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Text books say earth's tilt is 23.5 degrees. Maybe those 8+ EQ's that shifted the earth's axis past couple years tilted it more than they disclosed. I wonder how many more degrees than disclosed would cause us to see this difference in sunrise angle? Also, 'normally' I watch the sun all summer from the backyard. I'd say the sun is travelling a total of 45 degrees or more as opposed to about 28 degrees or so observed in the past.
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Sorry for posting so much, my grandson was watching 'Fifth Element' and well, I took advantage of the time he was occupied.

@ Gabe, we miss ya buddy.

@ Shad, glad you like it :)

@ Tauranga, and Moxiechick, stay safe, that goes for AK also, still feel somethings brewing for Alaska (hope I'm wrong)

Love and joy to all.

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Thanks Isis! Hope you had a good weekend with grandson. Enjoyed the videos...been peeking in on them while my kiddos are watching movies with their grandparents.
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shoot, I have looked at the whole of it and still can't get my feeble mind around it :)
interesting days
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Take yor mind away from what you see on earth. Now in your mind, view the earth from far away in space and imagin how delicate a balance it takes for life to exist on the tiny blue planet and how very little things from that vantage point can disturbed that balance.... Now you see earth getting submerged in cloud like masses coming from one direction and more energy coming from a belching black hole in the center of the galaxy It really doesn't take much to cause those tiny little ants on that blue planet to experience things they never have before.... Now from your vantage point deep in space what's occurring seems like days but for theses ants it's been thousands of years.
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Gabe - does that mean the cloud has penetrated our heliosphere or the size of heliosphere has reduced?alowing the cloud to come closer to us???
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@ Moon and sun position. I too noticed a change....and it's seemed to have really changed ALOT this year. I think what first drew my attention to the sun was the lighting...it's a bit weaker to me. When you drive mtn roads you really notice when light is missing from certain turns...because when it's cold that's where you are looking for ice.

My personal thoughts are that people see what they expect to see...a sun...a moon. Not many people pay attention to the natural world anymore. For many who do....there is usually a blurp on the science page or on the news about the planting seasons and global warming...I agree White Angel!

Things are indeed getting harder to explain away. The seasons are all wonky...not just missing...sometimes I think we get a full years worth of seasons in a quarter. The earth is changing so much, so fast it's hard to keep track of. So much of our Earth is covered in water....I think there is even more happening on this planet that we cannot see.

Gabe~ I hear you about the big picture. Its hard not to let one thing catch your attention for too long, to keep thinking about it all being connected. I read something once about a child's perception of time and memory....we the children of the earth share that perception.
The comment about the earth expanding really resonated with me...that and water...the seas, the flooding, buoys in event mode, rogue waves. That's what caught my attention about the thread that mentions 400m.


