BAD NEWS FOR OBAMA 1890 SS NUMBER TRACED TO DEAD MAN IN HI | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1336349 United States 04/10/2011 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you people are fucking crazy Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1221221No. For legal reasons what we are doing is "role playing" and not stating anything for any other purpose than entertainment. I just thought the whole issue was about Obama having a foreign father hence hide the birth certificate. But if he can have a foreign dad and still be natural than it doesn't matter. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82523 United States 04/10/2011 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i ask how can we know the ss# mentioned in this thread actually is the one obama uses and responses are to his birth certificate - these are two different concepts - this entire 17+ page thread is based on us taking for granted that obama actually has used the ss# in question - no one can prove or show that obama has used this ss# on any official document |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1336702 United States 04/10/2011 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someone plug that number in at [link to www.ssa.gov] and see what you get. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1336606 United States 04/10/2011 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i ask how can we know the ss# mentioned in this thread actually is the one obama uses and responses are to his birth certificate - these are two different concepts - Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82523this entire 17+ page thread is based on us taking for granted that obama actually has used the ss# in question - no one can prove or show that obama has used this ss# on any official document WHy you got to go and ask logical questions like that...you're fucking up the lynching here. |
JF Priest User ID: 1069469 United States 04/10/2011 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Blacks and hippies were notorious for multiple identities. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1334760Obama's dirtbag hippie mother amd her commie parents were an excellent breeding ground for creating the commie rat bastard that occupies the White House. He's had multiple names and identities and religions. He's a chameleon. If his puppetmasters hadn't decided to place him at the top, they could have put him anywhere on the chessboard. Time to get some rope and lynch everyone involved... It Only Hurts If You Care... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1336349 United States 04/10/2011 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As to his ss#.. his records are sealed executively and we'll never know. Kinda makes you wonder. You're only half an american if you DON'T wonder. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1335881 Slovenia 04/10/2011 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you people are fucking crazy Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1221221No. For legal reasons what we are doing is "role playing" and not stating anything for any other purpose than entertainment. I just thought the whole issue was about Obama having a foreign father hence hide the birth certificate. But if he can have a foreign dad and still be natural than it doesn't matter. Six other U.S. presidents had a foreign-born parent. Andrew Jackson (1829-1837) is the only president born of two immigrants, both Irish. Presidents with one immigrant parent are Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809), whose mother was born in England, James Buchanan (1857-1861) and Chester Arthur (1881-1885), both of whom had Irish fathers, and Woodrow Wilson (1913-1921) and Herbert Hoover (1929-1933), whose mothers were born respectively in England and Canada. At least Chester Arthur's father was a subject of the United Kingdom at the time of his birth (1829) – he naturalized in 1843. [link to en.wikipedia.org] BTW, Trump's mother was born in Germany as well. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1018594 United States 04/10/2011 07:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i ask how can we know the ss# mentioned in this thread actually is the one obama uses and responses are to his birth certificate - these are two different concepts - Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82523this entire 17+ page thread is based on us taking for granted that obama actually has used the ss# in question - no one can prove or show that obama has used this ss# on any official document Did you read the link to World News Daily? How the number became know/investigated is explained there pretty extensively. The para-legal said that she looked at Obama's selective service document. |
Frater User ID: 418975 United States 04/10/2011 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WTFDDIM? Oust Obama you get another stoog face for the federal reserve and corps. Think a republican is any better? TARDS! Last Edited by Frater Deplorable on 04/10/2011 07:09 PM LVX! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1185559 United States 04/10/2011 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Six other U.S. presidents had a foreign-born parent. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335881Andrew Jackson (1829-1837) is the only president born of two immigrants, both Irish. Presidents with one immigrant parent are Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809), whose mother was born in England, James Buchanan (1857-1861) and Chester Arthur (1881-1885), both of whom had Irish fathers, and Woodrow Wilson (1913-1921) and Herbert Hoover (1929-1933), whose mothers were born respectively in England and Canada. At least Chester Arthur's father was a subject of the United Kingdom at the time of his birth (1829) – he naturalized in 1843. [link to en.wikipedia.org] BTW, Trump's mother was born in Germany as well. That's cool. Thanks for your enlightening post. But the requirement is a parent that is a US citizen. It has nothing to do with where they were born. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1185559 United States 04/10/2011 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BTW, Trump's mother was born in Germany as well. