****Did Jesus Take his Body W/ Him to Heaven?**** | |
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Spawn User ID: 1056931 United States 04/13/2011 12:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After his resurrection he went to Heaven and served as the High Priest that cleansed the heavenly tabernacle with is Holy Blood. Remember he told Mary not to touch him since he had not ascended yet to the Father. He was dressed in white as the High Priests were dressed when they went into the Holy of Hollies in the Tabernacle each Passover. He then returned to Earth 8 days later and presented himself to the rest of his Apostles (remember doubting Thomas). Then on the 40th day after his resurrection he went back to Heaven to prepare it for all believers. When he was resurrected he had his immortal body, which all believers will have some day as well. That body could travel at the speed of thought, levitate, appear and disappear, walk through walls and eat! The bible says the corruptible must put on incorruptible before inheriting heaven. There is a good teaching on youtube.com I'll look for and post on this thread. Last Edited by Spawn on 04/13/2011 01:14 AM ....and whatever you do, DO NOT CLICK ON THIS LINK... no... don't do it... STOP!!!! I warned you.... [link to www.youtube.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1275445 United States 04/13/2011 12:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes. He did. And He will return the same way He left so try to look busy! Quoting: ^Watcher^So he's the only one in heaven with a material body? Enoch and Elijah are there with physical bodies. Also, angels have physical bodies. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1267056 United States 04/13/2011 12:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After his resurrection he went to Heaven and served as the High Priest that cleansed the heavenly tabernacle with is Holy Blood. Remember he told Mary not to touch his since he had not ascended yet to the Father. He was dressed in white as the High Priests were dressed when they went into the Holy of Hollies in the Tabernacle each Passover. He then returned to Earth 8 days later and presented himself to the rest of his Apostles (remember doubting Thomas). Then on the 40th day after his resurrection he went back to Heaven to prepare it for all believers. Quoting: SpawnWhen he was resurrected he had his immortal body, which all believers will have some day as well. That body could travel at the speed of thought, levitate, appear and disappear, walk through walls and eat! The bible says the corruptible must put on incorruptible before inheriting heaven. There is a good teaching on youtube.com I'll look for and post on this thread. Sort of like being from Krypton! Now I want to be a Christian. |
Spawn User ID: 1056931 United States 04/13/2011 12:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes. He did. And He will return the same way He left so try to look busy! Quoting: ^Watcher^So he's the only one in heaven with a material body? Actually Enoch and Elijah were taken to heaven without dying. It is believed they will be the two witnesses talked about in Revelations. As well there is a verse that says when Yeshua rose from the tomb the old testament saints also rose and gave testimony in Jerusalem. So the old testament saints have already been resurrected. UPDATED: Matthew 27:52-53 52And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 53And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. Last Edited by Spawn on 04/13/2011 12:55 AM ....and whatever you do, DO NOT CLICK ON THIS LINK... no... don't do it... STOP!!!! I warned you.... [link to www.youtube.com] |
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Motion & Rest (OP) User ID: 1339964 United States 04/13/2011 12:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes. He did. And He will return the same way He left so try to look busy! Quoting: ^Watcher^So he's the only one in heaven with a material body? Actually Enoch and Elijah were taken to heaven without dying. It is believed they will be the two witnesses talked about in Revelations. As well there is a verse that says when Yeshua rose from the tomb the old testament saints also rose and gave testimony in Jerusalem. So the old testament saints have already been resurrected. Maybe the heaven of the OT creator, but not from the heaven Christ is from. No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only, who is at the Father's side, has made him known. [link to bible.cc] I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. [link to bible.cc] Last Edited by Motion & Rest on 04/13/2011 12:56 AM Meow |
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Scribe to Elijah User ID: 1215551 Cyprus 04/13/2011 12:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes. He did. And He will return the same way He left so try to look busy! Quoting: ^Watcher^So he's the only one in heaven with a material body? Enoch and Elijah are there with physical bodies. Also, angels have physical bodies. There are no physical bodies in Heaven. All is spirit. When angels visit Earth, they can take on physical bodies and can partake of food. |
Spawn User ID: 1056931 United States 04/13/2011 12:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes. He did. And He will return the same way He left so try to look busy! Quoting: ^Watcher^So he's the only one in heaven with a material body? Actually Enoch and Elijah were taken to heaven without dying. It is believed they will be the two witnesses talked about in Revelations. As well there is a verse that says when Yeshua rose from the tomb the old testament saints also rose and gave testimony in Jerusalem. So the old testament saints have already been resurrected. Maybe the heaven of the OT creator, but not from the heaven Christ is from. No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only, who is at the Father's side, has made him known. [link to bible.cc] I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. [link to bible.cc] You appear to not know that Yeshua was Jewish... as well I updated my last post with the verse from Matthew in the New Testament. OP, Israel and the Jewish people are very much part of The Father's plan of Salvation. Don't reject them or you you may find yourself in the Father's wrath at some point..... Yeshua is the God of the Old Testament my friend! ....and whatever you do, DO NOT CLICK ON THIS LINK... no... don't do it... STOP!!!! I warned you.... [link to www.youtube.com] |
