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BAD NEWS FOR OBAMA

1890 SS NUMBER TRACED TO JOHN PAUL LUDWIG

This news is breaking: This is bad news for Obama.


This is what we know so far. We get more info on Jean Paul Ludwig, who was born in 1890, had CT SSN obtained in 1976 and died in HI around 1981. There are 2 SS numbers for him and records show him dying in 2 different states: CA and HI around 1981.

The reason this is important, is because there is a similar fact pattern to Obama. Barack Obama is residing today in the White House, using CT SS number 042-68-4425, issued in CT in and around March 1977 to an elderly individual named John Paul Ludwig, who was born in 1890, who is presumed dead and whose death was either never reported to the SS administration or reported and deleted from the database by someone.

Obama's maternal grandmother Madelyn Dunham, worked as a part-timer or volunteer in the Probate Office in the Honolulu Hawaii Courthouse. Thus she would have access to the estate files of anyone who died there. Thus if the elderly man originally from CT died intestate in Hawaii with no known relatives, Grandma Dunham would have known this person is a prime candidate to steal the SSN of since there would be no known surviving family worrying about the death benefit from SSN and that the benefit was not likely applied for and thus SSA did not know he died. Thus the SSN remained active for the deceased person and Obama could "adopt" it as his own. This is a clear case of identity theft at the federal level.

This is what we know about Ludwig:

In 1924, Jean Paul Ludwig worked for Senator Reed of PA, in Washington DC.

On the ship manifest of ‘Leviathan’, he listed Senator Reed in Washington, DC as his empl., in answer to where he intended to live in the US.

Jean Paul Ludwig had been in the US for 3 yrs in 1924, but he was listed on the “Immigration” manifest and refered to as an alien in the column headings.

Listed under “States Immigration Officer at Port of Arrival”, New York, Aug 12, 1924:

Jean Paul Ludwig, Date of Arrival: Aug 12, 1924, Port of Departure:
Cherbourg, France, Line#: 0008

Line #8: By Whom was Passage Paid: Emp. Mr. Reed; Whether in possession of $50: Yes; Whether ever before in US: Yes; If Yes-Period of Years: 3; Where: PA

Whether going to join relative or friend: Empl. Senator Reed, Washingto, DC

Length of time alien intends to remain in the US: Always

Height 5′5″, Complexion Dk., Hair Br., Eyes Br., Marks of ID: None

Place of Birth: France, Ammersville.

[link to www.ellisisland.org]


First Name: Jean P.
Last Name: Ludwig
Ethnicity: France
Last Place of Residence: Washington, D.C.
Date of Arrival: Aug 12, 1924
Age at Arrival: 34 Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Leviathan
Port of Departure: Cherbourg, France
Manifest Line Number: 0008

U.S. Social Security Death Index
Name: Jean Ludwig
Birth Date: 17 February 1890
Zip Code of Last Residence: 96816 (Honolulu,HI)
Death Date: June 1981
Estimated Age at Death: 91
Last edited by Apuzzo; 03-14-2011 at 05:41 PM.

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Holy shit.

I think that Illuminati thread was right. Obama is some deported moran from sweden.

This just gets freakier.

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they did have social security numbers until the 1940's so how they tracing any one to 1890????
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Not one person alive who will call him on this.


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Surely Trump will pick up on the SS# thing, its MUCH bigger than the BC issue.

Identity theft FELONY!!
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they did have social security numbers until the 1940's so how they tracing any one to 1890????
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READ ASSWIPE.

the man was BORN in 1890, got the SSN in 1976. Headline is a little confusing, but the facts are there if you READ.
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they did have social security numbers until the 1940's so how they tracing any one to 1890????
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Why are you paying for this board if you don´t even read the posts?
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they did have social security numbers until the 1940's so how they tracing any one to 1890????
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Social security numbers began being issued in the 1930s, during FDR's administration

My father was born in 1921, before SSNs existed, but he was issued a SSN in 1939.

It didn't have to be issued at birth, the same way someone can become an American citizen at the age of 60, and then carry a valid passport. The passport will list their birth date and place of birth (let's say Germany 1949) even though they weren't born here.

The important thing to know is that SSN are not recycled!
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FOLKS WE FOUND WHY THEY DID THEY GIFFORDS SHOOTING. THIS!!!!!!1
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BAD NEWS FOR OBAMA

1890 SS NUMBER TRACED TO JOHN PAUL LUDWIG

This news is breaking: This is bad news for Obama.


This is what we know so far. We get more info on Jean Paul Ludwig, who was born in 1890, had CT SSN obtained in 1976 and died in HI around 1981. There are 2 SS numbers for him and records show him dying in 2 different states: CA and HI around 1981.

