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How to recognize that the Illuminati are posing as "Christian" TV evangelists

 
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The money lenders are back in the temple!

There is a theory that speech is hynotic, don't know a lot about it though. Sociopaths can often be mesmerising speakers, along with 'glib', they have the 'gift of the gab'.
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One of the things I've learned is master hypnotists use a sort of undulating crescendo of voice pattern and also to add pregnant pauses in the speech.
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Yes, it's voice tone, pause, more than the actual words, not what you say but how you say it, there's a particular resonance to these voices and I think a lot of media talking heads try for that resonance, I know they do speech/voice work to produce a particular type of voice. This is a good example although it's a film intro, 'Europa' an actor not a hypnotist, but the styling of the voice is similar.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Thanks, AC, for the video. I love this type of thing, exposing the charlatans.
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Great thread! Anyone else notice the shill tactics employed by Apollo, aka Spartacus, on page 1? Classic textbook style.
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:9teen: Yeah, he was all over this thread like an ill fitting suit.
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He does that, I don't dislike the guy and in some ways I regard those people as 'seekers', but yeah, he's always trying to photoshop some pagan concept in there.
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Great thread! Anyone else notice the shill tactics employed by Apollo, aka Spartacus, on page 1? Classic textbook style.
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:9teen: Yeah, he was all over this thread like an ill fitting suit.
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Yep! Notice how quick he was to defend the darkness and stifle the light?
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Great thread! Anyone else notice the shill tactics employed by Apollo, aka Spartacus, on page 1? Classic textbook style.
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:9teen: Yeah, he was all over this thread like an ill fitting suit.
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Yep! Notice how quick he was to defend the darkness and stifle the light?
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yep, and throwing a good set of insults my way in the process.
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'Why dont you pick on Tribal machete bearing thugs in Africa or the Foster Care system abusers raping kids or the Meth Head lab workers or the drug cartels in Mexico. or the child porn producers all around the world.

Geez....

Youre weird. thats all you got? lol
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A perfect example of the "ridicule instead of reason" approach that I mentioned above.
 Quoting: Life and Love


spartacus openly worships satan. ignore...
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If I worship Satan than why am I defending Christian Evangelists? never mind.
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You are defending the evangelists, because you worship the same God (Lucifer)..

If you love the lord Jesus Christ, you have no business hanging out with the people in Hollywood..
"On Christ the solid Rock I stand!
All other ground is sinking sand!"
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Great thread! Anyone else notice the shill tactics employed by Apollo, aka Spartacus, on page 1? Classic textbook style.
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:9teen: Yeah, he was all over this thread like an ill fitting suit.
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Yep! Notice how quick he was to defend the darkness and stifle the light?
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yep, and throwing a good set of insults my way in the process.
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In the shill/debate world, that is called using the "ad hominem" card.
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Great post OP..Just like Jesus said, Anything done in darkness, I will bring to light..
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All other ground is sinking sand!"
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Isn't Appollo an ex minister or something? Haven't been here that long, a few months but I think he said he used to have some kind of connection with a church, or was it his dad? Can't remember.
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Evangelist: Joel Osteen

Agenda: Find God through positive, self-esteem building message.

(yum, yum, this attracts many. positive message, encouraging, builds you up, up up! but wait.... hidden agenda... look carefully)

A former (?) Morman, his sermons and writings are sometimes reproached for their use of the concepts of prosperity theology, or the prosperity gospel, a belief that wealth and power are rewards for pious Christians. Osteen has received criticism from some in the Evangelical community.

After a 2005 appearance on Larry King Live, he was accused of not clearly affirming that Jesus Christ is the only way a person can reach Heaven. He stated repeatedly that only God knows a person's heart, but that as a believer in the Christian faith he believes in an intimate relationship with Jesus Christ. In late 2006, Osteen again appeared on Larry King Live and clarified his prior statement, saying he does in fact believe a personal relationship with Christ is the only way to Heaven.

On October 14, 2007, 60 Minutes ran a twelve minute segment on Osteen titled "Joel Osteen Answers his Critics" during which the Reformed theologian Michael Horton can be seen critiquing him. Horton tells CBS News correspondent Byron Pitts that Osteen's method of teaching is Christian heresy.

On the December 23, 2007, edition of Fox News Sunday, host Chris Wallace brought up criticisms of Osteen's lack of Scripture reference in his sermons, as well as his hesitancy to discuss sin as an integral part of life. Osteen responded: "And I am ultimately trying to do that, but I'm trying to teach people how to live their everyday lives, and so I do focus on it, probably not as much as some people would like."

Joel Osteen's first book, Your Best Life Now: 7 Steps to Living at Your Full Potential, was released in October 2004. In December 2006, he was named one of the year's "Ten Most Fascinating People" by Barbara Walters.[9] Former presidential candidate John McCain has described Osteen as "inspirational".

Name: Osteen, closely resembles esteem, or "overly esteemed"
 Quoting: Salt & Light



LOL !!!!!!!!!

Picking on Joel Olsteen??????

If more people were like him,

'Why dont you pick on Tribal machete bearing thugs in Africa or the Foster Care system abusers raping kids or the Meth Head lab workers or the drug cartels in Mexico. or the child porn producers all around the world.

