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BAD NEWS FOR OBAMA 1890 SS NUMBER TRACED TO DEAD MAN IN HI

 
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Politicians won't get rid of him because they are all complicit.

The Clintons bulldozed kids.

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I was just reading a thread about this on ATS, apparently it gets deleted as soon as it's posted there, more than once, so I had to come here to even read the information.
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TRUMP has the goods !

All will be revealed soon...... TRUMP is a great strategizer..

Hehehehehe

Can you say check and mate?

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1292284

… that’s the moment when you wake up and call whaaaaambulance!

Don’t say it, do it, just do it!

I can bet anything with you that Trump won’t disclose any evidence that would make Obama illegible till summer?

Obama will run... and with Trump's help most probably win.
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There is a very good chance he won't get on the ballot in some states.

What do you think they are going to do?
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States still make their own laws don't they?
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bump
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Well i gotta say, if they dont care abiout his birth certificate, it will even be less on his social security number. The punks a fraud.
Come And Take It!
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States still make their own laws don't they?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1214511

Yes they do; for instance about form, content and official name of the birth credentials.

There is a very good chance he won't get on the ballot in some states.

What do you think they are going to do?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1214511

Obama will be on the ballot in all states, because state laws cannot contradict the US Constitution and jurisprudence, for instance ruling in the United States v. Wong Kim Ark – which defines what term NBC means.

[link to www.law.cornell.edu]

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FOLKS WE FOUND WHY THEY DID THEY GIFFORDS SHOOTING. THIS!!!!!!1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1334656


Thre may be much more truth in this than you imagine. She was connected to a judge who was killed near the same time who was ruling against Obama's policies. I can't recall details, but in TOPICS there are threads about the Giffords shooting and connections.

There seemed to be a loosely formed small group of politicians, judges, and aids who were onto Obama. How deep into the information on him they were, I don't know. But, they made somebody sweat.
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States still make their own laws don't they?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1214511

Yes they do; for instance about form, content and official name of the birth credentials.

There is a very good chance he won't get on the ballot in some states.

What do you think they are going to do?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1214511

Obama will be on the ballot in all states, because state laws cannot contradict the US Constitution and jurisprudence, for instance ruling in the United States v. Wong Kim Ark – which defines what term NBC means.

[link to www.law.cornell.edu]

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1337163


No he won't. There are states, such as Arizona and Texas, as well as others, who are requiring long form birth certificates and proof of citizenship before any candidate can qualify to be on the ballots. This happened after the reports of Obama's lack of citizenship, and Kenyan father and birth became quite obviously true.
They know he is not eligible, and they intend to stop the pony at the gate.

These actions are in accordance with the requirements as set forth in the Constitution.

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If I think Bush and Obama were the worst two Presidents of my lifetime, does that mean I hate blacks and whites?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1285229

I agree with you; but why don't you rather focus on what Obama does or fails to do as a president, not on the birthers gobbledygook?

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335881

Y? B/c the average person doesn't wanna hear that political crap anymore, WE THE PEOPLE are done, we want good solid 'he fucked us over' evidence. no more political jibber jabber nonsense, he sucks, how do we get him out? nuff said.

The Salad
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1202782

Question mark was a typo, LOL.

I think that Obama sucks as president; except different rhetoric and make-up I can’t see much difference between his and Bush’s presidency (banksters bailouts, “corporate” wars, Patriot Act farce).

But I cannot imagine that the framers (themselves mostly born British subjects) would care about the US president parent’s citizenship, but rather about his personal virtues, gifts and skills.

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Being from AZ. I can't say if Gifford's & the others were actors or real people. Can say that many of us in the know are aware they took out that powerful judge that stood against Obama to confiscate our 401K's & other retirement funds. The rest was a coverup. He was the hit. The rest was a lie. May he rest in peace & may we rise up & stand against them as he did.....
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after Obi will come a woman

and beyond her USA will come finally on its knees..

so enjoy the Kenya smart boy for the time beeing
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States still make their own laws don't they?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1214511

Yes they do; for instance about form, content and official name of the birth credentials.

There is a very good chance he won't get on the ballot in some states.

What do you think they are going to do?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1214511

Obama will be on the ballot in all states, because state laws cannot contradict the US Constitution and jurisprudence, for instance ruling in the United States v. Wong Kim Ark – which defines what term NBC means.

[link to www.law.cornell.edu]

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1337163


No he won't. There are states, such as Arizona and Texas, as well as others, who are requiring long form birth certificates and proof of citizenship before any candidate can qualify to be on the ballots. This happened after the reports of Obama's lack of citizenship, and Kenyan father and birth became quite obviously true. They know he is not eligible, and they intend to stop the pony at the gate.

