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Bring it ON!!
Generals are "replaced" in a row in the US-Army - and it´s continuing. Next one who retired: Rodney Kobayashi...
The last uproars and "retirements" all seem to be about those "alien" soldiers, serving for the US military, as these lines from the STRATEGYPAGES may show us:
"...And then there are the foreigners. About 35,000 non-citizens are currently serving on active duty in the U.S. Armed Forces, while another 12,000 serve in the Reserve Components. The navy has the largest proportion of non-citizens on active duty, almost 16,000, nearly half the total. The Marine Corps has about 6,500, the Army about 5,000, and the Air force about 3,000. The differences are the result of variations in the service regulations governing the re-enlistment of non-citizens. The Navy and Marine Corps place no restrictions, while the Army allows them to stay in for only 8 years of service, and the Air Force limits them to no more than 6. This is to encourage the non-citizen troops to become naturalized citizens. But naval tradition, the world over, has long tolerated non-citizens serving on ships for their entire careers. All services encourage non-citizens to apply for citizenship at the earliest opportunity, and many do. Some aliens in the service have been granted U.S. citizenship posthumously....
But let´s get back to the case of Gen. Byrnes:
The The ´Gang of Four´
Four of the names most often cited as promoters of programs like the "Goat Lab," the "Jedi Warriors," "Grill Flame," "Task Force Delta," and the "First Earth Battalion," have held top posts within the military intelligence and Special Operations commands:
Gen. Albert Stubblebine III was the head of U.S. Army Intelligence, INSCOM (Intelligence and Security Command), from 1981-84, during which time he launched a series of secret projects at Fort Meade, Md., involving remote viewing and other occult practices. General Stubblebine was, perhaps, the U.S. Army´s most senior and loudest advocate of the full gamut of New Age warfare.
Gen. Peter Schoomaker, the current U.S. Army Chief of Staff, was Commanding General of the Joint Special Operations Command (1994-96), Commander of the United States Army Special Operations Command (1996-97), and Commander in Chief of the United States Special Operations Command (1997-2000). According to a well-researched book exposing the New Age penetration of the U.S. military, The Men Who Stare at Goats, by Jon Ronson (Simon & Schuster, New York, 2004), General Schoomaker has created a think-tank, under the sponsorship of the SOC office, to expand the application of these bizarre occult and para-normal operations throughout the U.S. Army, as his contribution to President George W. Bush´s Global War on Terrorism (GWOT).
The other two in the "Gang of Four" are Gen. Wayne Downing - the Commander-in-Chief of the U.S. Special Operations Command, and earlier also directing all special operations during the December 1989 invasion of Panama and Gen. William "Jerry" Boykin, Commanding General of the U.S. Army Special Operations Command (Airborne) at Fort Bragg, N.C., from 1998-2000. Prior to that, he was the Commander of the elite counter-terror unit, Delta Force, from 1992-95.
Schoomaker was the "hit man" who removed Byrnes.
Army Chief of Staff Gen.Peter Schoomaker, who Donald Rumsfeld hauled out of retirement to head up the Army after Gen. Eric Shinseki was fired and after no other active duty general wanted the job, relieved Byrnes of his command at Fort Monroe, Virginia.
Byrnes had previous run-ins with the neo-cons in the Pentagon. In 2002, Byrnes was faced with being retired at Lt. Gen. after he clashed with then-Rumsfeld aide Stephen Cambone over proposed troop strength cuts. Then Army Secretary Thomas White, intervened on behalf of Byrnes and he received his fourth star. White was later fired by the Penta-neo-goons.
What has not been reported is that recently, one of Byrnes´ subordinate commands, Fort Rucker in Alabama, had been told to stand by for an influx of 50,000 military trainees -- a level the base has not seen since the Vietnam War. Byrnes´ relief of command came on the heels of the Pentagon announcing that it might permit Spanish-language entrance examinations. Byrnes, who was in charge of Army training, would not only face recruits with lower education levels and past criminal records, but a lack of proficiency in English. Pentagon insiders report that it was Byrnes´ policy disagreements with the Pentagon neo-cons over the new recruitment policies and the potential for calling up Army retirees and reinstating military conscription without adequate TRADOC funding that resulted in his firing.
