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Vikings: The Nordic Homosexuals

 
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The evidence of the sagas and laws shows that male homosexuality was regarded in two lights: there was nothing at all strange or shameful about a man having intercourse with another man if he was in the active or "manly" role, however the passive partner in homosexual intercourse was regarded with derision. It must be remembered, however, that the laws and sagas reflect the Christian consciousness of the Icelander or Norwegian of the thirteenth and fourteenth centuries, well after the pagan period. The myths and legends show that honored gods and heroes were believed to have taken part in homosexual acts, which may indicate that pre-Christian Viking Scandinavia was more tolerant of homosexuality, and history is altogether silent as to the practice of lesbianism in the Viking Age.

Homosexuality was not regarded by the Viking peoples as being evil, perverted, innately against the laws of nature

Other evidences of the acceptance of homosexuality in some circumstances at least is provided by the fact that apparently there were some men who acted as homosexual concubines or prostitutes.

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whatever
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Man, what is going on around here today?

Gay Vikings now?

Yeah, probably.

Scary.

So what?
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can he swing that meat like an axe?
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so they were frantically trying to fukk other men before being fukked in return? maybe that explains their insane violence?
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can he swing that meat like an axe?
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Thor's hammer ;)
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damned
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can he swing that meat like an axe?
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Thor's hammer ;)
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rofl
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Right, and people are born gay also...

More bullshit to propagate the legitimacy of the gay and lesbian "lifestyle" as if it were a race. Gay slurs are treated like racial slurs. Fucking ridiculous... It's a sexual fetish. Nothing more. Nothing less.

People should be able to live as they please but I'm sick of it being brought up constantly. Gay, straight, in the end it's just not that god damned important either way. There were probably gays in every culture throughout history.

Flame away, but I wont see it. I've said my piece.
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Right, and people are born gay also...

More bullshit to propagate the legitimacy of the gay and lesbian "lifestyle" as if it were a race. Gay slurs are treated like racial slurs. Fucking ridiculous... It's a sexual fetish. Nothing more. Nothing less.

People should be able to live as they please but I'm sick of it being brought up constantly. Gay, straight, in the end it's just not that god damned important either way. There were probably gays in every culture throughout history.

Flame away, but I wont see it. I've said my piece.
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clappa
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I remember a professor of dark ages Europe telling a story in class about a lord of some castle in France around Charlemagne's time that had all of his knights and soldiers look for young pretty boys for their use. Most of the time they were never seen again. I guess all of the soldiers and the lords of the castle used them as their pleasure toys and looked for new ones as the old ones were killed off. The professor didn't say what role the women in the castle played during all these games. I also don't know how many decades this went on; but from what I gather it went on for decades and generations. So this kind of thing was taking place in Europe during the age of the Vikings before Christianity reached them. This was also taking place during the Empire of Charlemagne which was a Christian Empire, that stretched almost to the present day borders of France.
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The evidence of the sagas and laws shows that male homosexuality was regarded in two lights: there was nothing at all strange or shameful about a man having intercourse with another man if he was in the active or "manly" role, however the passive partner in homosexual intercourse was regarded with derision. It must be remembered, however, that the laws and sagas reflect the Christian consciousness of the Icelander or Norwegian of the thirteenth and fourteenth centuries, well after the pagan period. The myths and legends show that honored gods and heroes were believed to have taken part in homosexual acts, which may indicate that pre-Christian Viking Scandinavia was more tolerant of homosexuality, and history is altogether silent as to the practice of lesbianism in the Viking Age.

Homosexuality was not regarded by the Viking peoples as being evil, perverted, innately against the laws of nature

Other evidences of the acceptance of homosexuality in some circumstances at least is provided by the fact that apparently there were some men who acted as homosexual concubines or prostitutes.

[link to www.vikinganswerlady.com]
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And?

All peoples have had teh Gayness since the beginning, black, white, yellow makes no difference. The only surprise is that you appear surprised by this.
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The evidence of the sagas and laws shows that male homosexuality was regarded in two lights: there was nothing at all strange or shameful about a man having intercourse with another man if he was in the active or "manly" role, however the passive partner in homosexual intercourse was regarded with derision. It must be remembered, however, that the laws and sagas reflect the Christian consciousness of the Icelander or Norwegian of the thirteenth and fourteenth centuries, well after the pagan period. The myths and legends show that honored gods and heroes were believed to have taken part in homosexual acts, which may indicate that pre-Christian Viking Scandinavia was more tolerant of homosexuality, and history is altogether silent as to the practice of lesbianism in the Viking Age.

Homosexuality was not regarded by the Viking peoples as being evil, perverted, innately against the laws of nature

Other evidences of the acceptance of homosexuality in some circumstances at least is provided by the fact that apparently there were some men who acted as homosexual concubines or prostitutes.

