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RAVE UPDATE: Questions Raised Whether Raided Party Needed Commission Approval
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Anonymous Coward
8/26/2005 1:17 AM
Report abusive post | RAVE UPDATE: Questions Raised Whether Raided Party Needed Commission Approval
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PROVO, Utah (AP) -- One of the justifications offered by the Utah County sheriff´s office for raiding a gathering in Spanish Fork Canyon Saturday night was that sponsors failed to get a mass-gathering permit from the County Commission.
Organizers had obtained a permit from the county Health Department, which meant complying with regulations regarding portable toilets, food and other health concerns.
But the county code also mandates a security-related permit for any "anticipated assembly of 250 or more people which continues or can reasonably be expected to continue for 12 or more consecutive hours."
The party, which sheriff´s officers said was a rave, began at 9 p.m. Saturday in the Diamond Fork area. More than two hours later, 90 law enforcement officers from various agencies, including fully armed SWAT team members, swarmed the crowd of roughly 300.
They issued 60 citations, confiscated a pile of drugs and other contraband and cleared the area -- using methods many partygoers described as brutal.
Event promoter Brandon Fullmer of Salt Lake City-based Uprock Records said the party was scheduled to conclude at 6:30 a.m. Sunday -- short of the 12-hour period requiring the security permit.
"I didn´t need a permit," Fullmer said. "What they did was wrong. And there will be justice."
An attorney for Fullmer and landowner Trudy Childs has filed requests for all related documents from the health department, county attorney and commissioners.
Sheriff Jim Tracy said authorities reasonably expected partygoers to linger to 9 a.m. and beyond.
"People are up all night partying hard and have a camping area," he said. "If you´ve been up since 9 o´clock the night before, we are assuming you´re not going to jump right up and get out of there, and will exceed the 12 hour period."
Security personnel and the sound technician from Salt Lake-based Performance Audio said they were contracted for the time period cited by Fullmer.
Jay Stone, the county Health Department´s food program manager, said that agency´s permits are being changed to require signatures "from the sheriff and the fire marshal and others, so we can be sure they´ve taken care of all they need to." |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: RAVE UPDATE: Questions Raised Whether Raided Party Needed Commission Approval | Quote |
I cant read about this anymore, I just end up frothing at the mouth in anger. it´s fucked. |
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^TrInItY^
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: RAVE UPDATE: Questions Raised Whether Raided Party Needed Commission Approval | Quote |
apparently the words ´private property´ don´t mean a fucking thing any more
I thought you were allowed to shoot unauthorized intruders / aggressors on your own property?
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lol @ UT
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: RAVE UPDATE: Questions Raised Whether Raided Party Needed Commission Approval | Quote |
you can t do a lot in UT!
and there attude is if you dont like it leave
most people leave and dont go back
the state is by far the best state to stay away from and leave....
ben there left....... |
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Daniel
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: RAVE UPDATE: Questions Raised Whether Raided Party Needed Commission Approval | Quote |
Sounds like PRE-EMPTIVE WAR to me ~ Just like
CHICKENSHIT King george and Sharon !!!
What next THOUGHT POLICE ???
{{{But the county code also mandates a security-related permit for any "anticipated assembly of 250 or more people which continues or can reasonably be expected to continue for 12 or more consecutive hours."
The party, which sheriff´s officers said was a rave, began at 9 p.m. Saturday in the Diamond Fork area.}} }
{{{Sheriff Jim Tracy said authorities reasonably expected partygoers to linger to 9 a.m. and beyond.}}}
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Old Indian Man
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: RAVE UPDATE: Questions Raised Whether Raided Party Needed Commission Approval | Quote |
A permit? A PERMIT???
What about a warrent?
It´s time to take our country back from the politicians & cops. This is bullshit Got rope?
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Old Indian Man
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: RAVE UPDATE: Questions Raised Whether Raided Party Needed Commission Approval | Quote |
Parents should be outraged. If my kid had been beaten and gassed at that party. My #10 boot would be up Sherriff Shitheads ass. No words would be necessary. People like that need to be stopped dead in their tracks.
Are we going to have to take up arms against these bastards? MAY-BE, in order to defend ourselves and our own children.