And her comes the next one - responsible for recruiting and training in the WHOLE US-Army - from an article in the Seattle Post
General from area retires
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER STAFF
Monday, August 22, 2005
Rodney Kobayashi, one of the highest ranking "civilian-soldiers" in the Army, retired Sunday as a two-star general and commander of the 91st Division in a ceremony at Fort Lewis.
Kobayashi will be returning full time to his civilian life as a regional manager for the Internal Revenue Service, based in Seattle. He lives in Sammamish.
The 91st Division is based in Dublin, Calif. Kobayashi previously held assistant command of the 104th Division in Vancouver, Wash.
The personal misconduct charges were concocted by the Pentagon to cover up the fact that there are serious disagreements with Bush and Rumsfeld among the flag officer ranks in the military.
Four star General Kevin Byrnes: Fired for arguing with the Rumsfeld neo-con clique in the Pentagon
Byrnes was also associated with a group of officers who spent time at the U.S. Army War College at Carlisle Barracks in Pennsylvania. The Army War College has been a center of opposition to the war in Iraq and it is believed that Byrnes was recognized by the neo-cons as one of the unofficial leaders of a group of Army flag rank opponents of Bush´s war in Iraq and potential military action against Iran....
He simply was against more Green Card soldiers...
Far Sight 3 |
| Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:08 AM | | Re: General Byrnes: "I can´t train 50,000 Mexicans and give an entrance exam in SPANISH without proper funding for that base." | Quote |
Huh.
Bump |
| Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:08 AM | | Re: General Byrnes: "I can´t train 50,000 Mexicans and give an entrance exam in SPANISH without proper funding for that base." | Quote |
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| Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:08 AM | | Re: General Byrnes: "I can´t train 50,000 Mexicans and give an entrance exam in SPANISH without proper funding for that base." | Quote |
I told you that this is why Bush wants these illegals here. he´ll give them citizenship for their familes in exchange for dying in Iraq/Iran/whoever it is next week..... |
| Big Boykin Bump for Bragg
12/8/2005 10:08 AM | | Re: General Byrnes: "I can´t train 50,000 Mexicans and give an entrance exam in SPANISH without proper funding for that base." | Quote |
yup |
| Innocentwolf15
12/8/2005 10:08 AM | | Re: General Byrnes: "I can´t train 50,000 Mexicans and give an entrance exam in SPANISH without proper funding for that base." | Quote |
Well seems I got My question answered!...I think we outta round up more of em..n send em yonder!...after all we are paying fer they´re Invasion of our homeland!..I didn´t know it was already in place!...not that I´m heartless...I just think if they´re gonna invade us...why not round em up..n put em to real work?...go prove ya wanna be an American!.. |
| An nonymous
12/8/2005 10:08 AM | | Re: General Byrnes: "I can´t train 50,000 Mexicans and give an entrance exam in SPANISH without proper funding for that base." | Quote |
Where is General Kevin Byrnes? Has anybody heard from him? |
| Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:08 AM | | Re: General Byrnes: "I can´t train 50,000 Mexicans and give an entrance exam in SPANISH without proper funding for that base." | Quote |
Maybe they aren´t thinking Iraq, or Iran
Now where would Spanish seaking troops come in handy? |
| Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:08 AM | | Re: General Byrnes: "I can´t train 50,000 Mexicans and give an entrance exam in SPANISH without proper funding for that base." | Quote |
Speaking |
| Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:08 AM | | Re: General Byrnes: "I can´t train 50,000 Mexicans and give an entrance exam in SPANISH without proper funding for that base." | Quote |
Take those fifty thousand and send them right to Iraq.
Tell them, Iraq is the land of the free, but you have to make it that way.
Boy they´d love us for that.
