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Christians should be called Paulians instead, because most follow Paul not Jesus........

 
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AlasBabylon-

What do you think of hitler?


 Quoting: Adam 1261802



Hitler was an Aryan hero.

He gave sanctuary to White/Tsarist Russians
who had escaped the murdering jew-bolsheviks.

He arranged for the White/Tsarist diaspora to
build a Russian Orthodox Church in Berlin...
at a time churches were being destroyed and
Christians murdered in jew-bolshevik occupied
Russia.


Hitler's army liberated Christian people from
the murdering antichrist enemy. Orthodox priests
traveled with the German army to rebuild churches
and baptize Christians in German liberated Russian lands.
Westerners joined with the antichrist jew-bolsheviks
to destroy the one man who was able... and willing...
to liberate Russia from the satanic jew-bolsheviks.

I honor Hitler and His courageous German sword who
tried to liberate Holy Mother Russia and Europe
from the antichrist Edomite-jew synagogue of satan.




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 Quoting: AlasBabylon


Your theology is so flawed man. Give it up. Trust in God not your skin color. Hitler was a dupe of the NWO. Do you know he was financed by the big banks? Did you know that Hitler conducted a false flag operation on his own people. Research the Reichstag Fire. Do you see what I'm saying when I say Christian Zionism & Christian Arianism are the two-sides of the same coin? They are played off of each other. Both are false because they enslave the minds of men. God doesn't need white people just as God doesn't need the nation-state of Israel today. These ideologies are false and the world is enslaved. The Devil will continue to manipulate and ensnare the minds of men. The true God is all powerful and he is able to utterly save all that come to Him. It is a dangerous thing to be tied to any theology of hate and racial superiority because this is a false doctrine no matter what the side.

Read:
Deuteronomy 10:17-20, II Chronicles 19:7, Job 34:19, Acts 10:34-38, Romans 2:11, Galatians 2:6, Ephesians 6:8, Colossians 3:25, 1 Peter 1:17
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OP you are very correct. Paul was not a follower of Jesus Christ Michael, He was the one that gave Jesus that name, his true name was Esu Immanuel.
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Paul met with the other apostles at the first council of Jerusalem as described in Acts, written by Luke

Peter said read Paul -- difficult to understand, and often twisted by those who are unlearned, to their own destruction

2 peter 3:16

"As also in all [his] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as [they do] also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction."

there are Bible verses to counter every false teaching such as the ops here. I encourage everyone -- read the Bible yourself, learn the true And it's easy to spot the counterfeit


ps op yer a nut

love rb
 Quoting: rb 1298792



2 Peter is a later Christian forgery - Peter didn't write it - it's fiction, a lie
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson

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Paul also said that all the churches in Asia had turned against him - the very same churches which are addressed in Revelations and were commended for trying those that said they were Apostles and found them to be liars.
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson

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Paul met with the other apostles at the first council of Jerusalem as described in Acts, written by Luke

Peter said read Paul -- difficult to understand, and often twisted by those who are unlearned, to their own destruction

2 peter 3:16

"As also in all [his] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as [they do] also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction."

there are Bible verses to counter every false teaching such as the ops here. I encourage everyone -- read the Bible yourself, learn the true And it's easy to spot the counterfeit


ps op yer a nut

love rb
 Quoting: rb 1298792



2 Peter is a later Christian forgery - Peter didn't write it - it's fiction, a lie
 Quoting: Da Purple Chicken


Yeah in the original post i said, use word of JESUS to prove you follow him, and everyone keeps putting up other verses by Paul and others of the like. WORDS OF JESUS people.
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"Jesus said He came ONLY to the lost sheep of Israel."

I've always wondered about this, wouldn't the lost sheep be the lost tribes of Israel? Meaning all the tribes except Judah and Benjamin? Meaning not the Jews?

Did Jesus already knew that His message was not gonna be accepted by Jews? And does that mean Europe is composed of the lost tribes of Israel?
 Quoting: Coelbren


Well, I think the lost sheep of Israel were the ones he was trying to change. He was trying to tell them they didn't have to be so strict in adhering with the laws of the past, especially the laws of sacrificing animals to god. The lost sheep of israel were the ones in israel at the time. That is why Jesus was sent there at the time, to change their minds and help them to grow spiritually.
Life without learning is like a flower without scent.
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Romans 16:
7Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellow-prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.

