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rabideausheena
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I am confused as usual about religion...I have been raised christian, as a kid I always wondered about other beings out in space and as I got older I believe in most ghost, demons, aliens, and conspircy stuff....

So, religion wise....What is your take on Aliens? Are they real? Did God create them?

Tell me all you can and I would like to hear all religion aspects to aliens.

Anunnaki, stitchen, nephilim, Enoch, outerspace, all religious takes on these things please...

I would like a good debate on the subject and really want people to talk here

And if we can help it please no fighting!!!
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Religions are man-made.
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Religions are man-made.
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watch this, op.

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These so called aliens are our people.

The Earth was struck by some thing(strike point is the Dead Sea).

The Earth moved slamming the Ozone layer.

Its amazing anything survived.

Those that were in the air stayed up there.

I think their crafts are begging to fail and that is why we are seeing more of them in the skys lately.
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churchies told me, when I attended: Aliens and dinosaurs are blasphemous because they arent in the bible, and the bible says something about everything pertaining to life is in there.

Im glad I was shown that religious types are rank-n-file sheep without any critical thinking ability.


Aliens, ufos, we have lots of evidence of. not fact, but a hell of a lot more evidence than Jesus or some vengeful god.
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Also the Ozone Layer being slammed to the surface of the Earth could not have happened more then 3000 years ago or less.

Just look around you and think for yourself and you will see what I am saying.
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These so called aliens are our people.

The Earth was struck by some thing(strike point is the Dead Sea).

The Earth moved slamming the Ozone layer.

Its amazing anything survived.

Those that were in the air stayed up there.

I think their crafts are begging to fail and that is why we are seeing more of them in the skys lately.
 Quoting: grrttsgar


stop making stuff up.
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Also the Ozone Layer being slammed to the surface of the Earth could not have happened more then 3000 years ago or less.

Just look around you and think for yourself and you will see what I am saying.
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what do you mean? provide more information.
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I don't consider this 'religious' but more Bible based and researched in depth. This includes the KJV and book of Enoch.

I don't even like to use the word alien, extra terrestrial is more like it. Basically any living creature that is not from our earth qualifies. I believe they are creation of YHVH and considered His children, messengers, angels what have you. Earth is specially set aside as it is for us humans. i believe our souls existed in age prior to this one, this is where Lucifer fell and 1/3 of God's children also. In order to salvage His children we have this age and our souls live in the flesh to stand the test of faith. Those thoughts of mine are inspired from scripture throughout the bible.

Angels did indeed leave their habitation to visit earth and impregnate women in attempts to corrupt the adamic seed line that would bring Christ. This all resulted in mutated offspring known as the giants. the fallen ones also taught man kind many forbidden things, this is spoken of in the teachings of Enoch. somewhere in all this either the angels themselves or their offspring are likely to be the origin and inspiration for false gods i.e. mythological greek and egyptian gods.

It is their forbidden teachings that have grown into the self-destructive nature that man has become today.

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Book of Enoch

[Chapter 6]

1 And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto 2 them beautiful and comely daughters. And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men 3 and beget us children.' And Semjaza, who was their leader, said unto them: 'I fear ye will not 4 indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin.' And they all answered him and said: 'Let us all swear an oath, and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations 5 not to abandon this plan but to do this thing.' Then sware they all together and bound themselves 6 by mutual imprecations upon it. And they were in all two hundred; who descended in the days of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn 7 and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. And these are the names of their leaders: Samlazaz, their leader, Araklba, Rameel, Kokablel, Tamlel, Ramlel, Danel, Ezeqeel, Baraqijal, 8 Asael, Armaros, Batarel, Ananel, Zaqiel, Samsapeel, Satarel, Turel, Jomjael, Sariel. These are their chiefs of tens.

[Chapter 7]

1 And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms 2 and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. And they 3 became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: Who consumed 4 all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against 5 them and devoured mankind. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and 6 fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood. Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones.

[Chapter 8]

1 And Azazel taught men to make swords, and knives, and shields, and breastplates, and made known to them the metals of the earth and the art of working them, and bracelets, and ornaments, and the use of antimony, and the beautifying of the eyelids, and all kinds of costly stones, and all 2 colouring tinctures. And there arose much godlessness, and they committed fornication, and they 3 were led astray, and became corrupt in all their ways. Semjaza taught enchantments, and root-cuttings, 'Armaros the resolving of enchantments, Baraqijal (taught) astrology, Kokabel the constellations, Ezeqeel the knowledge of the clouds, Araqiel the signs of the earth, Shamsiel the signs of the sun, and Sariel the course of the moon. And as men perished, they cried, and their cry went up to heaven . . .

