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BAD NEWS FOR OBAMA 1890 SS NUMBER TRACED TO DEAD MAN IN HI

 
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Black??? What a joke.. 0bama looks like 85% of all Arabs..
That becasue 'he's black' been played out...he's not a black american.. he's am arab muslim sleeper cell..
You the one who's feeble minded, some simpleton, or low IQ..
try an look passed the his somewhat grayish ashy looking skin tone..
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MAKES NO DIFFERENCE HOW BLACK WHIT E OR WOTEVER OBAMA IS
THE ONLY IMPORTANT THING IS HE IS NOT NATURAL BORN
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1334696


Even if he was born here, his claimed father was not, that made him ineligible to hold office of president of the USA.
 Quoting: ceawaves


no it doesn!t...wake up.
 Quoting: 40Head

TRUE

HE CAN DO WAHTVER THE HELL HE WANTS
UNTIL THE POPE SAYS THATS ENOUGH MY GOOD OBEDIENT ISLAMIC SON
NOW I SEND IN MY GOOD GUYS!
NOW I RESCUE THEM IN DECPETION.!
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Harry Reid would not have been in office in 1924 but David Reed was ....REED, David Aiken, a Senator from Pennsylvania; born in Pittsburgh, Pa., ... 1912, 1916, and 1924; unsuccessful candidate for election in 1910 to the Sixty-
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this is the fault of economic planning by Obama, 3 years running now...
HE IS THE POPES SON HE IS A GOOD OBEDIENT LITTLE WHORE
AND THE ISLAMICS FALSE SAVIOUR
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The OP has an anonymous proxy because he doesn't want us to know he's posting from Israel.

LAME-O
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YOUR ONLY REFUGE IN JESUS CHRIST THE SON OF GOD
AND HIS KINGDOM

STOP TRUSTING IN THE KINGDOMS OF MEN!

WHY DO YOU THINK GOD IS ALLOWING THIS!!!??

TO MAKE YOU WAKE UP AND SEE

ONLY IN JESUS CHRIST AND HIS CMOING KINGDOM IS THEIR STABILITY AND SAFETY


STOP WORSHIPPING THE KINGDOMS OF MEN!
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YOUR ONLY REFUGE IN JESUS CHRIST THE SON OF GOD
AND HIS KINGDOM

STOP TRUSTING IN THE KINGDOMS OF MEN!

WHY DO YOU THINK GOD IS ALLOWING THIS!!!??

TO MAKE YOU WAKE UP AND SEE

ONLY IN JESUS CHRIST AND HIS CMOING KINGDOM IS THEIR STABILITY AND SAFETY


STOP WORSHIPPING THE KINGDOMS OF MEN!

STOP WORSHIPPING AMERICA!!!!!
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BAD NEWS FOR OBAMA

1890 SS NUMBER TRACED TO JOHN PAUL LUDWIG

This news is breaking: This is bad news for Obama.


This is what we know so far. We get more info on Jean Paul Ludwig, who was born in 1890, had CT SSN obtained in 1976 and died in HI around 1981. There are 2 SS numbers for him and records show him dying in 2 different states: CA and HI around 1981.

The reason this is important, is because there is a similar fact pattern to Obama. Barack Obama is residing today in the White House, using CT SS number 042-68-4425, issued in CT in and around March 1977 to an elderly individual named John Paul Ludwig, who was born in 1890, who is presumed dead and whose death was either never reported to the SS administration or reported and deleted from the database by someone.

Obama's maternal grandmother Madelyn Dunham, worked as a part-timer or volunteer in the Probate Office in the Honolulu Hawaii Courthouse. Thus she would have access to the estate files of anyone who died there. Thus if the elderly man originally from CT died intestate in Hawaii with no known relatives, Grandma Dunham would have known this person is a prime candidate to steal the SSN of since there would be no known surviving family worrying about the death benefit from SSN and that the benefit was not likely applied for and thus SSA did not know he died. Thus the SSN remained active for the deceased person and Obama could "adopt" it as his own. This is a clear case of identity theft at the federal level.

This is what we know about Ludwig:

In 1924, Jean Paul Ludwig worked for Senator Reed of PA, in Washington DC.

On the ship manifest of ‘Leviathan’, he listed Senator Reed in Washington, DC as his empl., in answer to where he intended to live in the US.

