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I have a theory that most, if not all, TV evangelists are Illuminati/false teachers. TV, as we all know, is ruled by Illuminati. I also postulate that false TV evangelists can not only be spotted by their name, but their name speaks of their hidden agenda. Illuminati must reveal their agenda before they can execute it. I think this is done in the TV evangelist's names.

Example:

Evangelist: Creflo Dollar

Agenda: Prosperity "theology" centered on the notion that God provides material prosperity for those he favors. Founder of World Changers Church International,Creflo Dollar Ministries, and Arrow Records. He was awarded an honorary Doctor of Divinity from Oral Roberts University in 1998.

Name is obvious - Dollar

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Evangelist: Benny Hinn

Agenda: Charismatic faith healer, "Miracle Crusades," claims to channel the Holy Spirit to heal the sick. Hinn is frequently welcomed during his crusades by kings, prime ministers, and heads of state. Self-proclaimed to have "The Anointing"—the power purportedly given by God and transmitted through Hinn to carry out supernatural acts. At Hinn's Miracle Crusades, he has allegedly healed attendees of blindness, deafness, cancer, AIDS, and severe physical injuries. However, investigative reports by the Los Angeles Times, NBC's Dateline, the CBC's The Fifth Estate, and the Nine Network's 60 Minutes have called these claims into question.

Hinn has also caused controversy for theological remarks and claims he has made during TV appearances. In 1999, Hinn appeared on the Trinity Broadcasting Network (we all know their agenda, right?), claiming that God had given him a vision predicting the resurrection of thousands of dead people after watching the network—laying out a scenario of people placing their dead loved ones' hands on TV screens tuned into the station—and suggesting that TBN would be "an extension of Heaven to Earth" (taken from Wikipedia).

His name closely resembles Djinn.

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Evangelist: Jack Van Impe

Agenda: Eschatologist (part theology, philosophy, and futurology concerned with what are believed to be the final events in history, or the ultimate destiny of humanity, commonly referred to as the end of the world or the World to Come. The Oxford English Dictionary defines it as "concerned with ‘the four last things: death, judgment, heaven, and hell.') Van Impe's website claims that he is known as the "Walking Bible" because of his extensive memorization of Bible verses.

Also a musician and recording artist. Jack notes that during his years working with the Billy Graham crusades, Van Impe met his future wife, Rexella, who was also a musician with the crusades.

Name: Van Impe ("of the imp.")
An imp is a mythological being similar to a fairy or demon, frequently described in folklore and superstition. Originating from Germanic folklore, the imp was a small lesser demon. It should also be noted that demons in Germanic legends were not necessarily always evil. Imps were often mischievous rather than evil or harmful, and in some regions they were portrayed as attendants of the gods.

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Intriguing theory, S&L!

Those are a few who to me seem to be serving themselves instead of Christ.
We become like that to which we are devoted. Choose wisely.
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I have been promoting my following opinion as follows
ALL ORGANISED RELIGIONS ARE FALSE, CORRUPTIVE AND ABUSIVE.
Religion is between the indivdual and their GOD whatever that is!
The questions we ask today? WE will have the answer tomorrow!!
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Intriguing theory, S&L!

Those are a few who to me seem to be serving themselves instead of Christ.
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Thanks, L&L. Great to see you here!!
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I have been promoting my following opinion as follows
ALL ORGANISED RELIGIONS ARE FALSE, CORRUPTIVE AND ABUSIVE.
Religion is between the indivdual and their GOD whatever that is!
 Quoting: bolisking


agreed
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Really.
You give those assabats enough credit that you'd consider them Illuminati?

I'm sure the real Illuminati is highly insulted.
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Good God, man -- all you have to do is spend a few minutes listening to any of them, and you come up with the same conclusion -- they're all wolves after the sheeps' money.


Can you imagine Jesus hosting a TV program featuring 1-900 dial-a-prayer and a product line?


People who support these charlatans can't be Christians, and if they are, they seriously need to start paying attention to the holy spirit because their powers of discernment are not functioning.
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I have been promoting my following opinion as follows
ALL ORGANISED RELIGIONS ARE FALSE, CORRUPTIVE AND ABUSIVE.
Religion is between the indivdual and their GOD whatever that is!
 Quoting: bolisking


Speaking only of Christianity as I am not as informed on other beliefs, we have to be careful to distinguish between (1) the institutional church and (2) the church as the body of Christ. Neither is without fault,but those of the institution seem more egregious and visible.

I am blessed to be associated with a warm, loving group of people within an institutional denomination. No abuse, no manipulation, no coercion that I've seen. I'm sure as one moves up the hierarchical ladder there are more instances of those, but frankly they are of zero concern to me as they don't affect me.

