Perth, Western Australia is running out of water! | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1329734 United States 04/06/2011 09:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've got a friend in Perth. I was shocked when I asked him if rainwater catchment was popular in the urban areas and he said no. And while I've decided to hold off on setting up the systems I have in mind (until they cap fukishima) you might want to make some plans if you own any significant amount of roof line. I really liked Rainwater Harvesting for arid lands by Lancaster. You probably wouldn't be as interested in Volume 2 unless you have acreage, but the 1st and 3rd (if he's released the 3rd... I need to check) would be appropriate. If your just going to use plastic tanks you don't need the 3rd volume probably either. I calculated that with the substaintial roof lines I have and our average rainfall of around 30 cm would be enough to fill 30,000 gallons worth of tanks so it's worth it even in a place like Perth. Good luck - |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1330542 China 04/06/2011 10:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There was a guy in the 80s campaigning to build a pipeline from the kimberly down to Perth - a guaranteed, almost limitless supply of water. He did feasibility studies, the design was done - everything. Government kept derailing it and laughing it off, wouldn't put up any money. Would have paid off by now had it gone ahead. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1330422 Portugal 04/06/2011 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't worry. Soon it will be "raining" there. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1330422I just don't understand why no one is telling people to not go out in the rain. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1104715You will understand something when you will be bombarded with another type of "rain". Does "Protect the troops" ring a bell? [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
tellebe (OP) User ID: 1330490 Australia 04/06/2011 10:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There was a guy in the 80s campaigning to build a pipeline from the kimberly down to Perth - a guaranteed, almost limitless supply of water. He did feasibility studies, the design was done - everything. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1330542Government kept derailing it and laughing it off, wouldn't put up any money. Would have paid off by now had it gone ahead. Funny that, it is inevitable that water in West Australia's far north will eventually be channelled to the south, Premier Colin Barnett says. So they say that now, but will it happen now????? I don't trust them. [link to www.perthnow.com.au] |
miffed_33 User ID: 1326603 Australia 04/06/2011 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I live in Perth, Western Australia. We don't get much rain here at all and its a joke when we do because we hardly see that much. Now this has been going on for quite a while, summer has ended, we are in Autumn (fall) been hot and dry for so long and often wondered how our dam was going. Turns out its very very low, dam is nearly dry and our drinking water is running out. Quoting: tellebeIt's been on the news the last couple of days showing our pictures of very low dams but I get up and go to work and every second house still has their sprinklers going, trying to keep their stupid lawn green. Can't understand how they are not letting the public know how bad our situation is. I'm looking towards our future now and can see how dry and hot we are going to stay even though to the east and up North of us of Australia is flooding. It's not coming our way. The next few days is suppose to be rain! but, us here know its only going to be a couple of days of splatter on our faces. Reality is setting in. Sorry to hear that Perth, you can have our rain for a while-Northern NSW. It has basically rained here all Summer & we only really has 3 hot days this season, which is so weird for here as usually we complain ALL Summer about how stinking hot it is.Anyway I'll tell the rain fairies to take it your way lol. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1330565 Australia 04/06/2011 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I live in Perth, Western Australia. We don't get much rain here at all. Quoting: tellebeActually, that is complete bullshit. Perth gets 34 inches per year on average, which is similar to most east coast cities in the US. Seattle gets 40 inches per year. They just like to make water here seem like a scarce commodity by not building dams to justify increasing prices. They'd rather build desal plants as though Perth is fucking Dubai or something. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1330542 China 04/06/2011 10:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There was a guy in the 80s campaigning to build a pipeline from the kimberly down to Perth - a guaranteed, almost limitless supply of water. He did feasibility studies, the design was done - everything. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1330542Government kept derailing it and laughing it off, wouldn't put up any money. Would have paid off by now had it gone ahead. Funny that, it is inevitable that water in West Australia's far north will eventually be channelled to the south, Premier Colin Barnett says. So they say that now, but will it happen now????? I don't trust them. [link to www.perthnow.com.au] You can't trust the state governments to do it, because of the costs and time it takes to get it all done. From all the studies, public-consultation, native land rights negotiation, in-fighting etc etc...will take a decade. No state government will take on a project of that time frame, or stump up the money, as it usurps money away from other things which get them quick brownie points with constituents and voters. They'd rather build a great big fucking white elephant ferris wheel on the Perth foreshore or something BIG like that. Hoo-fucking-ray. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1330575 Australia 04/06/2011 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | get rdy for your desal plant... then a miraculous winter were your damns get full of water again... only to have your water bill higher then stage 3 restrictions due to a useless spending on a useless desal plant... oh wait that happened in Victoria... sorry.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1330565 Australia 04/06/2011 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | get rdy for your desal plant... then a miraculous winter were your damns get full of water again... only to have your water bill higher then stage 3 restrictions due to a useless spending on a useless desal plant... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1330575oh wait that happened in Victoria... sorry.. Yep - same scam in Victoria. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1330607 Australia 04/06/2011 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I live in Perth, Western Australia. We don't get much rain here at all. Quoting: tellebeActually, that is complete bullshit. Perth gets 34 inches per year on average, which is similar to most east coast cities in the US. Seattle gets 40 inches per year. They just like to make water here seem like a scarce commodity by not building dams to justify increasing prices. They'd rather build desal plants as though Perth is fucking Dubai or something. OP is right. I reside some 400 kilometers from perth and let me tell YOU, its fucking dry.We havent had barely a drop of rain since LAST july. The stock dams are all running dry. The district I live in has destocked, cause of the lack of feed in pastures. All the old people are saying we are going to need at least a week of steady good rain to START to bring things back.I dug a fence post hole the other day, drilled down about three feet, and its just dust. Absolutely no submoisture at all. The weather has changed. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1330565 Australia 04/06/2011 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I live in Perth, Western Australia. We don't get much rain here at all. Quoting: tellebeActually, that is complete bullshit. Perth gets 34 inches per year on average, which is similar to most east coast cities in the US. Seattle gets 40 inches per year. They just like to make water here seem like a scarce commodity by not building dams to justify increasing prices. They'd rather build desal plants as though Perth is fucking Dubai or something. OP is right. I reside some 400 kilometers from perth and let me tell YOU, its fucking dry.We havent had barely a drop of rain since LAST july. The stock dams are all running dry. The district I live in has destocked, cause of the lack of feed in pastures. All the old people are saying we are going to need at least a week of steady good rain to START to bring things back.I dug a fence post hole the other day, drilled down about three feet, and its just dust. Absolutely no submoisture at all. The weather has changed. It's Summer. Whilst there is no doubt that there is a drought in the wheatbelt, it isn't perth. The last two years Perth received the same amount of rainfall as London does on average. London has 8 million residents, Perth 1.5 million. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1330789 Australia 04/06/2011 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unfortunately, Perth is an example of a city that is heading for a disaster due to environmental and economic factors. Due to long term climate change, water will become a critical issue that only piping water from the North will alleviate. Perth is also the most sprawled city on earth per capita, meaning that when the next oil shock happens food wont get to the shelves, people will not be able to drive to work, and public transport will be inadequate. If the China bubble bursts Perth's main reason for existence will disseapear and there will be chronic umemployment; WA has a history of massive boom and busts. Perth's whole existence is actually very tenuous. |
oniongrass User ID: 1193082 United States 04/19/2011 12:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unfortunately, Perth is an example of a city that is heading for a disaster due to environmental and economic factors. Due to long term climate change, water will become a critical issue that only piping water from the North will alleviate. Perth is also the most sprawled city on earth per capita, meaning that when the next oil shock happens food wont get to the shelves, people will not be able to drive to work, and public transport will be inadequate. If the China bubble bursts Perth's main reason for existence will disseapear and there will be chronic umemployment; WA has a history of massive boom and busts. Perth's whole existence is actually very tenuous. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1330789Or, China could come in and do the infrastructure project like it has so many other places, maybe to build that water pipeline. The investor would charge some money for the water or get paid somehow, that would be negotiated. Why would the China bubble burst? They need space, you got it. . DON'T VAX, PROPHYLAX! ____________ There is no anger in Me: If one offers Me thorns and thistles, I will march to battle against him, And set all of them on fire. But if he holds fast to My refuge, He makes Me his friend; He makes Me his friend. (Isaiah 27:4-5) |