Jean Paul Ludwig had been in the US for 3 yrs in 1924, but he was listed on the “Immigration” manifest and refered to as an alien in the column headings.

Listed under “States Immigration Officer at Port of Arrival”, New York, Aug 12, 1924:

Jean Paul Ludwig, Date of Arrival: Aug 12, 1924, Port of Departure:
Cherbourg, France, Line#: 0008

Line #8: By Whom was Passage Paid: Emp. Mr. Reed; Whether in possession of $50: Yes; Whether ever before in US: Yes; If Yes-Period of Years: 3; Where: PA

Whether going to join relative or friend: Empl. Senator Reed, Washingto, DC

Length of time alien intends to remain in the US: Always

Height 5′5″, Complexion Dk., Hair Br., Eyes Br., Marks of ID: None

Place of Birth: France, Ammersville.

[link to www.ellisisland.org]


First Name: Jean P.
Last Name: Ludwig
Ethnicity: France
Last Place of Residence: Washington, D.C.
Date of Arrival: Aug 12, 1924
Age at Arrival: 34 Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Leviathan
Port of Departure: Cherbourg, France
Manifest Line Number: 0008

U.S. Social Security Death Index
Name: Jean Ludwig
Birth Date: 17 February 1890
Zip Code of Last Residence: 96816 (Honolulu,HI)
Death Date: June 1981
Estimated Age at Death: 91
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 253087


Let me assist by adding to what you know:

Obama is very likely the biological son of Frank Marshall Davis, not Barack Obama, Sr. (no need to go into the evidence of this now for what I am about to say).

Obama was raised by his grandparents Dunham in Hawaii for many years while his mother abandoned him and his father abandoned him.

Guess who lived just down the street and was friends with the grandparents Dunham? Frank Marshall Davis. So, Davis was his father figure, if not his ACTUAL father, and HELPED raise him.

Guess who Frank Marsahll Davis was married to? A white woman named Helen Canfield Peck. Who was Canfield? She was a wealthy socialite.

Guess where Canfield was from? Connecticut. Canfield has several highly placed government officials in her family lineage, including governors, etc.

Who would have the power, and access, to do something like obtain a fake SSN? Helen Canfield.

Helen Canfield and Frank Marshall Davis were both card-carrying members of the Communist party. So were the grandparents Dunham - BOTH of them.

Guess where Davis and the elder Dunhams are from? Kansas.
Guess where Davis and the elder Dunhams went next? Chicago.
Guess where they were assigned by the CP after doing various Communist activities in Chicago? Hawaii.

Starting to get the picture here, everyone?

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Black??? What a joke.. 0bama looks like 85% of all Arabs..
That becasue 'he's black' been played out...he's not a black american.. he's am arab muslim sleeper cell..
You the one who's feeble minded, some simpleton, or low IQ..
try an look passed the his somewhat grayish ashy looking skin tone..
 Quoting: ceawaves


MAKES NO DIFFERENCE HOW BLACK WHIT E OR WOTEVER OBAMA IS
THE ONLY IMPORTANT THING IS HE IS NOT NATURAL BORN
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1334696


Even if he was born here, his claimed father was not, that made him ineligible to hold office of president of the USA.
 Quoting: ceawaves


no it doesn!t...wake up.
 Quoting: 40Head


Well it surely should have.. you need to wake up, clearly states both parent must be natural born citizens of this country.. different rules were suppose to be applied to anyone who wants to hold office of president..it's the only elected office in this country where these rules were suppose to apply...In other words you could come here and apply for citizenship be granted a citizen of the USA and hold any elected office in this country except for the office of president of the USA, (or VP) period end of story... no exception, no wavers. I don't know why more people don't understand this..

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this is the fault of economic planning by Obama, 3 years running now...
HE IS THE POPES SON HE IS A GOOD OBEDIENT LITTLE WHORE
AND THE ISLAMICS FALSE SAVIOUR
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 253087


The OP has an anonymous proxy because he doesn't want us to know he's posting from Israel.

LAME-O
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IF YOU HAD LONG LEGS THAT STEPPED FROM CONTINENT TO CONTINENET YOU COULD BE SAID TO BE BOTH IN AMERICA AND ISRAEL

I SAY GOOD LEGS THOSE BUT SO WHAT?
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Anyone can make up any story they want. Provide some evidence
of the two claims:

1) That this SSN is used by Obama.
2) That it does indeed belong to this other individual.
3) A motive. No matter Obama's status born here or somewhere
else he could apply for an SSN.

