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Do you think ya'll are being lied to about the radiation? Read this

 
nzreva  (OP)

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French say MASSIVE cover up in US , they want the real numbers.

[link to www.euractiv.com]
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SO DO WE WhoCares.
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Here in Saudi we are having winter. This is very unusual. We have had complete cloud cover for three days. Is this a nuclear winter event? I looked up the possibility and found only a link to glp. Anyone else having winter weather in the spring?
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Sunny here in southern California, hope you warm up too.
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It is absolutely clear that we need laws on the books that make anything but full disclosure of all known facts about industrial accidents mandatory. Whether you are a CEO or spokesperson or engineer, you are legally obligated to disclose all known facts regardless of corporate policy - punishable by harsh prison sentences. The decisions for how and when to disclose should not lie with investors or government when public safety is at risk.

Furthermore, when such accidents occur, the company responsible should be required to pay for independent deposition lawyers to individually interview every employee to probe them for facts. Under oath.
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It starts on GLP....Lets get the word out.

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US lifts voluntary evacuation advisory for Japan

The United States has lifted its voluntary evacuation advisory for families of government employees in Tokyo and other Japanese cities.

The US State Department had issued the advisory due to the crisis at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant. It had also recommended that US citizens should avoid travel within an 80-kilometer radius of the plant.

The department said on Thursday that the situation is dramatically different now than it was on March 16th when there were significant releases of radioactivity and the loss of effective measures to cool the reactor cores and spent fuel.

It said the cooling efforts are ongoing and successful, and that power and water supplies have been partially or fully restored.

The department said the health and safety risks for areas outside the 80-kilometer radius of the plant, including Tokyo and Nagoya, are low and do not pose significant risks to US citizens.

It said it will maintain the recommendation to avoid travel within the 80-kilometer zone, saying the situation there remains serious.

Friday, April 15, 2011 16:02 +0900 (JST)

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no.

i'm the most "sensitive" person i know. i can literally feel solar flares erupt through my body - heart chakra area (and first became aware of this during the last solar maximum 2000-2001).

it's gorgeous outside. it's a high energy time. there's an incredible amount of creative potential not being tapped due to a couple billion of us being polarized to war energy (which means alot of very ordinary people can invent new things or create beauty with less effort).

and may i say.... it's surprising to me that not more people contemplate that this planet-wide dose of radiation is being given to us now by a greater power - to help us in some way for coming earth changes/earth events, or etc.

my BFF would always say.... get out of your head and into your heart. you're missing out on some of the most amazing times - joyful energetic moments filled with an opportunity for personal transformation. never been more true. =)
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^^THIS^^ is hopeful, encouraging and brightened my rainy day more than you will ever know. Thank you!hfhf
nzreva  (OP)

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wow news to me, never heard about this one
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I did not know an I lived in Calif at the time.
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OMG!!! This needs to be PERMA-PINNED!

This is pure evil at work! Is it blatantly clear now that we are worse than DIRTY DOGS to corporations!

I am ashamed, this world is sick.
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I lived in Calif at this time, I never knew anything about this problem. Do you think we are hearing the truth about Japan?
I know alot of people in that area a few years later came down with cancer, no one, as I recall, in the media mentioned this innocent.
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OP, its over 50 years since that happened and we are still here. So what is your point?
People didn't know about this and carried on as normal and lived a nmormal life. Yes, the rise in cancer can be attributed to this but people accept it as normal.
So will the case be in Japan, even if it gets 100 times worse.
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OMG!!! This needs to be PERMA-PINNED!

This is pure evil at work! Is it blatantly clear now that we are worse than DIRTY DOGS to corporations!

I am ashamed, this world is sick.
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shark All they do is lie to us, lies lies liesspamsheep
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Could you please elaborate...
My mom was diagnosed in 09 with a terminal horribly aggressive brain tumor at the age of 52. We were told in Houston that it was a rare tumor but that our area ( NE Texas ) was a Cancer Cluster with a high rate of these tumors among many other types of cancer. They assumed it was "environmental", but wouldn't say anything past that.
I moved back from SoCal to care for her until her death last year. During that 15 months all 4 people in our household and 5 of the 7 dogs had bladder/ urinary infections of unknown origin.
As I found out about more and more middle aged and young people in our community dying of cancer and seeing the local Cancer Treatment Center PACKED FULL everyday, I really tried looking into our water. I couldn't find anyone to do an independent test and was ran in circles, ending up at the only water testing company (that tested our Cities water) who talked me in circles for over an hour concluding that an independent water test would cost me several thousand dollars and wouldn't be feasible.
I wanted to pursue this further obviously but was so busy caring for my mother full time that it got pushed to the back.
Is there anything to be done anyway?
Feels like we are past that point. My whole family fell apart anyway and it won't bring my mom back but I would just like to know the TRUTH.


