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If We All Come From Adam And Eve, Why Are There Different Races?

 
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The bible is just a collection of parables. "A bunch of fairytale". Get over it.

The flood never happened. It's impossible for the entire earth to be flooded since the earth is round. Anything above sea level (The Mountains) would not be underwater.

Since it's above sea level, the water just flows back to the Ocean. (Duh).

So for the ARK to be stuck on Mount Sinah or whatever is FALSE because it would be impossible. Because again, the earth is round. "And anything above sea level will never be flooded."
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"And anything above sea level will never be flooded." -- tell that to the people in northern Japan. Tell that to the people along the Red River in North Dakota at the moment. Then why did my yard get flooded three years ago? I am nearly 4,000 feet above mean sea level. If the water comes down faster than it can drain off, there will be flooding.

You ASSUME there were mountains before the Flood occurred. The words for Mountain, mountains, hill, or hills, do not even appear in Genesis until chapter Seven... why would you seem to claim the Bible implies there were any hills or mountains before the fountains of the deep were broken up and the windows of heavens were opened up and it started raining?

Apparently you understand very little of the force of hydro-dynamics.

Even today we know more about the surface of the Moon and Mars than we do about what is a mere ten miles down beneath our feet, we really still have little knowledge of the structure of the Earth from the crust to the core, we know even less of what it might have been like even 10,000 years ago.

But that's okay, the world that is will perish by fire... a planetary fire, like the Sun going Nova would produce... and the surface of the Earth will become like the surface of Venus, for awhile.
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We weren't. Their were already people living outside the garden before Adam and Eve.

In Genesis it says that when Cain was sent out of the garden he left for the land of Nod and married a woman from there.

This tells us that there were others living before adam and eve.
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It is symbolic.

Adam = Man

Eve = Woman
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Geneticists got to a big wall after rewinding the tape of history to a certain point somewhere near Middle East. They had asigned certain groups or "families" as if they were dealing with Noah's sons. The problem is people do have an image in their minds and figure out Adam and Eve were Caucasian or Jews... whatever and from that point it comes the offspring. The fact is the potencial to bring up all sort of races is implicit within the chromosomes because phenotype is superficial thing and depends on whom you marry. Me, for example, I' m married now with a brown eyes and black hair woman whose mom had incredibly piercing blue eyes and yet my former wife was blonde and green eyes. An old girlfriend is Japanese. If you imagine me having kids with each one of them and LIVING IN DIFFERENT ISLANDS the features of all these kids would resemble each one of them plus my own features. Race is a product of geographical isolation which came later on. There were other isolations. If there are no blacks in Argentina is just because of historical reasons and the same can be sakd about Switzerland. It has nothing to do with genetics. I'm SURE nobody here imagines the original matrix with ALL characteristics of what CURRENTLY we call "race". For instance you just can't imagine Eve being black with Japanese eyes but red hair and green eyes. Modern day Egyptians may look like Omar Shariff but not like ancient golden Ramses II or his dad Seti I. Have you known about the red hair and bearded Chinese or red hair Inca mummies?
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People come here without knowing anything about genetics nor about the Bible. Genesis account does have a lot of secrets in Hebrew. Book of Jubilees says Cain married his sister Awan. Genesis account says adam had both sons and daughters. The word "knowing" (yadha) says many times the men knew tjeir women. It was in sexual terms. Hence when the account says Adam knew his wife AGAIN it was not in the sense of "glad to meet you once again, darling" but having sex. Is in that sense that Cain met his wife (sister) somewhere else and not because the was another race dwelling there like it has been said thousands of times by ignorant people. In the same way in Hebrew account several times there's a difference between create (barah) and form or model which is what is used related to Adam and Eve second account different from the male-female androgynous Adam/Eve. If the woman was taken from his "rib" (actually his "side") even in a literal sense, what was she from him but his own flesh and bone? It was endogamy or genetic INCEST or a clone...... ancient civilizations did practiced to preserve something divine or satanic within the blood, that's why the two lineages look so similar switching names of parents in one side with the offspring in the other side, bad translations included amd mispelling letters. This was to hide the mother side of the lineage...Samael screwing Eve... for thou hath done this....
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Every time there was a "knowing" in Genesis account, a baby boy was begotten.
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bad translations included amd mispelling letters. This was to hide the mother side of the lineage...
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maybe hiding the fact that human females preceded human males....

