If We All Come From Adam And Eve, Why Are There Different Races?

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I don't use hemp and few times I smoked I think is a waste of time and even damaging eyes and altering the memory. Yet, the use of such substance in the temple with other elements like specific colors and weavings was important and certainly God did them for a purpose your prejuidice and ignorance don't allow you to even suspect.
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I explained all about what was meant by Satan saying you would be like gods. I just thought it was all part of the same experience but you are right, there were two sentences that he spoke. I admitted that but what is the point really? He got her in one little speech that messed her mind all up. She let him speak to her when she knew that she was supposed to listen to God instead.

Maybe God just assumed she would listen though. Maybe she couldn't help but listen to too many voices at once. That is what drove her to do wrong, not eating the fruit. I don't believe that eating the fruit drove her insane. If you read some book that claims that, that is on you.

I dont believe that cannabis is even native to Israel. I beleive that plant is from the Americas so I don't know how they would have it there. I don't think pot is very hallucinogenic either. I think you have to be brain damaged to hallucinate off of that.

Anyway now this is turning into a thread about drugs. Why do you want to discuss drugs if you don't use them yourself?

This was used in the antropomorphous Jerusalem temple (as a matter of fact many temples like Egyptians and Hindues, etc) and the incense also linked with the brain. I guess you think it was my marvelous own intelligence who made these up, right?:

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Seriously they are almost as nuts as the skeptards.

It's taken you a lot of time and effort to admit something and if I keep chatting with you is because I understand the wrath inside you when something "new" is unraveled. Never I said weed was hallucinogenic tree. I used examples in the Bible about incense, Mamree trees, Moses' Acacia burning bush to show you the possibility we're dealing with something literal whether in the Eden Garden or the tree inside the mind. The fact is Paul talked about Eve's deception and compared this with the mind. It was she the one who offered the fruit to Adam. Was it tantra sex taught by Satan considering what I already posted that I won't repeat? I am saying these as possibilities because we ignore reality and we have favorite interpretations while churches repeat the same ones. I can discuss whatever I like and it doesn't mean I have to be into... things. The fact is many things created by God are helpful for man. When you go to the dentist you wouldn't suspect lidocaine is made of coca leaves. Coffee was considered drug in Medieval times and was banned as used by witches and wizards. What's the point of forbiden a fruit if there was nothing wrong? She took the fruit says Genesis and shared that with her husband. Read Genesis over and over and over. Now, the nudity was not in the mouth that ate or the hand but in the very parts they hid.... sexual organs..... curse, pregnancy, pain as a result of sex, Cain's being son in 1 John. If you put together all these things plus the mother, Snake and cursed... you have to be blind to deny the chain reaction of events.

It's not important what you and I think or not. It matters is the facts. You think cannabis was only known in America. This is wrong.

I guess skeptards don't read enough....

The Jews have no history of using cannabis. It is agaisnt their religion to even get drunk on wine.

No, idiot! Wine was something very important for the Jews as well. Unless you wanna say all orthodox Jews are wrong and you Mr. Wise Man know better than tem all. You gotta be these evangelists who think wine in the Bible was grape juice or whatever. I guess you didn't read Christ parables about wine either...

To confuse being drunk with drinking moderate wine is absurd. Curiously many Protestant are heavily big-eaters....

What religion are you then?

Cannabis was not to get stone. I never said that. It allows you to have connections in the brain and it seems you don't nothing about weed in experience either. The use in the temple was not for private use either. Are you stupid or what?

Are you on medication?

Don't worry about my religion or faith. Why do you wanna know about me? Am I the topic? Do you wwnat to judge something ELSE in order to have a pre-requisite to understabd the topic? Ridiculous. See what's in your own eye before thinking about my life or my thought.

Judaism maintains that people do not own their bodies - they belong to God. As a result, Jews are not permitted to harm, mutilate, destroy or take risks with their bodies, life or health with activities such as taking life-threatening drugs. However, there is no general prohibition against drugs in Judaism, as long as they don't interfere with one's ritual duties and don't cause definite harm, though most Rabbis generally prohibit drugs, in order to avoid social, legal and medical problems in their community.