Titus 1:
1Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;
2In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;
3But hath in due times manifested his word through preaching, which is committed unto me according to the commandment of God our Saviour;
4To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour.


Galatians 1:
1Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)
2And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia
:
3Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,
4Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:
5To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
6I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
10For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
11But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.


1 Corinthians 9:

1Am I am not an apostle? am I not free? have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord? are not ye my work in the Lord?
2If I be not an apostle unto others, yet doubtless I am to you: for the seal of mine apostleship are ye in the Lord.

3Mine answer to them that do examine me is this,
4Have we not power to eat and to drink?
5Have we not power to lead about a sister, a wife, as well as other apostles, and as the brethren of the Lord, and Cephas?


1 Corinthians 9
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Luke 11:
49Therefore also said the wisdom of God, I will send them prophets and apostles, and some of them they shall slay and persecute:
50That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation
;
51From the blood of Abel unto the blood of Zacharias which perished between the altar and the temple: verily I say unto you, It shall be required of this generation.

Romans 1:
1Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,
2(Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,)
3Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
4And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
5By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:
6Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ
:
7To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
 Quoting: TheHungerSite.com


Um Hungersite, why did you post everything written by Paul or his followers??? I said if you post ANYTHING written by Paul it is INVALID. Post something with Jesus' words about your beliefs, not Paul. Don't you understand what I've been talking about yet??????
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To read the scriptures in your own language see holybiblefoundation.org. They have bibles in dozens of languages for FREE download. The Gospel of John is a good place to start. See for yourself what God has to say.
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To read the scriptures in your own language see holybiblefoundation.org. They have bibles in dozens of languages for FREE download. The Gospel of John is a good place to start. See for yourself what God has to say.
 Quoting: James 965043



If you want to know what G-d has to say, start with Exodus.
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

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or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

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"Jesus said He came ONLY to the lost sheep of Israel."

I've always wondered about this, wouldn't the lost sheep be the lost tribes of Israel? Meaning all the tribes except Judah and Benjamin? Meaning not the Jews?

Did Jesus already knew that His message was not gonna be accepted by Jews? And does that mean Europe is composed of the lost tribes of Israel?
 Quoting: Coelbren


Well, I think the lost sheep of Israel were the ones he was trying to change. He was trying to tell them they didn't have to be so strict in adhering with the laws of the past, especially the laws of sacrificing animals to god. The lost sheep of israel were the ones in israel at the time. That is why Jesus was sent there at the time, to change their minds and help them to grow spiritually.
 Quoting: VivianV


That's one interpretation, but it could also mean he was sent to the lost tribes, i.e not the Judahites, Benjaminites or Levites but the rest of Israel who were dispersed and were the ones who actually ended up accepting His message.

I am not saying He meant that, but it could be a possibility. I always believed that some of the tribes actually came to Europe. The whole thing about the tribe of Dan being in Denmark and Britain, and Joseph of Arimathea building Glastonbury surely hold something true to it.
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Everybody tries to find a nitch in doctrine that they can use as an excuse of believing that their version of Christianity is more superior than the rest. This is a control device from you know who.

This is the apex of petty bickering that Paul had to deal with in Corinth. Some say they are of appollos, some of Paul, still others of Christ...all volleying for position.

Then to parade such bickering in front of sinners, is the greatest charge against you of all. You are carnal and not spiritual, you are cursed to feed continually on milk and not meat. You are as far as you can go spiritually as a Christian, always carnal, always petty, always small.
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Why do Christians follow a testament written mostly by a man who NEVER met Jesus.....?

Paul was not a disciple, he was a self-appointed apostle who NEVER met Jesus, yet 13 out of 27 books of the New Testament were written by him.

Did God want you to follow this man instead of Jesus' words??

He is a trickster and is why most of you Paul-ians/christ-ians are still really confused. All the quotes you give me as rebuttals are Paul-ian not Christ-ian.