[Chapter 9]

1 And then Michael, Uriel, Raphael, and Gabriel looked down from heaven and saw much blood being 2 shed upon the earth, and all lawlessness being wrought upon the earth. And they said one to another: 'The earth made without inhabitant cries the voice of their cryingst up to the gates of heaven. 3 And now to you, the holy ones of heaven, the souls of men make their suit, saying, "Bring our cause 4 before the Most High."' And they said to the Lord of the ages: 'Lord of lords, God of gods, King of kings, and God of the ages, the throne of Thy glory (standeth) unto all the generations of the 5 ages, and Thy name holy and glorious and blessed unto all the ages! Thou hast made all things, and power over all things hast Thou: and all things are naked and open in Thy sight, and Thou seest all 6 things, and nothing can hide itself from Thee. Thou seest what Azazel hath done, who hath taught all unrighteousness on earth and revealed the eternal secrets which were (preserved) in heaven, which 7 men were striving to learn: And Semjaza, to whom Thou hast given authority to bear rule over his associates. And they have gone to the daughters of men upon the earth, and have slept with the 9 women, and have defiled themselves, and revealed to them all kinds of sins. And the women have 10 borne giants, and the whole earth has thereby been filled with blood and unrighteousness. And now, behold, the souls of those who have died are crying and making their suit to the gates of heaven, and their lamentations have ascended: and cannot cease because of the lawless deeds which are 11 wrought on the earth. And Thou knowest all things before they come to pass, and Thou seest these things and Thou dost suffer them, and Thou dost not say to us what we are to do to them in regard to these.'
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in it's facade of giving life meaning, religeon, makes living pointless. why seek to have billions of the same thing? you are rendered into being just some role filler, you're like a file with a few properties boxes to check then you're ready for archiving. i'll stop there . i'm in no mood to attract whack jobs into my personal space.

according to some religeous beliefs we shouldn't even be here talking in this electronic form. god doesn't like towers. maybe it's simular to how the wizard didn't like little dogs? i don't think i like towers either. they deviate attention away from whatever is two inches away from your face. there could be this new important star that we are supposed to see in the sky, but we missed it because a tower was hogging up the skyline. maybe god was right.
on the other hand i like towers. it's a guilty pleasure
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There is a book I am reading now which I love Entangled by Graham Hancock. I had also watched an excellent Red Ice interview of Mr. Hancock and he talked about this book and a nonfiction book Supernatural of his. The premise for Entangled was asked for as an intention under ayahuasca. So, even though it is fiction, I love the parameters of the subject.

Basically, when the veil is thin enough, everybody sees the same thing.

I am fascinated by the Blue Angel. And indigo in general. The Vedas, etc. Indigo adults/children: Meaning when your third eye is particularly active it colors your entire aura indigo.

I believe there are certainly enough planets to support intelligent life and I believe there are many dimensions and means of intelligent communication and travel.
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both are total bollocks.
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alliens are as real as you and I...
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to tie that in with aliens.. if i were an alien and came across a planet with useful creatures on it,maybe i'd want to control and exsploit them by becoming "god" to them.


we are born dead. like some mass of shit that another living being helps break down or use for energy.
it seems that way sometimes. and when it does we get a thumbs up and a promotion.
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Aliens, humans, all life was made by the Creator. Life is vast and far reaching.

Organized religion was created by man, as all cultures made creation stories to explain their origins. But it's time to grow up and realize that creation did not only happen on this planet.
"Arrows of hate have been shot at me too, but they never hit me, because somehow they belonged to another world, with which I have no connection whatsoever." - Albert Einstein
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Tom Horn, Gary Stearman, & LA Marzulli On The Secret Alien Agenda Pt.1-8


When thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.
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Religions are man-made.
 Quoting: SoaringBear


watch this, op.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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looks very interesting and I will watch when my daughter takes a nap...

I just got back from a great family gathering and am now ready to sit down and read what you all posted and watch videos...
thanks everyone that has put their input in. I am constantly trying to get my head around all of this and along with other conspiracies...So thanks alot for all the info and help...

Please send whatever you think will be helpful and explains alot of good info to me...I have lots of friends that are coming to GLP now to check this discussion out....

A bunch of my friends on Facebook had a huge discussion last night about this subject after a UFO sighting in our super tiny small town!! And, sightings just are rare in our area. Well, not rare just this one was differant because It was heard over the police scanner by alot of people that was listening, and a cop said that he seen it to and not to make contact. And I've heard that the police got a helicopter out and dogs lol...so, all of us have been talking about this subject since the sighting....

So, this topic is hot right now!! Thanks GLP friends for all your help and I love this website!!!
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These so called aliens are our people.

The Earth was struck by some thing(strike point is the Dead Sea).

The Earth moved slamming the Ozone layer.

Its amazing anything survived.

Those that were in the air stayed up there.

I think their crafts are begging to fail and that is why we are seeing more of them in the skys lately.
 Quoting: grrttsgar


this confused me alittle??? Can you elaborate?
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was reading this thread and Thought that it was very interesting too...About dreams with UFOs Extraterestials...