Yall all have a good night!! Again..thanks for the wonderful buffet of info tonight!
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So, is it the earth that has changed or the sun? That is what I wonder.
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It all changes, we're in a spiral rotation as we move our system moves in a galactic spiral. Everything is being altered to a very small fraction,which is huge for us(more than huge). In 1963 they discovered cosmic microwave radiation,this gave us a cosmic history.The anthropic principle, which asserts that the universe or god held a special place in their hearts for us and arranged an almost perfect living plane.This goes against the copernican principle that we 're nothing special and everything is random. Physicist Brandon Carter said " Although our situation is not necessarily central,we're definitely priviledged." There are three scenarios in the anthropic principle that seemingly prove we are a race of destiny and not chance. These are an open and closed universe and push and pull. If the helium to hydrogen ratio had been 0.008 of a differential,no us, and this is one of a million instances of probability transference
It would take days and pages to fully explain this, but times are changing and they are meant to,as we are. We were meant to be here and we will continue to evolve, some just slower than others. Much love and peace to all!
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@ the moon and the sun. My families theory is this is what the Mayan calender is talking about. The changing of the seasons. Not sure if it will be a movement of seasons. We have had late winters, late to no spring, late summers and late to no fall. The Mayan calendar is most likely telling us, that we start back to zero again.. Just an opinion. May be us loony farmers thinking outloud.. hf Don't think the end of the world, but the end of seasons as we know it..
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@ the moon and the sun. My families theory is this is what the Mayan calender is talking about. The changing of the seasons. Not sure if it will be a movement of seasons. We have had late winters, late to no spring, late summers and late to no fall. The Mayan calendar is most likely telling us, that we start back to zero again.. Just an opinion. May be us loony farmers thinking outloud.. hf Don't think the end of the world, but the end of seasons as we know it..
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Very nice way of putting that M!hf
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So, is it the earth that has changed or the sun? That is what I wonder.
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It all changes, we're in a spiral rotation as we move our system moves in a galactic spiral. Everything is being altered to a very small fraction,which is huge for us(more than huge). In 1963 they discovered cosmic microwave radiation,this gave us a cosmic history.The anthropic principle, which asserts that the universe or god held a special place in their hearts for us and arranged an almost perfect living plane.This goes against the copernican principle that we 're nothing special and everything is random. Physicist Brandon Carter said " Although our situation is not necessarily central,we're definitely priviledged." There are three scenarios in the anthropic principle that seemingly prove we are a race of destiny and not chance. These are an open and closed universe and push and pull. If the helium to hydrogen ratio had been 0.008 of a differential,no us, and this is one of a million instances of probability transference
It would take days and pages to fully explain this, but times are changing and they are meant to,as we are. We were meant to be here and we will continue to evolve, some just slower than others. Much love and peace to all!
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I had to read wiki to understand the anthropic principle before I understood what you were saying. BINGO and 100% agreed. That was an example that a Christian (not religion here just a point) used to prove there was God/Creator (whatever name you use) to a professor once. The professor couldn't argue it. Life on earth isn't chance, nor is love.
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One more thing.... I can tell you for sue, the earth has tilted big time since last year....why there is not more concern about this has me baffled.

From my vantage point, the sun is rising way far south of east than this time last year....... Unless someone has rotated my cabin while I've been gone lol

This in itself could be part of the cause for the erratic weather systems.
The cause of the tilt on the other hand ,..... Oh that view from space would be awesome .

Some say the earth is expanding... Some say the sun is expanding.
Some say the earth is getting ripped apart,....

The sun and earth are reacting....just as they have reacted before......In a galactic sense, it happens all the time....but in our brains time zone it's never happened........ We are so young..... I'd say we're still embryos.
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Oh! Thank God! Somebody besides myself has noticed that the sun is rising too far south! Dare not mention it on some threads or someone will pounce on you for being crazy!
And, IMHO and my granddaughters, the moon isn't right either!
 Quoting: Earth Cries


I agree, sun is rising farther south and setting too far south (of west) too as far as I'm concerned. I have lived in same house for 11 years and the sun has never come in certain spots and hit these places on the floor before---ever!! Wonder if the sun came up two days early in Greenland again this year and it got hushed up??
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heya guys

Q had this great thread about the sun a while back
Thread: Sun Rising from SSE 154 degree When it Should be SSE between 120 to 130 degrees on compass in winter.
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Hey, Gabe and El Q, what do you guys make of this helicorder reading at the sinkhole this early morning?

[link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu]

Two tremors around 2:00 AM

[link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu]

[link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu]

Whoa! Check this one.

[link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu]

And this one.

[link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu]
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Good morning, F.O.G. hf


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Good Morning FOG,

Thank you SL for posting the news this morning.

Here is the video regarding quake watch that SO refers to in his news this morning.

Stay Safe and Balanced.

Shine Brightly.

