quite simple, you might take a survey and decide that 3% of a population is unruly and ready to support a rebellion, not enough to move a revolution. The next year the aristocracy might find that 4.5% is ready for revolution and the year after that perhaps 8%. Using mathematics the aristocracy is able to project that at this rate of growth the population will be fully ready for revolution in 15 years.

Here's the kicker, they kick off the revolution EARLY! Once a population arrives at the point where a majority of them are ready for a revolution they only thing remaining is a charismatic character to rally the people and lead the revolution. So a few years early the aristocracy place their own hired agents into the population to be the leaders of the revolution. They give these agents just the right amount of press and publicity and make it seem as though this character is working against the government, which technically he is working against the government, but not against the aristocracy that the people never knew were the real government in the first place. Once the government is overthrown this charismatic character, or someone from his entourage is elected the leader of the new government.

Here's the problem for the citizens, what they don't know is that they just elected a secret agent working for their hidden enemy the aristocracy. As the new leader this agent enacts new laws and regulations that have hidden loopholes that only the aristocracy know of or can take advantage of. This new leader purposefully sets up the new government to be just as appealing to the aristocracy as the previous government. The citizens, however; think they have overthrown the tyrants and now have a wonderful new government and so they have been appeased. This new government generally starts out all sugar and spice, but slowly becomes more and more tyrannical until finally the population is ready for another revolution and the whole system restarts yet again.

This method of resetting governmental control ensuring the aristocracies place at the top has been utilized for a great deal of time, dating back before the Roman Empire.

Notice that NWO is the word own backwards and it is the upper class that own everything, including you. The idea that there is a group of people trying to establish rule over the world was placed into conspiracy groups by those that already control the world. You see, as long as you think someone is trying to take over the world you don’t realize that someone already has.
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thanks for your reply. you have a lot of good points, and it was very informative.
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