What about non-ionizing microwave exposure from cell towers, cell phones, and cordless home phones. There are many cancer clusters around cell towers and radio towers, but doctors would most likely be hesitant to point the finger at such a big and powerful industry. I would keep this in mind as well as the ground water.

You can find a lot of info by googling cell tower and cancer clusters.

[link to www.vws.org]
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US lifts voluntary evacuation advisory for Japan

The United States has lifted its voluntary evacuation advisory for families of government employees in Tokyo and other Japanese cities.

The US State Department had issued the advisory due to the crisis at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant. It had also recommended that US citizens should avoid travel within an 80-kilometer radius of the plant.

The department said on Thursday that the situation is dramatically different now than it was on March 16th when there were significant releases of radioactivity and the loss of effective measures to cool the reactor cores and spent fuel.

It said the cooling efforts are ongoing and successful, and that power and water supplies have been partially or fully restored.

The department said the health and safety risks for areas outside the 80-kilometer radius of the plant, including Tokyo and Nagoya, are low and do not pose significant risks to US citizens.

It said it will maintain the recommendation to avoid travel within the 80-kilometer zone, saying the situation there remains serious.

Friday, April 15, 2011 16:02 +0900 (JST)

don't have a go at me, im just the messenger.
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There is no face palm big enough...
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More radiation cover up for those of you near the south side of chicago:

[link to www.chicagoreader.com]
[link to www.iaea.org]

It came to light in 1990's and IL dept of health says no worries, it's all perfectly safe.
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US lifts voluntary evacuation advisory for Japan

The United States has lifted its voluntary evacuation advisory for families of government employees in Tokyo and other Japanese cities.

The US State Department had issued the advisory due to the crisis at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant. It had also recommended that US citizens should avoid travel within an 80-kilometer radius of the plant.

The department said on Thursday that the situation is dramatically different now than it was on March 16th when there were significant releases of radioactivity and the loss of effective measures to cool the reactor cores and spent fuel.

It said the cooling efforts are ongoing and successful, and that power and water supplies have been partially or fully restored.

The department said the health and safety risks for areas outside the 80-kilometer radius of the plant, including Tokyo and Nagoya, are low and do not pose significant risks to US citizens.

It said it will maintain the recommendation to avoid travel within the 80-kilometer zone, saying the situation there remains serious.

Friday, April 15, 2011 16:02 +0900 (JST)

don't have a go at me, im just the messenger.
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There is no face palm big enough...
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your governments words....no one else`s.
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Here in Saudi we are having winter. This is very unusual. We have had complete cloud cover for three days. Is this a nuclear winter event? I looked up the possibility and found only a link to glp. Anyone else having winter weather in the spring?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1342818


It feels like Saudi here in TX. Winter was over here two weeks ago. It goes like this in TX...Winter/Summer/HELL.
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We have had radiation in our ground water for years in TX, huge cover up.
 Quoting: nzreva

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And you are doing nothing about it except telling us here.
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Do you think ya'll are being lied to about the radiation? Read this about the melt down in Calif. in 1959 and 1964. No one knows about, and still is being covered up, as of yet not cleaned up.

[link to www.loe.org]
 Quoting: nzreva


yep in CA here my whole family ( cept for my Mom who didn't go outside much ) DIED of cancer

just me , my Sis and Mom left now out of a huge family
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I understand, my family has been stricken with cancer too. Lost my Mom (multiple forms of cancer, including leukemia), my brother now has invasive melanoma, cousin has been battling invasive melanoma for about 18 years and has almost died from it more than once (her dad had skin cancer too, is now dead but not from cancer), sister in law just beat breast cancer (her dad is ready to die from lung cancer any day) (her mother has had a relapse of breast cancer). Ohio
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Been around for 56, almost 57 years. Lied to? Nothing new. You lie to yourself if you think that what is going on in this nation has anything to do with GOOD!
nzreva  (OP)

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Do you think ya'll are being lied to about the radiation? Read this about the melt down in Calif. in 1959 and 1964. No one knows about, and still is being covered up, as of yet not cleaned up.

