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Just another made up story for the racists to latch onto in their desperate hope to get a Black man out of their precious "White" house. LOL

If they only knew how many black folks actually ran things that they have no clue about, they would have a Archie Bunker level conniption fit! ROTFHLMAO

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You just *have* to turn this into racist shit don't you.

Shill.
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Not my fault the shoe fits......where was all the "outrage" when Arnold Schwarzenterminator wanted to run.....many of the SAME (white) folks who are drooling over these Obama BC "stories" are the SAME ones who were SERIOUSLY talking about amending the conststution just for Ahnuld.... LOL
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The difference is between someone who would have been an honest and valid president, and the fact that we have a criminal in office. If Obama had been honest, people might have been just as earnest about amending the constitution for him. However, you might note that it wasn't amended, and Obama is a criminal.

But I guess because he's black (or tries to say he is) that means he doesn't play by the same rules as the rest of us? Black people can break the law, but the people holding them accountable are racists?

Why is this so hard? You can turn anything into being about race, because you're obviously racists, but the truth is no one gives a wet noodle what color you are. However, how you ACT matters. No one likes a racist, so stop trying to make this about the freaking color of your skin.

Obama isn't even black!! He's mostly Arab! Or would you like to try and play the Arab card now?
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Oh I know....every other white president has been soooooo honest and upstanding...

I mean Bush Jr didn't LIE anout WMD sending thousands of Americans to die and killink hundreds of thousands of foreign civilians....noooooo

Bush SENIOR before him never lied about Iran-Contra Noooooo.....he was a SAINT.....

LOL you racists are so transparent.....and you are so DUMB to think that no one sees RIGHT THROUGH YOU..

I'd have more respect for you just admitting that you hate him because he's Black than coming up with LAME excuses like "he lied" LOL
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BAD NEWS FOR OBAMA

1890 SS NUMBER TRACED TO JOHN PAUL LUDWIG

This news is breaking: This is bad news for Obama.


This is what we know so far. We get more info on Jean Paul Ludwig, who was born in 1890, had CT SSN obtained in 1976 and died in HI around 1981. There are 2 SS numbers for him and records show him dying in 2 different states: CA and HI around 1981.

The reason this is important, is because there is a similar fact pattern to Obama. Barack Obama is residing today in the White House, using CT SS number 042-68-4425, issued in CT in and around March 1977 to an elderly individual named John Paul Ludwig, who was born in 1890, who is presumed dead and whose death was either never reported to the SS administration or reported and deleted from the database by someone.

Obama's maternal grandmother Madelyn Dunham, worked as a part-timer or volunteer in the Probate Office in the Honolulu Hawaii Courthouse. Thus she would have access to the estate files of anyone who died there. Thus if the elderly man originally from CT died intestate in Hawaii with no known relatives, Grandma Dunham would have known this person is a prime candidate to steal the SSN of since there would be no known surviving family worrying about the death benefit from SSN and that the benefit was not likely applied for and thus SSA did not know he died. Thus the SSN remained active for the deceased person and Obama could "adopt" it as his own. This is a clear case of identity theft at the federal level.

This is what we know about Ludwig:

In 1924, Jean Paul Ludwig worked for Senator Reed of PA, in Washington DC.

On the ship manifest of ‘Leviathan’, he listed Senator Reed in Washington, DC as his empl., in answer to where he intended to live in the US.

Jean Paul Ludwig had been in the US for 3 yrs in 1924, but he was listed on the “Immigration” manifest and refered to as an alien in the column headings.

Listed under “States Immigration Officer at Port of Arrival”, New York, Aug 12, 1924:

Jean Paul Ludwig, Date of Arrival: Aug 12, 1924, Port of Departure:
Cherbourg, France, Line#: 0008

Line #8: By Whom was Passage Paid: Emp. Mr. Reed; Whether in possession of $50: Yes; Whether ever before in US: Yes; If Yes-Period of Years: 3; Where: PA

Whether going to join relative or friend: Empl. Senator Reed, Washingto, DC

Length of time alien intends to remain in the US: Always

Height 5′5″, Complexion Dk., Hair Br., Eyes Br., Marks of ID: None

Place of Birth: France, Ammersville.

