2,000 Y/O "Booklet" Has The First Ever Portrait Of Jesus??

How do you know?

You will have to live with that comment for whats left of your life.

Too bad those dummies couldn't have invented cameras back then cause we wouldn't have all these unanswered questions we have now.

Yep... I think the influence in the early Christian days of the Roman elite has been downplayed.

It's entirely possible there was a "third group" operating within the ranks of Roman society that saw the early Christian groups as a perfect opportunity to enact their agenda.

The Bible specifically states that the coming Messiah would be Unfortunate looking, so that people would not be attracted to him. The bible also says "does not even nature show you that long hair is unnatural for a man?"

Just saying. For the record



Now here's my question. Poeple have no clue what these tablets say, yet they are already shouting from the rooftops that they have debunked Christianity as we know it

Those funny atheists.. what will they think of next

These "discoveries" are suspect.
I do not trust them.
THey are so easily created and made to look aged.
Sorry thing is that this bolsters the faith of the already deceived.
All Religion is a HOAX.
It keeps you giving away your power to someone/something else. Energy flows to where the attention goes.

Maybe they are curse tablets, as they were made of lead.

Long hair unnatural for a man?
WHy?
The Male of all mammal species is endowed with a luxurious coat of hair. THe females have less. Look around.
The Lion for instance.

"Looks can be decieving".....I hear the Antichrist is quite stunning?

If they are genuine they could bolster that Christianity is true.

Dang that looks old.

hmmmm, didnt they rip his beard out while he was being beaten and having the crown of thorns kicked into his brow?

You see Jesus...I see a lion.

Still have yet to meet a strong minded Christian.

Anything "extrabiblical" is adding unto it.

The "only" true word of God is in the orgional languages.The closest is the KJV,but yet they added throughout the text.It is not the "book" that is "holy",it is the words that are written therein the orgional text.

Jesus was not neccessarily ugly but he wasnt good looking either, there wasnt anything about his appearance to appeal to anyone.

this is interesting
but how did they weld those lines 2000 years ago?

has it been dated yet officially?

and i cant wait for the interpretations

anyone here speak ancient hebrew?

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God is fully aware of any/all changes that 'man' made to His Holy Word...the message STILL shines through! Don't empower the 'author of confusion' by diluting God's Word with speculation of 'tampering'...remember WHO is in charge, here!

(Isaiah 53:2)... “He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to Him,
nothing in His appearance that we should desire Him.”...
This tells us that on the outside - the appearance of Jesus was
just like any other man - ordinary looking.

1 Corinthians11:14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him? .. He probably had short hair, because he would obey his own word.

Revelation 1:14-17... tells us what he will look like when he returns, not as he was.

I just posted about these damn things yesterday, here's the topic
Thread: "Fake: Seventy metal books found in cave in Jordan labeled most important find in Christian history"


THEY ARE FAKE PEOPLE. LOOK AT MY LINK.

it isnt the sealed book of revelation, only the lamb could open those seals, where as ordinary men are opening these books now.

After looking carefully at the picture, my guess it isn't the face of the crucified Jesus. It could be Paul, as Paul was the one who traveled all over to deliver the message to the people of Israel. He was martyred in Jeruselem, and so may have been remembered by those to whom he preached the Gospel.

Whoever it is, he was beaten bloody. His left eye is swollen shut, his nose cracked, and blood running out of his left nostril. I see him clean shaven.
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Looks like a lion

from your link...

"Peter Thonemann at Oxford has staked his career on the conclusion that the lead codices being discussed recently are forgeries executed within the last 50 years. The following is what he wrote to Elkington in an email after he was asked late last year to comment on the authenticity of the plates based on some photos:

A surprisingly easy task, as it turns out! The Greek text at the top of your photo no. 0556 reads: ΛΛΥΠΕΧΛΙΡΕ&​#923;ΒΓΛΡΟΚΛΙΕ&#​921;ΣΙΩΝ, followed by ΛΛΥΠΕ in mirror-writing.

This text corresponds to ΛΛΥΠΕ ΧΛΙΡΕ ΛΒΓΛΡ Ο ΚΛΙ ΕΙΣΙΩΝ, i.e. ἄλυπε χαῖρε, Ἀβγαρ ὁ καὶ Εἰσίων, followed by the word ἄλυπε again, in mirror writing. The text at the bottom of your photo no. 0532 is the first part of the same text again: ΛΥΠΕΧΛΙΡΕΛ&​#914;Γ, i.e. [ἄ]λυπε χαῖρε, Ἀβγ…

The text was incised by someone who did not know the Greek language, since he does not distinguish between the letters lambda and alpha: both are simply represented, in each of the texts, by the shape Λ. The text literally means ‘without grief, farewell! Abgar also known as Eision’. This text, in isolation, is meaningless."