There are lots of ways to hide from God: one is to think God is like some of the church institutions out there, thereby throwing out the baby with the bath water.
We become like that to which we are devoted. Choose wisely.
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Great post OP. If you see anyone teaching pre-trib rapture then you know for sure they waork for Satan.


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Great post OP. If you see anyone teaching pre-trib rapture then you know for sure they work for Satan.
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No, I wouldn't say that. While it is not a position I hold, I do know some deeply converted Spirit-led men and women who do see a pre-trib rapture picture.

I rather doubt they "work for Satan." hf
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Grand Master of the Illuminati, : Jesus of Nazareth.
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A interesting letter:

Thomas Jefferson to Reverend James Madison January 31,1800

Wishaupt believes that to promote this perfection of the human character was the object of Jesus Christ. That his intention was simply to reinstate natural religion, & by diffusing the light of his morality, to teach us to govern ourselves.

His precepts are the love of god & love of our neighbor. And by teaching innocence of conduct, he expected to place men in their natural state of liberty & equality. He says, no one ever laid a surer foundation for liberty than our grand master, Jesus of Nazareth.

He believes the Free masons were originally possessed of the true principles & objects of Christianity, & have still preserved some of them by tradition, but much disfigured. The means he proposes to effect this improvement of human nature are "to enlighten men, to correct their morals & inspire them with benevolence.

Secure of our success, sais he, we abstain from violent commotions. To have foreseen, the happiness of posterity & to have prepared it by irreproachable means, suffices for our felicity. The tranquility of our consciences is not troubled by the reproach of aiming at the ruin or overthrow of states or thrones."

As Weishaupt lived under the tyranny of a despot & priests, he knew that caution was necessary even in spreading information, & the principles of pure morality. He proposed therefore to lead the Free masons to adopt this object & to make the objects of their institution the diffusion of science & virtue.

He proposed to initiate new members into his body by gradations proportioned to his fears of the thunderbolts of tyranny.

This has given an air of mystery to his views, was the foundation of his banishment,
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I have been promoting my following opinion as follows
ALL ORGANISED RELIGIONS ARE FALSE, CORRUPTIVE AND ABUSIVE.
Religion is between the indivdual and their GOD whatever that is!
 Quoting: bolisking



+1000000
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I have a theory that most, if not all, TV evangelists are Illuminati/false teachers. TV, as we all know, is ruled by Illuminati. I also postulate that false TV evangelists can not only be spotted by their name, but their name speaks of their hidden agenda. Illuminati must reveal their agenda before they can execute it. I think this is done in the TV evangelist's names.

Example:

Evangelist: Creflo Dollar

Agenda: Prosperity "theology" centered on the notion that God provides material prosperity for those he favors. Founder of World Changers Church International,Creflo Dollar Ministries, and Arrow Records. He was awarded an honorary Doctor of Divinity from Oral Roberts University in 1998.

Name is obvious - Dollar

**********************************

Evangelist: Benny Hinn

Agenda: Charismatic faith healer, "Miracle Crusades," claims to channel the Holy Spirit to heal the sick. Hinn is frequently welcomed during his crusades by kings, prime ministers, and heads of state. Self-proclaimed to have "The Anointing"—the power purportedly given by God and transmitted through Hinn to carry out supernatural acts. At Hinn's Miracle Crusades, he has allegedly healed attendees of blindness, deafness, cancer, AIDS, and severe physical injuries. However, investigative reports by the Los Angeles Times, NBC's Dateline, the CBC's The Fifth Estate, and the Nine Network's 60 Minutes have called these claims into question.

Hinn has also caused controversy for theological remarks and claims he has made during TV appearances. In 1999, Hinn appeared on the Trinity Broadcasting Network (we all know their agenda, right?), claiming that God had given him a vision predicting the resurrection of thousands of dead people after watching the network—laying out a scenario of people placing their dead loved ones' hands on TV screens tuned into the station—and suggesting that TBN would be "an extension of Heaven to Earth" (taken from Wikipedia).

His name closely resembles Djinn.

***********************************************

Evangelist: Jack Van Impe

Agenda: Eschatologist (part theology, philosophy, and futurology concerned with what are believed to be the final events in history, or the ultimate destiny of humanity, commonly referred to as the end of the world or the World to Come. The Oxford English Dictionary defines it as "concerned with ‘the four last things: death, judgment, heaven, and hell.') Van Impe's website claims that he is known as the "Walking Bible" because of his extensive memorization of Bible verses.

Also a musician and recording artist. Jack notes that during his years working with the Billy Graham crusades, Van Impe met his future wife, Rexella, who was also a musician with the crusades.

Name: Van Impe ("of the imp.")
An imp is a mythological being similar to a fairy or demon, frequently described in folklore and superstition. Originating from Germanic folklore, the imp was a small lesser demon. It should also be noted that demons in Germanic legends were not necessarily always evil. Imps were often mischievous rather than evil or harmful, and in some regions they were portrayed as attendants of the gods.