Spiritual use of various alcoholic beverages, sometimes in very large quantities, is common and well known. In some Jewish communities all adult men are required to get drunk on Purim until they forget the difference between the Hebrew phrases "Cursed is Haman" and "Blessed is Mordechai", which signified reaching the spiritual world Atzilut where all opposites unite. In many Jewish communities it is customary to drink on Simchat Torah as well. Drinking in small quantities as a mind-altering practice is commonly used during the Farbrengens of the Habad Hasidim. A large body of Habad literature refers to the spiritual dangers of drinking, but a few anechdotal references refer to the spirutal power of alcohol, when used for the sake of connecting to God and achieving brotherly love among fellows Jews. (references needed). The Lubavitcher Rebbe forbade his Chassidim under the age of 40 to consume more than 4 small shots of hard liquers.

Wine plays a prominent role in many Jewish rituals, most notably the kiddush. Hasidic Jews often engage in a free ceremony called "Tisch" in which drinks such as Vodka are drunk in a group. Drinking is accompanied by singing and the study of the Torah.

Some Hasidic Rabbis, e.g. the Ribnitzer Rebbe used to drink large amounts of Vodka on some special occasions, apparently as a powerful mind-altering method. The Ribnitzer Rebbe also practiced severe sleep deprivation, extremely long meditative prayers and a number of ascetic purification rituals. During his life in the USSR he used to immerse himself every day in ice water.

The spiritual use of caffeine and nicotine as stimulants is well known in the Hasidic communities. Many stories are told about miracles and spiritual journeys performed by the Baal Shem Tov and other famous Tzaddikim with the help of their smoking pipe. Some people suggest that, judging by the nature of these stories, the tobacco was sometimes mixed with strong mind-altering drugs.

A popular Hasidic saying relates coffee to the Psalmic verse "Hope in God". The Hebrew word for "hope" ("Kave") sounds identical to the Yiddish word for coffee. Coffee is believed to have power to awaken the soul to the worship of God.

Some Kabbalists, including Isaac of Acco and Abraham Abulafia, mention a method of "philosophical meditation", which involves drinking a cup of "strong wine of Avicenna", which would induce a trance and would help the adept to ponder over difficult philosophical questions. The exact recipe of this wine remains unknown; Avicenna refers in his works to the effects of opium and datura extracts.

Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan, a prominent researcher of Jewish meditations, mentions in his books LSD and mescaline as a source of positive spiritual experience. He suggested that some medieval Kabbalists used some psychedelic drugs, though it was discouraged by the more conservative mystics. Indeed, one can find in Kabbalistic medical manuals cryptic references to the hidden powers of mandrake, harmal and other psychoactive plants, though the exact usage of these powers is hard to decipher.

According to Aryeh Kaplan, cannabis was an ingredient in the Holy anointing oil mentioned in various sacred Hebrew texts. The herb of interest is most commonly known as kaneh-bosem which is mentioned several times in the Old Testament as a bartering material, incense, and an ingredient in Holy anointing oil used by the high priest of the temple.

Occasional use of cannabis is accepted as a spiritual tool by some Breslov Hasidim, especially on Purim, as well as among some Sephardic Jews.

According to Josephus, the head-dress of the Jewish High Priests' was modeled upon the capsule of the Hyoscyamus flower, which he calls "Saccharus". This Greek word stems from the Hebrew root that means "intoxicating".
Benny Shanon, a psychology professor at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, proposed that Moses may have been high on hallucinogenic mushrooms at the time he received the Ten Commandments.

Who cares about what you think unless you back up your statements. You just ignored the previous two links about cannabis. Is it possible to reason with someone who denies everything and ignores the very text of the Bible?

No. I don't take any medicine of any kind either. Are you retarded?

Now, who else does have something to add about the main thread? I'm tired of discussing with this fellow.

Cain married his sister. (Seems wrong now, wasn't then)
Tower of Babel is how we have different races (and languages)

I will never figure out why all of you engage in these long dumb discussions. We have a world in a hurt of trouble and this is where you place your time, debating old outdated and mucked up and fucked up writings.

Genesis 4 (New International Version, ©2011)

Genesis 4
Cain and Abel
1 Adam[a] made love to his wife Eve, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain. She said, “With the help of the LORD I have brought forth[c] a man.” 2 Later she gave birth to his brother Abel. Now Abel kept flocks, and Cain worked the soil. 3 In the course of time Cain brought some of the fruits of the soil as an offering to the LORD. 4 And Abel also brought an offering—fat portions from some of the firstborn of his flock. The LORD looked with favor on Abel and his offering, 5 but on Cain and his offering he did not look with favor. So Cain was very angry, and his face was downcast.

6 Then the LORD said to Cain, “Why are you angry? Why is your face downcast? 7 If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you must rule over it.”