These actions are in accordance with the requirements as set forth in the Constitution.
 Quoting: Texas Uncensored

Nope, the US constitution does not prescribe form, content or name of birth credentials; it’s up to states to decide up that. BTW, mine, MD’s “Certificate of Live Birth” [link to www.fdeus.com] doesn’t look much different than Obama’s one.

Term “natural born citizen” is just an archaic synonym for “citizen at birth” (Check the BLD, Blackstone’s commentaries and Wong Kim Ark case ruling, and forget Vattel)

And nope, Arizona and Texas don’t require “long form” - which isn’t even an legal term; prove me wrong.
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Being from AZ. I can't say if Gifford's & the others were actors or real people. Can say that many of us in the know are aware they took out that powerful judge that stood against Obama to confiscate our 401K's & other retirement funds. The rest was a coverup. He was the hit. The rest was a lie. May he rest in peace & may we rise up & stand against them as he did.....
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That's the one. There was more going on though than only that.
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More attempts by racist asshole to drag obamas name through the mud...


White pieces of shit, its a fucking joke to look at your kind behave in this manner....ss numbers and sending investigators into hawai. Give me a fucking break you racist pieces of shit.
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hahaha you idiot... that's exactly why obammys in office fool.

why does he hide this stuff? ya dumbass
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AC1175548- You're an idiot. Get off our blog. When all you have in defense is the race card- you've already lost. Duh! We just need to take back our country & save it. Stolen SS# is prison time- felony. All White House & Supreme Court appointments will also be tried for treason. We're not saying other Presidents were without fault. If it still exists- research Bill Clinton's first Congressional address when all those Nat'l Defense Co's. that gave a shit about bringing our family home safe addressed him. Hugs but exit stage left Dude. You're weak & puny- have no place amongst us Big Boys....
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States still make their own laws don't they?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1214511

Yes they do; for instance about form, content and official name of the birth credentials.

There is a very good chance he won't get on the ballot in some states.

What do you think they are going to do?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1214511

Obama will be on the ballot in all states, because state laws cannot contradict the US Constitution and jurisprudence, for instance ruling in the United States v. Wong Kim Ark – which defines what term NBC means.

[link to www.law.cornell.edu]

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1337163


No he won't. There are states, such as Arizona and Texas, as well as others, who are requiring long form birth certificates and proof of citizenship before any candidate can qualify to be on the ballots. This happened after the reports of Obama's lack of citizenship, and Kenyan father and birth became quite obviously true. They know he is not eligible, and they intend to stop the pony at the gate.

These actions are in accordance with the requirements as set forth in the Constitution.
 Quoting: Texas Uncensored

Nope, the US constitution does not prescribe form, content or name of birth credentials; it’s up to states to decide up that. BTW, mine, MD’s “Certificate of Live Birth” [link to www.fdeus.com] doesn’t look much different than Obama’s one.

Term “natural born citizen” is just an archaic synonym for “citizen at birth” (Check the BLD, Blackstone’s commentaries and Wong Kim Ark case ruling, and forget Vattel)

And nope, Arizona and Texas don’t require “long form” - which isn’t even an legal term; prove me wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1337163


You are wrong. The short form hospital issued Certificate of Live Birth is not an official birth certificate. It is not acceptable in the United States as a legal document.


The legal long form birth certificate is called a Long Form Birth Certificate. It has to be obtained through the state of birth, or country of birth. It includes a lot of required information that is not on the short hospital certificate of live birth.
In the United states, a long form birth certificate is required to get a social security number, a passport, medicare, and even home loans.
It is required to register for selective service.
Most colleges require long form.
To obtain a driver's license, every state requires the long form state issued Birth Certificate.

If you had any kids, you would know this. If you have applied for any of the things I've listed you would know that. If you are an American citizen, you know that.

Whether the term natural born is considered archaic or not, it is the legal term for a child born in the United States of two legal citizens of the United States.

Obama does not qualify. His father was not an american citizen. He was Kenyan, and a British subject. Obama was born in Kenya, and is still a British subject.

There is no record of Obama applying for citizenship. There are only records showing his fraud and identity theft.
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I can't believe I just read SEVEN pages looking for just ONE person to point out ONE small teensy weensy hitch to this whole theory....

