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IODINE - What they DON'T tell us about this MIRACLE nutrient! UNBELIEVABLE!

 
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Me too. I've been reading about iodine all night, last stop was a check on glp, and amazinly, this thread!

I was diagnosed with a goiter years ago, ansd put on a generic synthroid. I kept telling the doctor I was still exhausted, and losing my hair, other problems. Eventually I was sent to a dermatologist that referred me to a specialist. After extensive tests the specialist asked me why in the world did my doctor have me on synthroid??

I called my family doctor about this, and was told to just stop it. They never told me you aren't supposed to suddently stop it!

Long story, I'm finally waking up to the importance of this mineral.

And bumping for anyone else new to this like me!
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synthroid or whatever equivalent on top of hypothyroid is a horrible condition and a few other friends that i know who also developed hyPo thyroid DID JUST THAT --they just stopped that med and are still alright though still appearing with severe hypothyroid according to their "numbers"--they don't bother with iodine either.

i'm doing the vitamins etc and about 3 months ago started with lugols but went through hell with what i found out were detox symptoms--headaches were INCREDIBLE..SO i switched to the iodoral tablets and toughed it out
and take 2 for 4 days on and 3 days off
and sometimes feel great and some days feel like crap and still take the synthroid as well-
i really believe the manufacurers of the synthroid have QUALITY issues as again--sometimes feel OK and other times almost dead.
i want to be finished with the synthroid.
been on them for about ten years NOW and very sorry that i didn't know about the iodine as i would have simply corrected it THEN instead of eating a synthetic POS that most likely has put the thyroid asleep the ssame way continuous use of cortisone/prednisone shuts off the adrenals.
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Sometimes people have acute thyroiditis but Hashimoto's causes low and high fluctuations -sometimes for years until it completely stops functioning completely or not enough to maintain the metabolism. Levothyroxine products suppress the function so that one's TSH and other thyroid hormones can become stabilized. Iodine intake isn't necessary and intake can actually cause more problems. There's iodide in the levothyroxine (e.g. Synthroid). If you weren't on enough Synthroid to suppress function, then I think you could still experience fluctuations. Off of it, for sure if you're still in the early stages of Hashimoto's. But one of the main issues that I hear from others who are taking levothyroxine products are those which are from over and underdosing. Many docs prescribe too high or low a dose and then when the TSH results come back to high or low, they again, under or over prescribe. A vicious cycle!! My endocrinologist blamed it on my body (too sensitive, difficult to treat, etc) when it was HIS fault. Changing my dose up or down by 25 mcg everyday or even 1 or 2 days is not proper. There's a very narrow therapeutic range for the TSH and to get there and stay there requires careful dosing and tilation. FINALLY, I micro-dosed myself and for the 1st time in 25 years -by increasing or decreasing my dose 2-3 times a week in 5 mcg increments , my TSH levels have stayed in the normal range and allowed for the dose to be therapeutic. It took months for some of the symptoms -like low blood sugar to stabilize. It's been about a year and my adrenal glands (cortex) are still recovering! NO iodine...interferes with levothyroxine and it's my sensitivity/allergy to iodine that caused me to have an overactive thyroid to begin with!!
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Just thought I'd chime back in with some more info.

In regards to iodine deficiency as a cause of cancer: This came out of a study on mice (yet to be fully studied in humans) that high caffeine consumption, along with low iodine intake or uptake can cause thyroid cancer.

However, for patients who already have cancer and also other disease states....the expression of the iodide symporter is altered. Research studies and clinical trials w/humans are already underway for treating some of these cancers with sodium iodine supporter gene therapy.

If you consume too much iodine, a high concentration in the bloodstream will considerably reduce the NIS (iodine symporter) expression, which will in turn inhibit iodine uptake and active transport of iodide (iodine+ion) into the cells for use and storage.

The thyroid is the main gland for iodine storage and transport. Once it leaves the thyroid, the converted form is iodide. If you take excess iodine, the thyroid will store whatever the body can't use. Once it reaches it's capacity to store iodine...it becomes toxic and can alter the function of the thyroid altogether.