Islamic Mexican food, I need some right away! |
| Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:08 AM | | Re: General Byrnes: "I can´t train 50,000 Mexicans and give an entrance exam in SPANISH without proper funding for that base." | Quote |
Yes, it´s called "Silent Invasion" and it
IS happening NOW.
I´ve wondered if anyone asked the "Rave"
attendees if any or many of the militia were
"obviously" of Mexican or Chinese descent. |
| Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:08 AM | | Re: General Byrnes: "I can´t train 50,000 Mexicans and give an entrance exam in SPANISH without proper funding for that base." | Quote |
"Gen. William "Jerry" Boykin, Commanding General of the U.S. Army Special Operations Command (Airborne) at Fort Bragg, N.C., from 1998-2000. Prior to that, he was the Commander of the elite counter-terror unit, Delta Force, from 1992-95."
Boykin has teamed up with Stephen Cambone at the Pentagon to run the crimminal TF-121 operation.
Cambone was one of the early proponents of firing General Byrnes.
[link to armchairgeneralist.typepad.com]
Clip:
"In 2002, Byrnes was faced with being retired at Lt. Gen. after he clashed with then-Rumsfeld aide Stephen Cambone over proposed troop strength cuts. Then Army Secretary Thomas White, intervened on behalf of Byrnes and he received his fourth star. White was later fired by the Pentagon neo-cons."
TF-121 is currently under investigation by the FBI. Good article on TF-121 at:
[link to www.apfn.net] |
| Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:08 AM | | Re: General Byrnes: "I can´t train 50,000 Mexicans and give an entrance exam in SPANISH without proper funding for that base." | Quote |
[link to www.jagcentral.org]
Clip:
"What has not been reported is that recently, one of Byrnes´ subordinate commands, Fort Rucker in Alabama, had been told to stand by for an influx of 50,000 military trainees -- a level the base has not seen since the Vietnam War. Byrnes´ relief of command came on the heels of the Pentagon announcing that it might permit Spanish-language entrance examinations. Byrnes, who was in charge of Army training, would not only face recruits with lower education levels and past criminal records, but a lack of proficiency in English. Pentagon insiders report that it was Byrnes´ policy disagreements with the Pentagon neo-cons over the new recruitment policies and the potential for calling up Army retirees and reinstating military conscription without adequate TRADOC funding that resulted in his firing. The personal misconduct charges were concocted by the Pentagon to cover up the fact that there are serious disagreements with Bush and Rumsfeld among the flag officer ranks in the military.
Hmm...adultery seemed too convenient of a reason. The plot thickens. The Daily Kos has a different read on the true reason: a possible upcoming signature by Gen. Byrnes on a very public and critical open letter by 10 retired high-ranking generals:
Gen. Byrnes, scheduled to retire in November, may very well have been just about to add his name to that list. Remember, Gen. Byrnes has an otherwise unblemished 36-year record for service and was the head of TRADOC the Army´s training division. Reading his speeches, one can only imagine this man´s reaction to Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo if he (correctly, IMHO) perceived that the civilian leadership was scapegoating soldiers and their "poor training" for carrying out the administration´s illegal torture policies.
Bush and Rumsfeld (who are meeting tonight in Crawford) had to move quickly to preempt such a credible and high-profile exposure of military dissent that could threaten to tip the balance in the coming debate over the anti-torture provisions in the defense bill and force the President to veto that juicy, pork-filled bill.
Best guess? Rumsfeld learned or surmised how Byrnes felt and anticipated his coming plans to join "the 11" and ordered some quick digging into Byrnes´ private life. Turns out Byrnes, separated from his wife over a year ago but not yet officially divorced, had a girlfriend." |
| ANON
12/8/2005 10:08 AM | | Re: General Byrnes: "I can´t train 50,000 Mexicans and give an entrance exam in SPANISH without proper funding for that base." | Quote |
I had run into most of this info. before except the reference to "the eleven"...joining the eleven? wasn´t he already one of the ll four stars or is there another group of ll retirees being referred to?
thanks for clarification
maybe it has already been mentioned, but between General Bynres and General Kobyashi (sp?), they trained ALL the troops trained in the U.S. |
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