Thread: Scary Weird Alien/Ufo Dream
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was reading this thread and Thought that it was very interesting too...About dreams with UFOs Extraterestials...


Thread: Scary Weird Alien/Ufo Dream
 Quoting: rabideausheena


This thread too
Alien abduction, Old Hag Syndrome, Sleep Paralysis
Thread: Alien abduction, Old Hag Syndrome, Sleep Paralysis.
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These so called aliens are our people.

The Earth was struck by some thing(strike point is the Dead Sea).

The Earth moved slamming the Ozone layer.

Its amazing anything survived.

Those that were in the air stayed up there.

I think their crafts are begging to fail and that is why we are seeing more of them in the skys lately.
 Quoting: grrttsgar


stop making stuff up.
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And what do you think your geologists have done?
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These so called aliens are our people.

The Earth was struck by some thing(strike point is the Dead Sea).

The Earth moved slamming the Ozone layer.

Its amazing anything survived.

Those that were in the air stayed up there.

I think their crafts are begging to fail and that is why we are seeing more of them in the skys lately.
 Quoting: grrttsgar


stop making stuff up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1336421

And what do you think your geologists have done?
 Quoting: grrttsgar


Im still not with you on understanding this...? I get that the earth was struck but I dont understand "those that were in the air stayed up there????" and their crafts are begging to fail...

do you have something that will explain this by chance? I am just not following what you are trying to get across
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Most aliens are not Christians...

They believe, and tremble... but being fallen angels, it's not really an option for them...
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Sorry it took me so long to get back with you I had to get some sleep. Then I went to church and had a busy day working on my 3 vehicles oil changes and break work on my van. I finally got a chance to look up some stuff for this discussion. First of all my perspective is biblical of course. Anyone who knows me already knows that’s what I am bringing to the table. Before I get into all that let me say I had a chance to talk to the Police Officer who responded to the call in Hastings the other night. He went out to investigate a reported UFO sighting. He told me that he seen nothing he interviewed others who were in the area outside during the supposed sighting and they did not see anything either.
Personally we all have to take into consideration who is saying what. The officer said “sightings” are fairly common. When people party and drink alcohol or do other substances apparently this tends to bring out the “aliens”. So what happened is someone heard the call for this “sighting” come over the scanner. Then the rumors started. Its amazing what you can find out if you just get the facts.
Ok so like I said last night I believe in the Extraterrestrial which means a living being that exists or comes from somewhere outside Earth and its atmosphere. Like I said they are called angels and demons. What I wanted to share with everyone is the fact that if you are a Christian than you cannot believe in the little green men who fly saucers. Here’s why. For starters the bible gives evidence that can explain why there are things that people see that are unexplained. For example: when I was a kid I was in Nashville. I seen a large bright light. It was low like tree top level, right above me. It bent the pine trees over and it made a loud humming sound. Then it zoomed away. What the heck did I see? I was not alone that night there were at least 4 other people there including my brothers. For the longest time I believed in aliens UFO’s and all that. Then I came to know Christ and I could not deny what I seen but I knew that it did not fit with scripture. Then I came across this passage. Ezekiel 1:4-28 and it all made sense to me. This passage in the Bible explains what a certain kind of angel looks like. They are called Seraphim’s. Look it up and read the description it will make a lot of sense. If you don’t look this up then forget everything else I am going to say. I believe that I along with the others saw an angel that night. It was so bright I could not make out any images other than a brilliant light.
A few other passages in the bible lend to this whole alien discussion. First- 2kings 2:11. This is the story where Elijah gets taken up in a chariot of fire. This is often referred to as a spaceship or flying saucer by those who in my opinion are ignorant of scripture. It is as it states an angel or some other angelic being came down on a chariot and took him away. The reference to fire again is the brilliant light it could be literal fire but either way you get the point. Hebrews 1:7 is another passage in the Bible that adds something worth noting in this discussion it says “In speaking of the angels” “he says: He (God) makes his angels winds, his servants flames of fire.” Notice the reference to wind and fire…….interesting. Sounds a lot like what I experienced. If we are thinking of lights in the sky or fast flying objects in the sky then angels could easily be mistaken for UFO’s or such a things as that. However I do not think that many of the supposed sightings around the world are angels. Some are possible, which is the point I am trying to make. I think that most of the sightings are like the one in Hastings: hoax, fakes, hallucinations, stories or plain out lies. The sightings that are real in my opinion are most likely demons.
Why would I say that? Another passage of scripture is why I believe that. I cannot deny what I saw or that fact that some people do see things that cannot be explained but I believe this passage explains it. 2 Corinthians 11:14-15. This passage states that Satan himself Masquerades as an angel of light and his demons also masquerade as servants or righteousness. In my mind I simply put it this way: Satan’s whole goal is to turn people away from God. He doesn’t care how he has to do it as long as it is done. He always focuses on our weaknesses and if that is a belief in aliens then he will run with it. He will send his demons to masquerade as lights aliens whatever. The definition of masquerade is to disguise. To me it makes sense its just another trick satan has up his sleeve to draw people away from God. He does whatever it takes. Aliens are not real but sightings that make people crazy about aliens and then think less of the one true living God maybe real. You may have seen a demon masquerading as an alien spaceship and you took the bait.
The reason why a belief in aliens draws a person away from God is this. It totally does not match up with scripture at all. Believing that there are other beings out in the universe would mean God created them. The question would be why did God create these other beings? There is absolutely no purpose for them at all. Then on top of that why would a Loving God create beings who would never have a chance to know his son Jesus thus being damned to Hell from the start? God would not create a whole race of life elsewhere just send them to Hell that does not match up with God’s characteristics. God has one son scripture repeatedly says one, one son. There is not an alien Jesus for them. They aliens do not exist because God did not create them. It is hard to understand at first why the outer space is so huge. But if you think about God and his creating power it makes sense. God has no limitations his creation is without limit. He created the universe to exercise his limitless creation ability. If you want to know what else God does in nature read Job chapters 38 and 39. God would not make aliens satan did to trick people and then people continue to run with these lies and build on them making false videos and movies and write books on this which is all non sense. If something does not match up with scripture than you should think twice about believing it, if you call yourself a Christian. The Extraterrestrial beings are real they are called angels and demons that matches scripture and explains everything else. Think about it.
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thanks mike I will look into these scriptures that you are talking about...I didn't think you would actually come to GLP lol...But nice to see you here...I have been on this site for about 5 months. And, there are lots of christians here too. Let me say that I believe in God. There has to be a God for sure...But, I think that the Gods of this world are of the same God just the story is somewhat differant. I talked a longtime friend of our family that is Native American and she believes in The Creator and protecting Mother Earth. For me, I just cant believe that her family would goto Hell because of their belief...That is one thing that bugs me...Because so many good people are going there because they dont believe in the same God. And, I maybe goin there too because of my tattoos and my husband for tattooing people as his job.....I believe that my husband has a gift from God...but then its not really...So, IDK...