Iodide is utilized by every cell in the body and is also stored in skin, hair, the salivary glands, etc., so these stores would need to be depleted for an actually deficiency to occur.

In summary, consuming excess iodine will reduce the effectiveness of the iodide symporter (s). Sodium ions are co-transporter of iodide symporter expression so a deficiency in sodium ions may cause some issues.

Symporters are located located in the following: chororid plexus, kidneys, parotid, thymus, skin, pituitary gland, pancreas, testis, prostate, adrenal glands, lung, heart, nasopharyngeal mucosa, extraocular muscles and ovaries. Iodine storage is mainly the thyroid and also present during pregnancy in mammary tissue and milk during lactation and also the placenta. An issue with any or all of these organs/glands may disrupt the iodide symporters and vice-versa.

Anything that disrupts thyroid function can cause issues with iodine uptake and iodide symporter expression: thiocyanates, percholate, rubidium salts, high arsenic, flourine, deficient cobalt, low manganese, soybean and cottonseed.

Altering your thyroid function with iodine supplementation (especially excess) will alter thyroid hormone testing...however, the results (like high t4) will indicate an excess. But having thyroid hormone testing done under normal iodine consumption may indicate an issue with iodine symporter (s) -or altogether uptake, absorption, transport and storage of iodine and iodide. There's specific genetic testing that can be a tool in determining if there's an iodine symporter problem. And I also mentioned urine testing to check iodine levels.

My source for most of this info can be found on Wiki for iodine and also the Wolff-Chaikoff effect. Where I got most of the info is an online resource which includes a copyright disclaimer for the electronic transfer so I can't post it but if you keep doing google searches, it may come up.

Best wishes,
Pam
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AWESOME thread!
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Thanks for the great info.
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My son had a sore on his face he thought started as a spider bite. In a week it had grown to over an inch in diameter and was very weepy! He went to the GP and was prescribed antibiotics - they didn't help. So he went back and this time he was prescribed anti-fungal! Still no change - it just kept growing! I had a bottle of aqueous iodine and recommended that he paint it on as nothing else was helping. Two days later it had cleared up completely!
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T Ceti - the link to the online document seems to be broken
at Google Documents. You wouldn't happen to have a pdf on it would you? If you do, could you send it to: documentarymagic@gmail.com ?

Thanks in advance if you're able to. hf

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oops, sorry OP, I have two threads open and got them mixed up. Just disregard, I'll go post at the other thread. hf

T Ceti - the link to the online document seems to be broken
at Google Documents. You wouldn't happen to have a pdf on it would you? If you do, could you send it to: documentarymagic@gmail.com ?

Thanks in advance if you're able to. hf

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I am allergic to Iodine.

That shit almost killed me. -_-
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Not sure how you can be allergic unless the real issue is that the levels are already too high in your system and adding to it would make the levels lethal.

Anyways, should you travel or have to really worry about washing your raw fruits and veggies like I do, be careful then especially. I know bleach diluted can work but its common down here in the Los Cabos area for us to use a premade/store bought iodine solution to disinfect even drinking water from tap. There is another option but I doubt people realize what is in the bottle ... just that it makes raw veggies safe for consumption when a quick rinse under the faucet means nada.
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T Ceti - the link to the online document seems to be broken
at Google Documents. You wouldn't happen to have a pdf on it would you? If you do, could you send it to: documentarymagic@gmail.com ?

Thanks in advance if you're able to. hf

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Here is a working link:
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My son had a sore on his face he thought started as a spider bite. In a week it had grown to over an inch in diameter and was very weepy! He went to the GP and was prescribed antibiotics - they didn't help. So he went back and this time he was prescribed anti-fungal! Still no change - it just kept growing! I had a bottle of aqueous iodine and recommended that he paint it on as nothing else was helping. Two days later it had cleared up completely!
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So awesome!! Iodine rocks!! rockon
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Natural. Always the way to go. Throw away your meds!
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Op is going to get Iodine poisoning and die from his Miracle Nutrient!