Its just more right wing FUD.
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STOP TRUSTING IN THE KINGDOMS OF MEN!
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While its more likely that he isnt native born, this isnt really any proof to help the case.

Its all interested to read, but once you get to this:

"Last edited by Apuzzo; 03-14-2011 at 05:41 PM."

It kind of throws a wrench in the whole thing.

Why was the recorded edited less than a month ago?
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Hmmm, very interesting.
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Obamas mother worked for the CIA. There is some evidence Obama worked for the CIA as well in relation to his travels to Pakistan when he was a college age student.
Fact is the records are sealed and we don't know who this guy is.
I believe Slick Wilbur Clinton's fingerprints are all over this. Slick Willie has a long memmory and is still pissed Hillary didn't get what they were promised.
So...Bill Clinton working this from behind the scenes...Obama bows out of the next race for "health reasons"...Hillary gets the nomination.
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Surely Trump will pick up on the SS# thing, its MUCH bigger than the BC issue.

Identity theft FELONY!!
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Trump has already mentioned this in his press rounds.
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It wasn't until the late 80's SS were designated upon birth. Before it was when you got your first job.. mid teens
what I wonder about is did OBama file with the selective service as he turned 18? It was the law.. even back then.
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Anyone can make up any story they want. Provide some evidence
of the two claims:

1) That this SSN is used by Obama.
2) That it does indeed belong to this other individual.
3) A motive. No matter Obama's status born here or somewhere
else he could apply for an SSN.

Its just more right wing FUD.
 Quoting: Mercurius 1087913


Yopu would believe it IF Y=THE RIGHT PERSON PRESENTED IT TO YOU WOULDNT YOU?

I AM SORRY TO INFORM YOU THE KIN OF POPLE YOU WOULD TRUST IF THEY PRESENTED THE FACTS TO YOU

ARE NOT THE KIND OF PEOPLE YOU CAN RELY ON TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH


ITS CALLED CENCERSHIP
WORD OF ADVICE
STOP TRUSTING IN MEN AND YOU MIGHT FIND SOME TRUSTWORTHY ONES
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So, the real truth is ...Obama's grandmother did a switch a roo at her place of work and literally stole an identity for Obama so he would be considered a U.S. citizen.
When in reality he is an African citizen being born in Kenya, which makes it illegal for him to be President of the United States of America.
My question is why would people go to such lengths to ensure this man not only American citizenship but ensure his climb to power?
What is his real birthdate? Anyone know?
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Because the Communist takeover of the American government has been over a hundred years in the planning.

You need to read, "The Permanent Instruction of the Alta Vendita."
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Could he be an Immortal? A Highlander maybe?
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It wasn't until the late 80's SS were designated upon birth. Before it was when you got your first job.. mid teens
what I wonder about is did OBama file with the selective service as he turned 18? It was the law.. even back then.
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NO he was never signed up..at that time.. 0bama appears to be around 18 to 21 years of age.. according to his issued ss numbers..
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I found this on another post on another site it pretty well sums up the fact Donald Trump is on the right path!

Why does the media continue to refuse to look into Barack Obama's past? And it goes way beyond his birth certificate.

Why hasn't the American media looked into the very troubling absence of any records in connection with Barack Obama?

Barack Obama was the only president of the Harvard Law Review to graduate without penning a signed article in that esteemed journal. His academic transcripts remain under lock and key, as do his academic papers no academic records for Obama have ever been released.

Student records at Mentung No. 1 public school in Jakarta, Indonesia – Not released
Hawaii elementary school records – Not released.
Punahou High School records - Not released
SAT score – Not released
Occidental College records - Not released
Columbia College records - Not released
Columbia thesis - Not released
Harvard College records - Not released
Harvard Law Review articles - None
LSAT score – not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles – None found.
State Bar records- Not released.

His records as a State Senator have been "lost".

No records from when he was a lawyer?

What is going on with the "watchdogs of our liberty" that they continue to refuse to look into these matters?

If Mr. Obama's legal name is Barry Sotero that is one thing, but why the continued suppression of every single record in connection with this mysterious man who sits in our White House?

And the press' willingness to ignore the obvious questions that surround him.

And what is worse, their ridicule of anyone who raises any of what are obvious and sensible questions.