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335881Edit: Trump's mother Mary Anne MacLeod, was born in Stornoway, Scotland. Don't expact from him to pull out the NBC issue, LOL. Are you stupid? Ignorant? Or just deliberately obfuscating the issue? It does not matter where one's parents are born. It matters if they are citizens at the time of your birth. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1335881 Slovenia 04/10/2011 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At least Chester Arthur's father was a subject of the United Kingdom at the time of his birth (1829) – he naturalized in 1843. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335881[link to en.wikipedia.org] That's cool. Thanks for your enlightening post. But the requirement is a parent that is a US citizen. It has nothing to do with where they were born. Read my post again: at least Chester Arthur's father wasn't. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1185559 United States 04/10/2011 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read my post again: at least Chester Arthur's father wasn't. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335881. I don't have to reread any of your worthless drivel. It proves nothing. If his father was not a US citizen at the time of the birth of his child, then the child is NOT a natural born citizen. It is not difficult. Pointing out past ineligibility issues doesn't make it legal for Obama. If someone murders someone and gets away with it, does that mean you're free to murder? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1310276 United Kingdom 04/10/2011 07:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BAD NEWS FOR OBAMA Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2530871890 SS NUMBER TRACED TO JOHN PAUL LUDWIG This news is breaking: This is bad news for Obama. This is what we know so far. We get more info on Jean Paul Ludwig, who was born in 1890, had CT SSN obtained in 1976 and died in HI around 1981. There are 2 SS numbers for him and records show him dying in 2 different states: CA and HI around 1981. The reason this is important, is because there is a similar fact pattern to Obama. Barack Obama is residing today in the White House, using CT SS number 042-68-4425, issued in CT in and around March 1977 to an elderly individual named John Paul Ludwig, who was born in 1890, who is presumed dead and whose death was either never reported to the SS administration or reported and deleted from the database by someone. Obama's maternal grandmother Madelyn Dunham, worked as a part-timer or volunteer in the Probate Office in the Honolulu Hawaii Courthouse. Thus she would have access to the estate files of anyone who died there. Thus if the elderly man originally from CT died intestate in Hawaii with no known relatives, Grandma Dunham would have known this person is a prime candidate to steal the SSN of since there would be no known surviving family worrying about the death benefit from SSN and that the benefit was not likely applied for and thus SSA did not know he died. Thus the SSN remained active for the deceased person and Obama could "adopt" it as his own. This is a clear case of identity theft at the federal level. This is what we know about Ludwig: In 1924, Jean Paul Ludwig worked for Senator Reed of PA, in Washington DC. On the ship manifest of ‘Leviathan’, he listed Senator Reed in Washington, DC as his empl., in answer to where he intended to live in the US. Jean Paul Ludwig had been in the US for 3 yrs in 1924, but he was listed on the “Immigration” manifest and refered to as an alien in the column headings. Listed under “States Immigration Officer at Port of Arrival”, New York, Aug 12, 1924: Jean Paul Ludwig, Date of Arrival: Aug 12, 1924, Port of Departure: Cherbourg, France, Line#: 0008 Line #8: By Whom was Passage Paid: Emp. Mr. Reed; Whether in possession of $50: Yes; Whether ever before in US: Yes; If Yes-Period of Years: 3; Where: PA Whether going to join relative or friend: Empl. Senator Reed, Washingto, DC Length of time alien intends to remain in the US: Always Height 5′5″, Complexion Dk., Hair Br., Eyes Br., Marks of ID: None Place of Birth: France, Ammersville. [link to www.ellisisland.org] First Name: Jean P. Last Name: Ludwig Ethnicity: France Last Place of Residence: Washington, D.C. Date of Arrival: Aug 12, 1924 Age at Arrival: 34 Gender: M Marital Status: S Ship of Travel: Leviathan Port of Departure: Cherbourg, France Manifest Line Number: 0008 U.S. Social Security Death Index Name: Jean Ludwig Birth Date: 17 February 1890 Zip Code of Last Residence: 96816 (Honolulu,HI) Death Date: June 1981 Estimated Age at Death: 91 Last edited by Apuzzo; 03-14-2011 at 05:41 PM. FOR MORE GO HERE ANDDONT FORGET TO BUMP FOR TRUMP! Thread: WAS OBAMA REALLY BORN IN 1881? Who are you ? and who is this we you keep refering to ? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82523 United States 04/10/2011 07:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i ask how can we know the ss# mentioned in this thread actually is the one obama uses and responses are to his birth certificate - these are two different concepts - Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82523this entire 17+ page thread is based on us taking for granted that obama actually has used the ss# in question - no one can prove or show that obama has used this ss# on any official document Did you read the link to World News Daily? How the number became know/investigated is explained there pretty extensively. The para-legal said that she looked at Obama's selective service document. I guess we should take her word and believe her just like we believe all obama says - She has published the private ss# of the u.s. president and has not been charged with a crime? Not that it would not be more of a crime - but has she published copies of this document for verification? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1310276 United Kingdom 04/10/2011 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | America fuck yeah. <iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src=" [link to www.youtube.com] frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1335881 Slovenia 04/10/2011 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trump's mother Mary Anne MacLeod, was born in Stornoway, Scotland. Don't expact from him to pull out the NBC issue, LOL. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335881Are you stupid? Ignorant? Or just deliberately obfuscating the issue? It does not matter where one's parents are born. It matters if they are citizens at the time of your birth. From what I know, Trump's mother was naturalized after Donald's birth; but that's not relevant - this is: At least Chester Arthur's father was a subject of the United Kingdom at the time of his birth (1829) – he naturalized in 1843. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335881[link to en.wikipedia.org] |