This is not Nazi Germany. |
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^TrInItY^
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: RAVE UPDATE: Questions Raised Whether Raided Party Needed Commission Approval | Quote |
Ezekiel 25
1 The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying,
2 Son of man, set thy face against the Ammonites, and prophesy against them;
3 And say unto the Ammonites, Hear the word of the Lord GOD; Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thou saidst, Aha, against my sanctuary, when it was profaned; and against the land of Israel, when it was desolate; and against the house of Judah, when they went into captivity;
12 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because that Edom hath dealt against the house of Judah by taking vengeance, and hath greatly offended, and revenged himself upon them;
17 And I will execute great vengeance upon them with furious rebukes; and they shall know that I am the LORD, when I shall lay my vengeance upon them
26:7 For thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will bring upon Tyrus Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon, a king of kings, from the north, with horses, and with chariots, and with horsemen, and companies, and much people.
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Emperor Kenton
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: RAVE UPDATE: Questions Raised Whether Raided Party Needed Commission Approval | Quote |
NWO nabs nooky worldwide
[link to freetekno.org] |
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WeTFoot
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: RAVE UPDATE: Questions Raised Whether Raided Party Needed Commission Approval | Quote |
i am against rave, therefore they can basicly do witchever they see fit.
Raver" I like dancing, i go to rave only to dance"
WeTFoot." then why i never see you dance in any other place then in a rave if dancing is your passion"
Raver" You dont understand, its the music the people all toguether:"
WeTFoot " So you like rave for the companionship and enjoy enjoying something that all enjoy at the same time"
Raver "Yes"
WeTFoot:Why wait each month end for your Rave organizer to act and why dont you go in a dancing bar?"
raver: Becaseu i am a dick, and i use drugs, speed and X, and i basicly go in there to grab horny chicks.
WeTFoot, " Dont you feel better now that you tell the truth?
I hate ravers, they should all dance while burning, hight on drugs, theyll feel the flame like someone totch them.
Nha, i hate ravers, a bunch of plastic life lovers. They live in a dream for 12 hours then they look like shit, and are gruympier, then me. And i hate grumpier people then myself.
Hey loo9k at me, i spend 100$ on a skirt that covers 1% of my body and i bought pills that cost me 20$ the pair and i buy water in there becasue i am thirsty i pay 7.50$ a 500mll water botle.
I am a DINK that dont think and I AM A RAVER!
Open the door
get on the floor
everybody walk the dinausaures
boum boum
talalalalalala boum
boum boum
talalala boum boum. |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: RAVE UPDATE: Questions Raised Whether Raided Party Needed Commission Approval | Quote |
emperor kenton: do tell all you know of this video. |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: RAVE UPDATE: Questions Raised Whether Raided Party Needed Commission Approval | Quote |
wetFoot: nice rant, seriously.
HOWEVER these storm troopers will be arriving at YOUR favorite locale very soon. They won´t give a shit about you and the will smash your skull for fun.
i don´t really dig the rave scene myself for similar reasons. but superflousness is not a good enoguh reason to brutalize innocent women and children... which is what they are.
I would protect them. When I see this brutality, Something in me goes *snap. I will kill if this happens to me and mine.
FUCK THE PO-LICE COMIN STRAIGHT FROM THE MIDDLEGROUND.
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: RAVE UPDATE: Questions Raised Whether Raided Party Needed Commission Approval | Quote |
nice quotes trinity, but ahh feels like God let us off the leash on this one.
To the inbred fucks who commit these heinous acts of crimes against humanity:
"You have offended my family, and you have offended a Shaolin temple."
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Emperor Kenton
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: RAVE UPDATE: Questions Raised Whether Raided Party Needed Commission Approval | Quote |
emperor kenton: do tell all you know of this video
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For years we´ve had a travelling tekno festival in europe "Teknival", visiting all the countries. Free minds, free people, you probably have to be an European to know about this. Compare it to Burning Man if you will, it does set the mindframe. But it has become impossible, because of the government(s). Not allowing this to take place for the last few years, for me in the Netherlands, the caravan is no longer visiting. So I thought in eastern Europe they´d still be safe! Sadly the new world mindset reaches everywhere nowadays, just look at the picture. It´s CzechTek 2005, sorry for getting all emotional. It´s my desktop right now, to remind me and maybe all of you out there...
