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shadasonic

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[link to anf.ucsd.edu]

Canada and the midwest are picking up!


The craton is getting restless!

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Today I am sitting with my brother in the hospital while they harvest stem cells for his upcoming transplant. I have no acceses to a computer so I don't know much about events toaday But I can use my iPhone to read and post Not much else to do in this cold hospital room
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Prayers are with you my brother!
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Thks shad. Please keep me posted on events today. I'm pretty isolated here...... And the nurse won't stop talking lol
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Today I am sitting with my brother in the hospital while they harvest stem cells for his upcoming transplant. I have no acceses to a computer so I don't know much about events toaday But I can use my iPhone to read and post Not much else to do in this cold hospital room
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Prayers being sent out to your Brother Batman.

Namaste.
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Today I am sitting with my brother in the hospital while they harvest stem cells for his upcoming transplant. I have no acceses to a computer so I don't know much about events toaday But I can use my iPhone to read and post Not much else to do in this cold hospital room
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Hello Gabe - Prayers being sent your way.

Pls keep the info from goats flowing.
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Prayers sent your way for your brother, Gabe!

hf
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4.2 2012/09/07 13:23:49 36.119 -120.054 8.4 CENTRAL CALIFORNIA
4.0 2012/09/07 13:22:10 36.122 -120.046 11.1 CENTRAL CALIFORNIA

[link to earthquake.usgs.gov]
Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
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Hope all goes well, Gabe.
Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
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Give your brother my best wishes for a successful transplant. I donated a kidney to my brother two months ago. One of the best things I've ever done. He's doing fantastic so I hope for the same results for your family.
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Today I am sitting with my brother in the hospital while they harvest stem cells for his upcoming transplant. I have no acceses to a computer so I don't know much about events toaday But I can use my iPhone to read and post Not much else to do in this cold hospital room
 Quoting: Gabriel


Prayers are with you my brother!
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Thks shad. Please keep me posted on events today. I'm pretty isolated here...... And the nurse won't stop talking lol
 Quoting: Gabriel


May God keep your brother safe and sound, healed and well.
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Hope everything goes well for your brother Gabe.
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You guys are awesome. He's doing okay. This stem cell harvesting is a long ordeal All week. This is his last day. I thought I'd keep him company today
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Thank God for the comfort and aid of family. smile_hear
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Today I am sitting with my brother in the hospital while they harvest stem cells for his upcoming transplant. I have no acceses to a computer so I don't know much about events toaday But I can use my iPhone to read and post Not much else to do in this cold hospital room
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Gabe,sorry to hear this, but thankful possibilities are available. Hope the best for your brother.

hugs
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Today I am sitting with my brother in the hospital while they harvest stem cells for his upcoming transplant. I have no acceses to a computer so I don't know much about events toaday But I can use my iPhone to read and post Not much else to do in this cold hospital room
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Prayers being sent out to your Brother Batman.

Namaste.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


+1
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2MIN News Sept 7, 2012: Deadly Quake, Morning Conjunction

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Today I am sitting with my brother in the hospital while they harvest stem cells for his upcoming transplant. I have no acceses to a computer so I don't know much about events toaday But I can use my iPhone to read and post Not much else to do in this cold hospital room
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Best wishes to you and your brotherhf
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Today I am sitting with my brother in the hospital while they harvest stem cells for his upcoming transplant. I have no acceses to a computer so I don't know much about events toaday But I can use my iPhone to read and post Not much else to do in this cold hospital room
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Gabe,sorry to hear this, but thankful possibilities are available. Hope the best for your brother.

hugs
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Hello Isis. How is your recovery coming along?
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Today I am sitting with my brother in the hospital while they harvest stem cells for his upcoming transplant. I have no acceses to a computer so I don't know much about events toaday But I can use my iPhone to read and post Not much else to do in this cold hospital room
 Quoting: Gabriel


Gabe,sorry to hear this, but thankful possibilities are available. Hope the best for your brother.

hugs
 Quoting: Isis7


Hello Isis. How is your recovery coming along?
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Hiya El, I'm hanging in there, Monday I get the stitches out, Tuesday another x-ray to check my shoulder/arm position. Feeling much better today, still needing my naps though. Hope all is well with you and your's brother.

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NOAA: What happens at the sun doesn't stay at the sun

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Hey Gabe, I know this is a little late since your post was from this AM, but I just wanted to send some good wishes and prayers for you and your family. Take care!

hf
Perfer et Obdura;Dolor hic tibi proderit olim.Fortes Fortuna Iuvat! (Be Patient & Strong; someday this pain will be useful to you. Fortune favors the brave)
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Hey Gabe, I know this is a little late since your post was from this AM, but I just wanted to send some good wishes and prayers for you and your family. Take care!

hf
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Thanks vesper. He did well today. For the week they harvested 7.5 mil stem cells..... Plenty for his transplant at the end of the month.
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Hey Gabe, I know this is a little late since your post was from this AM, but I just wanted to send some good wishes and prayers for you and your family. Take care!

hf
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Thanks vesper. He did well today. For the week they harvested 7.5 mil stem cells..... Plenty for his transplant at the end of the month.
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Glad things went well, best wishes and prayers for you and your brother.
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NOAA: What happens at the sun doesn't stay at the sun

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Hi Isis....... Do you know Lisa ?