Let's say it's true....how would stealing the SS number of someone born in France possibly help President Obama prove he is a natural born citizen....

iamwith
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because you moron the id of that ssn was made in conneticut duh... not in hawaii or chicago ya dork
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AC1175548- You're an idiot. Get off our blog. When all you have in defense is the race card- you've already lost. Duh! We just need to take back our country & save it. Stolen SS# is prison time- felony. All White House & Supreme Court appointments will also be tried for treason. We're not saying other Presidents were without fault. If it still exists- research Bill Clinton's first Congressional address when all those Nat'l Defense Co's. that gave a shit about bringing our family home safe addressed him. Hugs but exit stage left Dude. You're weak & puny - have no place amongst us Big Boys....
 Quoting: Concerned one 1337177

And Bush was just fine, with the 9/11 cover-up, fabricated justifications for corporate wars, the PATRIOT ACT, the banksters bailout, etc.?

Now, you basically have four options:

1. convene a big enough lynch mob to take them all out
2. prove on the court that mentioned allegations are true
3. impeach Obama
4. vote him out of the office
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Hey. Just heard Nixon actually tried to cover up a break in by some nuts. They tried to claim G gordon Liddy was in on it too. Can you believe these dumb-asses!
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well maybe obama will go the way that nixon went
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Yes they do; for instance about form, content and official name of the birth credentials.

...

Obama will be on the ballot in all states, because state laws cannot contradict the US Constitution and jurisprudence, for instance ruling in the United States v. Wong Kim Ark – which defines what term NBC means.

[link to www.law.cornell.edu]

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No he won't. There are states, such as Arizona and Texas, as well as others, who are requiring long form birth certificates and proof of citizenship before any candidate can qualify to be on the ballots. This happened after the reports of Obama's lack of citizenship, and Kenyan father and birth became quite obviously true. They know he is not eligible, and they intend to stop the pony at the gate.

These actions are in accordance with the requirements as set forth in the Constitution.
 Quoting: Texas Uncensored

Nope, the US constitution does not prescribe form, content or name of birth credentials; it’s up to states to decide up that. BTW, mine, MD’s “Certificate of Live Birth” [link to www.fdeus.com] doesn’t look much different than Obama’s one.

Term “natural born citizen” is just an archaic synonym for “citizen at birth” (Check the BLD, Blackstone’s commentaries and Wong Kim Ark case ruling, and forget Vattel)

And nope, Arizona and Texas don’t require “long form” - which isn’t even an legal term; prove me wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1337163


You are wrong. The short form hospital issued Certificate of Live Birth is not an official birth certificate. It is not acceptable in the United States as a legal document.


The legal long form birth certificate is called a Long Form Birth Certificate. It has to be obtained through the state of birth, or country of birth. It includes a lot of required information that is not on the short hospital certificate of live birth.../snip/
 Quoting: Texas Uncensored

Prove me wrong by linking & citing at least law (if not Constitutional provision) that declares the "Long Form Birth Certificate" as the only valid birth credential, please; just saying that, doesn’t make it true.

A link or at least a name of the law, please.

BTW, most of the US president were not born in hospitals; data on the hospital of birth cannot a requirement. Birthers champions are making shit up.
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Obama is a piece of garbage. Here is more proof



[link to canadafreepress.com]
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Irrelevant to my question. You've done the same thing everyone else in this thread has done. You've simply sidestepped the question.
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The answer will be coming shortly. Relax, the guy is a phony. He's finished.
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Good luck with that....

When you realize he was placed in office, not elected, you will realize things are far different than you have always thought
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yep the voting is a scam... look at dubya heh.
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I have my reservations about Obama (especially lately) but who could be a bigger idiot at the helm than Trump? Like he's going to take the necessary precautions to protect our country from this shizit going on!

I think the SSN stuff is probably a crock of shizit but even if it's true it doesn't matter at all. It doesn't matter where someone was born it matters if you can trust them to be an intelligent and moral leader who will go down fighting for their people.

Obama might not be such a leader but it's so obvious to me that Trump has his head so far stuck up his ass, we'd be better off having Paris Hilton as a leader.

Just my 2 cents.
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the pres is a puppet, his puppetmasters are the banks
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/snip/... Whether the term natural born is considered archaic or not, it is the legal term for a child born in the United States of two legal citizens of the United States.

Obama does not qualify. His father was not an american citizen. He was Kenyan, and a British subject. Obama was born in Kenya, and is still a British subject... /snip/.
 Quoting: Texas Uncensored

How much do you know about law except for what you read on various Birthers sites, that - to put it mildly – might not be overly impartial? You can repeat Vattel’s definition as many times as you wish, but it wouldn’t change the fact that the US jurisprudence disregards it.

Read the definition of term “Natural Born Citizen” in the Black’s Law Dictionary (cited as a secondary legal authority in many SCOTUS cases) or in the Blackstone’s “Commentaries on the Laws of England” (which played the leading role in the development of the American legal system), please!

“Natural Born Citizen” equals to “citizen at birth”: born on the US soil (and more, but leave that..)

Read De Vattel’s essay and find out that he was a gun-ban advocate and ardent royalist.