[link to www.loe.org]
 Quoting: nzreva


yep in CA here my whole family ( cept for my Mom who didn't go outside much ) DIED of cancer

just me , my Sis and Mom left now out of a huge family
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I understand, my family has been stricken with cancer too. Lost my Mom (multiple forms of cancer, including leukemia), my brother now has invasive melanoma, cousin has been battling invasive melanoma for about 18 years and has almost died from it more than once (her dad had skin cancer too, is now dead but not from cancer), sister in law just beat breast cancer (her dad is ready to die from lung cancer any day) (her mother has had a relapse of breast cancer). Ohio
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hf so sorry. People need to know.
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Great find OP...first ever nuclear accident in the US.
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Definitely not the first. Most definitely not.

This is just a very small example:

[ [link to www.idealist.ws] ]
1,300 Curies; Estimated number of Curies of I-131 released by 1959 meltdown 'power run 14' at Boeing-Rocketdyne Nuclear Facility (Santa Susana Field Lab) more; another estimate was 10x higher.

10,000 Curies; Estimated number of Curies of I-131 released from 'Green Run' (Hanford) in 1949

1,100,000 Curies; Number of Curies of I-131 released from Hanford Nuclear Reservation during 1940s and 1950s

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There was a WW2 toxic waste dump buried underground and then River Valley School was built over top of it not too far from here in Marion county. That made many children sick with leukemia. EPA came in, did a very "private" investigation, they checked for radiation, said everything was "fine". Local officials immediately shut down the school, shipped the children off to other schools, built a new school far away from the old one, and bulldozed the old one down. SCREAMS OF COVERUP
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Here in Saudi we are having winter. This is very unusual. We have had complete cloud cover for three days. Is this a nuclear winter event? I looked up the possibility and found only a link to glp. Anyone else having winter weather in the spring?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1342818




It's called global warming, didn't you know? lol
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Maybe this has already been mentioned, but they may use Japan's reactor as a scapegoat for all the nuclear contamination taking place over the past 60 years.
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More like 66 years... July 16th, 1945.
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Here in Saudi we are having winter. This is very unusual. We have had complete cloud cover for three days. Is this a nuclear winter event? I looked up the possibility and found only a link to glp. Anyone else having winter weather in the spring?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1342818


It feels like Saudi here in TX. Winter was over here two weeks ago. It goes like this in TX...Winter/Summer/HELL.
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Spring was nice this year in Texas. I really loved those 2 weeks.
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Maybe this has already been mentioned, but they may use Japan's reactor as a scapegoat for all the nuclear contamination taking place over the past 60 years.
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More like 66 years... July 16th, 1945.
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Come to think of it it goes back a bit further than 1945... try around 1943 when the some of the earliest (not the earliest either) nuclear reactors went online. So is more like 68 years.
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Do you think ya'll are being lied to about the radiation? Read this about the melt down in Calif. in 1959 and 1964. No one knows about, and still is being covered up, as of yet not cleaned up.

[link to www.loe.org]
 Quoting: nzreva


And as for the partial meltdown in 1959, Boeing writes:

“The 1959 Sodium Reactor Experiment (SRE) incident was not a ‘meltdown.’ Measurements and data taken at the time determined that releases were contained and controlled in accordance with regulatory guidelines. The SRE facility has since been properly decommissioned and cleaned up and has not adversely impacted the surrounding communities.”

My family lived in simi valley...my sister had a 26lb ovarian cist..I had numerus cists removed..

God I ask u Too come.... for they know WHAT THEY DO TO US!!
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Downwinder Day – 2011 USA – from Andrew Kishner, Paul Langley’s Nuclear History Blog, 27 Jan 2011, Sixty years ago today, the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission conducted itsfirst ‘experimental nuclear detonation’ at the Las Vegas Bombing and Gunnery Range. The date was January 27, 1951. The time was 5:45 am. The bomb test was dubbed ‘Able.’
No one but those with military clearance knew about the test. No one
but those with military clearance knew about the radioactive clouds
that floated above the continental United States. No one was warned
about the dangers of nuclear radiation that would permeate the air and
fall on crops, homes and cisterns.

Able was the first air-dropped nuclear bomb on U.S. soil and, as with
airbursts like those that occurred over Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the
greatest ‘fallout’ occurred where there was the greatest
precipitation. Nearly 36 hours after detonation, ‘nuclear clouds’
encountered a snowstorm in Rochester, New York, and began increasing
radiation levels. Kodak’s Geiger Counters recorded readings 25 times
background radiation levels. Determined to get to the bottom of what
was causing the radiation spike, which would have very real threats to
the company’s film supplies, Kodak officials filed a complaint with a
Washington lobby group that cabled the AEC with the following message:

“Tests snowfall Rochester Monday by Eastman Kodak Company give 10,000
counts per minute, whereas equal volume snow falling previous Friday
gave only 400 STOP. Situation serious STOP. Will report any further
results obtained STOP. What are you doing? STOP”

The following day, the AEC released a statement to the Associated
Press saying that it was “investigating reports that snow that fell in
Rochester was measurably radioactive…” Nothing was said about
conducting an atom bomb test.

