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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1321501 Canada 04/17/2011 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Have a look at the report "Where does the money go.." obviously it goes to buy fresh young senator's a new Porsche. 4.2-Billion dollars & three minister's later.. we know for sure that money travels very fast around Ottawa. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 850602 Canada 04/17/2011 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lol lib turd turbin Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1336768500mil in the f35 from the start and now the libs want to look at another fighter jet? dude you and the libs are failsauce...... 500+mil into the project only to say its too much for us to buy them now? LOL LOL LOL and you want them to take power? wow you are worst than shit that comes outa my ass in the morning. if you were going to buy a car, you buy the first one you saw? OR, would you look at a few options? failsauce?? how old are you? SEE HOW IGNORANT THE CONS ARE??? BLOCK VOTE, KEEP HARPER FROM DERIDING OUR DEMOCRACY!! You already dumped 500+ mil into the project then agian PULL OUTA THE PROJECT LIKE ALWAYS IN THE PAST THE LIB TURDS DO.........you should have been a BJ Harper need to pass the budget for those planes through ELECTED parliament. He entered into the contract BEFORE consulting parliament. Another example of CONSERVATIVE WASTE!!! JUST LIKE THE G20!! Don't FORGET ONTARIO!!! G20! FAKE LAKES! Billions WASTED!!! Beacause Harper is unwilling to work as a minority, here we are in ANOTHER ELECTION CAUSE of the CONS. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 850602 Canada 04/17/2011 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Harper: He who panders to the french "feather heads".. a few of Harper's selected senators are also under investigation, he used those very comfortable seats as hush positions. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1321501Have a look at the report "Where does the money go.." obviously it goes to buy fresh young senator's a new Porsche. 4.2-Billion dollars & three minister's later.. we know for sure that money travels very fast around Ottawa. YES!!! He also promised ALBERT AN ELECTED SENATE!! HE LIED TO YOU TOO ALBERTANS!! WAKE UP! RISE UP!! BLOCK VOTE! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1346087 Canada 04/17/2011 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The F-35 program began with Liberals. The Conservatives are just continuing the program. Regardless of politics, it is the way to go to get the best plane possible. We need planes that are fully interopable with our megasized neighbour and protector. Really, what are the options? Buy Russian? Buy French? Buy Swedish? Might as well buy Chinese and save a few more bucks. If we left it to Liberals, we would run our old F-18s another 20 years and contribute to dead pilots just like the SeaKing helicopter fiasco. Liberals have Canadian serviceman blood on their hands for providing dogshit obsolete equipment to them. looks like they want to do it all over again, this time with fighter jets. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1237823 Canada 04/17/2011 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow...you can't even compare Harper to Bush, Harper led Canada through the worst recession in decades and we emerged leading the G8 in our recovery. And this "contempt" issue you bring up? thats the opposition parties simply OUT VOTING the conservatives...and because we have a minority government they WIN. Quoting: Me 1324910This is a needless, senseless election. Hopefully Canadians will come to their senses and elect a strong conservative MAJORITY government. You sound like a bitter NDP'r or a tree hugging green. The liberals aren't much better, overtax corporations...there goes Jobs. And the fighter jets??? well..we've been flying the F-18's for over 25 years now...and the last time I checked the Russians,the Americans and others are making forays into OUR territory in the Artic. WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO DEFEND OUR LAND. But I guess that doesn't matter to you OP, Lets just roll over and play dead. Moron here is a Stephen Harper Quote. “ My own belief is if we were going to have some sort of big crash or recession, we probably would have had it by now. – Stephen Harper, September 15 2008 If you think Haprer lead us through the recession you are a MORAN. It was years of liberal surplus's that saved our bacon, additonally, he pissed away any surplus we had in 2 years. IT TOOK 15 YEAR TO SAVE THAT!!! Additionally he prorogued parliament 2x, and paid a billion dollars to host the g20, which further stripped us of our civil liberties, and cost toronto businesses hundreds of thousands of dollars. Just so he could look like he can piss with the big boys. STFU asshole. WAKE UP, we're living in a police state. You are fucking