More
[link to cyberspaceorbit.com]
ONE MORE TIME:
Sadly the new world mindset reaches everywhere nowadays |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: RAVE UPDATE: Questions Raised Whether Raided Party Needed Commission Approval | Quote |
i know of ´caravans´ and i´ve been in similar parties. this is criminal behavior exhibited by the storm troopers. nothing new, just more bold. MUCH more. to the point where...
i´ll just leave it there.
To all nazi fucks: you are on notice. strong, able hippies are lurking and waiting for you to make a mistake. better be on your game more so than these weak fucks. we are many. and when we have a mind... we boogie. |
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Jeroen Jarino
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: RAVE UPDATE: Questions Raised Whether Raided Party Needed Commission Approval | Quote |
Thanks Kent, for forwarding the story! Somehow I´ve lost track of the other thread here...
But the thing that worries me most is the similarity between the two raids! Not even a month apart and like on the other side of the globe: "On the place were 1000 policemen, water cannon, armoured tank and low-flying helicopter".
That was a quote about Chechtek 2005 and the similarity with the Utah raid is striking, although i don´t know if people have been killed there. Rumour goes that it´s not one but four people who died in the Chechian raid :(
We´ve got a police state coming up, big time! The rise of poverty, thought crime, a totalitarian elite. You all know the lingo, it´s happening here in The Netherlands all over the place. Our prime minister even spoke of the new world order at the start of tis new term!
It´s a war and it´s not about land anymore, the borders that are being patrolled these days is where the "western mindset" doesn´t rule. They want the control of your mind by any means necesarry... |
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WeTFoot
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: RAVE UPDATE: Questions Raised Whether Raided Party Needed Commission Approval | Quote |
They want the control of your mind by any means necesarry...
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look at you guys, all sad becasue of that.
You know what else gets the control of your mind?
X ta Cy + Speed = brain dead.
each rave near where i live always, i repeat, always has a couple of person going to hospital, and not very rarely, someone does an overdose and dies.
now if you claim to go to those "patys" sober, then, then i missed something somewhere.
Fuck all the ravers, when ravers means to me, i take some pill and look like a moron all night.
Now there might be other king of rave, who knows.
Children now days, pffff. |
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John the Baptist
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: RAVE UPDATE: Questions Raised Whether Raided Party Needed Commission Approval | Quote |
Isn´t Burning Man coming up soon?
I´d be on my toes if I were attending this year. |
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WeTFoot
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: RAVE UPDATE: Questions Raised Whether Raided Party Needed Commission Approval | Quote |
i dont want a neioghbourg that takes that shit, i dont want a neigbourg on coke.
wait, i dont want neighbours at all.
I talk with experience, i was once, a drug addict, big time on coke. For 3 month, then i got myself into detox.
I dont trust drugs addict cause i simply could not trust myself back then.
Making drugs all night, arriving home, thinking the next way to get money7 to get hight, then steel tv´s and bikes and shit!!!!!!
No fucking way i trust any hard drugs addicted person. No fucking way.
Learn from my fucking mistakes, as far as i am c0ncern, those place should be illegal, and i am glad that the police does everything they can to control the mind of the idiots that goes there all the time, to not return anymore.
Keep on going!
ravers |
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WeTFoot
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: RAVE UPDATE: Questions Raised Whether Raided Party Needed Commission Approval | Quote |
dont sell cigarette to minors, and dont sell chemecals that destroys your brain in raves.
double standard people pisses me off big time tabarnak! |
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WeTFoot
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: RAVE UPDATE: Questions Raised Whether Raided Party Needed Commission Approval | Quote |
and if being with the presence of your own self makes life shitty, then fuking kill yourself as oppose to try and find ways to make your life "interesting" that will ultimatly kill our neighbours and your brain.
k lisse de criss |
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WeTFoot
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: RAVE UPDATE: Questions Raised Whether Raided Party Needed Commission Approval | Quote |
did i said that i detested ravers?
if i didnt then...
i detest ravers, gimme a fucking gun and ill show you how to have fun. |
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Jeroen Jarino
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: RAVE UPDATE: Questions Raised Whether Raided Party Needed Commission Approval | Quote |
You might have a point about drug use WeTFoot. But popping a pill doesn´t make you an instant addict. If you are stupid enough to use coke for three monts, you know what you´re in for!