Sometime later, Kodak was the first to learn the truth – an AEC
Commissioner told a general manager at Kodak that a nuclear test had
taken place in Nevada two days before their elevated readings took
place. Kodak, naturally, feared that the atom bomb test program of
the AEC would, like in a 1945 incident after ‘Trinity,’ cause damage
to their film stock.

Kodak threatened to sue the AEC. The AEC capitulated to the legal
threats. Kodak was given ‘Q Clearance’ for maps and forecasts of all
bomb tests.

When it was learned years later that no American was given these maps
and forecasts – only Kodak and its industry peers – the reaction of
those who came to realize their bodies too became ‘exposed’ by the
fallout was one of anger and rage.



Read entire story here:

[link to nuclear-news.net]


disgusting liars.
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When a retired high-ranking military man first told this author (Fritz Springmeier) that radiation research had to do with mind-control, my reaction was probably like most people’s, puzzlement. I thought that radiation was quite lethal and that genetic research with radiation was to protect us from some kind of atomic attack. Wrong. That is a nice cover story.

Research into how to control humans genetically proceeded in several directions. First, scientists realized that radiation was the key to changing genetics. Radiation causes breaks and changes in the DNA instructions. If only one little bit of genetic DNA instruction is changed in 1 million bits of information, that change could radically change the life of the person or animal. We see that everyday cleft lips... But how does radiation affect genetics? DNA has been studied from every angle.

DNA has been looked at, probed, tested with all kinds of chemicals and countless other manipulations. The scientists figured exactly how the different DNA is constructed, what makes it tick, how it joins, holds together, reproduces, etc. They can disassemble and rebuild DNA however they want. DNA is the genetic instructions.

Since radiation will affect DNA they tested a long list of ionizing radiation substances on DNA. Different radiations will break the DNA in different ways. Chemicals will join to DNA in certain ways. Long story short, there are millions of ways to manipulate genetic material, and the World Order set out to discover how to precisely manipulate certain kinds of genetic material in certain ways. (Deeper Insights Into The Illuminati Formula by Fritz Springmeier Chapter 8)


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ATTN: SAUDI ARABIAN POSTER

The term "nuclear winter" describes the effects of a large scale thermo nuclear exchange where massive amounts of dust and debris are ejected into the atmosphere from ground burst weapons. All of this debris then blocks the sun light plunging the globe into a "nuclear winter". The radiation leaking from fuckushima is not capable of affecting global weather patterns. It is just going to slowly poison all of us as the radiation spreads.

Nuclear winter is just a theory at this point I dont think anyone really knows if thats how it'd go down...
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Now you all know the REAL REASONS FOR CANCER.

There is no other explaination, passive smokeing is a laughtable explaination, it is NOT TRUE.

Cancer is a direct result of Radiation.
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Do you think ya'll are being lied to about the radiation?
 Quoting: nzreva


Yes.

The entire radiation crisis is a staged psyop to scare and distract us.

If you look back a couple weeks at the pinned threads, everyone was saying people on the U.S. west coast would be sick or dead by now.

We need to get over it already. It was a hoax perpetuated by our military-run media.
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No, no it is not a hoax. This DID and IS CONTINUING to happen.

Since 9/11 and the ensuing aftermath of dissecting what turned out to be the False Flag of the Century, we are no longer fooled by shit.

Too many facts are evident to quantify your view as valid.
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Facts? What facts?

All I see are reports funneled through media agencies.

The video of the reactors exploding funneled through mainstream media. It could have easily been CGI. The whole event was brought to us in spectacular fashion by lying fear-mongering media.
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uh-huh. go drink lots of California milk and then report back.
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I lived in Calif at this time, I never knew anything about this problem. Do you think we are hearing the truth about Japan?
I know alot of people in that area a few years later came down with cancer, no one, as I recall, in the media mentioned this innocent.
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Ah, but don't you realize ... They got cancer because they smoked cigarettes ... or they were exposed to second hand smoke ... or third hand smoke. ;)
 Quoting: Aquarius 7

Yes, but not from cigarettes... its the second hand smoke from nuclear weapons detonations that can give you lung cancer and all sorts of other cancers and even birth defects.. and the second hand smoke from nuclear power plant 'accidents'.





GLP