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"The Stairway To Heaven" -Zacharia Sitchen ...NIBIRU is ReaL! | |
| Marduk Mudman User ID: 1306623  United States04/11/2011 10:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 799213  Canada04/11/2011 10:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has anyone read "The Stairway To Heaven" by Zacharia Sitchen? It's apparently the 2nd book of his Earth Chronicles. Quoting: Marduk Mudman 1306623VERY interesting book to read, and a new take on history compared to contemporary common knowledge that permeates the mainstream so heavily. Basically Sitchen traces history beyond the Egyptian civilization to the Sumerian Civilization, who he believes we're influenced by an even more ancient civilization that received direct influence from the beings of Nibiru. He attributes the 12 Zodiac Astrological signs to the Sumerian civilization who received this knowledge from the civilization that was ancient to them.. These ancient civilzations believed as fact that there was a 12th planet that had a very large orbital pattern, and that this was the lord of the celestial plane, the time of this orbit was around 3600 years.. I don't know much about Nibiru, and have only heard very little about it through this board, and random hear-say about a Planet X when I was younger.. What do you Nibiru-iens on this board have to say about this? it is real it si just NOT here right now. It was last here 2000 years ago as the star of bethlehem. It has a 3600 year orbit, do the math. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1306623 United States04/11/2011 10:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has anyone read "The Stairway To Heaven" by Zacharia Sitchen? It's apparently the 2nd book of his Earth Chronicles. Quoting: Marduk Mudman 1306623VERY interesting book to read, and a new take on history compared to contemporary common knowledge that permeates the mainstream so heavily. Basically Sitchen traces history beyond the Egyptian civilization to the Sumerian Civilization, who he believes we're influenced by an even more ancient civilization that received direct influence from the beings of Nibiru. He attributes the 12 Zodiac Astrological signs to the Sumerian civilization who received this knowledge from the civilization that was ancient to them.. These ancient civilzations believed as fact that there was a 12th planet that had a very large orbital pattern, and that this was the lord of the celestial plane, the time of this orbit was around 3600 years.. I don't know much about Nibiru, and have only heard very little about it through this board, and random hear-say about a Planet X when I was younger.. What do you Nibiru-iens on this board have to say about this? it is real it (civic)si just NOT here right now. It was last here 2000 years ago as the star of bethlehem. It has a 3600 year orbit, do the math. How do you know it was the star of bethlehem? Do you think Jesus' birth directly coincides with Nibiru's closeness if it was the star of bethlehem? I thought the star of bethlehem was a different star though? |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1306623 United States04/11/2011 10:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sitchen is a disinfo agent. Don't waste your time with that nonsense. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1338102How do you know he is a disinfo agent? I met an elderly woman who studied with him and went on some of his archaelogical excursions and she said he was a very smart man and an amazing person to study with.. I don't really see her lieing, but then again you never know. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 574254 United States04/11/2011 10:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, indeed Sitchen laid it all out for us starting in 1976 with his first book, then went on to reveal much more. So to bad these shills put his work down. He only printed what the cuneforms said. And that one was great. But what do we do now? |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1306623 United States04/11/2011 10:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Go to Sitchen is Wrong.com Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1338102This is from that site: "Readers can click here for a summary paper I wrote on the word nibiru in cuneiform texts. What follows draws from that paper and, in the case of the video, demonstrates the accuracy of my contention that there isn't a single text in the entire cuneiform record that: •Has nibiru as a planet beyond Pluto •Connects nibiru with the Anunnaki •Has nibiru cycling through our solar system every 3600 years " I don't remember Sitchen saying that there was the word nibiru written on a clay tablet, but rather he follows through the civilzations the belief system that was in place and the claims made by the leaders of those civilizations. I'm not necessarily defending Sitchen, I'm just trying to get a grasp on the whole thing. WHy would Sitchen be so inclined to lie and go to such depths to try to uphold his lie? Unless like someone said, he was a massive disinfo agent that had been planning something utterly huge with others. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1306623 United States04/11/2011 10:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, indeed Sitchen laid it all out for us starting in 1976 with his first book, then went on to reveal much more. So to bad these shills put his work down. He only printed what the cuneforms said. And that one was great. But what do we do now? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 574254That's what I'm thinking. His stuff was written 30+ years ago, so unless he was one of the main conspirators in a massive conspiracy I don't know why he would try to fabricate such an elaborate story. |