Geez....

Youre weird. thats all you got? lol
 Quoting: SPARTACUS 23



He also said in interviews that he had gay couples attend his church. When questioned about whether being gay was wrong, he never really gave a straight answer. Now, any Christian knows that's a MAJOR red flag. If gay couples can attend your church regularly and feel COMFORTABLE there, than that means there's no conviction. He's not preaching against it obviously. If a gay couple entered our church, we would love them as God commanded us to love people of course. But I'm certain that my pastor would privately tell them that homosexuality is a sin, and an abomination, and try to counsel them. They would either be receptive to the help, or they would probably leave the church. That goes back to the fact that Olsteen is allowing these people to live in sin. Because of that, they are missing out on blessings that God has for them. As a pastor, you are to be a shepherd. That means you're to take care of the people. Sometimes that means convicting them in love. Not to mention he's ignoring the word of God. I have had doubts about him for a very long time .

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"What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul?" - Galatians 5: 22-23
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Evangelist: Joel Osteen

Agenda: Find God through positive, self-esteem building message.

(yum, yum, this attracts many. positive message, encouraging, builds you up, up up! but wait.... hidden agenda... look carefully)

A former (?) Morman, his sermons and writings are sometimes reproached for their use of the concepts of prosperity theology, or the prosperity gospel, a belief that wealth and power are rewards for pious Christians. Osteen has received criticism from some in the Evangelical community.

After a 2005 appearance on Larry King Live, he was accused of not clearly affirming that Jesus Christ is the only way a person can reach Heaven. He stated repeatedly that only God knows a person's heart, but that as a believer in the Christian faith he believes in an intimate relationship with Jesus Christ. In late 2006, Osteen again appeared on Larry King Live and clarified his prior statement, saying he does in fact believe a personal relationship with Christ is the only way to Heaven.

On October 14, 2007, 60 Minutes ran a twelve minute segment on Osteen titled "Joel Osteen Answers his Critics" during which the Reformed theologian Michael Horton can be seen critiquing him. Horton tells CBS News correspondent Byron Pitts that Osteen's method of teaching is Christian heresy.

On the December 23, 2007, edition of Fox News Sunday, host Chris Wallace brought up criticisms of Osteen's lack of Scripture reference in his sermons, as well as his hesitancy to discuss sin as an integral part of life. Osteen responded: "And I am ultimately trying to do that, but I'm trying to teach people how to live their everyday lives, and so I do focus on it, probably not as much as some people would like."

Joel Osteen's first book, Your Best Life Now: 7 Steps to Living at Your Full Potential, was released in October 2004. In December 2006, he was named one of the year's "Ten Most Fascinating People" by Barbara Walters.[9] Former presidential candidate John McCain has described Osteen as "inspirational".

Name: Osteen, closely resembles esteem, or "overly esteemed"
 Quoting: Salt & Light



LOL !!!!!!!!!

Picking on Joel Olsteen??????

If more people were like him,

'Why dont you pick on Tribal machete bearing thugs in Africa or the Foster Care system abusers raping kids or the Meth Head lab workers or the drug cartels in Mexico. or the child porn producers all around the world.

Geez....

Youre weird. thats all you got? lol
 Quoting: SPARTACUS 23



He also said that he had gay couples attend his church. Now, any Christian knows that's a MAJOR red flag. If gay couples can attend your church regularly and feel COMFORTABLE there, than that means there's no conviction. He's not preaching against it obviously. If a gay couple entered our church, we would love them as God commanded us to love people of course. But I'm certain that my pastor would privately tell them that homosexuality is a sin, and an abomination, and try to counsel them. They would either be receptive to the help, or they would probably leave the church. That goes back to the fact that Olsteen is allowing these people to live in sin. Because of that, they are missing out on blessings that God has for them. As a pastor, you are to be a shepherd. That means you're to take care of the people. Sometimes that means convicting them in love. Not to mention he's ignoring the word of God. I have had doubts him for a very long time .
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Olsteen Has a lot of blood on his hands..He don't even tell his congregation what they need to do to get into heaven..That is a big red flag for me..
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All other ground is sinking sand!"
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I used to work for a major televangelist. The OP is correct in his/her observation that major televangelists are Illuminati. There is a true God but it is NOT the God of the televangelists. What happens behind the scenes is evil beyond compare. There are almost no words for it.
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:9teen: Yeah, he was all over this thread like an ill fitting suit.
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Yep! Notice how quick he was to defend the darkness and stifle the light?
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yep, and throwing a good set of insults my way in the process.
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In the shill/debate world, that is called using the "ad hominem" card.
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interesting...
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I used to work for a major televangelist. The OP is correct in his/her observation that major televangelists are Illuminati. There is a true God but it is NOT the God of the televangelists. What happens behind the scenes is evil beyond compare. There are almost no words for it.
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i would be most grateful for some insights to what you know.
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Isn't Appollo an ex minister or something? Haven't been here that long, a few months but I think he said he used to have some kind of connection with a church, or was it his dad? Can't remember.
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Apollo says a lot of things about his supposed credentials. he seeks narcissistic supply. beware.
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I used to work for a major televangelist. The OP is correct in his/her observation that major televangelists are Illuminati. There is a true God but it is NOT the God of the televangelists. What happens behind the scenes is evil beyond compare. There are almost no words for it.
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That's very interesting. I sent you a private message.