Spawn User ID: 1056931 United States 04/13/2011 01:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He never had a body first just like Superman he is a fictional character i know you don't want to see the truth because of fear and your bible friend would reject you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1339570I never saw Superman split time (BC vs. AD).... when a "fictional" character can do that let me know... Last Edited by Spawn on 04/13/2011 01:09 AM ....and whatever you do, DO NOT CLICK ON THIS LINK... no... don't do it... STOP!!!! I warned you.... [link to www.youtube.com] |
Scribe to Elijah User ID: 1215551 Cyprus 04/13/2011 01:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes. He did. And He will return the same way He left so try to look busy! Quoting: ^Watcher^So he's the only one in heaven with a material body? Actually Enoch and Elijah were taken to heaven without dying. It is believed they will be the two witnesses talked about in Revelations. As well there is a verse that says when Yeshua rose from the tomb the old testament saints also rose and gave testimony in Jerusalem. So the old testament saints have already been resurrected. UPDATED: Matthew 27:52-53 52And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 53And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. There are no physical bodies in Heaven whatsoever as all is Spirit there. The two witnesses are Moses and Elijah as described in Revelation 11:6 for they have power over the rain and can turn the water into blood as they did demonstrate before. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1255103 United States 04/13/2011 01:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After his resurrection he went to Heaven and served as the High Priest that cleansed the heavenly tabernacle with is Holy Blood. Remember he told Mary not to touch his since he had not ascended yet to the Father. He was dressed in white as the High Priests were dressed when they went into the Holy of Hollies in the Tabernacle each Passover. He then returned to Earth 8 days later and presented himself to the rest of his Apostles (remember doubting Thomas). Then on the 40th day after his resurrection he went back to Heaven to prepare it for all believers. Quoting: SpawnWhen he was resurrected he had his immortal body, which all believers will have some day as well. That body could travel at the speed of thought, levitate, appear and disappear, walk through walls and eat! The bible says the corruptible must put on incorruptible before inheriting heaven. There is a good teaching on youtube.com I'll look for and post on this thread. Jesus could already do all that stuff before his resurrection. Theoretically so can we. Is it the body that hosts these abilities or the faith of the soul that inhabits the body? |
Spawn User ID: 1056931 United States 04/13/2011 01:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After his resurrection he went to Heaven and served as the High Priest that cleansed the heavenly tabernacle with is Holy Blood. Remember he told Mary not to touch his since he had not ascended yet to the Father. He was dressed in white as the High Priests were dressed when they went into the Holy of Hollies in the Tabernacle each Passover. He then returned to Earth 8 days later and presented himself to the rest of his Apostles (remember doubting Thomas). Then on the 40th day after his resurrection he went back to Heaven to prepare it for all believers. Quoting: SpawnWhen he was resurrected he had his immortal body, which all believers will have some day as well. That body could travel at the speed of thought, levitate, appear and disappear, walk through walls and eat! The bible says the corruptible must put on incorruptible before inheriting heaven. There is a good teaching on youtube.com I'll look for and post on this thread. Jesus could already do all that stuff before his resurrection. Theoretically so can we. Is it the body that hosts these abilities or the faith of the soul that inhabits the body? The bible makes it very clear that our corruptible bodies must put on incorruptibility to do any of those things Christ did when he was resurrected. Yeshua was God and by his divine power could have done those things at anytime. But he came to live as a MAN and to live by FAITH for an example to us who are not divine. After his Earthly mission was successful then he was the "first-fruits" that we are to be patterned after when we are resurrected. ....and whatever you do, DO NOT CLICK ON THIS LINK... no... don't do it... STOP!!!! I warned you.... [link to www.youtube.com] |
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Spawn User ID: 1056931 United States 04/13/2011 01:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes. He did. And He will return the same way He left so try to look busy! Quoting: ^Watcher^So he's the only one in heaven with a material body? Actually Enoch and Elijah were taken to heaven without dying. It is believed they will be the two witnesses talked about in Revelations. As well there is a verse that says when Yeshua rose from the tomb the old testament saints also rose and gave testimony in Jerusalem. So the old testament saints have already been resurrected. UPDATED: Matthew 27:52-53 52And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 53And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. There are no physical bodies in Heaven whatsoever as all is Spirit there. The two witnesses are Moses and Elijah as described in Revelation 11:6 for they have power over the rain and can turn the water into blood as they did demonstrate before. . Some believe Moses is the other witness and he could be, but I don't think so. Enoch and Elijah are the only two people in the OT that never experience death and were taken to Heaven, contrary to what other people has stated previously. ....and whatever you do, DO NOT CLICK ON THIS LINK... no... don't do it... STOP!!!! I warned you.... [link to www.youtube.com] |
Spawn User ID: 1056931 United States 04/13/2011 01:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here the first clip of the 7 part series on Youtube.com [link to www.youtube.com] If you watch it from Youtube.com it should automatically go to the next clip in the series. ....and whatever you do, DO NOT CLICK ON THIS LINK... no... don't do it... STOP!!!! I warned you.... [link to www.youtube.com] |