Read any Chester Arthur's biography and find out that his father was British subject at the time of his birth.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Chester Alan Arthur was the son of Irish-born preacher William Arthur (born in Cullybackey, Ballymena, County Antrim) and Vermont-born Malvina Stone Arthur. Malvina's grandfather, Uriah Stone, fought for the Continental Army during the American Revolution and named his son, Malvina's father, George Washington Stone. Malvina's mother was part Native American. At the time of the birth of the future president, Arthur's father was an Irish subject of the United Kingdom of Scottish descent, who naturalized as a U.S. citizen in 1843.
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Barack Obama is the































BEST_PRESIDENT_EVER !
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nope same old crap like dubya, another corporate/banking stooge... name one thing obama has done for the betterment of everyone? so much for transparency...
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Given the endless resources of one DONALD TRUMP, if he can't put this thing to rest, no-one can
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What is Trump waiting for?

He's taking you for a ride, wingnuts; and you duly deserve that.

lmao
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yeah like obama isn't? heh
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Given the endless resources of one DONALD TRUMP, if he can't put this thing to rest, no-one can
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1332862

What is Trump waiting for?

He's taking you for a ride, wingnuts; and you duly deserve that.

lmao
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yeah like obama isn't? heh
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Have you ever considered that Trump - knowingly or not – is playing for Obama’s team?

BTW, my pick would be Ron Paul, especially for his character and external policy viewpoints; Trump is his exact opposite.

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WTFDDIM?

Oust Obama you get another stoog face for the federal reserve and corps.

Think a republican is any better? TARDS!
 Quoting: Frater


NOPE!! neither party. SOME change from obama hahahaha it's the same old BS that dubya did... but a lot times more worse. Look at our economy now.

they both voted for the bailouts, and obama was a senator for 4 years before becoming pres.

So the first 2 years in office, what does obama do? keep extending multiple times workmens comp and pursuing that retarded healthcare. BTW we all should be getting the healthcare congress is getting, not that POS obama one.
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Another look at Obama's Social Security number



Excerpt: This being the case, I asked Daniels to guide me through the data mine field and help me ascertain what we know for sure about the world's best-known Social Security number – 042-68-4425.


"All I can say," says Daniels of 042-68-4425, "is that it's phony and [Obama] has been using it, with it first appearing on his Selective Service document in 1980."
Daniels sent me a copy of the hand-written application of the individual who held the number immediately before Obama's, 042-68-4424. The applicant, Thomas Wood, died at age 19, which is why his information is available.

Wood's Social Security number was issued sometime between March and May of 1977. Obama would turn 16 in August of that year. Wood lived on Glenview Drive in Newington, Conn., the state from which all "042s" applied. Obama lived in Hawaii.

Go here for the rest of this article

More links below

The Mystery of Barack Obama Continues

AP declared Obama “Kenyan-Born”
Excerpt: This report explains the context of the oft cited debate, between Obama and Keyes in the following Fall, in which Keyes faulted Obama for not being a “natural born citizen”, and in which Obama, by his quick retort, “So what? I am running for Illinois Senator, not the presidency”, self-admitted that he was not eligible for the office.


Found here






BLN Barack Obama is a fraud put into place by powerful people to promote their own agenda. They are anti-American and consider themselves to be world citizens. Hillary Clinton knew this truth but chose not to disclose this fact during the primaries.


What was it that Hillary would not do that made the powers that be switch to problematic Obama? I note that she is ditching political office at the first opportunity and returning to private life. Does that sound like the Hillary we all know?

Here on this website are a video that you might be interested in knowing.

[link to biglicknews.blogspot.com]
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money talks hahahahahahaha
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I will admit that I did not read all 19 pages of this thread. I did read the first 4 or 5.

Frankly, I don't care whether Obama is a natural born U.S. citizen or not, just doesn't matter to me one way or the other.

But I've done genealogy research for 15 years and I don't understand the OP's post being taken on face value. There are at least 8 Jean Ludwigs that were born 1890 or close to it who immigrated to the U.S. The record showing the immigration was quoted for what reason? It doesn't connect to a SS#.

The social security death index does not show a death for the quoted SS#. At least I couldn't find a record. I checked all of the Jean Ludwig's on the index and none of them have a SS# beginning with 042
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I also missed the link that shows the proof of Obama's SS#.

Was this supposed to be serious research or just an opportunity for birthers and non birthers to clash?
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[link to www.wnd.com]

But this link, links to a different person with the same social security number and (has some nasty advertising links) all I saw as documentation was an "application." I can fill out an application for anything using any data, scan it and post it. Show me an actual record, any actual record.


Here's one link. There are more throughout the thread.
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