and Adam was female....

the Hebrew word: 'hey' pronounced 'he' means female....
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bad translations included amd mispelling letters. This was to hide the mother side of the lineage...
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maybe hiding the fact that human females preceded human males....

and Adam was female....

the Hebrew word: 'hey' pronounced 'he' means female....
 Quoting: Sugarelf


care to continue on this ?
i feel the life force as female energy too
so if i eventually meet a woman representing god,
i would take it as granted..
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God's matrix in kabbalah is both female and male but not in terms of flesh. The apocrypha of Thomas (if I recall well) quotes Christ talking about God being both as Father and Mother and the fact is even prophets like Jeremiah and Zephaniah say the priests lied and used false feathers (read "pens") to change the Law (meaning the Torah or first 5 books of the Bible plus something else), so we don't know what was written originally in the scrolls.
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bad translations included amd mispelling letters. This was to hide the mother side of the lineage...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1338754


maybe hiding the fact that human females preceded human males....

and Adam was female....

the Hebrew word: 'hey' pronounced 'he' means female....
 Quoting: Sugarelf


care to continue on this ?
i feel the life force as female energy too
so if i eventually meet a woman representing god,
i would take it as granted..

 Quoting: Funney 1217845


Torah....name of the first five books of the bible....is also considered a feminine word in Hebrew....

anyways -- Da Vinci also considered Adam as female....
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Please lord help me!!!!
I know I have no answers but some people try too hard to figure out how to make a fairy tale book look like a scientific text.
You are just adding make believe stories to a make believe story.
Try writing a new story instead of rewriting a story that's not even worth repeating.
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Please lord help me!!!!
I know I have no answers but some people try too hard to figure out how to make a fairy tale book look like a scientific text.
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sorry there, but Bernhard Riemann and Issac Newton viewed the Bible as a scientific text....

the precedences are quite clear....
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Please lord help me!!!!
I know I have no answers but some people try too hard to figure out how to make a fairy tale book look like a scientific text.
You are just adding make believe stories to a make believe story.
Try writing a new story instead of rewriting a story that's not even worth repeating.
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I am writing from Brazil as well but I'm not the one who wrote what is above. It seems he ignores the Bible "story" is found worldwide (probably because he also ignores stories about indian Tupi Guarani from Brazil as well), not to mention Chinese ancient scripture which has absolutely no connection with Judaism nor Christianism:
[link to fotolog.terra.com.mx]
I suggest him to read Joseph Campbell or Carl Jung about colective memory and universal so-called myths and archetypes which they somehow tried to explain.

I would like to mention the word "superstring" coined in relative modern days is also implicit in ancient book of Job writing about strings or ropes mainly in Orion and Pleiades (if we know something about astronomy and physics the very mention of these two is awesome!). The same books uses a metaphor saying in ancient Hebrew the earth moves as if by the hands of a craftman working with clay which is an obvious reference to rotation of the planet. The same book explains the earth hangs on vaccum or nothingness which is a very modern concept (in times when we have not yet discovered what is vaccumm nor found any gravitons). The fact is people in Brazil are capable to talk about soccer and their profession and henceforth when someone dares to have an opinion about the Bible or whatever else, well we could see how deep the rabbit goes. My next post will show the newspaper headlines or issues about Brazilians not capable of reading. Excepctions confirm the rule and not the other way around....
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[link to a-informacao.blogspot.com]
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What do people really know about the Bible if they smoke a joint with its pages? Usually people have an opinion of things they never researched nor read. The Bible is a book with about 2000 pages at nanoscale level and usually they never read from Genesis to Apocalypse, nor did a serious deep investigations about the interpretations of several churches and their differences.... or ancient Hebrew or Greek but come here to share an "opinion". You know nothing just heard about some things probably wrong. Like that story about the Bible saying earth was flat which was never the case. A complete misunderstanding of the story about sun and moon standing "still" for almost a day is an example. A story ALSO mentioned by Mayans, Chinese and historians and described in different visual points of view.