Peter Thonemann opinion, was based on photos only.

This is not solid evidence.

yes this is true but christians also are guilty of the same thing, they transferred all of israels blessings upon themselves cause israel didnt exist, and assumed that they was the promised ones, only to have israel reborn and christians cheated out of the bird seat they took for themselves. the fact that israel being restored have spawned all sorts of conspiracy theory. even some hard core christians denying their jewish bretheren. and openly calling them all sorts of evil. but reguardless, they still occupy the land, and no one can take it from them. to my mind these christians really need to do some self examination. a house cannot stand being divided against itself, Jesus knew this. so, you either have the spirit of God, and know his will. or you do not, and are in danger of hell fire. do you hate your brother?

i understand why people would try to shed these imagined shackles, they have the promises the covenants and in the end when they are unblinded, after the numbers of the gentiles are filled, they too will have the savior. and the gentiles will have the outer courts. but atleast we will all be in heaven, right? with palm branches waving, remember? no hunger, no pain, no tears?

from those who are given much, much is required. israel was given much, but the gentiles not as much. dont worry, we will all be able to go to the house of Jacob and learn how to worship our God. isnt it not written that we would grab them by the arm and ask them to teach us such?

you can not enter the kingdom of heaven unless your like a child, ready to learn. i dont know how to worship God, thank God I have a Savior, else I would be trully lost.

there is only one thing i have been able to do, and even that wasnt on my own, so i can not boast, is ask Jesus into my life. and it is God that put that into my heart, when i asked Jesus to come into my life, it was Jesus who went unto the Father, it was then the Father who sent the Holy Spirit to dwell with me and lead me into all truths.

definately palm branch waving material in need of instruction on how to worship God. but hey, atleast we will be able to sing and dance right? and tend a garden full of trees and partake of a feast and drink wine in celibration.

in all actuality, i think this life is interesting but the next one will probably be alot more interesting, cause i think its billing is being vastly undersold. whats the return in this investment? what is it that we will ultimately be required to do? God has invested much into man, only to wave palm branches and to submit unto his will?

either we are a replacement of some sort or something ultimately will be gained from this. a tree bears fruit, and then those fruit seeds when planted, tended and took take of will grow more trees and in turn the process is repeated over and over untill you have an orchard.

the owner sends his son to collect his profit from the renters on the money they made off the orchard. the orchard continuously makes fruit so there is still profit to be made off the orchard, an orchard that produces will not be abandoned.

God does invest, but he expects a substantial return. but i dont understand what the return is. waving palm branches? bowing to his authority?

sorry im rambling

didnt mean to kill the thread lol

Jesus was a man not GOD and Christ was not even part of his name
You are describing GOD no where did it say CHRIST/GOD


and yeah yeah I know you will come back and try to shove some bible tard crap at me for telling you the truth

Isn't Christ described as "no apparent beauty, that man (people) should him desire (be attracted to)?

I have always thought that Jesus was a rather plain-looking individual, who did not PHYSICALLY stand out, rather it was his actions and message that stood out.

and it is an opinion not a fact

Behold you are and idiot and can not read


Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan

Lets see Synagogue was the word for a place of worship it has the same meaning as Church (which was not used then)Temple or synagogue
So what was being said was this is a temple or place of worship where they are not worshiping God but are worshiping false Gods and Idols (very popular in those times)

which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie
now this I can laugh at since I have been told there were no JEWS at that time only Hebrews which are ancient Jews by the way. So with that being said your Bible was obviously written latter
what that is saying is they who say they are (JEWS) and they are not
so these are people who practiced something else and were not Jews
Wow how hard is that to understand?? Just like the people who say they are Christian, Muslim or any other religion and really are not because they are radicals making up a religion as they go.

I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

Jesus was a prophet and a teacher spreading the word of loving GOD. One God and not several and to not bow down to Idols.

Also considering this was Deciphered by a group of Christians and was written after the Hebrews were called Jews it makes the whole thing suspect does it not? False Jews could be any sort of religion..how do you know that this passage is not speaking of people who worshiped a fish GOD?

But you are not reading and interpreting anyway.. you are just following what the other idiots tell you. Use your own brain and think .

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I think the combo of NJR and the Supreme Queen just about says it all.