Wreck Shop  User ID: 1338368 United States04/11/2011 10:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, indeed Sitchen laid it all out for us starting in 1976 with his first book, then went on to reveal much more. So to bad these shills put his work down. He only printed what the cuneforms said. And that one was great. But what do we do now? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 574254That's what I'm thinking. His stuff was written 30+ years ago, so unless he was one of the main conspirators in a massive conspiracy I don't know why he would try to fabricate such an elaborate story. To sell more books! Allow myself to introduce....myself. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1338102 United States04/11/2011 11:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Zecharia Sitchen is involved in a massive conspiracy, along with David dIcke, Jordan Maxwell, and a shit load of other people. Their goal is to discredit Christianity so you accept the New Age religion of the NWO. And I'm not some fundamentalist Christian, this is just where the evidence has led me. |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1306623 United States04/11/2011 11:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: ac 1308052 I like what he says at 5:20, and some of his "logical" transitions and explanations from point to point seem weak or non existant to me. |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1306623 United States04/11/2011 11:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1. Freemason Quoting: The Goatman2. Jew ha gnarly Quoting: ac 1308052 I like what he says at 5:20, and some of his "logical" transitions and explanations from point to point seem weak or non existant to me. The only thing that bugs me about this video is this detailed description of the inner earth by some random narrator. You make a video showing someone is a fraud because they have no evidence for their claims, and then you do exactly the same. Dim wit. |
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| The Goatman User ID: 1292055 United States04/11/2011 11:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A Gentile scholar who reviewed Sitchen's work determined that he must have known he was outright lying about the existence of Nibiru. Last Edited by The Goatman on 04/11/2011 11:31 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1331467  Hong Kong04/11/2011 11:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has anyone read "The Stairway To Heaven" by Zacharia Sitchen? It's apparently the 2nd book of his Earth Chronicles. Quoting: Marduk Mudman 1306623VERY interesting book to read, and a new take on history compared to contemporary common knowledge that permeates the mainstream so heavily. Basically Sitchen traces history beyond the Egyptian civilization to the Sumerian Civilization, who he believes we're influenced by an even more ancient civilization that received direct influence from the beings of Nibiru. He attributes the 12 Zodiac Astrological signs to the Sumerian civilization who received this knowledge from the civilization that was ancient to them.. These ancient civilzations believed as fact that there was a 12th planet that had a very large orbital pattern, and that this was the lord of the celestial plane, the time of this orbit was around 3600 years.. I don't know much about Nibiru, and have only heard very little about it through this board, and random hear-say about a Planet X when I was younger.. What do you Nibiru-iens on this board have to say about this? it is real it si just NOT here right now. It was last here 2000 years ago as the star of bethlehem. It has a 3600 year orbit, do the math. The star of bethlehem was NOT Niburu. The planet of the crossing has a profound effect on the inhabitant of earth, and it doesn't look like a star at all. It is something that look more in line with our moon when it is at its closest point. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1331467 Hong Kong04/11/2011 11:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Go to Sitchen is Wrong.com Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1338102Niburu is in fact not used in a number of the tablets he translates from,it is usually referred to as the Planet of the Crossing as a direct translation in Babylonian. Also, each language and culture from that general region all have their own stories for the interaction with this planet, and a lot of the stories are changed and adjusted based on who was in power at the time. As an example, if you read a lot of Babylonian texts, which use the same legends and stories as the Sumerian texts, you can see how Marduk replaced names previously known as "Anu" with his own name as he came to power. This practice continues throughout Egyptian history as well. Taking a site that nitpicks down to a particular translation doesn't discount the mountains of other evidence that exists. Shills who have nothing to ague against will often take one point which includes a possible error and try and use that point to discredit an entire lifetime of work. |