[link to www.ellisisland.org]


First Name: Jean P.
Last Name: Ludwig
Ethnicity: France
Last Place of Residence: Washington, D.C.
Date of Arrival: Aug 12, 1924
Age at Arrival: 34 Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Leviathan
Port of Departure: Cherbourg, France
Manifest Line Number: 0008

U.S. Social Security Death Index
Name: Jean Ludwig
Birth Date: 17 February 1890
Zip Code of Last Residence: 96816 (Honolulu,HI)
Death Date: June 1981
Estimated Age at Death: 91
Last edited by Apuzzo; 03-14-2011 at 05:41 PM.

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Thread: WAS OBAMA REALLY BORN IN 1881?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 253087


Let me assist by adding to what you know:

Obama is very likely the biological son of Frank Marshall Davis, not Barack Obama, Sr. (no need to go into the evidence of this now for what I am about to say).

Obama was raised by his grandparents Dunham in Hawaii for many years while his mother abandoned him and his father abandoned him.

Guess who lived just down the street and was friends with the grandparents Dunham? Frank Marshall Davis. So, Davis was his father figure, if not his ACTUAL father, and HELPED raise him.

Guess who Frank Marsahll Davis was married to? A white woman named Helen Canfield Peck. Who was Canfield? She was a wealthy socialite.

Guess where Canfield was from? Connecticut. Canfield has several highly placed government officials in her family lineage, including governors, etc.

Who would have the power, and access, to do something like obtain a fake SSN? Helen Canfield.

Helen Canfield and Frank Marshall Davis were both card-carrying members of the Communist party. So were the grandparents Dunham - BOTH of them.

Guess where Davis and the elder Dunhams are from? Kansas.
Guess where Davis and the elder Dunhams went next? Chicago.
Guess where they were assigned by the CP after doing various Communist activities in Chicago? Hawaii.

Starting to get the picture here, everyone?
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since folks are derailing teh thread. i thought i would refresh with the meat of it again in quotes above for those who missed it.
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"Obama isn't even black!! He's mostly Arab! Or would you like to try and play the Arab card now?

He's "mostly Arab"???

Oh...my god....is your sister your girlfriend too? What back-jerkwater area of the country do YOU live in? LOL

I can smell the inbreeding from here! LOL Too retarded. LOL
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Re: Anonymous:

"Let me assist by adding to what you know:

Obama is very likely the biological son of Frank Marshall Davis, not Barack Obama, Sr. (no need to go into the evidence of this now for what I am about to say).

Obama was raised by his grandparents Dunham in Hawaii for many years while his mother abandoned him and his father abandoned him." ......& Blah Blah Blah


Yes, we know..... when you have no facts, just make stuff up and make your statement about what you made up REALLY, REALLY, LONG.....

that way people might forget that you sound like an idiot because as we all know if you put really DUMB stuff in REALLY LONG PARAGRAPHS no one will realize how stupid you are. LOL
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facts:
1) he has not shown his birth certificate

2) millions of dollar spent by dem party to protect against the issue...

did the dem want so much a change and no more reps that they knew incertitude but were ready to take the risk and be in the white house ? of course
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310194

Myths, not facts:

1) he did

2) no, they weren't
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335881


1) Walk into a passport or DMV office and when they ask for your birth certificate, hand them a paper with a website written on it and tell them it's on the site. See how far that gets you. What he showed proves absolutely nothing.

2) 0bama has paid high-priced law firms to defend the lawsuits that are asking for his birth certificate. This has been going on for over two years now. By all accounts, for the over 50 lawsuits, it cost over $2 million. And chances are it's taxpayer money.
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Re: Anonymous:

"Let me assist by adding to what you know:

Obama is very likely the biological son of Frank Marshall Davis, not Barack Obama, Sr. (no need to go into the evidence of this now for what I am about to say).