Thing is I dug to deep into world religion...And, lots of ancient astronaut theories and ancient civilizations and cant get my head around it. I believe that God is real and Jesus..but there are so many unanswered questions for me...This is one of the main reasons that brought me to this website in the first place besides straight up conspiracy stuff, Nibiru, wormwood, Elenin, space, 2012, mass animal deaths, earth changes and so on... :)

The Lost Book Of Enoch is one of my questions....
The Sumarian people and the anunnaki....
Ra and Egypt...
Zecharia Sitchin's books.....
Nephilim.....
giants...
dinosours....
manna.....
sun...
the heavens....
tattoos....
stoneing.....
not being able to study astronomy....
SPACE why is it there...
the scripters that have not been put into the bible I think they call it a cannon?
Dead sea scrolls...
Im sure I can think of more questions....



I was having these horrible dreams about a demon coming into my room and it touched me twice...There are lots of theories out there...Demons, aliens, old hag, and so on...I wish God would just tell me the secrets of this world....

I also dont like that the Bible has changed alot since its writing...

I have 4-5 bibles differant dates back to the 50s and they are all differant...say differant things and words represent differant meanings in each one....

Wormwood is one that I am trying to get around too...???
is it poison or a star??? The Destroyer or not??? Is it coming? and could it at all have anything to do with Nibiru?

Mike, I am happy you are here since I know you personally..thanks for sharing you info.
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oh I changed my user name too just figured I would put that out there...
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Religions are man-made.
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And ironically Aliens have never officially been proven either.
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there seems to be alot of reports of them but I dont know thats why I am asking questions...
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I don't see a problem with aliens and christianity really. They are merely Gods creation (Or the devils if you like), it would be foolish to say that it's not possible for them to exist as that would undermine humanities purpose, but when you back and really take the universe in we already are undermined, blackholes, super stars, plasma explosions, super astroids, all are bigger and seriously in the scheme of the physical world more important then us.
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Religions are man-made.
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And ironically Aliens have never officially been proven either.
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Silly argument here, Aliens been around way longer than you.
Read up. And they are not man-made.

You can't officially prove it to humans, for at this stage, no one of us have open enough mind, to grasp invisible.
That's why we 'think' we know it all. lol.
Some of us are so down under, they will deny most obvious, pretending they doubt less.

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I don't consider this 'religious' but more Bible based and researched in depth. This includes the KJV and book of Enoch.
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Very well worded and inspired, thanks so much for taking the time to post this! I also share the same basic view but you gave me a few new caveats to consider.

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