Motion & Rest (OP) User ID: 1339964 United States 04/13/2011 01:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Motion & RestSo he's the only one in heaven with a material body? Actually Enoch and Elijah were taken to heaven without dying. It is believed they will be the two witnesses talked about in Revelations. As well there is a verse that says when Yeshua rose from the tomb the old testament saints also rose and gave testimony in Jerusalem. So the old testament saints have already been resurrected. Maybe the heaven of the OT creator, but not from the heaven Christ is from. No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only, who is at the Father's side, has made him known. [link to bible.cc] I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. [link to bible.cc] You appear to not know that Yeshua was Jewish... as well I updated my last post with the verse from Matthew in the New Testament. OP, Israel and the Jewish people are very much part of The Father's plan of Salvation. Don't reject them or you you may find yourself in the Father's wrath at some point..... Yeshua is the God of the Old Testament my friend! No relation my friend. The Christ isn't from the evil OT creator. The Bible gave a warning about a dangerous, false prophet who would arise to test our faith in G-d. In Deuteronomy 13, G-d describes this false prophet as a member of the Jewish people (v. 2, 7) who would tell true prophecies and would have the power of miracles. G-d Himself would give this false prophet the power to perform miracles and reveal prophecy, but the false prophet would try to seduce the people away from G-d's Law and towards strange gods unknown to Judaism. The purpose would be to test whether we are truly committed to living under the Law, or whether we will be dazzled and fall for the temptation to join a false path to salvation (v. 3-6, 7-8, 11). In this Biblical passage, G-d repeatedly commands the Jews to kill this false prophet, lest the evil spread and destroy many souls. To be accepted by the people, the false prophet would sometimes pretend to be a righteous Jew who fulfills the Law, but at key moments he would turn against certain details of the Law in order to make the breach (v. 6, 7). This is the reason that verse 1 commands us not to add or subtract any details from the Law, and verse 5 warns us to remain steadfast with all the traditions of the Law. In Deuteronomy 17, this false prophet is also described as someone who would rebel against the authority of the judges of the Jewish people, and who should be put to death for his rebelliousness (v. 8-13, esp. v. 12). Who are the judges? The highest court in Israel was the Sanhedrin, which was established by Moses (Exodus 18:13-26; Numbers 11:16-29), and which lasted more than 15 centuries. The members of the Sanhedrin were the rabbis known as "Pharisees" (Pirushim, "those with the explanation"). G-d gave permanent authority to these judges to interpret the Law and G-d's Word, and it is a commandment to follow their decisions without turning even slightly to the right or the left (Deut. 17:11). But the false prophet would challenge the authority of the Sanhedrin, thus revealing himself to be an evil man. [link to www.noahide.com] Last Edited by Motion & Rest on 04/13/2011 01:17 AM Meow |
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Spawn User ID: 1056931 United States 04/13/2011 01:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Spawn No relation my friend. The Christ isn't from the evil OT creator. Then I pray for you because Yeshua said the OT prophets spoke of and prophesied of Him. The Lord is ONE! If you reject the OT then you reject everything Christ did in his pre-carnate state in the OT. ....and whatever you do, DO NOT CLICK ON THIS LINK... no... don't do it... STOP!!!! I warned you.... [link to www.youtube.com] |
Motion & Rest (OP) User ID: 1339964 United States 04/13/2011 01:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After his resurrection he went to Heaven and served as the High Priest that cleansed the heavenly tabernacle with is Holy Blood. Remember he told Mary not to touch his since he had not ascended yet to the Father. He was dressed in white as the High Priests were dressed when they went into the Holy of Hollies in the Tabernacle each Passover. He then returned to Earth 8 days later and presented himself to the rest of his Apostles (remember doubting Thomas). Then on the 40th day after his resurrection he went back to Heaven to prepare it for all believers. Quoting: SpawnWhen he was resurrected he had his immortal body, which all believers will have some day as well. That body could travel at the speed of thought, levitate, appear and disappear, walk through walls and eat! The bible says the corruptible must put on incorruptible before inheriting heaven. There is a good teaching on youtube.com I'll look for and post on this thread. Jesus could already do all that stuff before his resurrection. Theoretically so can we. Is it the body that hosts these abilities or the faith of the soul that inhabits the body? The bible makes it very clear that our corruptible bodies must put on incorruptibility to do any of those things Christ did when he was resurrected. Yeshua was God and by his divine power could have done those things at anytime. But he came to live as a MAN and to live by FAITH for an example to us who are not divine. After his Earthly mission was successful then he was the "first-fruits" that we are to be patterned after when we are resurrected. If Christ is God, then why this? 16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. Last Edited by Motion & Rest on 04/13/2011 01:25 AM Meow |
Motion & Rest (OP) User ID: 1339964 United States 04/13/2011 01:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Spawn No relation my friend. The Christ isn't from the evil OT creator. Then I pray for you because Yeshua said the OT prophets spoke of and prophesied of Him. The Lord is ONE! If you reject the OT then you reject everything Christ did in his pre-carnate state in the OT. And you have such strong faith in words written by man. The OT is plagiarized stories and a good history book, not much else. The god of Eden is nothing like the Spirit whom Christ represents. Meow |
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