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...continued....
 Quoting: Salt & Light


Creflo Dollar sounds like Freeflow Dollars... Never liked that guy one second.
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they accept CREDIT CARDS.
As Jesus Specifically went up against the money changers practice of USERY it's a safe bet any Church participating in the practice ain't following Jesus.
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they accept CREDIT CARDS.
As Jesus Specifically went up against the money changers practice of USERY it's a safe bet any Church participating in the practice ain't following Jesus.
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I know her post is stupid. Comparing what to what? She should leave them alone,

Go after drug dealers instead and child abusers instead of tv preachers and calling them Illuminati, lol..

Some people have too much time on their hands
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Evangelist: Joel Osteen

Agenda: Find God through positive, self-esteem building message.

(yum, yum, this attracts many. positive message, encouraging, builds you up, up up! but wait.... hidden agenda... look carefully)

A former (?) Morman, his sermons and writings are sometimes reproached for their use of the concepts of prosperity theology, or the prosperity gospel, a belief that wealth and power are rewards for pious Christians. Osteen has received criticism from some in the Evangelical community.

After a 2005 appearance on Larry King Live, he was accused of not clearly affirming that Jesus Christ is the only way a person can reach Heaven. He stated repeatedly that only God knows a person's heart, but that as a believer in the Christian faith he believes in an intimate relationship with Jesus Christ. In late 2006, Osteen again appeared on Larry King Live and clarified his prior statement, saying he does in fact believe a personal relationship with Christ is the only way to Heaven.

On October 14, 2007, 60 Minutes ran a twelve minute segment on Osteen titled "Joel Osteen Answers his Critics" during which the Reformed theologian Michael Horton can be seen critiquing him. Horton tells CBS News correspondent Byron Pitts that Osteen's method of teaching is Christian heresy.

On the December 23, 2007, edition of Fox News Sunday, host Chris Wallace brought up criticisms of Osteen's lack of Scripture reference in his sermons, as well as his hesitancy to discuss sin as an integral part of life. Osteen responded: "And I am ultimately trying to do that, but I'm trying to teach people how to live their everyday lives, and so I do focus on it, probably not as much as some people would like."

Joel Osteen's first book, Your Best Life Now: 7 Steps to Living at Your Full Potential, was released in October 2004. In December 2006, he was named one of the year's "Ten Most Fascinating People" by Barbara Walters.[9] Former presidential candidate John McCain has described Osteen as "inspirational".

Name: Osteen, closely resembles esteem, or "overly esteemed"
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I have been promoting my following opinion as follows
ALL ORGANISED RELIGIONS ARE FALSE, CORRUPTIVE AND ABUSIVE.
Religion is between the indivdual and their GOD whatever that is!
 Quoting: bolisking



+1000000
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1327441


Make sure what you are addressing as god is God. We are not alone.
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Well, a friend of mine said you can tell the false evangelists by the fact that their wives all look like 'retread cheerleaders.'
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Evangelist: Joel Osteen

Agenda: Find God through positive, self-esteem building message.

(yum, yum, this attracts many. positive message, encouraging, builds you up, up up! but wait.... hidden agenda... look carefully)

A former (?) Morman, his sermons and writings are sometimes reproached for their use of the concepts of prosperity theology, or the prosperity gospel, a belief that wealth and power are rewards for pious Christians. Osteen has received criticism from some in the Evangelical community.

After a 2005 appearance on Larry King Live, he was accused of not clearly affirming that Jesus Christ is the only way a person can reach Heaven. He stated repeatedly that only God knows a person's heart, but that as a believer in the Christian faith he believes in an intimate relationship with Jesus Christ. In late 2006, Osteen again appeared on Larry King Live and clarified his prior statement, saying he does in fact believe a personal relationship with Christ is the only way to Heaven.

On October 14, 2007, 60 Minutes ran a twelve minute segment on Osteen titled "Joel Osteen Answers his Critics" during which the Reformed theologian Michael Horton can be seen critiquing him. Horton tells CBS News correspondent Byron Pitts that Osteen's method of teaching is Christian heresy.

On the December 23, 2007, edition of Fox News Sunday, host Chris Wallace brought up criticisms of Osteen's lack of Scripture reference in his sermons, as well as his hesitancy to discuss sin as an integral part of life. Osteen responded: "And I am ultimately trying to do that, but I'm trying to teach people how to live their everyday lives, and so I do focus on it, probably not as much as some people would like."

Joel Osteen's first book, Your Best Life Now: 7 Steps to Living at Your Full Potential, was released in October 2004. In December 2006, he was named one of the year's "Ten Most Fascinating People" by Barbara Walters.[9] Former presidential candidate John McCain has described Osteen as "inspirational".