| The Commentator User ID: 587619 United States04/11/2011 11:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Go to Sitchen is Wrong.com Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1338102This is from that site: "Readers can click here for a summary paper I wrote on the word nibiru in cuneiform texts. What follows draws from that paper and, in the case of the video, demonstrates the accuracy of my contention that there isn't a single text in the entire cuneiform record that: •Has nibiru as a planet beyond Pluto •Connects nibiru with the Anunnaki •Has nibiru cycling through our solar system every 3600 years " I don't remember Sitchen saying that there was the word nibiru written on a clay tablet, but rather he follows through the civilzations the belief system that was in place and the claims made by the leaders of those civilizations. I'm not necessarily defending Sitchen, I'm just trying to get a grasp on the whole thing. WHy would Sitchen be so inclined to lie and go to such depths to try to uphold his lie? Unless like someone said, he was a massive disinfo agent that had been planning something utterly huge with others. How do you know he wasn't simply wrong, not lying? Oh yes, how about you show us a highly elliptical orbit for your imaginary planet that is stable over astronomical time frames? Oh right, you can't, it doesn't exist. Thus your hero is, at best, wrong. QED. non sufficit Orbis Being a zetatard means never having to make sense. "Nancy pays me to post on Her threads" Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill NO max/bridget EVER!!!!! NO luser EVER!!! NO clunker EVER!!!!! |
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| Sumo User ID: 938315 United States04/12/2011 12:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A challenging, but fun read. I was able to get thru the first three, 12th Planet, Stairway to Heaven, and War of Gods..... The End of Days was interesting too. He's written quite a few, Cosmic Code, Return to Genesis, The Lost Realms, The Lost Book of Enki. The Joke's Over. Hunter S. Thompson |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1306623 United States04/14/2011 12:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A Gentile scholar who reviewed Sitchen's work determined that he must have known he was outright lying about the existence of Nibiru. Quoting: The GoatmanThe scholar in the video someone posted on here pretty much takes the stand point that Sitchen was making shit up. And to be honest, I didn't see that Sitchen had logical transitions from point a to point b. But upon further reading and some discussion with a lady who said she went on a few excursions with him I reconsidered some points.. This is why I started this thread though. How do you know he wasn't simply wrong, not lying? Quoting: The CommentatorOh yes, how about you show us a highly elliptical orbit for your imaginary planet that is stable over astronomical time frames? Oh right, you can't, it doesn't exist. Thus your hero is, at best, wrong. QED. My hero is not Zacharia Sitchen, thus how do you know he is "at best" wrong? Sitchen claims Din Gir means "pure ones of the blazing rockets". So the ancient Sumerians had a word for rocket, huh? What was their word for submarine, or cell phone, or car? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1338102Go to Sitchen is Wrong.com Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1338102Niburu is in fact not used in a number of the tablets he translates from,it is usually referred to as the Planet of the Crossing as a direct translation in Babylonian. Also, each language and culture from that general region all have their own stories for the interaction with this planet, and a lot of the stories are changed and adjusted based on who was in power at the time. As an example, if you read a lot of Babylonian texts, which use the same legends and stories as the Sumerian texts, you can see how Marduk replaced names previously known as "Anu" with his own name as he came to power. This practice continues throughout Egyptian history as well. Taking a site that nitpicks down to a particular translation doesn't discount the mountains of other evidence that exists. Shills who have nothing to ague against will often take one point which includes a possible error and try and use that point to discredit an entire lifetime of work. This is what I'm interested in, ancient record keeping in whatever form that mentions a planet. Is there evidence of this in ancient texts and artifacts? Or evidence that isn't completely made up and hoaky. |