You better have some good points to make on here, because if you quote Paul, it is invalid, so do some research and don't quote that charlatan to me.
He declared himself an apostle in HIS OWN WRITINGS>>>>wiki wiki

In his writings, Paul, though not one of the original twelve, described himself as an apostle, one "born out of time" (e.g., Romans 1:1 and other letters). However, he was not called or appointed "apostle" by the resurrected Jesus himself during his Road to Damascus vision.[Acts 9:1-9] Rather, with Barnabas, he was allotted this role in the church.[Acts 13:2] He referred to himself as the Apostle to the Gentiles.[Rom 11:13] [Gal 2:8] He also described some of his companions as being called of the Lord as apostles (Barnabas, Silas, Apollos, Andronicus and Junia). As the Catholic Encyclopedia states, "It is at once evident that in a Christian sense, everyone who had received a mission from God, or Christ, to man could be called 'Apostle'"; thus extending the original sense beyond the twelve. Since Paul claimed to have received the gospel through a revelation of Jesus Christ[22] after the latter's death and resurrection (rather than before like the twelve), he was often obliged to defend his apostolic authority (1 Cor. 9:1 "Am I not an apostle?") and proclaim that he had seen and was anointed by Jesus while on the road to Damascus; but James, Peter and John in Jerusalem accepted his calling to the apostleship from the Lord to the Gentiles (specifically those not circumcised) as of equal authority as Peter's to the Jews (specifically those circumcised) according to Paul.[Gal 2:7-9] "James, Peter and John, those reputed to be pillars … agreed that we [Paul and Barnabas] should go to the Gentiles, and they to the Jews."[Gal 2:9] Paul, despite his divine calling as an apostle, considered himself perhaps inferior to the other Apostles because he had originally persecuted Christ's followers.[1 Cor. 15:9]

The original 12 :::::

Simon Peter.
Andrew his brother.
James son of Zebedee.
John his brother.

Philip.
Bartholomew.
Thomas.
Matthew.

James son of Alphaeus.
Thaddeus.
Simon the Cananean.
Judas Iscariot.


Now what? Will you change your names to Paulian instead now please and stop giving Jesus a bad and closed-minded name...???????

 Quoting: VivianV



OP, by what authority do you speak? There's no YAH lingo in your OP, are you Messianic?

You're still Protestant. Messianics are Protestant.

You deny Paul being an Apostle because his words in the Gospel, they are too hard for you to accept.
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As an atheist i find this thread both interesting and hilarious.

As a master of ancient history, i agree with vivvian's assesment of things. Jesus and Paul never met. Just like Jesus and Bar'Kochba never met. There's a name for you jews who worship on sunday(christians) should know. Shimon Bar'Kochba.

You know why you worship on sunday? Because regular mass was held on friday night and saturday morning, but you clowns made it too crowded, so we shared the temples with you and gave you sunday for your new sabbath. Oy.

I find it very funny that you paulians are attacking someone who clearly has a real grasp of the historical context of your the new testament.

Your lot always stone the wise first.
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Heh, had this argument at work today. I said "Forget Paul, just go to the Source". She said "But that means dumping 2/3 of the New Testament!". Then I called him a petty little frightened Tory, and spat in the spittoon in disgust.

And I'm not even religious.
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GOD made his world and all that is in it. When HE can do this, I believe that HE can also keep HIS WORD in truth. Not one jot or tittle will be removed. GOD can not lie! GOD is truth and every man a liar.
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He's the Antichrist!!!111!!1!
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In Gal 3 Paul appears to contradicts Yehushua (Jesus), Yehushua kept TORAH, Paul implied that TORAH is bondage, and that we are set free from the 'Law'

However the Greek word 'nomos' is vague, It can mean

1. Law of the land
2. Tradition and custom
3. the Law of the gods
4. Torah (from the septuagint)

In most cases it is clear from the context what law is implied, unfortunately, this is not so with Galations and as a result 'christianity' has thrown away Torah as 'bondage' whereas the contextual likelihood is that Paul was talking about 'Talmud' (the tradition of the elders) if this is so then Paul comes into line with Yehushua.

Yehushua is the fulfilment of TORAH and indeed fulfilled the first four "feasts of YHWH" leaving the other 3 feasts to be fulfilled in the second coming.

Unfortunately the greek word 'ekklesia' has also been butchered into 'church'. It actually means 'called out assembly' and is a direct translation of the Hebrew 'Miqra' and refers to the feasts of YHWH (the moed miqra).