8 Now Cain said to his brother Abel, “Let’s go out to the field.”[d] While they were in the field, Cain attacked his brother Abel and killed him.

9 Then the LORD said to Cain, “Where is your brother Abel?”

“I don’t know,” he replied. “Am I my brother’s keeper?”

10 The LORD said, “What have you done? Listen! Your brother’s blood cries out to me from the ground. 11 Now you are under a curse and driven from the ground, which opened its mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand. 12 When you work the ground, it will no longer yield its crops for you. You will be a restless wanderer on the earth.”

13 Cain said to the LORD, “My punishment is more than I can bear. 14 Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.”

15 But the LORD said to him, “Not so[e]; anyone who kills Cain will suffer vengeance seven times over.” Then the LORD put a mark on Cain so that no one who found him would kill him. 16 So Cain went out from the LORD’s presence and lived in the land of Nod,[f] east of Eden.


So here we see that Cain was sent east of Eden, not out of Eden. Also that Cain is the son of Adam and Eve. If you want to read another book, don't call it the Bible.

Well, this text says exactly the same thing I am saying. Yadha in Hebrew -I wrote- means sexual intercourse. So this "knowing" was sex. Why did Eve need the help of the "lord" to beget Cain? Lord is the Hebrew replacement of "adonai" or "adonim" apply even to men. In the same way the "elohim" was used to replace God's name sometimes and others apply to men (Exodus 7:1, 2 says Moses was "god" in pharaoh's eyes)to false gods and even to Satan as god of the system in Greek (theos), Sammael or Satan was a "god" because the word applies to him as well. God just means powerful. This text is something like an epilogue which makes a syntetic version of the story. Abel was begotten later on but not immediately after. It doesn't matter where Cain went, if it was in Eden or out of Eden, what matters is he didn't meet someone from another race because he married his sister Awan.

Notice these events were AFTER the sin. Cain was cursed indeed.

Long discussions are excellent to sharpen the understanding among people. The world we live in is in trouble mainly because mankind chose to live independently and with no moral. After thousands of years people -maybe you- still trust science will provide the answers while the fact is we're facing doom and accelerated due to man's incompetence and selfishness. What you call outdates foresaw the kind of attitude people would have nowadays and increase in awe due to catastrophes of all kind. The data is full of detail but you probably never read it because you already have an opinion based upon what? Apocalypse even foretold there would be a punishment for those who are DAMAGING THE EARTH which is something outstanding considering only in this century we have reached the techonology to do exactly that with HAARP weapons and atomic warfare. The ancient Mahabbaratha Hindu scrolls mentioned details very similar to Hiroshima, Nagasaki holocaust whether you know it or not. So detailed that even the creator of the atomic bomb, Oppenheimer, quoted those inscriptions when he saw the explosion. And that man LEARNED to read Sanscrit to investigate deeper those "outdated" scriptures. You know nothing. If you have read the book of Job you would've known the concept of "superstrings" is older than coffee.

Could it be Satan's DNA of the seraphim (reptilian) MINGLED with Adam's DNA in EDN to insert in Eve's womb? Was rhat the little help from a "friend"?

And they're physically immortal because only descendants of Adam and Eve are culpable for Original Sin?

Actually, it says in my Bible (KJV): "Gen 1:2 - And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters."

Notice the "WAS", not "BECAME"

What matters is Hebrew scripture. I suggest to compare several translations in different languages or even in English different versions. Now, if you only know English, well, well, I sympathize....

What's that? Mormon dogma or what?

Completely agreed! The Hebrew text is what I'm really interested in :) I don't only know English, but 2 other languages as well. Unfortunately for me, neither of those are Hebrew...:(

The fact is the first human did have all possible combo to create what we know call "race". You can kick out Satan's interference if you want. Several people have written -as I did- race is just something superficial and we adquire enhancement of certain features due to isolation or different circumstances. Links were also provided. Now, to dodge useless repetition get back to page 1.

But you can search about Hebrew and investigate the possibilities, mainly in topics which require "assistance". Somewhere I said creation started in the afternoon and ended in the morning because the Hebrew words for afternoon is chaos as in entropy while morning means something ordered or "unified". That gives an extra understanding.

As I previously said Adam and Eve does have 2 stories. In one we read about the CREATION (barah) of male/female Adam and later on we read about the FORMATION or MODELING (yatsar) of Eve using Adam's side (translated as "rib" but maybe just "side" or both of them). Someone wrote something interesting about the IMAGE which was X transformed into woman's XX and RIBosome.

huh ??

now why on earth would anyone alive be responsible for the dead ??

what kind of logic is that ??