dreaming boy. The Prime Ministers running out of the east are ALL fuckin thieves. Doesn't matter if they are liberal commies or conservative fuckheads. The east is the beast. You idiot liberal commies or ndp socialist pukes are morans. Let us start with a real easy on "ADSCAM". Get bent you morans. You are an ignorant POS. Hey, I have an idea, lets vote in another redneck backwater monkey like Diefenbaker! Maybe he can destroy what is left of bombardier, like the CONS did with AVRO. Fuck off shill. Adscam cost less than g20. Harper lied and said he would have an elected senate....nope. He appointed senators. Harper is a reformist bastard, good luck on your own alberta. Hey ignorant liberal wanker go fuck yourself. Socialist scum! Yeah let us vote for some carbon tax scam the libtards are waiting to add into our country. Get bent asswad. Perhaps you want the idiot pornstache NDP to run us into the ground. I don't want just Alberta as a nation, I want to see the entire west of Ontario out of the liberal socialist run shit. We would bury you in your turds. Commie loving Trudeau put the big nail into the coffin for this country. SO LETS KILL IT AND LET THE WEST BECOME FREE. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 850602 Canada 04/17/2011 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The F-35 program began with Liberals. The Conservatives are just continuing the program. Regardless of politics, it is the way to go to get the best plane possible. We need planes that are fully interopable with our megasized neighbour and protector. Really, what are the options? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1346087Buy Russian? Buy French? Buy Swedish? Might as well buy Chinese and save a few more bucks. If we left it to Liberals, we would run our old F-18s another 20 years and contribute to dead pilots just like the SeaKing helicopter fiasco. Liberals have Canadian serviceman blood on their hands for providing dogshit obsolete equipment to them. looks like they want to do it all over again, this time with fighter jets. First you say the "F35 program began with the liberals." THEN you say "If we left it to Liberals, we would run our old F-18s another 20 years and contribute to dead pilots just like the SeaKing helicopter fiasco" WHICH IS IT? YOU SPEAK FROM BOTH SIDES OF YOUR MOUTH SHILL. LIKE A TRUE CON. LIES. PS- I agree we could use new planes to protect our sovernty, NOT TO BOMB OTHER COUNTRIES. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1237823 Canada 04/17/2011 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The F-35 program began with Liberals. The Conservatives are just continuing the program. Regardless of politics, it is the way to go to get the best plane possible. We need planes that are fully interopable with our megasized neighbour and protector. Really, what are the options? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1346087Buy Russian? Buy French? Buy Swedish? Might as well buy Chinese and save a few more bucks. If we left it to Liberals, we would run our old F-18s another 20 years and contribute to dead pilots just like the SeaKing helicopter fiasco. Liberals have Canadian serviceman blood on their hands for providing dogshit obsolete equipment to them. looks like they want to do it all over again, this time with fighter jets. That is 100% true. Harper is just doing what the LIBERAL government at the time agreed to do. It is on record and these liberal jackwads can use google to find the government docs that will show it. Support the troops with new equipment! One day these libtards are going to need these boys and girls to defend them. Harper was the only one with balls to send Quebec troops. The FRENCH HOLD ON THIS COUNTRY NEEDS TO DIE! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 850602 Canada 04/17/2011 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 850602here is a Stephen Harper Quote. “ My own belief is if we were going to have some sort of big crash or recession, we probably would have had it by now. – Stephen Harper, September 15 2008 If you think Haprer lead us through the recession you are a MORAN. It was years of liberal surplus's that saved our bacon, additonally, he pissed away any surplus we had in 2 years. IT TOOK 15 YEAR TO SAVE THAT!!! Additionally he prorogued parliament 2x, and paid a billion dollars to host the g20, which further stripped us of our civil liberties, and cost toronto businesses hundreds of thousands of dollars. Just so he could look like he can piss with the big boys. STFU asshole. WAKE UP, we're living in a police state. You are fucking dreaming boy. The Prime Ministers running out of the east are ALL fuckin thieves. Doesn't matter if they are liberal commies or conservative fuckheads. The east is the beast. You idiot liberal commies or ndp socialist pukes are morans. Let us start with a real easy on "ADSCAM". Get bent you morans. You are an ignorant POS. Hey, I have an idea, lets vote in another