Name: Osteen, closely resembles esteem, or "overly esteemed"
 Quoting: Salt & Light



LOL !!!!!!!!!

Picking on Joel Olsteen??????

If more people were like him,

'Why dont you pick on Tribal machete bearing thugs in Africa or the Foster Care system abusers raping kids or the Meth Head lab workers or the drug cartels in Mexico. or the child porn producers all around the world.

Geez....

Youre weird. thats all you got? lol
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Salt and Light, get a life
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Salt and Light, get a life
 Quoting: SPARTACUS 23


thanks, got one. good to see you spartacus, or whatever name you are using this week.
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'Why dont you pick on Tribal machete bearing thugs in Africa or the Foster Care system abusers raping kids or the Meth Head lab workers or the drug cartels in Mexico. or the child porn producers all around the world.

Geez....

Youre weird. thats all you got? lol
 Quoting: SPARTACUS 23


A perfect example of the "ridicule instead of reason" approach that I mentioned above.
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'Why dont you pick on Tribal machete bearing thugs in Africa or the Foster Care system abusers raping kids or the Meth Head lab workers or the drug cartels in Mexico. or the child porn producers all around the world.

Geez....

Youre weird. thats all you got? lol
 Quoting: SPARTACUS 23


A perfect example of the "ridicule instead of reason" approach that I mentioned above.
 Quoting: Life and Love


spartacus openly worships satan. ignore...
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Kenneth Copeland is Satan incarnate.


Tomato plants are notorious for being obnoxious. They're always like: "Look at me, I'm too sexy for my pot... too sexy for my pot."
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Salt and Light, get a life
 Quoting: SPARTACUS 23


thanks, got one. good to see you spartacus, or whatever name you are using this week.
 Quoting: Salt & Light


They preach goodness and morality and hope, no matter how much they annoy some

Theres WORSE people in the world. Trust me, there are.

lol
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I have been promoting my following opinion as follows
ALL ORGANISED RELIGIONS ARE FALSE, CORRUPTIVE AND ABUSIVE.
Religion is between the indivdual and their GOD whatever that is!
 Quoting: bolisking


Speaking only of Christianity as I am not as informed on other beliefs....
 Quoting: Life and Love


Well, if you were really speaking as a Christian, you would know that all other beliefs (I'm assuming you mean Judaism [aka the Synagogue of Satan], Islam (false prophet], Buddhism [false prophet], etc.) are defacto lies of the devil, so why would you want to be informed of them one way or the other? I'm afraid you have blinders on. You should be VERY concerned about what people do in the upper levels of your organization as it does indeed affect you. God doesn't look kindly on willful ignorance or willful naivete. If you suspect your organization is not following Jesus at all levels, then you should get out of it NOW! Or perhaps it's just a social club for you and you don't want to lose your friends?


Jesus says: Those who lose their lives for my sake will gain it.


So who will you follow -- Jesus or your church friends? It sounds to me like you can't follow both.
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'Why dont you pick on Tribal machete bearing thugs in Africa or the Foster Care system abusers raping kids or the Meth Head lab workers or the drug cartels in Mexico. or the child porn producers all around the world.

Geez....

Youre weird. thats all you got? lol
 Quoting: SPARTACUS 23


A perfect example of the "ridicule instead of reason" approach that I mentioned above.
 Quoting: Life and Love


spartacus openly worships satan. ignore...
 Quoting: Salt & Light


Go to Africa, Darfur, Sierra Leone

Youll find a very NON Illuminati/white Christian Evangelist nation there,

You might like Africa, lots more than Evil Illuminati America.
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So who will you follow -- Jesus or your church friends? It sounds to me like you can't follow both.
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If by "you" you are referring to me individually, I am pleased to find someone who didn't flunk mindreading in school.

If by "you" you are referring to Christians in general, I am sad that you have so little understanding.
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Salt and Light, get a life
 Quoting: SPARTACUS 23


thanks, got one. good to see you spartacus, or whatever name you are using this week.
 Quoting: Salt & Light


They preach goodness and morality and hope, no matter how much they annoy some

Theres WORSE people in the world. Trust me, there are.

lol
 Quoting: SPARTACUS 23


yes, agreed. positive message, i will give you that. that's the whole point. appears positive and esteem lifting, but lacks any scripture reference, or mention of Jesus.
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'Why dont you pick on Tribal machete bearing thugs in Africa or the Foster Care system abusers raping kids or the Meth Head lab workers or the drug cartels in Mexico. or the child porn producers all around the world.

Geez....

Youre weird. thats all you got? lol
 Quoting: SPARTACUS 23


A perfect example of the "ridicule instead of reason" approach that I mentioned above.
 Quoting: Life and Love


spartacus openly worships satan. ignore...
 Quoting: Salt & Light


If I worship Satan than why am I defending Christian Evangelists? never mind.

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