The Moon: A perfect orbiting Space Station. Why have we not gone back??

No, AC 1042753 did that.

AC 1293514 merely pointed out that if you are going to make a stupid analogy, you don't get to pick which part you use and which you don't.

And the basic case is correct. The inner VARB is populated by alpha particles, which have trouble getting through a sheet of paper. It is as easy to shield against those particles as it is to protect the operator of a household microwave oven. (Although it is currently done in a different way).

(The outer is populated by beta particles, which have a nasty habit of spalling out photons when they hit a metallic objects...but you can do that to them, and stop the resulting spray of photons with the following layer.)

(The not-quite-right analogy here would be Israeli tank armor -- which is now the de-facto way every country armors against shaped charges and frangible kinetic-kill weapons.)

"(no one wants their enemy orbiting around them like a death star)"






For the Death Star

We were warned off the moon. There are massisve alien basis on the moon. The people there are humanoid but in disagreement with the real rulers of Earth.

Check out 'INGO SWANN'. He was a remote sensor and did lots of journeys to the moon for the secret services, travelling using his mind. Most of his books are hard to come by now. There are some good U tube videos.

Ingo also said the moon has an atmosphere.

We were given a warning to keep off the moon.

No man has ever left LEO.

Moon dust? I'm not buying that. We have IED suits that protect from full frontal explosions, space probes that endure the inner belt, rovers that have lasted 10 years on Mars, and remote controlled butt plugs. Surely the human race would have developed a solution within a matter of years, if that was the case. How fast did we come up with an alternate solution when silicone breasts were found to be harmful? Boobs and space suits- do you see the similarity? Please report this back to your friend at NASA...or is he your 'uncle'?

I've heard quite a bit on this theory. Very interesting to say the least..

Seems out there, but anything is possible...

This is probably the best answer. I'm sorry, but I cannot find my link, but if you search YouTube, maybe you can still find the video of one of the lunar landings that explains it.

Yes, they DID land on the moon, and what they found there was NOT what we would not want to believe. NASA is not into being made the laughing stock of the world, so they didn't tell us that they found that the dark side of the moon is already inhabited by aliens, and the aliens DID make contact with the astronauts who walked on the moon.

One astronaut was mesmerized and almost fell into their clutches, while the other one was told, "Leave this place, and NEVER come back!" As for the one who was mesmerized, Houston needed to convince him not to go into the volcano-like areas (not that they WERE volcanoes, but that they were SHAPED LIKE volcanoes) where the aliens were staying and instead, run--not walk, but RUN--back to the lunar module so they could lift off IMMEDIATELY before the aliens would attack. They never went back.

In short. The reason we DON'T return to the Moon is that they ARE already there, and they ARE more advanced than we are, and if we provoke a war--with our PRIMATIVE technology, it would be STUPID, so we stay away and hope that they will leave us alone.

The moon should be the space station. Putting our minds together would've solved many of the technical problems, if not all of them.
(just sayin')

I think this is the video that I was thinking of, and ha-ha, what I described as "volcano like areas" were craters.

Does anyone know how to translate Spanish into English?

Oh, well, at least, if you listen carefully, you can hear the astronaut and Houston arguing about whether he could go to investigate the aliens or if he had to run back to the spacecraft and get the hell out of there.

There are some interesting videos on the video bar on the right, such as a very interesting speach by Neil Armstrong, where he seems to be trying to tell us something, but he is not allowed to, so he said it very cryptically.

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never been there and I think the evidence proving that fact is building every day as we analyze more footage. moon landing was faked Radiation kills and if we dont have the tech to get there now we certainly didnt have the tech back then

White technically and scientifically it is plausible and possible to set up a moon base, mine the moon, and eventually hollow the damn thing out (over hundreds or thousands of years).

There is no political interest, no economic interest, no public interest.

The only reason why we went to the moon is because we were having the 'biggest dick' contest of all time against the USSR.

It was a political ploy to 'show-up' communism.

It wasn't for anything noble, it was two nations using pride.

Today it should not be a national political interest to exploit space.

It should be an international, commercial interest.

Until such time that there is an international desire to make money off the materials of the moon, we will not do much more then shoot off a few probes and make and break promises to return to the moon.

Well, since you only get about 5 rads going through the VARB, I think they'd be okay.