Obama was raised by his grandparents Dunham in Hawaii for many years while his mother abandoned him and his father abandoned him." ......& Blah Blah Blah


Yes, we know..... when you have no facts, just make stuff up and make your statement about what you made up REALLY, REALLY, LONG.....

that way people might forget that you sound like an idiot because as we all know if you put really DUMB stuff in REALLY LONG PARAGRAPHS no one will realize how stupid you are. LOL

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Obama looks kinda like Frank Marshall Davis.

[link to www.reformation.org]

Sometime between 1927 and 1948, Frank Marshall Davis was recruited as a special agent or informer for the FBI—Federal Bureau of Inquisition....As a newspaperman, Davis had the perfect opportunity to know what was happening in Chicago. As a left wing or "Communist" sympathizer, no one would suspect him of association with the ultra right wing FBI.

As an additional cover-up, the FBI was extremely segregated and did not publicly admit black agents until the administration of President Kennedy.
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BAD NEWS FOR OBAMA

1890 SS NUMBER TRACED TO JOHN PAUL LUDWIG

This news is breaking: This is bad news for Obama.


This is what we know so far. We get more info on Jean Paul Ludwig, who was born in 1890, had CT SSN obtained in 1976 and died in HI around 1981. There are 2 SS numbers for him and records show him dying in 2 different states: CA and HI around 1981.

The reason this is important, is because there is a similar fact pattern to Obama. Barack Obama is residing today in the White House, using CT SS number 042-68-4425, issued in CT in and around March 1977 to an elderly individual named John Paul Ludwig, who was born in 1890, who is presumed dead and whose death was either never reported to the SS administration or reported and deleted from the database by someone.

Obama's maternal grandmother Madelyn Dunham, worked as a part-timer or volunteer in the Probate Office in the Honolulu Hawaii Courthouse. Thus she would have access to the estate files of anyone who died there. Thus if the elderly man originally from CT died intestate in Hawaii with no known relatives, Grandma Dunham would have known this person is a prime candidate to steal the SSN of since there would be no known surviving family worrying about the death benefit from SSN and that the benefit was not likely applied for and thus SSA did not know he died. Thus the SSN remained active for the deceased person and Obama could "adopt" it as his own. This is a clear case of identity theft at the federal level.

This is what we know about Ludwig:

In 1924, Jean Paul Ludwig worked for Senator Reed of PA, in Washington DC.

On the ship manifest of ‘Leviathan’, he listed Senator Reed in Washington, DC as his empl., in answer to where he intended to live in the US.

Jean Paul Ludwig had been in the US for 3 yrs in 1924, but he was listed on the “Immigration” manifest and refered to as an alien in the column headings.

Listed under “States Immigration Officer at Port of Arrival”, New York, Aug 12, 1924:

Jean Paul Ludwig, Date of Arrival: Aug 12, 1924, Port of Departure:
Cherbourg, France, Line#: 0008

Line #8: By Whom was Passage Paid: Emp. Mr. Reed; Whether in possession of $50: Yes; Whether ever before in US: Yes; If Yes-Period of Years: 3; Where: PA

Whether going to join relative or friend: Empl. Senator Reed, Washingto, DC

Length of time alien intends to remain in the US: Always

Height 5′5″, Complexion Dk., Hair Br., Eyes Br., Marks of ID: None

Place of Birth: France, Ammersville.

[link to www.ellisisland.org]


First Name: Jean P.
Last Name: Ludwig
Ethnicity: France
Last Place of Residence: Washington, D.C.
Date of Arrival: Aug 12, 1924
Age at Arrival: 34 Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Leviathan
Port of Departure: Cherbourg, France
Manifest Line Number: 0008

U.S. Social Security Death Index
Name: Jean Ludwig
Birth Date: 17 February 1890
Zip Code of Last Residence: 96816 (Honolulu,HI)
Death Date: June 1981
Estimated Age at Death: 91
Last edited by Apuzzo; 03-14-2011 at 05:41 PM.