Just saying Iodine is an important nutrient but you can also OD on it and die it is called iodine poisoning.
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This is why doctors don't tell you the benefits of iodine and other substances, because you people just go crazy and take man made massive amounts of the substance causing a huge inbalance in your bodies methabolism that will eventually kill you.
Just to be clear you can get a proper and healthy amount of iodine just by including three simple things in your diet. Season your food with natural sea salt, eat fishes that eat seaweed and eat some seaweed occasionally. Don't try to cure or treat yourself whith man made vitamins just eat the natural sources, it's so simple.
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Op is going to get Iodine poisoning and die from his Miracle Nutrient!


Just saying Iodine is an important nutrient but you can also OD on it and die it is called iodine poisoning.
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Hello, OP here. I have been taking 12.5 - 100 mg on almost a daily basis for over a year now and I am only doing better. Many ailments I had are now gone. Certain ailments always come back when I have NOT taken my iodine for several weeks in a row. Iodine helps me immensely.

I take larger doses (75-100 mg) if I feel like I am coming down with a cold/flu. I also gargle with hydrogen peroxide and put a few drops in my ears and the ill feelings are gone within the hour. Turmeric (the spice) is also an unbelievable anti-inflammatory that I have successfully used to keep a tooth infection at bay until I could get to thee dentist.

While iodine may not be right for everyone, it is right for many, if not most. It's up to each person to use due diligence and common sense before and when taking/doing anything in this life. The iodine information has helped me, therefore I pass it along to whomever wishes to receive it.
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Can applying iodine on your skin ever cause you to absorb too much? After applying on my stomach for 6 days, now, I've had a headache for 12 hours? And, it suddenly has stopped soaking in...the spot is still orange, this morning, w/a headache?
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Op is going to get Iodine poisoning and die from his Miracle Nutrient!


Just saying Iodine is an important nutrient but you can also OD on it and die it is called iodine poisoning.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12657520


Hello, OP here. I have been taking 12.5 - 100 mg on almost a daily basis for over a year now and I am only doing better. Many ailments I had are now gone. Certain ailments always come back when I have NOT taken my iodine for several weeks in a row. Iodine helps me immensely.

I take larger doses (75-100 mg) if I feel like I am coming down with a cold/flu. I also gargle with hydrogen peroxide and put a few drops in my ears and the ill feelings are gone within the hour. Turmeric (the spice) is also an unbelievable anti-inflammatory that I have successfully used to keep a tooth infection at bay until I could get to thee dentist.

While iodine may not be right for everyone, it is right for many, if not most. It's up to each person to use due diligence and common sense before and when taking/doing anything in this life. The iodine information has helped me, therefore I pass it along to whomever wishes to receive it.
 Quoting: SleepyNightOwl


Do you mean mcg for micrograms, not mg for milligrams? The super low RDA of 75 micrograms is a head shaker.
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Can applying iodine on your skin ever cause you to absorb too much? After applying on my stomach for 6 days, now, I've had a headache for 12 hours? And, it suddenly has stopped soaking in...the spot is still orange, this morning, w/a headache?
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OP or anyone what is the information on an underactive thyroid hosimotos (not sure how you spell it) and taking synthroid.

Seems some are saying you should stop synthroid and let it just self correct. But do not take iodine as it is not good for underactive thyroid

thoughts? thanks
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Cool version of the Iodine slideshow.

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I have some questions:

What is better regular lugols Iodine or Potassium Iodide?
Will it fix chronic fatigue and feelings of low energy?
Where can I get it and is it really safe to take Iodine from supplementation?

What is the difference between Iodine and Liquid Zeolite?
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I have a quick question. I've been using Lugol's Iodine solution (Ingredients: Iodine, Potassium Iodine, distilled water). Is this a good one to be using?
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Well the guy at the vitamine shoppe said to take the kelp as it was better and easier not to get too much.

Is kelp tablet good?
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