The reason this is important, is because there is a similar fact pattern to Obama. Barack Obama is residing today in the White House, using CT SS number 042-68-4425, issued in CT in and around March 1977 to an elderly individual named John Paul Ludwig, who was born in 1890, who is presumed dead and whose death was either never reported to the SS administration or reported and deleted from the database by someone.

Obama's maternal grandmother Madelyn Dunham, worked as a part-timer or volunteer in the Probate Office in the Honolulu Hawaii Courthouse. Thus she would have access to the estate files of anyone who died there. Thus if the elderly man originally from CT died intestate in Hawaii with no known relatives, Grandma Dunham would have known this person is a prime candidate to steal the SSN of since there would be no known surviving family worrying about the death benefit from SSN and that the benefit was not likely applied for and thus SSA did not know he died. Thus the SSN remained active for the deceased person and Obama could "adopt" it as his own. This is a clear case of identity theft at the federal level.

This is what we know about Ludwig:

In 1924, Jean Paul Ludwig worked for Senator Reed of PA, in Washington DC.

On the ship manifest of ‘Leviathan’, he listed Senator Reed in Washington, DC as his empl., in answer to where he intended to live in the US.

Jean Paul Ludwig had been in the US for 3 yrs in 1924, but he was listed on the “Immigration” manifest and refered to as an alien in the column headings.

Listed under “States Immigration Officer at Port of Arrival”, New York, Aug 12, 1924:

Jean Paul Ludwig, Date of Arrival: Aug 12, 1924, Port of Departure:
Cherbourg, France, Line#: 0008

Line #8: By Whom was Passage Paid: Emp. Mr. Reed; Whether in possession of $50: Yes; Whether ever before in US: Yes; If Yes-Period of Years: 3; Where: PA

Whether going to join relative or friend: Empl. Senator Reed, Washingto, DC

Length of time alien intends to remain in the US: Always

Height 5′5″, Complexion Dk., Hair Br., Eyes Br., Marks of ID: None

Place of Birth: France, Ammersville.

[link to www.ellisisland.org]


First Name: Jean P.
Last Name: Ludwig
Ethnicity: France
Last Place of Residence: Washington, D.C.
Date of Arrival: Aug 12, 1924
Age at Arrival: 34 Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Leviathan
Port of Departure: Cherbourg, France
Manifest Line Number: 0008

U.S. Social Security Death Index
Name: Jean Ludwig
Birth Date: 17 February 1890
Zip Code of Last Residence: 96816 (Honolulu,HI)
Death Date: June 1981
Estimated Age at Death: 91
Last edited by Apuzzo; 03-14-2011 at 05:41 PM.

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wow just amazing
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they did have social security numbers until the 1940's so how they tracing any one to 1890????
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READ ASSWIPE.

the man was BORN in 1890, got the SSN in 1976. Headline is a little confusing, but the facts are there if you READ.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1284560


it's early and i didn't read no stinking link.....
yet and still...
I already know that 0bama's ss number matches, or in sequence with the group of people who were born in the 1990's, not the 1890's...knew that two years ago..

His ss number should have matched up with the people born though the 1960's...

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they did have social security numbers until the 1940's so how they tracing any one to 1890????
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READ ASSWIPE.

the man was BORN in 1890, got the SSN in 1976. Headline is a little confusing, but the facts are there if you READ.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1284560


LOL
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they did have social security numbers until the 1940's so how they tracing any one to 1890????
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s226
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Holy shit.

I think that Illuminati thread was right. Obama is some deported moran from sweden.

This just gets freakier.

bump
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no, he is black cocksucker who blew right people
You gotta stop that anti-obama feelings .He is THE president and will remain till end of his term
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they did have social security numbers until the 1940's so how they tracing any one to 1890????
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Anyone without a social security number can apply for one at anytime... You don't HAVE to apply at birth.
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they did have social security numbers until the 1940's so how they tracing any one to 1890????
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s226
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They still have it WRONG... see above post. unless he using a different one this year... the one he had when he took office matched the 18 t0 to 20 year old's at the time.. we checked it back then..
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they did have social security numbers until the 1940's so how they tracing any one to 1890????
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Anyone without a social security number can apply for one at anytime... You don't HAVE to apply at birth.
 Quoting: mjrichardson1975


i understand that..i beleive you're still matched with you age groups...

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First Name: Jean P.
Last Name: Ludwig
Ethnicity: France
Last Place of Residence: Washington, D.C.
Date of Arrival: Aug 12, 1924Age at Arrival: 34 Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Leviathan
Port of Departure: Cherbourg, France
Manifest Line Number: 0008

U.S. Social Security Death Index
Name: Jean Ludwig
Birth Date: 17 February 1890
Zip Code of Last Residence: 96816 (Honolulu,HI)
Death Date: June 1981
Estimated Age at Death: 91
Last edited by Apuzzo; 03-14-2011 at 05:41 PM.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 253087

Oily Taint's debunked antique.