To confuse Catholic Church errors with what was actually written is something really different which requires deep understanding. And I am saying this not just to defend merely the Bible because amazing things have been written in Hindu Mahabaratta and others.
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not to mention Chinese ancient scripture which has absolutely no connection with Judaism nor Christianism:

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there are connections there....there always are
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Please lord help me!!!!
I know I have no answers but some people try too hard to figure out how to make a fairy tale book look like a scientific text.
You are just adding make believe stories to a make believe story.
Try writing a new story instead of rewriting a story that's not even worth repeating.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1339574


I am writing from Brazil as well but I'm not the one who wrote what is above. It seems he ignores the Bible "story" is found worldwide (probably because he also ignores stories about indian Tupi Guarani from Brazil as well), not to mention Chinese ancient scripture which has absolutely no connection with Judaism nor Christianism:
[link to fotolog.terra.com.mx]
I suggest him to read Joseph Campbell or Carl Jung about colective memory and universal so-called myths and archetypes which they somehow tried to explain.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1341810


You tell me I'm stupid and then you tell me to read psychoanalysis and religious books... give me a break.
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Please lord help me!!!!
I know I have no answers but some people try too hard to figure out how to make a fairy tale book look like a scientific text.
You are just adding make believe stories to a make believe story.
Try writing a new story instead of rewriting a story that's not even worth repeating.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1339574


I am writing from Brazil as well but I'm not the one who wrote what is above. It seems he ignores the Bible "story" is found worldwide (probably because he also ignores stories about indian Tupi Guarani from Brazil as well), not to mention Chinese ancient scripture which has absolutely no connection with Judaism nor Christianism:
[link to fotolog.terra.com.mx]
I suggest him to read Joseph Campbell or Carl Jung about colective memory and universal so-called myths and archetypes which they somehow tried to explain.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1341810


You tell me I'm stupid and then you tell me to read psychoanalysis and religious books... give me a break.
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I didn't say you were stupid, I said people like you come to discuss things without knowing anything. Joseph Campbell or Jung were not idiots nor ignorant. Even if you have atheistic mind -like Freud- you need to search before having your own conclusions. What you show here is your ignorance and prejuidice.
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not to mention Chinese ancient scripture which has absolutely no connection with Judaism nor Christianism:

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1341810


there are connections there....there always are
 Quoting: Sugarelf


If there are show them and indicate the time when they happened. These Chinese ideograms are old and even now Judaism or Christianism is almost irrelevant in their culture with other preferences. Now these inscriptions show something in detail as other "myths". When a legend is just local you can say maybe myth but not when is repeated in details in different parts. Troy was consider a "myth". If I were to think like the other guy from Brazil, city of Troy wouldn't ever been found.
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not to mention Chinese ancient scripture which has absolutely no connection with Judaism nor Christianism:

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there are connections there....there always are
 Quoting: Sugarelf


If there are show them and indicate the time when they happened.
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now what does time have to do with it ??

why would that be your number one concern ??
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Who says it's my number 1 concern?
The fact is studies in genetic don't get back history of mankind to those hypothetical fantastic dates. I think it was Rebeca Cann the name I read years ago studying the DNA from mithocondria and the dates are merely thousands of years old (not millions) and even in that case they took into consideration the oldest data required many partners for the original "Adam and Eve". The opposite was true when it was a single partner. It's also a fact what we call races depend on ISOLATION that could be geographical or others and I set examples. Now if you just came at the last minute and didn't read, well, well, it usually happens with "posters" who want to share their opinions but are not willing to read others' since the very beginning and the first page.
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Who says it's my number 1 concern?

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you listed it first.

the connections are quite clear and 'dates' and 'time' are meaningless....
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Adam & Eve... ancient space travel...

Arrival on a planet with already inhabiting humanoids...

Apples...

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Who says it's my number 1 concern?

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1345888


you listed it first.

the connections are quite clear and 'dates' and 'time' are meaningless....
 Quoting: Sugarelf


I quoted among other issues and said "not to mention" and you're ignoring other previous posts. The things I am saying meaningless to you because you want to overlook them. It's important because it means thousands of years ago, Chinese for example, did have a similar story including details about creation made of "dust" and we know literal dust do have the same inorganic elements of our bodies. It's important because the more we understand about different civilizations the more we know they remembered (colective memory written or orally transmitted or via monuments means HISTORY record whether the people accept it or not is irrelevant and deserves to be studied) a unique primal story. It's important because we can clearly see there was a main male/female story and the fact is even if you accept Darwin you're gonna end up with a male homo sapiens who had to have sex with a female equivalent in order to beget. The fact there are so many theories about why Neanderthal or Cro-Magnon are different or did have a bigger cranial capacity compared with us and the fact that not all non-Creationist scientists do agree with the explanations about fossils of humans.... all these indicate scientists are not sure about the origin of man nor races. They admit though the so-called "races" is something which is superficial and perhaps related to phenotypes but that all human beings do have the capacity to beget different features depending on whom you marry. Which is what I explained before and you didn't read.