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So, is it the earth that has changed or the sun? That is what I wonder.
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It all changes, we're in a spiral rotation as we move our system moves in a galactic spiral. Everything is being altered to a very small fraction,which is huge for us(more than huge). In 1963 they discovered cosmic microwave radiation,this gave us a cosmic history.The anthropic principle, which asserts that the universe or god held a special place in their hearts for us and arranged an almost perfect living plane.This goes against the copernican principle that we 're nothing special and everything is random. Physicist Brandon Carter said " Although our situation is not necessarily central,we're definitely priviledged." There are three scenarios in the anthropic principle that seemingly prove we are a race of destiny and not chance. These are an open and closed universe and push and pull. If the helium to hydrogen ratio had been 0.008 of a differential,no us, and this is one of a million instances of probability transference
It would take days and pages to fully explain this, but times are changing and they are meant to,as we are. We were meant to be here and we will continue to evolve, some just slower than others. Much love and peace to all!
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I had to read wiki to understand the anthropic principle before I understood what you were saying. BINGO and 100% agreed. That was an example that a Christian (not religion here just a point) used to prove there was God/Creator (whatever name you use) to a professor once. The professor couldn't argue it. Life on earth isn't chance, nor is love.
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Exactamundo(as fonzie would say)lol
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[link to www.n3kl.org]

These charts aren't showing it, but theres big energy either incoming, or outgoing as it was strong enough to wake me out of a deep sleep. Maybe geomagnetic,doesn't feel solar,but its nice,for now. I have a 'feeling' we'll see a big pick up in quakes over the next several days,we'll see.
Much love to all and enjoy your day!

Im going do a little research see ya latergoodnews
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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and with that Shad... i will start doing flow forecasts again..

energy flow is currently residing over Japan this morning...
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[link to www.solarham.net]

we've got development going on with 1621,and the southern regions coming out of nowhere and I believe with our theory this is going to continue,its our time soon.I'll be watching these closely


note: solarham has them numbered wrong
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I believe any magnetic convective current
that hits earthside energy phenom is going to develop

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“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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The two regions circled could be ones to watch as 1621 is already developing as we speak!
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[link to www.ips.gov.au]

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Weird weather continues.

Thread: SEVERAL FLOODS AND LANDSLIDES IN UK!!! HOMES LOST AND OTHERS EVACUATED!!! 4 DEATHS!!!
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Monster sinkhole sparks catastrophe worries

Acres of forest swallowed up, while residents fear gas explosion

[link to www.wnd.com]

Wow...first time I've seen one of the larger internet news sites report on the sinkhole.
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Answers into cause of Bayou Corne sinkhole expected this week

[link to www.wafb.com]

Can't wait to see how they spin this.
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Found this cool site on weather extremes.

Extreme & Weird Weather of the World


[link to coolwx.com]
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Found this cool site on weather extremes.

Extreme & Weird Weather of the World


[link to coolwx.com]
 Quoting: Earth Cries


cool site,and its nice to see more places honing in on the sinkhole,about time!
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4.4
DateTime: Sunday November 25 2012, 22:24:09 UTC
Region: Northern Colombia
Depth: 159 km
Source: CSEM-EMSC Feed

4.7
DateTime: Sunday November 25 2012, 22:57:42 UTC
Region: Rondonia, Brazil
Depth: 19.4 km
Source: USGS Feed

4.6
DateTime: Sunday November 25 2012, 22:51:49 UTC
Region: Tarapaca, Chile
Depth: 102 km
Source: CSEM-EMSC Feed

[link to quakes.globalincidentmap.com]
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One more thing.... I can tell you for sue, the earth has tilted big time since last year....why there is not more concern about this has me baffled.

From my vantage point, the sun is rising way far south of east than this time last year....... Unless someone has rotated my cabin while I've been gone lol

This in itself could be part of the cause for the erratic weather systems.
The cause of the tilt on the other hand ,..... Oh that view from space would be awesome .

Some say the earth is expanding... Some say the sun is expanding.
Some say the earth is getting ripped apart,....

