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The weather is not normal...

 
idol harobed (OP)

12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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headbang
Cl1mh4224rd (OP)

12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Just wanted to throw out some more links from Wikipedia as I find them...

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
(a bit out-dated)

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Wul (OP)

12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Weather the weather is normal or weather the weather is abnormal is a bone of contention.


Does the melting of Siberian and the Great Lakes ice flows earlier in the year and further north each year have anything to do with humans?

Whatever, if humans do nothing it will me immaterial
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Clamhead is a shill Wull.

Everyone knows that all of the receding glaciers and weather extremes are not normal and indicative of greater change to come.

Even he knows this.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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But doesn´t depend on how you define normal?

Overall climate has been much more stable in recent history than in the distant past so yes, that is abnormal. "Normal" climate would be shifting more and faster than it is now.

It is going to get worse before it gets better and there isn´t a damn thing you, I, or anyone else can do about it but prepare. Is humankind effecting it? Maybe. Enough to matter? Doubtful. Is change inevitable regardless of our actions? Without doubt.
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Having actually visited the Arctic, I can tell you things are NOT normal. The Inuit are freaking out about melting glaciers and disappearing sea ice.
If you haven´t been there, STFU!!!
idol harobed (OP)

12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Good catch. I hope the woo-woos understand that there is no trend towards Judgement Day or something like that.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Poor Idol.

When he writes it´s like having a retarded child speak to you.

You know whatever he says is going to be nonsense but you don´t want to hurt it´s feelings.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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no shit sherlock
Cl1mh4224rd (OP)

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Does the melting of Siberian and the Great Lakes ice flows earlier in the year and further north each year have anything to do with humans?
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Well, I never said things weren´t changing. I suppose you could take "everything is normal" as meaning that, but that´s not true. Changes in weather are, technically speaking, absolutely normal.

But here in GLP Land, change is the end of the world.

But, yeah... the "global warming" thing is kind of interesting. Whether humans have significant impact on any change in the weather is a big, big question. All of us, I hope, understand the power of nature, but yet people here continue to loudly proclaim that we mere humans are upsetting the balance. Surprisingly (to many of you, I´m sure) I partially agree. Even if the possiblity exists, I think we should be proactive rather than take a wait-and-see stance.

I can´t say for sure whether humans will be responsible for calamitous changes in the future, but this crap about a strong hurricane here or there, a flood, heavy snow, etc. being "the end" has really got to stop. It´s been going on for longer than anyone here cares to remember (illustrated by the simple fact that no one here *does* remember extremes like the Great Storm I linked to), so current equivalents are absolutely no indication of Bad Things™.
User # 78/68 (OP)

12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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The spooks are out in force today.

And making threads like this with your job here Cl1 is just plain stupid.

You couldn´t be any more obvious a government sell-out. (((shaking head)))
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Of course it´s normal clit head, see:
[link to www.sky.com]
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Austria reports that the current floods are even much worse than the "flood of the century" of 1999!
Cl1mh4224rd (OP)

12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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You couldn´t be any more obvious a government sell-out. (((shaking head)))
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Oh, come now... Surely you´d take offense if I called you obviously, mentally deficient, but I have no real proof to back that up, so how about you people try putting away those paranoid, unfounded accusations for once and try to play nice?

Why do you think I insult people around here? Because it´s my job, or because I was insulted first? And, really, don´t try to tell me the folks here on GLP are a beacon of human decency, because that´s just a damn lie and you know it; you´ve proven it yourself just now.

You can´t honestly expect people to just sit back and take the verbal abuse many of you dish out, without reacting in kind, do you? Sorry, but it doesn´t work that way. You play nice; I play nice.
Cl1mh4224rd (OP)

12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Of course it´s normal clit head, see:
[link to www.sky.com]
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

"The 1931 Huang He flood caused between 800,000 and 4,000,000 deaths in China, one of a series of disastrous floods on the Huang He."

While I´m sure the European floods are bad, being a natural disaster and all, you can´t seriously try to claim that, "OMGWTF! THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED!!!" anywhere... ever.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Yeah, and we have had an ice age before too.
Cl1mh4224rd (OP)

12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Yeah, and we have had an ice age before too.
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And we´ll probably have another one, too. So what?

Unfortunately, many of you seem to be afraid that one day you´ll wake up and your house in Florida will buried under a sheet of ice. Come on now... I´m sure even the most diehard catastrophists around here know anything even remotely that extreme will not happen that quickly. Something that major takes a relatively long time to manifest. Short on a geological time-scale, but kind of longish to humans.
User # 78/68 (OP)

12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Come on Cl1, your agenda here is obvious. Making threads like this only expose you ... right out there.
Cl1mh4224rd (OP)

12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Ok, sure. You´re entitled to that opinion. You´re also entitled to not believe me when I tell you it´s not true, but that doesn´t change the fact that it´s not true.

I´d ask what I´d have to do to prove that I don´t work for the government, but I know you´d just see it as a hollow gesture. Of course, you´re obviously not willing to change your mind about the issue anyway, so... whatever.

You´re happy in your fantasy world. I don´t care. It´s a win-win in my book.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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"You´re happy in your fantasy world. I don´t care. It´s a win-win in my book."

New quote-book entry!

Thanks.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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"Having actually visited the Arctic, I can tell you things are NOT normal. The Inuit are freaking out about melting glaciers and disappearing sea ice.
If you haven´t been there, STFU!!!"

Yet another woo^2 person tries to silence people that have differing opinions.

Why are so many of you kooks also Forum Nazis?
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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User # 78/68 wrote:

[mercy snip]

TROLL ALERT!
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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I´m not trying to silence anyone, just pointing out you don´t have all the facts.
Reading articles is one thing, but seeing for yourself and talking with people that live there is all together different.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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true
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Hey mofo, stop fucking with your playstation.. go play to the garden. You don;t have many years left idiot. Idol, go fuck this asshole.
Lying BABB Maggot™ (OP)

12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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>>I´m not trying to silence anyone, just pointing out you don´t have all the facts.
>>Reading articles is one thing, but seeing for yourself and talking with people that live there is all together different.

That still doesn´t mean _you_ have the facts either. I just means you have one more biased opinion to consider.
Circuit Breaker (OP)

12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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"You couldn´t be any more obvious a government sell-out."

Nancy´s paid troll is out in force today. Too bad she can only afford to hire one now that all the donations have stopped coming into her "non-profit" doomsday cult.

You do realize Grant that people to have free will and the ability to think for themselves, well, except you. So, what that means is that just because my opinion doesn´t adhere to your beliefs doesn´t make me a "paid debunker." That´s a rather tired auto response that you woo-woos need to change.
idol harobed (OP)

12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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"The spooks are out in force today.

And making threads like this with your job here Cl1 is just plain stupid.

You couldn´t be any more obvious a government sell-out. (((shaking head)))"

:dubya:
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Wow, the big three all at once!
Make that the opinion of every single Inuit I met in 2 months in Baffin.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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"I´m not trying to silence anyone, just pointing out you don´t have all the facts.
Reading articles is one thing, but seeing for yourself and talking with people that live there is all together different."

Gee, I thought STFU meant "shut the fuck up".

Is there more than one way to interpret ´STFU´ than "Shut The Fuck Up"?

Where do you get off telling people to STFU?

You hysterical kook crackpot woo-woo forum Nazis slay me!

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