So, people want to believe in Adam and Eve of a CERTIAN race (which I already explained is wrong) or a group of cave men since the very beginning. They can accept the burst of a sudden single cell or Big Bang but not a single couple. The logic you apply depends on what you already think and I say erase them all and you shall find the possible truth. I said even the literal interpretation of Genesis account is sometimes wrong. Do me a favor, re-read the whole thing from the very page 1 before writing whatever opinion about what I think or the topic.
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Adam & Eve... ancient space travel...

Arrival on a planet with already inhabiting humanoids...

Apples...

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 Quoting: 33degrees


Sorry, Genesis mentions no apples. This was an error via Latin because the word "malum" meaning "evil" is similar to apple in that language. Quoting apples is the first indication people don't know what they wanna discuss about.
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Adam & Eve... ancient space travel...

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Suppose there was a previous civilization which achieved a degree of technology and then a catastrophe wiped them out. Imagine the forbidden tree is a symbol of an area which was blasted by a nuclear Apocalypse and since that beginning mankind "rose up" from a bad beginning. Imagine the gods were astronauts from the very earth and not from other planet and then came down from a planet they colonized but due to the same mistakes they did on earth, they ALSO destroyed that planet and had to get back and provide information or "culture" because they were living outside the earth for many years. Could it be possible? Now, if this were true is it impposible to think these people wrote down that story which was deformed by time and eventually were transformed into "myths"? They could tell about a bullet train that allowed the "metal snake" to run with NOTHING BELOW but a "force", they could tell stories about (now useless) BOXES TO WATCH DEAD PEOPLE from which it was possible to watch films with dead actors and even listening their own voices. Those boxes were called television. Their specialists in linguistic discovered in ancient and lost Greek the word "tele" meant "distance" so they interpreted television like "watch to a certain distance" (the dead man). And so on.

Could well be one of many interpretations....
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Adam & Eve... ancient space travel...

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Suppose there was a previous civilization
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Now, that wouldn't be the very beginning, would it? And so you'll have to ask how come THAT civilization started in first place or a previous one. That's the thing with the 'smart ass' thinking about Panspermia and life coming from outside neighborhood via asteroids or comets....
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Regarding the video above saying the Anunnaki brought different races, I personally wrote 3 letters answered by Zecharia Sitchin and the fact is he was more interested in telling his story than to have a commitment with the truth. And the truth is Sitchin SELECTED the creatures he wanted in order to fit it in his package of thetruthallthetruthandnothingbutthetruthsohelpyougod.

The explanations given by him were sometimes ridiculous in that matter though intelligent in other issues. He was not a moron, he was a lier. I said to him why would Anunnaki from Nibiru would dress themselves like EARTHY ANIMALS like Stargate film with Ets wearing useless animal helmets? On earth we can use animals as symbols because these animals belong to earth but the fact is the Sumerian and gods from worldwide were not just animals BUT HYBRID HUM-ANIMAL COMBOS suggesting if they were flesh (or other kind of energy like spirits) it seems they are the matrix and the matrix although similar is not quite exactly like ours.


That's why in genetics it's almost impposible to cross the limits of different species without killing a lot of beasts or creating agressive mutations which are NOT chosen or selected by the survival of the fittest naturally but DISREGARDED or eliminating them as "casualties". If scientists do cross those bundaries like sterilization is via INTELLIGENT (purposely) manipulation.


We don't even need alien creatures because DNA on earth allows that variation within the very cell.
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Therefore I already wrote: forget the idea Adam and Eve belong to what you call "race" nowadays. Imagine a black guy with natural red hair and a Chinese woman with green eyes and curly brown hair. Whataver "features" they enhanced or not with their offpsring separated in different locations. In Africa they dwell both giants and pigmeo, these features are explained because in time the respective groups or families married among themselves, some are always jumping like basketball players and naturally become "tallers" than others, others marry among the same family and do adquire diseases like feet with less toes or many who are dwarves, microcephalic disease, etc.

Interesting the Cainite offpsring was said to have dwarves and giants in his lineage and other people with 6 fingers and toes.

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