LISA was given a high priority among large space projects. The "...recommendation and prioritization reflect its compelling science case and the [high] relative level of technical readiness" compared to other opportunities.
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More discussion on seeing the future.... Maybe why NASA can make some predictions on solar storm dates in the future??



Will an observer falling into a black hole be able to witness all future events in the universe outside the black hole?

The normal presentation of these gravitational time dilation effects can lead one to a mistaken conclusion. It is true that if an observer (A) is stationary near the event horizon of a black hole, and a second observer (B) is stationary at great distance from the event horizon, then B will see A's clock to be ticking slow, and A will see B's clock to be ticking fast. But if A falls down toward the event horizon (eventually crossing it) while B remains stationary, then what each sees is not as straight forward as the above situation suggests.
As B sees things: A falls toward the event horizon, photons from A take longer and longer to climb out of the "gravtiational well" leading to the apparent slowing down of A's clock as seen by B, and when A is at the horizon, any photon emitted by A's clock takes (formally) an infinite time to get out to B. Imagine that each person's clock emits one photon for each tick of the clock, to make it easy to think about. Thus, A appears to freeze, as seen by B, just as you say. However, A has crossed the event horizon! It is only an illusion (literally an "optical" illusion) that makes B think A never crosses the horizon.

As A sees things: A falls, and crosses the horizon (in perhaps a very short time). A sees B's clock emitting photons, but A is rushing away from B, and so never gets to collect more than a finite number of those photons before crossing the event horizon. (If you wish, you can think of this as due to a cancellation of the gravitational time dilation by a doppler effect --- due to the motion of A away from B). After crossing the event horizon, the photons coming in from above are not easily sorted out by origin, so A cannot figure out how B's clock continued to tick.

A finite number of photons were emitted by A before A crossed the horizon, and a finite number of photons were emitted by B (and collected by A) before A crossed the horizon.

You might ask What if A were to be lowered ever so slowly toward the event horizon? Yes, then the doppler effect would not come into play, UNTIL, at some practical limit, A got too close to the horizon and would not be able to keep from falling in. Then A would only see a finite total of photons form B (but now a larger number --- covering more of B's time). Of course, if A "hung on" long enough before actually falling in, then A might see the future course of the universe.

Bottom line: simply falling into a black hole won't give you a view of the entire future of the universe. Black holes can exist without being part of the final big crunch, and matter can fall into black holes.
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Hey Gabe!I was talking to a good friend of mine he's a bio-chemist with years of physics experience and I brought up some of your posts and he says you're dead on about the event horizon sequence and doesn't doubt one bit the experiment of guiding a satellite into a black hole.

He added that the 'singularity' at the centre of a black hole occurs as the distortion becomes infinite,and at this point the known laws of physics no longer apply, we are beyond them. If general relativity sheds some light on where time comes from, it doesn't tell us what time is, and Einsteins general relativity is not the final answer to this equation.Relativity offers us no description or explanation for the extreme phnomena of our cosmos. Even the theory of quantum gravity eludes us at this point.

I was very intrigued by your and his retorts,these are the type of discussions that get me 'going'. AWESOME STUFF!!!!applause2

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[link to geophysics.eas.gatech.edu]

Can anyone explain why there are so many small quakes showing up above? Has been going on for a few hours now and I can't find anything to explain why. Nothing is showing up on [link to quakes.globalincidentmap.com] to explain it.

Doesn't usually even pick up the small EQ's in CA, so it must be something else.
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Maybe this:

[link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu]
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I've ran into that many times and was always told it was a glitch, not sure if thats right though!
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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watch ANF. I know a lot of people say it's a bunch of false alarms, but you can almost always verify the quakes through helicorders
[link to anf.ucsd.edu]
We live in NE Alabama and watch this daily. USGS is killing pretty much everything east of the river. Watch ANF and CERI.

The GA Tech graph you linked to looks pretty normal for any given day. It gets much more intense then that when something hits closer.
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watch ANF. I know a lot of people say it's a bunch of false alarms, but you can almost always verify the quakes through helicorders
[link to anf.ucsd.edu]
We live in NE Alabama and watch this daily. USGS is killing pretty much everything east of the river. Watch ANF and CERI.

The GA Tech graph you linked to looks pretty normal for any given day. It gets much more intense then that when something hits closer.
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Good and informative!
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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2MIN News Sept 8, 2012: Earth-Sun Connection, Planetary Positions

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