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Thread: WAS OBAMA REALLY BORN IN 1881?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 253087


Let me assist by adding to what you know:

Obama is very likely the biological son of Frank Marshall Davis, not Barack Obama, Sr. (no need to go into the evidence of this now for what I am about to say).

Obama was raised by his grandparents Dunham in Hawaii for many years while his mother abandoned him and his father abandoned him.

Guess who lived just down the street and was friends with the grandparents Dunham? Frank Marshall Davis. So, Davis was his father figure, if not his ACTUAL father, and HELPED raise him.

Guess who Frank Marsahll Davis was married to? A white woman named Helen Canfield Peck. Who was Canfield? She was a wealthy socialite.

Guess where Canfield was from? Connecticut. Canfield has several highly placed government officials in her family lineage, including governors, etc.

Who would have the power, and access, to do something like obtain a fake SSN? Helen Canfield.

Helen Canfield and Frank Marshall Davis were both card-carrying members of the Communist party. So were the grandparents Dunham - BOTH of them.

Guess where Davis and the elder Dunhams are from? Kansas.
Guess where Davis and the elder Dunhams went next? Chicago.
Guess where they were assigned by the CP after doing various Communist activities in Chicago? Hawaii.

Starting to get the picture here, everyone?
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since folks are derailing teh thread. i thought i would refresh with the meat of it again in quotes above for those who missed it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1334656


bump
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You just *have* to turn this into racist shit don't you.

Shill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1311546


Not my fault the shoe fits......where was all the "outrage" when Arnold Schwarzenterminator wanted to run.....many of the SAME (white) folks who are drooling over these Obama BC "stories" are the SAME ones who were SERIOUSLY talking about amending the conststution just for Ahnuld.... LOL
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1175548


The difference is between someone who would have been an honest and valid president, and the fact that we have a criminal in office. If Obama had been honest, people might have been just as earnest about amending the constitution for him. However, you might note that it wasn't amended, and Obama is a criminal.

But I guess because he's black (or tries to say he is) that means he doesn't play by the same rules as the rest of us? Black people can break the law, but the people holding them accountable are racists?

Why is this so hard? You can turn anything into being about race, because you're obviously racists, but the truth is no one gives a wet noodle what color you are. However, how you ACT matters. No one likes a racist, so stop trying to make this about the freaking color of your skin.

Obama isn't even black!! He's mostly Arab! Or would you like to try and play the Arab card now?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 994063



Oh I know....every other white president has been soooooo honest and upstanding...

I mean Bush Jr didn't LIE anout WMD sending thousands of Americans to die and killink hundreds of thousands of foreign civilians....noooooo

Bush SENIOR before him never lied about Iran-Contra Noooooo.....he was a SAINT.....

LOL you racists are so transparent.....and you are so DUMB to think that no one sees RIGHT THROUGH YOU..

I'd have more respect for you just admitting that you hate him because he's Black than coming up with LAME excuses like "he lied" LOL

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Can you not read or just not understand?

The fact that other presidents lied IS THE WHOLE POINT!! They ALL lie and they're all called out on it. But when Obama is called out, it's okay. Because he looks black (which is another lie).

Admit it, you care about color. No one else does. Guess what that makes you? A racist.
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you people are fucking crazy
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No. For legal reasons what we are doing is "role playing" and not stating anything for any other purpose than entertainment.

I just thought the whole issue was about Obama having a foreign father hence hide the birth certificate.

But if he can have a foreign dad and still be natural than it doesn't matter.
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Six other U.S. presidents had a foreign-born parent.

Andrew Jackson (1829-1837) is the only president born of two immigrants, both Irish. Presidents with one immigrant parent are Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809), whose mother was born in England, James Buchanan (1857-1861) and Chester Arthur (1881-1885), both of whom had Irish fathers, and Woodrow Wilson (1913-1921) and Herbert Hoover (1929-1933), whose mothers were born respectively in England and Canada.