Bingo!

We did go back! Man went to the moon a total of 6 times between 1969 and 1972. After that the public lost interest.:

* Apollo-11
* Apollo-12
* Apollo-14
* Apollo-15
* Apollo-16
* Apollo-17

Rocket technology is largely the same.

There would be one heck of a return on investment, just in developing the science and technology and industry to do so, it is a much better technology driver than bombing other nations for control over their 'oil' and 'drug' supplies.

The spin off returns on the investment from 1961 to 1969 in just the Moon Race alone have been pulling the world along every since. Very little of what you might consider modern standard of living would even yet be in existence without the first race to the Moon.

We choose to return to the Moon and colonize it, not because it is easy, but because it is hard.

And further more, the U.S.A. should be leading the way. Otherwise the U.S.A. will not be in any position from stopping China from setting up colonies o the Moon and not allowing anyone else to even get out of Low Earth Orbit. China is dead serious about colonizing the Moon.

Dear Spanish Flagged AC, no, you Spaniards never did go to the Moon, that much of what you said is true. However, the U.S.A. did land men on the Moon, and the U.S.S.R did in fact land robotic probes there as well. So, no, Spain did not go to the Moon. There is no reason for Spain to return to the Moon, as it never has gone... not even into Low Earth Orbit.

We havnt been back because there was already someone there, and they told us to gtfo and dont come back...

Except they went AROUND the majority of the Van Allen belts
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And Van Allen himself said there was no problem with it.

The reason there is a radiation concern with going to Mars is the chance of being hit with a flare goes from very low for the two week trip of Apollo to nearly definite for the multiple months long trip to Mars.

I remimber hearing that they were told not to come back.

There we go.. yes, pre-lander Robotics to pave the way, the glass-way. I had heard that about the dust problems long ago, from other friends involved in the NASA manned Moon adventures.

Have also heard of the possibility of using such robotic pre-cursors to lay down massive tracks of built on the site solar-electric arrays tens of miles long to help provide power sources for other robotic equipment.

Actually, the dust may well be a very difficult nut to crack.

Wow, you are proof that some people will believe anything, no matter how asinine it is.

The technology to exist there safely for long periods of time does not yet exist.

So, what.

The technology to even get there didn't exist 50 years ago, either. You can't solve a problem if you are unwilling to work the problem. 100 years ago the technology to fly non-stop around the world did not exist, either.

60 years ago the technology to do open heart surgery didn't exist either.

We choose to do these things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard.

Just the Helium-3 on the Moon alone, in conjunction with hot nuclear fusion would be able to provide massive amounts of electrical power on the Moon with which to do all sorts of things.

And yes, it would be very interesting to drill a bunch of shafts 3 miles down into the crust of the Moon just to see what's there.

Whatever we have learned in Space has again and again bring brought down to Earth and used here to advance our civilization.

Many of us Humans would rather we get colonizing the Solar System in massive numbers than just allow ourselves to lazily just be content to be a constantly culled ZOO herd here on Earth with our human population numbers being constantly culled to only 500 Million People... like the "stuck on Earthers" would have us all be.

There is that... indeed.

We did not get kicked off the Moon... there was nothing there to kick us off. If anything we discovered that WE had already been there long long ago, and that discovery just blew our corporate mind... and we asked ourselves, what happened to us that it took us thousands of years to get back there.

I think Venus should be towed to a new orbit of 91 Million Miles from the Sun, and Mars moved in to a new orbit of 95 Million miles... perhaps that act along would make them both more habitable to humans than Luna, and in only a short time. Just as long as we got them into stable orbits.

But you can't just go up there and prove that, not even to yourself, now, can you? What if they were man made?

I really want to see an entire swarm of long term powered Lunar rovers far beyond Spirit and Opportunity Martian rovers, that can stay and zoom around on the Moon, with HDTV cams just looking at things our telescopes and even Lunar Orbiting cams cannot make out or see.

I think we need literally hundred of them if not thousand of them up there at the same time, doing a very massive snoop about.. and all broadcasts from them be fully open channel TV... for the entire world to see... all the time.

Thar Bye See Monstyrs Thar... and Giants in the Land.. don't go.. don't go.. the See-Monstyrs and Giants will git yar azz.