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What do Willy Wonka and God have in common?

 
Anonymous Coward
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What do Willy Wonka and God have in common?
What do Willy Wonka and God have in common? Mr. Slugworth.

Recall in the story of Willy Wonka that Mr. Slugworth was actually working for Mr. Wonka. Outwardly, Slugworth tempted the winners of the golden tickets to betray Mr. Wonka, AND go back on what they agreed to do. The work Mr. Slugworth did helped Mr. Wonka sort out just who was worthy of the enormous gift of the chocolate factory in which Mr. Wonka had poured his life's blood.

Could it be that the purpose of having a "devil" - a "Satan" - might be to fulfill such a role?
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04/04/2011 07:30 PM
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Re: What do Willy Wonka and God have in common?
Both are figments of the imagination.
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04/04/2011 07:33 PM
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Re: What do Willy Wonka and God have in common?
Both are figments of the imagination.
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I appreciate your right to have an opinion, but I think you miss the point.
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Re: What do Willy Wonka and God have in common?
You can kinda say that. God is actually using Satan to fulfill His plan, but the only difference is they both are not friends.
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Re: What do Willy Wonka and God have in common?
Both are figments of the imagination.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1167923


I appreciate your right to have an opinion, but I think you miss the point.
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Chocolate (as in the color).
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Re: What do Willy Wonka and God have in common?
Both are fake
or
Both give candy to little boys to have sex with them
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Re: What do Willy Wonka and God have in common?
Both are fake
or
Both give candy to little boys to have sex with them
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1153822


Now this is a point to be made. Part of the Slugworth/Satan concept is personified here.

Adversity. Adversity simply for the sake of adversity. It's foundation is in utter stupidity, but it does "push buttons" in the lower level chakras and create emotional reactions. Emotional reactions are the basics of MOTIVATION. Which motivation is acted upon is, of course, individual.

So, even though they are stupid, annoying, and we wish they would all just go away, morons are a necessary evil in this life. Slugworth loves these types, and manufactures them, because they are so controlable.
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Re: What do Willy Wonka and God have in common?
bump to try and rise above the din
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Re: What do Willy Wonka and God have in common?
Gazing about him, Adam finds himself in a radiant place, in the midst of which stands a tree with flashing jewels for fruit and entwined about its trunk a flaming, winged serpent crowned with a diadem of stars. It was the voice of the serpent that had spoken.

"Who art thou?" demands the Adam.

"I," the serpent answers, "am Satan who was stoned; I am the Adversary - the Lord who is against you, the one who pleads for your destruction before the Eternal Tribunal. I was your enemy upon the day that you were formed; I have led you into temptation; I have delivered you into the hands of evil; I have maligned you; I have striven ever to achieve your undoing. I am the guardian of the Tree of Knowledge and I have sworn that none whom I can lead astray shall partake of its fruits."

The Adam replies: "For uncounted ages have I been thy servant. In my ignorance I listened to thy words and they led me into paths of sorrow. Thou hast placed in my mind dreams of power, and when I struggled to realize those dreams they brought me naught but pain. Thou hast sowed in me the seeds of desire, and when I lusted after the things of the flesh agony was my only recompense. Thou hast sent me false prophets and false reasoning, and when I strove to grasp the magnitude of Truth I found thy laws were false and only dismay rewarded my strivings. I am done with thee forever, O artful Spirit! I have tired of thy world of illusions. No longer will I labor in thy vineyards of iniquity. Get thee behind me, tempter, and the host of thy temptations. There is no happiness, no peace, no good, no future in the doctrines of selfishness, hate, and passion preached by thee. All these things do I cast aside. Renounced is thy rule forever!"

And the serpent makes answer: "Behold, O Adam, the nature of thy Adversary!" The serpent disappears in a blinding sunburst of radiance and in its place stands an angel respendent in shining, golden garments with great scarlet wings that spread from one corner of the heavens to the other. Dismayed and awestruck, the Adam falls before the divine creature.

"I am the Lord who is against thee and thus accomplishes thy salvation," continues the voice. "Thou hast hated me, but through the ages yet to be thou shalt bless me, for I have led thee out of the sphere of the Demiurgus; I have turned thee against the illusion of worldliness; I have weaned thee of desire; I have awakened in thy soul the immortality of which I myself partake. Follow me, O Adam, for I am the Way, the Life, and the Truth!"

hf
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Re: What do Willy Wonka and God have in common?
Gazing about him, Adam finds himself in a radiant place, in the midst of which stands a tree with flashing jewels for fruit and entwined about its trunk a flaming, winged serpent crowned with a diadem of stars. It was the voice of the serpent that had spoken.

"Who art thou?" demands the Adam.

"I," the serpent answers, "am Satan who was stoned; I am the Adversary - the Lord who is against you, the one who pleads for your destruction before the Eternal Tribunal. I was your enemy upon the day that you were formed; I have led you into temptation; I have delivered you into the hands of evil; I have maligned you; I have striven ever to achieve your undoing. I am the guardian of the Tree of Knowledge and I have sworn that none whom I can lead astray shall partake of its fruits."

The Adam replies: "For uncounted ages have I been thy servant. In my ignorance I listened to thy words and they led me into paths of sorrow. Thou hast placed in my mind dreams of power, and when I struggled to realize those dreams they brought me naught but pain. Thou hast sowed in me the seeds of desire, and when I lusted after the things of the flesh agony was my only recompense. Thou hast sent me false prophets and false reasoning, and when I strove to grasp the magnitude of Truth I found thy laws were false and only dismay rewarded my strivings. I am done with thee forever, O artful Spirit! I have tired of thy world of illusions. No longer will I labor in thy vineyards of iniquity. Get thee behind me, tempter, and the host of thy temptations. There is no happiness, no peace, no good, no future in the doctrines of selfishness, hate, and passion preached by thee. All these things do I cast aside. Renounced is thy rule forever!"

And the serpent makes answer: "Behold, O Adam, the nature of thy Adversary!" The serpent disappears in a blinding sunburst of radiance and in its place stands an angel respendent in shining, golden garments with great scarlet wings that spread from one corner of the heavens to the other. Dismayed and awestruck, the Adam falls before the divine creature.

"I am the Lord who is against thee and thus accomplishes thy salvation," continues the voice. "Thou hast hated me, but through the ages yet to be thou shalt bless me, for I have led thee out of the sphere of the Demiurgus; I have turned thee against the illusion of worldliness; I have weaned thee of desire; I have awakened in thy soul the immortality of which I myself partake. Follow me, O Adam, for I am the Way, the Life, and the Truth!"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 757400


hf


Source, please?
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Re: What do Willy Wonka and God have in common?
erm.. God is made of chocolate? I have to eat God? I don't get it. ohhh..

tomato
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Re: What do Willy Wonka and God have in common?
What do Willy Wonka and God have in common?

everlastinggobstopability!
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04/04/2011 09:18 PM
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Re: What do Willy Wonka and God have in common?
Naw, Willie Wonka is more like Martin Luther.

*golden tickets* rockon
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Re: What do Willy Wonka and God have in common?
Grandpa Joe says Wonka was a crook...and a swindler

Wonka = Satan


Charlie = christ
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Re: What do Willy Wonka and God have in common?
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Re: What do Willy Wonka and God have in common?
To All Atheists, If your assumptions(claims with no evidence of proof) are correct what does it cost us what do we loose or gain? If you are incorrect,wrong then what,do you loose or gain(heaven or nonexistence[hell])????????????????????????????? the white rose

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