At least Chester Arthur's father was a subject of the United Kingdom at the time of his birth (1829) – he naturalized in 1843.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

BTW, Trump's mother was born in Germany as well.
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All those presidents had parents who were citizens of the U.S. at the time of their birth except one. Donald Trump's mother was a citizen at the time of his birth. Unlike Hussein 0bama, Sr.

I can't believe you don't know all that.
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It takes a single one legal precedent.

[i [link to en.wikipedia.org]

...At the time of the birth of the future president, Arthur's father was an Irish subject of the United Kingdom of Scottish descent, who naturalized as a U.S. citizen in 1843.

[link to law.marquette.edu]

...The controversy over Arthur’s citizenship status centers around the place of Arthur’s actual birth. By one account he was born in his family’s home in Franklin County, Vermont. If this was true, then he was clearly a natural born citizen...
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Read the definition of term “Natural Born Citizen” in the Black’s Law Dictionary (cited as a secondary legal authority in many SCOTUS cases) or in the Blackstone’s “Commentaries on the Laws of England” (which played the leading role in the development of the American legal system), please! US courts disregard definition of till recent largely unknown Swiss philosopher, De Vattel.

Besides, check the ruling in the US vs. Wong Kim Ark case.
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"Obama isn't even black!! He's mostly Arab! Or would you like to try and play the Arab card now?

He's "mostly Arab"???

Oh...my god....is your sister your girlfriend too? What back-jerkwater area of the country do YOU live in? LOL

I can smell the inbreeding from here! LOL Too retarded. LOL

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I'm not even going to validate your stupidity by giving you the links to try and educate you. If you don't even know this, it's pointless to even talk to you.
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facts:
1) he has not shown his birth certificate

2) millions of dollar spent by dem party to protect against the issue...

did the dem want so much a change and no more reps that they knew incertitude but were ready to take the risk and be in the white house ? of course
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310194

Myths, not facts:

1) he did

2) no, they weren't
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335881


1) Walk into a passport or DMV office and when they ask for your birth certificate, hand them a paper with a website written on it and tell them it's on the site. See how far that gets you. What he showed proves absolutely nothing.

2) 0bama has paid high-priced law firms to defend the lawsuits that are asking for his birth certificate. This has been going on for over two years now. By all accounts, for the over 50 lawsuits, it cost over $2 million. And chances are it's taxpayer money.
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Really....and the VERIFIABLE PROOF is where?

Oh, I see, that's ALSO more "stuff" that you "read" somewhere from someone ELSE who DOESNT HAVE any proof of ANY of that EITHER....

I get the game now.... LOL
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"Obama isn't even black!! He's mostly Arab! Or would you like to try and play the Arab card now?

He's "mostly Arab"???

Oh...my god....is your sister your girlfriend too? What back-jerkwater area of the country do YOU live in? LOL

I can smell the inbreeding from here! LOL Too retarded. LOL

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I'm not even going to validate your stupidity by giving you the links to try and educate you. If you don't even know this, it's pointless to even talk to you.
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No...you are not "giving you links" because you have nothing that can be proved.....because it's all racist "birther" crap anyway LOL....

anyway....you guys have fun with your "research".

LOL...but I'd pay a good penny to see your faces NEXT election day after he wins again....that will BE EVEN BETTER than I'm sure how your faces looked THE FIRST TIME he won! LOLOLOLOL!
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Geez... I'm not sure what the big deal is, if he has a birth certificate. He should just show it, case closed.
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Geez... I'm not sure what the big deal is, if he has a birth certificate. He should just show it, case closed.
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It isn't a big deal....except to the bigots who can't stand the idea of a Black president.
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The fact that other presidents lied IS THE WHOLE POINT!! They ALL lie and they're all called out on it. But when Obama is called out, it's okay. Because he looks black (which is another lie).

Admit it, you care about color. No one else does. Guess what that makes you? A racist.
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Let’s skip the race card, please.