The sun and earth are reacting....just as they have reacted before......In a galactic sense, it happens all the time....but in our brains time zone it's never happened........ We are so young..... I'd say we're still embryos.
 Quoting: Gabriel


Oh! Thank God! Somebody besides myself has noticed that the sun is rising too far south! Dare not mention it on some threads or someone will pounce on you for being crazy!
And, IMHO and my granddaughters, the moon isn't right either!
 Quoting: Earth Cries


I agree, sun is rising farther south and setting too far south (of west) too as far as I'm concerned. I have lived in same house for 11 years and the sun has never come in certain spots and hit these places on the floor before---ever!! Wonder if the sun came up two days early in Greenland again this year and it got hushed up??
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heya guys

Q had this great thread about the sun a while back
Thread: Sun Rising from SSE 154 degree When it Should be SSE between 120 to 130 degrees on compass in winter.
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Thanks T, matches my hunch in another comment about degrees of travel.
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2012-11-26 00:17:15.022min ago 9.06 S 108.32 W 10 mb 5.1 CENTRAL EAST PACIFIC RISE

[link to www.emsc-csem.org]
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[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]

Heres an article on cosmic rays and dust,thats right dust, and it may be the missing piece of the puzzle we've been looking for. Ninzrez turned me onto this interstellar traveler and it may be the catalyst that our fluffy, oort cloud and galactic plane allignment use for one heck of a storm. An entire solar system storm.Check this out first , I'll be back with some more info that will tie all this together. This also may be why our sun has been acting soooo off.


note: ONE of the reasons the energy anomalies affecting us right now do not play well together as Gabe has said.




This is a four part series on prophecies. You guys probably know alot of the information contained, but...... in the 3rd video towards the end and for most of the fourth video the talk turns to cosmic dust as a huge catalyst with the interstellar cloud(fluffy), and our galactic allignment. Nin thinks this could be a missing piece of the puzzle and I agree. Very interesting and makes much sense. I would really recommend watching all four as it ties it all together



Heres a good article on our interstellar mediums and their metaphysical and evolutionary characterisics

[link to www.susanrennison.com]

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hi
Hi All!
Felt this and heard rumbling
M3.2 - 22km E of Y, Alaska
[link to earthquake.usgs.gov]
hugs
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[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]

Heres an article on cosmic rays and dust,thats right dust, and it may be the missing piece of the puzzle we've been looking for. Ninzrez turned me onto this interstellar traveler and it may be the catalyst that our fluffy, oort cloud and galactic plane allignment use for one heck of a storm. An entire solar system storm.Check this out first , I'll be back with some more info that will tie all this together. This also may be why our sun has been acting soooo off.


note: ONE of the reasons the energy anomalies affecting us right now do not play well together as Gabe has said.




This is a four part series on prophecies. You guys probably know alot of the information contained, but...... in the 3rd video towards the end and for most of the fourth video the talk turns to cosmic dust as a huge catalyst with the interstellar cloud(fluffy), and our galactic allignment. Nin thinks this could be a missing piece of the puzzle and I agree. Very interesting and makes much sense. I would really recommend watching all four as it ties it all together



Heres a good article on our interstellar mediums and their metaphysical and evolutionary characterisics

[link to www.susanrennison.com]
 Quoting: shadasonic


Gabe may be able to fill in some gaps or help with this. So much of this is happening that I sometimes have to step back and take it all in. This progression if its going to happen will be quick in the next couple of weeks. Watch the suns pick up,sunspot 1620 was a speck two days ago ,now its getting ready to fire and filaments 50X the size of earth are popping up all over. Some of the old timers in the solar field are quite taken with these developments. Mother earth will also pick up the pace and get ready for some birthing pains. Namaste my friends!
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Another good thread by Luisport
Thread: Powerful super-cells to Texas-Louisiana!!!
There is a poster on that thread and a few threads, Trinitymountain that shares some really good info on the sinkhole. I think he is pretty acurate in saying we are not being told the whole picture.
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