Oregon Ducks User ID: 987808 United States 04/10/2011 07:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excerpt: This being the case, I asked Daniels to guide me through the data mine field and help me ascertain what we know for sure about the world's best-known Social Security number – 042-68-4425. "All I can say," says Daniels of 042-68-4425, "is that it's phony and [Obama] has been using it, with it first appearing on his Selective Service document in 1980." Daniels sent me a copy of the hand-written application of the individual who held the number immediately before Obama's, 042-68-4424. The applicant, Thomas Wood, died at age 19, which is why his information is available. Wood's Social Security number was issued sometime between March and May of 1977. Obama would turn 16 in August of that year. Wood lived on Glenview Drive in Newington, Conn., the state from which all "042s" applied. Obama lived in Hawaii. Go here for the rest of this article More links below The Mystery of Barack Obama Continues AP declared Obama “Kenyan-Born” Excerpt: This report explains the context of the oft cited debate, between Obama and Keyes in the following Fall, in which Keyes faulted Obama for not being a “natural born citizen”, and in which Obama, by his quick retort, “So what? I am running for Illinois Senator, not the presidency”, self-admitted that he was not eligible for the office. Found here BLN Barack Obama is a fraud put into place by powerful people to promote their own agenda. They are anti-American and consider themselves to be world citizens. Hillary Clinton knew this truth but chose not to disclose this fact during the primaries. What was it that Hillary would not do that made the powers that be switch to problematic Obama? I note that she is ditching political office at the first opportunity and returning to private life. Does that sound like the Hillary we all know? Here on this website are a video that you might be interested in knowing. [link to biglicknews.blogspot.com] All things are possible with God |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1336728 United States 04/10/2011 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Surely Trump will pick up on the SS# thing, its MUCH bigger than the BC issue. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1252779Identity theft FELONY!! Paranoid freaks--he's the prez of the US deal with it. Nothing he could do would be half as bad as the damage done by W. Besides, Mccain wasn't born in this country. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1335881 Slovenia 04/10/2011 07:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read my post again: at least Chester Arthur's father wasn't. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335881. I don't have to reread any of your worthless drivel. It proves nothing. If his father was not a US citizen at the time of the birth of his child, then the child is NOT a natural born citizen. It is not difficult. Pointing out past ineligibility issues doesn't make it legal for Obama. If someone murders someone and gets away with it, does that mean you're free to murder? Stop with Vattel's hogwash; he's irrelevant. Your side tried and failed innumerous times; at least Keyes got the standing. Go on birther, prove any of your inane claims on the court, or shut the fuck up. . |
Oregon Ducks User ID: 987808 United States 04/10/2011 07:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Surely Trump will pick up on the SS# thing, its MUCH bigger than the BC issue. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1252779Identity theft FELONY!! Paranoid freaks--he's the prez of the US deal with it. Nothing he could do would be half as bad as the damage done by W. Besides, Mccain wasn't born in this country. Mc Cain not the President. All things are possible with God |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1335881 Slovenia 04/10/2011 07:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | About De Vattel’s definition of the NBC, which contradicts way more relevant Blackstone’s one: Did the framers know Vattel’s work in the French? If so, there is a problem because the literal phrase “natural-born citizen” is not present in the original French which says: “Les Naturels ou indigènes font ceux qui font nés dans le pays de Parens Citoyens.” For those who don’t speak French, the word “citizen” (Citoyen) appears only ONCE in the sentence. Given that the phrase “natural born citizen” was not in the French, was it in the English translations available to the framers of the US Constitution? The answer is, “no”. The first English translation in 1760 follows: [link to www.obamaconspiracy.org] . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1335881 Slovenia 04/10/2011 08:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My question: Quoting: seeker12 1023601Why does it appear democrats have immunity while Republicans and Independents get called out for every possible infractions? Ask Republicans why don’t they impeach Obama for his alleged illegibility; they won the House majority, didn’t they? They supposedly have all the evidences, right? What are they waiting for? What is Trump waiting for? - |
anonymous possum User ID: 1336763 Australia 04/10/2011 08:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FOLKS WE FOUND WHY THEY DID THEY GIFFORDS SHOOTING. THIS!!!!!!1 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1334656So we have a manchurian candidate (Obama) with a brain surgery scar on his head. He is becoming obsolete so they arrange an assassination attempt on another potential 2012 candidate who, wait for it, needs brain surgery! Sympathy vote for this candidate and she is a woman! So TPTB still get one of their own into power. MKUltra all over it! |