Claiming that Obama’s lied doesn’t suffice; you have to prove that, either thru the process of impeachment or on the court. Internet rumors don’t count; just because Oily Taint said it, it doesn’t make it so.

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"Obama isn't even black!! He's mostly Arab! Or would you like to try and play the Arab card now?

He's "mostly Arab"???

Oh...my god....is your sister your girlfriend too? What back-jerkwater area of the country do YOU live in? LOL

I can smell the inbreeding from here! LOL Too retarded. LOL

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1175548


I'm not even going to validate your stupidity by giving you the links to try and educate you. If you don't even know this, it's pointless to even talk to you.
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No...you are not "giving you links" because you have nothing that can be proved.....because it's all racist "birther" crap anyway LOL....

anyway....you guys have fun with your "research".

LOL...but I'd pay a good penny to see your faces NEXT election day after he wins again....that will BE EVEN BETTER than I'm sure how your faces looked THE FIRST TIME he won! LOLOLOLOL!

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Geez... I'm not sure what the big deal is, if he has a birth certificate. He should just show it, case closed.
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Exactly.
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arent you meant to verity someones id and credentials before you elect them as your leader?
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Yeah, that was Nancy Pelosi's job. Instead of saying that he was not "Constitutionally eligible" to run, she sent copies of the document, signed by her, Obama, and Biden to 48 states which had that phrase removed. She should have to face a judge and jury too. And Biden knew from the get-go.

A really good website to go to in order to view these documents (plus a lot more) is americangrandjury.org .
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Geez... I'm not sure what the big deal is, if he has a birth certificate. He should just show it, case closed.
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It isn't a big deal....except to the bigots who can't stand the idea of a Black president.
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Right, because black presidents don't have to be born in the US, just white ones. african
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The fact that other presidents lied IS THE WHOLE POINT!! They ALL lie and they're all called out on it. But when Obama is called out, it's okay. Because he looks black (which is another lie).

Admit it, you care about color. No one else does. Guess what that makes you? A racist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 994063

Let’s skip the race card, please.

Claiming that Obama’s lied doesn’t suffice; you have to prove that, either thru the process of impeachment or on the court. Internet rumors don’t count; just because Oily Taint said it, it doesn’t make it so.

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You can't skip the "race card" because that is thw WHOLE basis for the "birther" movement.

Unfortunately, it's painful to know that people who may be very close to you are racist bigots....especialy if you really are genuinely "color blind"

However, the fact of the matter is that the only reason the vast majority of these people are hammering so hard on a non-issue about Obama's citizenship status is because it's now politically incorrect to directly oppose him based on race....so "citizenship" is the way to do it and not be villified.

Sad...and cowardly....but THAT is the TRUTH of the entire matter.
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04/10/2011 10:35 PM
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21 pages wasted on more birther crap for what?
Some fool found a SS# that is similar to Obama's but different??

rofl
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04/10/2011 10:35 PM
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Geez... I'm not sure what the big deal is, if he has a birth certificate. He should just show it, case closed.
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It isn't a big deal....except to the bigots who can't stand the idea of a Black president.
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Right, because black presidents don't have to be born in the US, just white ones. african
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I know.... I know....(patting the bigot's head tenderly).

Don't worry, little racist. You'll have your "white" house back in six years or so I pwwwomise!
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04/10/2011 10:36 PM
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The fact that other presidents lied IS THE WHOLE POINT!! They ALL lie and they're all called out on it. But when Obama is called out, it's okay. Because he looks black (which is another lie).

Admit it, you care about color. No one else does. Guess what that makes you? A racist.
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Let’s skip the race card, please.

Claiming that Obama’s lied doesn’t suffice; you have to prove that, either thru the process of impeachment or on the court. Internet rumors don’t count; just because Oily Taint said it, it doesn’t make it so.

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You can't skip the "race card" because that is thw WHOLE basis for the "birther" movement.