Since when were Obama's or any other POTUS SSNs made public?
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they did have social security numbers until the 1940's so how they tracing any one to 1890????
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s226
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316293


They still have it WRONG... see above post. unless he using a different one this year... the one he had when he took office matched the 18 t0 to 20 year old's at the time.. we checked it back then..
 Quoting: ceawaves

source, link, anything?
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Blacks and hippies were notorious for multiple identities.
Obama's dirtbag hippie mother amd her commie parents
were an excellent breeding ground for creating the commie
rat bastard that occupies the White House.

He's had multiple names and identities and religions.

He's a chameleon.
If his puppetmasters hadn't decided to place him at the top,
they could have put him anywhere on the chessboard.
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Being born in 1961, (if that is the case for Osama-bama), then by 1981 he would be 20 years old. Back then there was no age requirement to get a social security number that I can remember. The only reason I can remember to get one back then is if one wanted a job. Back the people usually go their social security number around age 14 or 16. Waiting till 20 to get your first job is a little lame. Considering who it is lame fits.
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FOLKS WE FOUND WHY THEY DID THEY GIFFORDS SHOOTING. THIS!!!!!!1
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Think how desparate they would get if the info got out that Giffords shooting was a ruse. utter embaraasment.

Well think how embrassed they would be if The Donald's private investifators blow the lid off obamas fake brith certificate andf his mom illegally using teh hawii records from her job...
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Blacks and hippies were notorious for multiple identities.
Obama's dirtbag hippie mother amd her commie parents
were an excellent breeding ground for creating the commie
rat bastard that occupies the White House.

He's had multiple names and identities and religions.

He's a chameleon.
If his puppetmasters hadn't decided to place him at the top,
they could have put him anywhere on the chessboard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1334760

If Oily Taint says so it must be true.

Do you know what is in common to Birthers' champions Orly Taitz, Phil Berg and Pamela Geller?

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I’m still going with the “he’s an ancient alien/antichrist from Atlantis who’s been manipulating the Government for millennia” theory.
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they did have social security numbers until the 1940's so how they tracing any one to 1890????
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s226
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316293


They still have it WRONG... see above post. unless he using a different one this year... the one he had when he took office matched the 18 t0 to 20 year old's at the time.. we checked it back then..
 Quoting: ceawaves

source, link, anything?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1238809


like i said it was back then.. What got our attention was that several of us had kids that age.. and 0bama's SS number was in the same group of numbers as this age group.. if you have ever noticed the ss numbers are grouped in age sequences like that.. He also never registered for the draft..
No link no nothing.. We just looked it up and talked about it..I beleive he had several ss numbers at the time or there was several BO's with ss numbers here in the USA.. if you can imagine that.. it was over 2 years ago..
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How did anyone get obama's S.S.?
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So this is why Granny got suicided soon after he took office. Ewww. This douche president gets creepier each day. Treasonous s.o.b.

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Being born in 1961, (if that is the case for Osama-bama), then by 1981 he would be 20 years old. Back then there was no age requirement to get a social security number that I can remember. The only reason I can remember to get one back then is if one wanted a job. Back the people usually go their social security number around age 14 or 16. Waiting till 20 to get your first job is a little lame. Considering who it is lame fits.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 652961


right but they're still grouped in certain numbers.. what ever the case.. means he's only had a ss number less than 25 years..
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s226
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316293


They still have it WRONG... see above post. unless he using a different one this year... the one he had when he took office matched the 18 t0 to 20 year old's at the time.. we checked it back then..
 Quoting: ceawaves

source, link, anything?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1238809


like i said it was back then.. What got our attention was that several of us had kids that age.. and 0bama's SS number was in the same group of numbers as this age group.. if you have ever noticed the ss numbers are grouped in age sequences like that.. He also never registered for the draft..
No link no nothing.. We just looked it up and talked about it..I beleive he had several ss numbers at the time or there was several BO's with ss numbers here in the USA.. if you can imagine that.. it was over 2 years ago..
 Quoting: ceawaves



from [link to www.ssa.gov]

Q18: Is there any significance to the numbers assigned in the Social Security Number?

A: Yes. The first three digits are assigned by the geographical region in which the person was residing at the time he/she obtained a number. Generally, numbers were assigned beginning in the northeast and moving westward. So people on the east coast have the lowest numbers and those on the west coast have the highest numbers. The remaining six digits in the number are more or less randomly assigned and were organized to facilitate the early manual bookkeeping operations associated with the creation of Social Security in the 1930s.



AND unrelated to your statement but related to the thread:


Q20: Are Social Security numbers reused after a person dies?

A: No. We do not reassign a Social Security number (SSN) after the number holder's death. Even though we have issued over 453 million SSNs so far, and we assign about 5 and one-half million new numbers a year, the current numbering system will provide us with enough new numbers for several generations into the future with no changes in the numbering system.

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