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It wasn't until the late 80's SS were designated upon birth. Before it was when you got your first job.. mid teens
what I wonder about is did OBama file with the selective service as he turned 18? It was the law.. even back then.
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NO he was never signed up..at that time.. 0bama appears to be around 18 to 21 years of age.. according to his issued ss numbers..
 Quoting: ceawaves


THE claim is THIS
his selective service WAS FRAUDULENTLY FILLED OUT USING THE VERY SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER THAT BELONGED TO THAT 19890 DEAD MAN!!
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If Mr. Obama's legal name is Barry Sotero that is one thing, but why the continued suppression of every single record in connection with this mysterious man who sits in our White House?

I HAVE A VERY SERIOUS AND BACKED UP REASONBABLE CONNECTED THEORY FOR ALL OF THIS


IN MY OTHER THREAD

MANUFACTURING THE MAHDI - THE MAN FROM NOWHERE - OBAMA A LIFE IN DECEPTION
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So if Ludwig died in 1981 and Obama started using the number after that then as far as SS was concerned he was an old man and eligible for Social Security. Did Obama collect Social Security on that number after the guy had died? Might explain how Obama had money and did not work.


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More attempts by racist asshole to drag obamas name through the mud...


White pieces of shit, its a fucking joke to look at your kind behave in this manner....ss numbers and sending investigators into hawai. Give me a fucking break you racist pieces of shit.
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If Mr. Obama's legal name is Barry Sotero that is one thing, but why the continued suppression of every single record in connection with this mysterious man who sits in our White House?

I HAVE A VERY SERIOUS AND BACKED UP REASONBABLE CONNECTED THEORY FOR ALL OF THIS


IN MY OTHER THREAD

MANUFACTURING THE MAHDI - THE MAN FROM NOWHERE - OBAMA A LIFE IN DECEPTION
Thread: MANUFACTURING THE MAHDI - THE MAN FROM NOWHERE - OBAMA A LIFE IN DECEPTION
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Every record is sealed. If you follow his mother, she fits the profile of someone who would work for the CIA during that time period.
Barry himself did some work for the CIA.
You will never see his records, and he will finish his term.
He will not run again for president.
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More attempts by racist asshole to drag obamas name through the mud...


White pieces of shit, its a fucking joke to look at your kind behave in this manner....ss numbers and sending investigators into hawai. Give me a fucking break you racist pieces of shit.
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Not racist. Just want the records of our President to be unsealed.
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If Mr. Obama's legal name is Barry Sotero that is one thing, but why the continued suppression of every single record in connection with this mysterious man who sits in our White House?

I HAVE A VERY SERIOUS AND BACKED UP REASONBABLE CONNECTED THEORY FOR ALL OF THIS


IN MY OTHER THREAD

MANUFACTURING THE MAHDI - THE MAN FROM NOWHERE - OBAMA A LIFE IN DECEPTION
Thread: MANUFACTURING THE MAHDI - THE MAN FROM NOWHERE - OBAMA A LIFE IN DECEPTION
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 253087


Every record is sealed. If you follow his mother, she fits the profile of someone who would work for the CIA during that time period.
Barry himself did some work for the CIA.
You will never see his records, and he will finish his term.
He will not run again for president.
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YES AND WHO HAS BEEN WORKING WITH ISLAM?



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this is the fault of economic planning by Obama, 3 years running now...
HE IS THE POPES SON HE IS A GOOD OBEDIENT LITTLE WHORE
AND THE ISLAMICS FALSE SAVIOUR
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 253087


The OP has an anonymous proxy because he doesn't want us to know he's posting from Israel.

LAME-O
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1334793


IF YOU HAD LONG LEGS THAT STEPPED FROM CONTINENT TO CONTINENET YOU COULD BE SAID TO BE BOTH IN AMERICA AND ISRAEL

I SAY GOOD LEGS THOSE BUT SO WHAT?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 253087


I take it that this is your round about way of admitting you're posting from Israel.
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Unseal the secret records of The President.
Transparency and Freedom.
Then the issue is over.
Simple. But it will never happen.
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More attempts by racist asshole to drag obamas name through the mud...


White pieces of shit, its a fucking joke to look at your kind behave in this manner....ss numbers and sending investigators into hawai. Give me a fucking break you racist pieces of shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1148768

INFACT YOUR RACIST BECAUSE ALL YOU CAN SEE IS A BLACK FACE AND YOU CANT LOOK BEYOND IT TO THE MAN


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