A kabbalist wrote this:


Recently, the Pope's Astronomer warned the world, there might be alien life on Mars. Does the Pope know something that we do not? In 1995 an ambassador of the Pope spoke at the ground breaking ceremony for a new powerful telescope The Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope (VATT) a cooperative effort between the University of Arizona Steward Observatory (UA) and the Vatican Observatory Research Group (VORG) located atop Mt. Graham straddling the Arizona and New Mexico border; he said when asked why the Vatican supported this project had this answer: when the aliens come down we are going to want to baptize them.

This view has been resurrected by the Vatican in recent statements about the possibilities of aliens from Mars and what it would mean to the Church. Interesting in the Vatican's recent statements is the acknowledgment of the capacity of God to create different life forms that would be free from Original Sin-sex. Would that make the aliens superior beings in the eyes of the Vatican?

In the Torah there is no Original Sin only the human being's imperfection in carrying out God's Will; that imperfection is engraved in our DNA and expressed in our freedom of choice. The earth is the crucible by which the human spirit is being forged-an opportunity to fix what we lack. It is in the fixing-in the Cabala this world is called by the name Tikun/Fixing-that there is fulfillment. Throughout many incarnations the soul and the body over these 6000 years are ready to merge in completeness; this is what is promised in the last 1000 year period beginning in a couple of hundred years.

If it were not for the influence of Mars the world would be pursuing the goal of world peace to ready ourselves for the beautiful future, but instead we are weeding out the last remnants of the previous world called Tohu/Chaos recognized in the Torah as the planet Mars. The attributions of Mars are opposite from that of the earth; whereas the earth has a molten core that rotates producing a magnetic field, the planet Mars is considered by science as being a broken planet with not enough of the needed magnetic force to hold on to an atmosphere.

The Zohar-Book of Secret describes the world of Tohu/Chaos-Mars as having at its core frozen ice surrounded by water and a nature which is opposite from the earth; on the earth when you hit the rock fire is emitted in the form of sparks, in the previous world, Mars, when you hit the rock water spurts from the rock. Just the other day a space vehicle landed on Mars and noticed ice just beneath the landing mechanism; at the moment scientist figure there must be water just beneath the surface, but from the Torah one would assume that the strike against the Martian ground was enough of an impact to elicit a bit of water to the surface which froze immediately due to the cold atmosphere.

Also, indicative of Tohu is the endless desire to accrue life in snakelike form which eventually fell to the earth when Tohu broke as depicted by the lines running through surface of Mars; the light of Tohu retracted, but the sparks from what is called in the Cabala, Shvirot HaKalim/Breaking of the Vessels, fell to the earth, buried in the soil to be called forth into life during The Six Days of Creation. Scientists have concluded that life spontaneously erupting from earth was less likely than receiving life from another planet.

The Six Days of Creation are actually the last six days of a 266,450,000 year process which produced the human being on the last of the six days-the first day of the Hebrew month Tishre celebrated as Rosh HaShana. As indicated in the first word of the Torah: Bereshith/In the Beginning whose letters can be rearranged to read: Aleph/One Tishre when the New Year is celebrated. Mars and earth are known as the two mothers who together created man-the new element in creation. It would be man's job to fix the broken vessel of Tohu/Chaos-Mars.

In the year 1666 the earth was flooded by the waters spewed out by Mars; described in the Talmud-Book of Law as a wet dream. A few hundred years later, just prior to the year 2000, the Tower of Babel was erected on Mars to prevent the heavens from flooded the world.

This is what he said. Now I say this:

Interesting is Sammael (Satan in Judaism) is the ruler of MARS..... The Freemason baptized a region in Mars as Cydonia. Ezekiel 28 was the source of this in atext dealing with a cherub cast out from among stones of fire and including the admonition to turn the FACE against Sidon/Cydonia. The Egyptian sphinx (like a cherub with humanimal hybrid combo) was "heru" falcon also meaning "face". Mars was Horus the Red One (Hor Dshr) and the sphinx (part of it) was painted red. The Great Pyramid and the sphinx are set in Cairo which comes from Al Kahira Arabic word meaning Mars the Conqueror. Maybe the greenhouse Eden with a SINGLE ACCESS guarded by the cherub was like a ziguratt with a ramp. A stargate linked to Mars Eden and Freemasons are willing to invest trillions (in spite of the crisis) to recreate the Lost other Paradise.

Wanna see Bush advertisement about sending astronauts to Mars?