[link to www.vikinganswerlady.com]
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FUCK OFF YOU FAGGOTS !!!!
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Gay propaganda.
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Why do you think it takes place in the military and in prisons etc. Its the busting a nut element. Sexual derangement caused by lack of females and men being abundant. Abusing people male or female is nothing new. I can only imagine/know it was worse back then. But men who go to prison dont "usually" change their sexual preference over it but it may. They were just things to be used or to do the using. They might have some headcase issues afterwards.

But wanting to be in another mans arms and cuddle and kiss etc. Thats a while different level of Gay. Not that either are right.
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This needs to be combined with yesterday's thread asserting that Vikings were black. Not being racist, just would love to see that racist poster scramble with this new "wrinkle"...could be interesting. Frankly, I don't give a hoot about Vikings...maybe they're more important in Minnesota?
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The Vikings were high-testosterone beasts. I can see them raping conquered men, but I doubt they took it up the ass. That's for submissive males.
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I dare OP to call a Viking a queer to his face.
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It's bullshit. No way OP can prove this unless he personally got in a time machine to go get pounded by vikings. Very likely OP is a shill trying to sugar coat this abomination.

fuckoff2 another do
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((((2013 response)))) lol

It is no surprise that homosexual activities went on between men of all cultures, and races. HOWEVER... What people seem to leave out, or forget, is that it wasn't looked at, or even treated the way we think of today.

1. Men did not marry men, no matter what their sexual preference may be. Even among homosexuals of the time, such behaviors of male emulating female, or men trying to emulate a male female relationship- was seen as unnatural, and even comical.

If two men were in love emotionally, and physically- they formed covenants- which were basically VERY strong, and loyal bond/agreement to the man you loved. You were still expected to marry a woman and have children- all of which were for very practical reasons. It was also not seen as favorable for the two men in such a relationship, to be promiscuous with other men.

2. Men who valued their masculinity, manhood, manliness- all those things, gay or straight it did not matter.. DID NOT ENGAGE IN ANY KIND OF ANAL SEX WHAT SO EVER- with each other. Such an act between men was associated with rape culture, as it was often done to defeated enemies for humiliation. It was also apart of slave culture, it was ok to do all kinds of twisted sexual things to a slave- someone who had absolutely no status. It was also seen as degrading, treating a man as a female, as it is the female who is supposed to submit to a man's well manhood (not in a slave-like manner), it was the female who was to be penetrated.

A man who allowed another man to treat him like a defeated enemy, a slave, or a female- was not seen as a man; and this does not mean he was seen as a woman, and therefore disrespected... He wasn't seen as a woman either, and remember there were female warriors, shield-maidens- who got respect.

A man who allowed another man to penetrate him- was seen as being incapable of being his own man.

3. Men who were in love emotionally and physically- and truly loved, and respected the man he was with, did something else sexually- which the Greeks called "rubbing of the genitals" or phallus to phallus sex, they'd basically be embraced (usually), rubbing their penises against each other, and or between one another thighs (intercurral sex). This was especially a huge thing among men who were warriors- and may have been in love with another man.

Did butt sex happen among men of the ancient world? Of course it did, it just wasn't seen as a favorable thing, or act of love between two men.. It was something seen in pornography- which was usually men with boys, something not ideal between two masculine strong men who were supposed to be equals, loved, respected, and were loyal together.

Butt sex began being pushed upon people during the "sexual revolution". It was brainwashing really, gay men were told "its not gay if its not anal", and today you have a lot of people thinking all gay men love it up the ass, or love giving it it the ass.. This is not true, there are gay men who are grossed out by butt sex, and find it degrading.

They also detest mainstream gay culture- you won't find them at the freak shows known as gay pride, they don't hang in gay bars. I've had them say many times "only time I'm gay is when in bed with my guy"... Yeah they don't use words like "Boyfriend" or "Husband" or call each other "Bitches".. They aren't ashamed of themselves, they just have a lot of respect for themselves, and don't feel the need to behave like something they are not.

And for the record Viking referred to the men who went out on the ships raiding, and trading- Anyone could be a Viking (wasn't easy), but they definitely had to adhere to the pagan beliefs 100%. Viking was basically were pirates- who were Swedish, Danish, Norwegian, or Nords if you like Skyrim ^_^ lol

I actually did a lot of research on this stuff, for a character I've been working on for a graphic novel/video game I'm now working on with some people. Was getting pretty sick and tired of the bullshit way male/male relationships especially if they were warriors, have been portrayed by Hollywood... I hate Hollywood.

FinallY! I saw someone mention homosexuality was a fetish. This is both true and false. There are in fact some people who are born gay, and science has proven that it can happen, though nobody knows why it happens. Its also rare, as natural born gays are outnumbered by people who do identify as gay due to curiosity and fetishism- which is also an addiction.

And no god does not hate gay peoples lol.
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Forgot to mention, you also had to be 100% loyal to the earl as well, and prove yourself... Again not easy, but it was doable. Race relations were not as rough, as people would like to think- and everyone of every race has been a slave.