Constantine did not like Jews, so when he built Christianity he dropped most of TORAH and the feasts of YHWH and brought in the pagan feasts of winter solstice (christmas) and easter (Ishtar)

www.thewaytoyahuweh.com/pdf/pages/The_Great_Galatians_Debate.​pdf
Seek FIRST the Kingdom of YHWH and His knowledge of Good and Bad (righteousness) , for He says "My ways are not thy ways"
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If the above link does not work try this one

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Seek FIRST the Kingdom of YHWH and His knowledge of Good and Bad (righteousness) , for He says "My ways are not thy ways"
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Not only is it Paul, but most of it was thrown together centuries later by a Church with political interests.. That's pretty well known, so why are people still latching on to that particular book?
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If you are talking about the New Testament then yes the compilation happened later. Howevr Torah, prophets and Psalms were written and compiled somewhat earlier. The scriptures referred to in the NT are of course the Old Testament scriptures (the NT was not written!)
Seek FIRST the Kingdom of YHWH and His knowledge of Good and Bad (righteousness) , for He says "My ways are not thy ways"
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Everybody tries to find a nitch in doctrine that they can use as an excuse of believing that their version of Christianity is more superior than the rest. This is a control device from you know who.

This is the apex of petty bickering that Paul had to deal with in Corinth. Some say they are of appollos, some of Paul, still others of Christ...all volleying for position.

Then to parade such bickering in front of sinners, is the greatest charge against you of all. You are carnal and not spiritual, you are cursed to feed continually on milk and not meat. You are as far as you can go spiritually as a Christian, always carnal, always petty, always small.
 Quoting: Wingedlion


Ah I see the deluded Windedlion has shown up to give his 2 cents. (Everyone is deceived but him of course)

I truly hope you wake up one day. I will warn you, when you do you are going to truly feel stupid.
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This thread has spurred my interest in the debate, so I went looking. I find that an anti-Pauline stance is not uncommon and for me, my position is somewhere between that held by Nietzsche and Russell, and Leo Tolstoy.

Here [link to en.wikipedia.org] is a good place to start.
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You are totally right! Jesus kept telling people to follow Him and do what He says, and they Paul went and made new rules for everyone!
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This thread has spurred my interest in the debate, so I went looking. I find that an anti-Pauline stance is not uncommon and for me, my position is somewhere between that held by Nietzsche and Russell, and Leo Tolstoy.

Here [link to en.wikipedia.org] is a good place to start.
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Thanks for that link.My mind keeps coming back to this discussion and I found this on YT.I had no idea as many people felt this way.One of the main reasons I started looking further years ago.
This is in 3 parts and you have to read it,thelast part mainly deals with Paul and she has a 2 part series about Paul on her channel.


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Bottom line, this foolish thread. Pure pride to say you
know better than the first Christians, they got it wrong,
Paul did not have a miraculous conversion.

It stems from denying Jesus' presence in the Holy Eucharist.
You can't reconcile Scripture. Paul was the first to use
the term Eucharist in 1Corninthians 11:24. And Paul told
the people of the time if you deny the bread is the body of
Our Lord you bring judgment on yourself in 1Corinthians 11:29.

1 Corinthians was prophetic about a certain group today.

Protestants and non-Christians and atheists.

It's going to take a divine intervention again, as happened to Paul. This "awakening" is coming very soon for the entire world.
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The further one gets from the Truth or the Light the dimmer it seems to get.

The Way to the Truth is via the 4 Gospels or "Good News" which is the Philosophy of Jesus of Nazareth aka Jesus Christ. These 4 books about 120 pages total are the complete message, philosophy and happenings in the life of Jesus. They are told by 4 different friend of Jesus, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. They traveled with him, they were hand picked by him for their jobs.

All of these Gospels are free at E-Sword.com along with commentaries.

You have good threads and comments, interesting.
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Thanks, I know the Bible pretty well. I've been studying/seeking within it for 20 years ++. The 4 Gospels I am totally fine with and I love the stories and words of Jesus. What I'm trying to say is for people to stop quoting Paul and thinking it's Jesus' words. That is all.
 Quoting: VivianV


Well, God wrote Genesis through Moses. Are you going to say those aren't God's words because Moses wrote them?

This is the same thing as Jesus using Paul to write books of the bible as well. Paul may not have known Jesus but Jesus still used him.

Paul didn't write anything that goes against Jesus and his teachings.
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Re: Christians should be called Paulians instead, because most follow Paul not Jesus........
Paul was the most persecuted of all the apostles. He suffered more for Christ than anyone. His persecutors were often fellow Christians, seemingly. It is not surprising that nearly 2,000 years later so-called Christians are still dissing him.
 Quoting: e-watchman


Yes, Paul is still being persecuted.
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Re: Christians should be called Paulians instead, because most follow Paul not Jesus........
You are totally right! Jesus kept telling people to follow Him and do what He says, and they Paul went and made new rules for everyone!
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What new rules are you talking about? Give examples.

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