Unfortunately, it's painful to know that people who may be very close to you are racist bigots....especialy if you really are genuinely "color blind"

However, the fact of the matter is that the only reason the vast majority of these people are hammering so hard on a non-issue about Obama's citizenship status is because it's now politically incorrect to directly oppose him based on race....so "citizenship" is the way to do it and not be villified.

Sad...and cowardly....but THAT is the TRUTH of the entire matter.

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You're seriously sick.
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04/10/2011 10:42 PM
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Obama is a big piece of shit. Bush W was a bad as mother fucker and would have plugged the hole with Tony Hayward's lifeless corpse.

Obama gives the treasury to banks that sold morgages multiple times, let BP destroy the Gulf and now let's Japan shit in our breadbasket. If I was black i'd be fucking ashamed that the first black president was such a pussy.
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04/10/2011 10:43 PM
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The fact that other presidents lied IS THE WHOLE POINT!! They ALL lie and they're all called out on it. But when Obama is called out, it's okay. Because he looks black (which is another lie).

Admit it, you care about color. No one else does. Guess what that makes you? A racist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 994063

Let’s skip the race card, please.

Claiming that Obama’s lied doesn’t suffice; you have to prove that, either thru the process of impeachment or on the court. Internet rumors don’t count; just because Oily Taint said it, it doesn’t make it so.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335881


You can't skip the "race card" because that is thw WHOLE basis for the "birther" movement.

Unfortunately, it's painful to know that people who may be very close to you are racist bigots....especialy if you really are genuinely "color blind"

However, the fact of the matter is that the only reason the vast majority of these people are hammering so hard on a non-issue about Obama's citizenship status is because it's now politically incorrect to directly oppose him based on race....so "citizenship" is the way to do it and not be villified.

Sad...and cowardly....but THAT is the TRUTH of the entire matter.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1175548


You're seriously sick.
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Right....and Orly Taitz is the definition of robust mental health LOL
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04/10/2011 10:47 PM
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Obama is a big piece of shit. Bush W was a bad as mother fucker and would have plugged the hole with Tony Hayward's lifeless corpse.

Obama gives the treasury to banks that sold morgages multiple times, let BP destroy the Gulf and now let's Japan shit in our breadbasket. If I was black i'd be fucking ashamed that the first black president was such a pussy.
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Sure....Bush W was a "bad m-f er" alright....the kind of guy who would tell your mother that there was a hundred dollar bill behind her then stick his hand up her dress when she bent over to pick it up.

I'll bet all the soldiers who are dying from depleted uranium and who were denied benefits while he was still in office after going to fight in a fake war HE started think he's a swell guy too.....

just ask their families.
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04/10/2011 10:49 PM
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The whole point is it's history in the making. Some people are geeks and just want to know fr knowing sake. Who was Obama's real dad so we can write a history book. Can we verify it with a birth certificate please? The O's a great guy and we want to know because the stuff is interesting.

Let's get all the info on our first black president because it's important. There's going to be books and movies written about him for centuries. Let's get the correct info!
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04/10/2011 10:50 PM

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they did have social security numbers until the 1940's so how they tracing any one to 1890????
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Social security numbers began being issued in the 1930s, during FDR's administration

My father was born in 1921, before SSNs existed, but he was issued a SSN in 1939.

It didn't have to be issued at birth, the same way someone can become an American citizen at the age of 60, and then carry a valid passport. The passport will list their birth date and place of birth (let's say Germany 1949) even though they weren't born here.

The important thing to know is that SSN are not recycled!
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Yup. Everyone still alive ended up getting one.
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04/10/2011 10:51 PM

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Guess you really like that bold BLACK typeface....
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04/10/2011 10:52 PM
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Obama is a big piece of shit. Bush W was a bad as mother fucker and would have plugged the hole with Tony Hayward's lifeless corpse.

Obama gives the treasury to banks that sold morgages multiple times, let BP destroy the Gulf and now let's Japan shit in our breadbasket. If I was black i'd be fucking ashamed that the first black president was such a pussy.
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HAhaha YEP! that's what happens when blacks move in: they be fuckin shit up!

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