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"What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul?" - Galatians 5: 22-23
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@OP I would be most happy to share but not in a public forum...these people are more dangerous than you know. If there is a way I can contact you I will.
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@OP I would be most happy to share but not in a public forum...these people are more dangerous than you know. If there is a way I can contact you I will.
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PM me, if you want.
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@OP I would be most happy to share but not in a public forum...these people are more dangerous than you know. If there is a way I can contact you I will.
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PM me, if you want.
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I am also interested. If you didn't see above, I sent you a PM as well. I sent a second message and included my contact info incase you would rather email me outside of GLP. Thanks.
"Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or terrified because of them, for the LORD your God goes with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you." - Matthew 22: 37-39

"What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul?" - Galatians 5: 22-23
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I used to work for a major televangelist. The OP is correct in his/her observation that major televangelists are Illuminati. There is a true God but it is NOT the God of the televangelists. What happens behind the scenes is evil beyond compare. There are almost no words for it.
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i would be most grateful for some insights to what you know.
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Salt, please be careful..Some things are better that we don't know..
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I sent a PM to you both- and yes, I would agree that it is probably better that you NOT know. It is a rabbit hole you will regret going down.
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you are so predictable Spartacus...so very very predictable
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good job OP
hf


all the trolls let you know you are on the right track

Osteen? We occasionally watch him here as comedy.

He blinks like a reptile!
and his "preaching" is so unbiblical, we watch for entertainment
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people who blink too much or people who blink too little might be an android, clone, or mind controlled. if those things are real.
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<snip>

I was an Ordained Minister in my Teens, yes, a Minister that gave talks

heres my favorite verse

The Son of Righteousness will arise with healing in his wings
Malachi 4:2
:eagle1:
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I guess they defrocked him.
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I sent a PM to you both- and yes, I would agree that it is probably better that you NOT know. It is a rabbit hole you will regret going down.
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my curiosity is peaked now.... ugh
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@OP I would be most happy to share but not in a public forum...these people are more dangerous than you know. If there is a way I can contact you I will.
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blinker Child sacrifice, bestiality, witchcraft, sex orgy's, devil worship and taking pleasure in telling lies, to name but a few.

The Cutting Edge website (Before it became a blunt sword.) used to shine a light into these dark places.
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OP

what you say makes a lot of sense.

I use to watch a few of those you talk about.

I can't stomach watching any of it today

NO

I turned off all the false doctrine!!

THey had better get right with God and soon!!
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i postulate that any preacher on the Trinity Broadcast Network is not of God.
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OP I agree with you!!

I use to watch it

NO more. I realize now it is all false and they all need to get right with God and soon!!
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OP

what you say makes a lot of sense.

I use to watch a few of those you talk about.

I can't stomach watching any of it today

NO

I turned off all the false doctrine!!

THey had better get right with God and soon!!
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agreed. hf
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I've read each and every post/reply on this subject that is to be found at this website. I see a variety of opinions promoting belief systems of all types. I've done much research into the Illuminati, and will continue to do more, and I do not begin to claim an expertise on this subject. Thus, I can only state my own beliefs, as garnered from my education from life experience and my God (and that is THE ALMIGHTY GOD...THE CREATOR OF ALL...MY HEAVENLY FATHER).

First of all, let me say that, although I am unsure if some of the popular TV evangelists of today are Illuminati or not, there are reports that they are named as being so...many times by alleged ex-Illuminati members. Whether this, in itself, is propoganda to illegitimize their ministries by that same organization so that people lose faith in them as Christian leaders, is unclear. What I can honestly affirm, without a doubt, is that I will NEVER believe that Jesus Christ was Illuminati! Jesus was God made flesh, and was born and died for the sole purpose of making it possible for we sinners to have a chance to make it into perfect Heaven because our filthy sin cannot exist there. Only his pure blood, which he shed in the ultimate sacrifice of love for us, makes that possible.

Second, I must agree with many here that some TV evangelists preach messages that are not wholly Biblical. Sure they quote scriptures about wealth, prosperity, etc...and yes, self-esteem, as well...the ones that actually use scripture, that is. However, many of these scriptures quoted are often taken out of context, and following scriptures that clarify God's meaning in the quoted ones are conveniently not mentioned. It is possible that these men and women begin their ministries with the best of intentions, but remember the old adage "Power corrupts" and unfortunately, these people gain very real power over the lives of their TV audience. And although they perform many good works and charity services, we must remember, our "good works" are like filthy rags in the eyes of God.

In conclusion, I must agree that many TV evangelists are false teachers, whether knowingly or not, and as teachers and preachers of God's Word, they will have a lot to answer for come Judgment for misleading God's children.

Of course, as I said before, this is my own belief and opininion, but it is the one shown to me by My Heavenly Father through prayer and education.

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