Did you steal things yourself when you were addicted? I don´t understand why you are so negative about everything. I´ve been using all sorts of things, now and then, for ten years and I have a happy stable life. Never stole a thing...
Ofcourse I´ve seen people taking it too far, like losing their mind. But if i look at the so called "normal" people these days, rainding these parties, they´ve absolutely lost their sanity!
Well, just following orders I guess. Now doesn´t that sound familiar? |
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WeTFoot
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: RAVE UPDATE: Questions Raised Whether Raided Party Needed Commission Approval | Quote |
I am a DINK that dont think
gimme a fucking gun, and i will show you how to have fun.
i could be a rapper,
represent gimme the mick! |
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WeTFoot
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: RAVE UPDATE: Questions Raised Whether Raided Party Needed Commission Approval | Quote |
if your young an experiment with hard drugs, and you dont know where your mom hides her wallet, and you dont work, tyrust me, making money is easier then people might think.
I was lucky, i never got caught and i stoped MYSELF when i realize that i was loosing controle. It took 3 long month. I went for 6 month after that in detox. |
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Jeroen Jarino
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: RAVE UPDATE: Questions Raised Whether Raided Party Needed Commission Approval | Quote |
"and if being with the presence of your own self makes life shitty"
Go kill yourself in a forest, maybe something beautifull will grow out of you! And don´t shoot cauz of the lead ;) |
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WeTFoot
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: RAVE UPDATE: Questions Raised Whether Raided Party Needed Commission Approval | Quote |
Well, just following orders I guess. Now doesn´t that sound familiar?
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People k lisse!!!!!!
it is not about following orders, it is about respecting your own self.
Keeping your brain filled with bad chems is not very astute if that is even a word.
I bet those same idiots that takes hard drugz are against giving RITALIN to children and stupid double standard like that.
Save our Planet, but wait a moment, let me buy some fucking botled water!
i am pissed
glad that vacation is abroad, if that is a word. |
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WeTFoot
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: RAVE UPDATE: Questions Raised Whether Raided Party Needed Commission Approval | Quote |
Go kill yourself in a forest, maybe something beautifull will grow out of you! And don´t shoot cauz of the lead ;)
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nice one
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WeTFoot
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: RAVE UPDATE: Questions Raised Whether Raided Party Needed Commission Approval | Quote |
i realize i am far out of subject.
my sorryness to all of you freedom defenders, who would like to defend the rights of brain dead assholes. Who only help the problem, by creating a gigantic demand for those idiotics substance.
Man, people are bored arent they?
Ill take some shit in the bush, and i will mark the spot with a GPS, and ill go see later if something good can come out of shit. |
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Jeroen Jarino
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: RAVE UPDATE: Questions Raised Whether Raided Party Needed Commission Approval | Quote |
WeTFoot, you´ve got my respect! It´s good to be in control of yourself!
But were going OT here. It´s more like:
"Police in heavy suits without identifying numbers refused to give identifying information, information about their command and information about first aid location.
Police used massive amounts of tear gas and desorientation grenades, in many cases they threw tear gas grenade into a car and did not let people inside for long time get out, in other cases they broke car windows by iron bars, threw grenades in and forced people to get out. All people were beaten up, including teenage girls, which cried in pain. Witnesses described attack on lone staing girl, who was pulled down by her hair and kicked on the ground by four policemen.
There were hundreds of injuries, including cuts, bruises, burnings, broken arms, shock. Many people were in shock still the next day afternoon with red faces from tear gas.
Police intentionally damaged cars, electronic equipment and other property. Attack was led with clear intention to cause injuries."
Some pictures here:
[link to zpravy.idnes.cz] |
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WeTFoot
12/8/2005 10:09 AM | | Re: RAVE UPDATE: Questions Raised Whether Raided Party Needed Commission Approval | Quote |
since when incompetance and ego is not a big part of the police people?
I am comming to beleive that people that joins police are all a bunch of insecure litle bitches that wants to have more controle so they enroll.
And the egotrip my freind, neverends.
I was a victim of police incompetance already, i made them feel so stupid, that it was worth it. i would do it again.
and they beat litle girl? WTF a litle girl ws doing in there anyway?
Its all her fault, she went were big people goes, then she deserved it, i guess.
What a bad thing to say i realize, but dam it, that is how i truly feel. |
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