redneck backwater monkey like Diefenbaker! Maybe he can destroy what is left of bombardier, like the CONS did with AVRO. Fuck off shill. Adscam cost less than g20. Harper lied and said he would have an elected senate....nope. He appointed senators. Harper is a reformist bastard, good luck on your own alberta. Hey ignorant liberal wanker go fuck yourself. Socialist scum! Yeah let us vote for some carbon tax scam the libtards are waiting to add into our country. Get bent asswad. Perhaps you want the idiot pornstache NDP to run us into the ground. I don't want just Alberta as a nation, I want to see the entire west of Ontario out of the liberal socialist run shit. We would bury you in your turds. Commie loving Trudeau put the big nail into the coffin for this country. SO LETS KILL IT AND LET THE WEST BECOME FREE. Ontario has 2/3 canada's population. Home of big business. How much more capitalist do you want? In fact most of canada see's toronto as american anyways. You hillbillies can have Alberta. BC votes for NDP and Liberal. Quebec is the manufacturing hub of this country. West barely has fresh water. Becareful what you wish for, when you vote for the REFORMER HARPER, you migght just get your wish. SEE PEOPLE HERE IS AN ANTI-CANADIAN WESTERN SEPERATIST VOTING FOR THE REFORMER HARPER. SAVE OUR COUNTRY ALBERTANS! WAKE UP! BLOCK VOTE TO KEEP HARPER FROM HIS MAJORITY, AND DIVIDING THE COUNRTY! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1237823 Canada 04/17/2011 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1237823You are fucking dreaming boy. The Prime Ministers running out of the east are ALL fuckin thieves. Doesn't matter if they are liberal commies or conservative fuckheads. The east is the beast. You idiot liberal commies or ndp socialist pukes are morans. Let us start with a real easy on "ADSCAM". Get bent you morans. You are an ignorant POS. Hey, I have an idea, lets vote in another redneck backwater monkey like Diefenbaker! Maybe he can destroy what is left of bombardier, like the CONS did with AVRO. Fuck off shill. Adscam cost less than g20. Harper lied and said he would have an elected senate....nope. He appointed senators. Harper is a reformist bastard, good luck on your own alberta. Hey ignorant liberal wanker go fuck yourself. Socialist scum! Yeah let us vote for some carbon tax scam the libtards are waiting to add into our country. Get bent asswad. Perhaps you want the idiot pornstache NDP to run us into the ground. I don't want just Alberta as a nation, I want to see the entire west of Ontario out of the liberal socialist run shit. We would bury you in your turds. Commie loving Trudeau put the big nail into the coffin for this country. SO LETS KILL IT AND LET THE WEST BECOME FREE. Ontario has 2/3 canada's population. Home of big business. How much more capitalist do you want? In fact most of canada see's toronto as american anyways. You hillbillies can have Alberta. BC votes for NDP and Liberal. Quebec is the manufacturing hub of this country. West barely has fresh water. Becareful what you wish for, when you vote for the REFORMER HARPER, you migght just get your wish. SEE PEOPLE HERE IS AN ANTI-CANADIAN WESTERN SEPERATIST VOTING FOR THE REFORMER HARPER. SAVE OUR COUNTRY ALBERTANS! WAKE UP! BLOCK VOTE TO KEEP HARPER FROM HIS MAJORITY, AND DIVIDING THE COUNRTY! I sure hope I get what I wish for. A FREE NATION OF THE WEST. LMAO the west barely has fresh water???? WTF ARE YOU RETARDED? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 900066 United States 04/17/2011 04:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Time to Hijack this stupid thread. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1345563FREE QUEBEC! Support the Quebecois people against the oppresive Canadian occupation of their homeland. VOTE BLOC QUEBECOIS! The Fucking Dali Lama supports Quebec Liberation. Freedom Loving People the world over should too! +1 [link to www.flyingbuffaloes7.net] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1295325 Canada 04/17/2011 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Our prime minister was found in contempt of parliament (i.e. blocking parliament's functions). He is the first prime minister to have been found so in the entire commonwealth (U.K. , Australia, India, etc). Quoting: A/C 1344222And guess what? He is still leading in the polls by 10%!!!!!! (Elections are in 2 weeks) We have 2 states that vote for him like drones, despite him screwing them over and over. How sad is Canada???? He dismissed the parliament in lieu of investigations if one of his cabinet minister knew Canada was committing war crimes in Afghanistan. And now this is what Canada is doing..... Being stupid enough to RE-ELECT him!!!!!!!!!!!!! GLP, CANADA NEEDS YOUR HELP. PIN THIS, PLEASE Poll results can (and usually are) fabricated. They are probably thinking about discouraging those who vote not for their candidate to not vote (you know, why vote if opponent wins anyway). But sometimes it backfires at their voters too. So the only thing we can do is to go and vote regardless what they are saying and encourage others to do it to. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 850602 Canada 04/17/2011 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 850602You are an ignorant POS. Hey, I have an idea, lets vote in another redneck backwater monkey like Diefenbaker! Maybe he can destroy what is left of bombardier, like the CONS did with AVRO. Fuck off shill. Adscam cost less than g20. Harper lied and said he would have an elected senate....nope. He appointed senators. Harper is a reformist bastard, good luck on your own alberta. Hey ignorant liberal wanker go fuck yourself. Socialist scum! Yeah let us vote for some carbon tax scam the libtards are waiting to add into our country. Get bent asswad. Perhaps you want the idiot pornstache NDP to run us into the ground. I don't want just Alberta as a nation, I want to see the entire west of Ontario out of the liberal socialist run shit. We would bury you in your turds. Commie loving Trudeau put the big nail into the coffin for this country. SO LETS KILL IT AND LET THE WEST BECOME FREE. Ontario has 2/3 canada's population. Home of big business. How much more capitalist do you want? In fact most of canada see's toronto as american anyways. You hillbillies can have Alberta. BC votes for NDP and Liberal. Quebec is the manufacturing hub of this country. West barely has fresh water. Becareful what you wish for, when you vote for the REFORMER HARPER, you migght just get your wish. SEE PEOPLE HERE IS AN ANTI-CANADIAN WESTERN SEPERATIST VOTING FOR THE REFORMER HARPER. SAVE OUR COUNTRY ALBERTANS! WAKE UP! BLOCK VOTE TO KEEP HARPER FROM HIS MAJORITY, AND DIVIDING THE COUNRTY! I sure hope I get what I wish for. A FREE NATION OF THE WEST. LMAO the west barely has fresh water???? WTF ARE YOU RETARDED? more name calling. THAT IS WHAT CONS RESORT TO! FEAR AND SMEAR CAMPAIGNS. yes drought. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Your fresh water is depleteing. You are destroying whats left with the tar sands tailing ponds. WAKE UP! RISE UP! |
He Might Be Right? User ID: 229501 Canada 04/17/2011 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The whole topic is redundant. No political party is going to do anything to benefit us. If you think otherwise you are a moron. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1344670Humans in power always give in to corruption. We need to face that our politicians do not truly represent us and there is always an agenda. It should not be about picking the lesser evil, what a sad world we live in. We could be so progressive yet we are stuck working within the confines of a discreetly oppressive money grabbing system. Wow! someone who understands... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 850602 Canada 04/17/2011 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The whole topic is redundant. No political party is going to do anything to benefit us. If you think otherwise you are a moron. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1344670Humans in power always give in to corruption. We need to face that our politicians do not truly represent us and there is always an agenda. It should not be about picking the lesser evil, what a sad world we live in. We could be so progressive yet we are stuck working within the confines of a discreetly oppressive money grabbing system. Wow! someone who understands... This for the most part is true. I'm not sure they're all the same though. its who will damage us least. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 850602 Canada 04/17/2011 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL you are an idiot. Funny how you forgot during your threads that name calling from your behalf is AOK???? Idiot libtard or ndptard whichever one you are and you should realize that Western Canada is not just Alberta. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1237823Where? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1346115 Canada 04/17/2011 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Time to Hijack this stupid thread. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1345563FREE QUEBEC! Support the Quebecois people against the oppresive Canadian occupation of their homeland. VOTE BLOC QUEBECOIS! The Fucking Dali Lama supports Quebec Liberation. Freedom Loving People the world over should too! Vive le Québec LIBRE! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1346087 Canada 04/17/2011 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The F-35 program began with Liberals. The Conservatives are just continuing the program. Regardless of politics, it is the way to go to get the best plane possible. We need planes that are fully interopable with our megasized neighbour and protector. Really, what are the options? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1346087Buy Russian? Buy French? Buy Swedish? Might as well buy Chinese and save a few more bucks. If we left it to Liberals, we would run our old F-18s another 20 years and contribute to dead pilots just like the SeaKing helicopter fiasco. Liberals have Canadian serviceman blood on their hands for providing dogshit obsolete equipment to them. looks like they want to do it all over again, this time with fighter jets. First you say the "F35 program began with the liberals." THEN you say "If we left it to Liberals, we would run our old F-18s another 20 years and contribute to dead pilots just like the SeaKing helicopter fiasco" WHICH IS IT? YOU SPEAK FROM BOTH SIDES OF YOUR MOUTH SHILL. LIKE A TRUE CON. LIES. PS- I agree we could use new planes to protect our sovernty, NOT TO BOMB OTHER COUNTRIES. To clarify, the FORMER Liberal government many years ago made the initial 'investment', and rightly so. Giving credit where credit is due they are to be commended for this decision (many moons ago). CURRENT Liberal party is using this issue purely to attack Harper. Yes, sovereignty needs capable air superiority fighters. Also, when referring to "bomb other countries", you fail to note we do have defence agreements that may require us to service ground targets. Agreements such as Nato, Commonwealth, etc. We may have to attack ground targets in countries that never attacked us directly, but attacked a close ally. We (or even the US) doesn't go around randomly and diabolically dropping JDAMs just for fun on crowded cities. Any country "bombed" has it coming. We are "bombing" Libya- is that bad? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 850602 Canada 04/17/2011 05:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The F-35 program began with Liberals. The Conservatives are just continuing the program. Regardless of politics, it is the way to go to get the best plane possible. We need planes that are fully interopable with our megasized neighbour and protector. Really, what are the options? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1346087Buy Russian? Buy French? Buy Swedish? Might as well buy Chinese and save a few more bucks. If we left it to Liberals, we would run our old F-18s another 20 years and contribute to dead pilots just like the SeaKing helicopter fiasco. Liberals have Canadian serviceman blood on their hands for providing dogshit obsolete equipment to them. looks like they want to do it all over again, this time with fighter jets. First you say the "F35 program began with the liberals." THEN you say "If we left it to Liberals, we would run our old F-18s another 20 years and contribute to dead pilots just like the SeaKing helicopter fiasco" WHICH IS IT? YOU SPEAK FROM BOTH SIDES OF YOUR MOUTH SHILL. LIKE A TRUE CON. LIES. PS- I agree we could use new planes to protect our sovernty, NOT TO BOMB OTHER COUNTRIES. To clarify, the FORMER Liberal government many years ago made the initial 'investment', and rightly so. Giving credit where credit is due they are to be commended for this decision (many moons ago). CURRENT Liberal party is using this issue purely to attack Harper. Yes, sovereignty needs capable air superiority fighters. Also, when referring to "bomb other countries", you fail to note we do have defence agreements that may require us to service ground targets. Agreements such as Nato, Commonwealth, etc. We may have to attack ground targets in countries that never attacked us directly, but attacked a close ally. We (or even the US) doesn't go around randomly and diabolically dropping JDAMs just for fun on crowded cities. Any country "bombed" has it coming. We are "bombing" Libya- is that bad? Yes. I agree. Now we are having an intelligent conversation. :) My quote referring to "bomb other countries" was trying to imply we have to continue to use this power responsibly. I side with NATO (even though it is not the same solid post WW2 alliance it once was). So yes, I agree with bombing libya provided it IS to stop a genocide. The problem with the current government is there is NO TRANSPARENCY. As OP posted NEVER has a PM been found in contempt. It is important the public gets truthful information from its officials, surely you counld agree with that. The problem is that the opposition parties aren't being granted access to information that is supposed to be public. Hence the motion of contempt. Attack ads were first started by Conservatives in this country. I don't like them, never have. I think it appeals to the lowest common denominator, and digresses intelligent political platform dabates in to name calling. So yes, I don't agree with attack ads. None are worse than the ones on Igantieff. Why? because he went to school in the US? So did my brother, doesn't make him less "canadian" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1346087 Canada 04/17/2011 05:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The F-35 program began with Liberals. The Conservatives are just continuing the program. Regardless of politics, it is the way to go to get the best plane possible. We need planes that are fully interopable with our megasized neighbour and protector. Really, what are the options? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1346087Buy Russian? Buy French? Buy Swedish? Might as well buy Chinese and save a few more bucks. If we left it to Liberals, we would run our old F-18s another 20 years and contribute to dead pilots just like the SeaKing helicopter fiasco. Liberals have Canadian serviceman blood on their hands for providing dogshit obsolete equipment to them. looks like they want to do it all over again, this time with fighter jets. First you say the "F35 program began with the liberals." THEN you say "If we left it to Liberals, we would run our old F-18s another 20 years and contribute to dead pilots just like the SeaKing helicopter fiasco" WHICH IS IT? YOU SPEAK FROM BOTH SIDES OF YOUR MOUTH SHILL. LIKE A TRUE CON. LIES. PS- I agree we could use new planes to protect our sovernty, NOT TO BOMB OTHER COUNTRIES. To clarify, the FORMER Liberal government many years ago made the initial 'investment', and rightly so. Giving credit where credit is due they are to be commended for this decision (many moons ago). CURRENT Liberal party is using this issue purely to attack Harper. Yes, sovereignty needs capable air superiority fighters. Also, when referring to "bomb other countries", you fail to note we do have defence agreements that may require us to service ground targets. Agreements such as Nato, Commonwealth, etc. We may have to attack ground targets in countries that never attacked us directly, but attacked a close ally. We (or even the US) doesn't go around randomly and diabolically dropping JDAMs just for fun on crowded cities. Any country "bombed" has it coming. We are "bombing" Libya- is that bad? Yes. I agree. Now we are having an intelligent conversation. :) My quote referring to "bomb other countries" was trying to imply we have to continue to use this power responsibly. I side with NATO (even though it is not the same solid post WW2 alliance it once was). So yes, I agree with bombing libya provided it IS to stop a genocide. The problem with the current government is there is NO TRANSPARENCY. As OP posted NEVER has a PM been found in contempt. It is important the public gets truthful information from its officials, surely you counld agree with that. The problem is that the opposition parties aren't being granted access to information that is supposed to be public. Hence the motion of contempt. Attack ads were first started by Conservatives in this country. I don't like them, never have. I think it appeals to the lowest common denominator, and digresses intelligent political platform dabates in to name calling. So yes, I don't agree with attack ads. None are worse than the ones on Igantieff. Why? because he went to school in the US? So did my brother, doesn't make him less "canadian" I don't think Harper's government is trying to be secretive and non-transparent per se- they are trying to keep a handle on staffers and politicians from making stupid mistakes and comments. Liberals have many deep and stinky skeletons in their closets, as does probably most parties. The attack ads are a bit over-the-top, I agree. I think they are trying more to be blunt and direct than anything. Ignatieff didn't just go to school for 4-6 years and come home, he spent damn near his full adult and professional life out of country. He has made comments on TV as the US being "his country". Not really the words of a die hard Canadian patriot, is it? |
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We'B So bad.. User ID: 1321501 Canada 04/17/2011 05:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "We are "bombing" Libya- is that bad?" with or without an official declaration of war.. umm, yea it looks really bad. Not as bad as ICBM contrails off the east coast while Parliament is prorogued, for the Olympics.. good thing we spent billions of dollars in west coast security upgrades. Now we can watch them jack-boot homeless people in real time. |
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Burt Gummer User ID: 1310405 United States 04/17/2011 05:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GLP people mostly come from the same sort of voters that actually help these sons of bitches. They like to 'take the country back' when social people rule and support assholes that seem to show they know how to be greedy and get things done, not knowing what they are getting done is not in the peoples interest. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1068718Yeah, GLPers are generally rightwing and follow the trend of voting ever more extreme rightwing as the standard of living falls. Americans are absolutely retarded about politics. But geez, I thought Harper was gonna be gone. Hey nice!....you used one of the lefty propaganda words....EXTREME. GOOD JOB YOU MINDLESS DRONE! By the way.......70-80% of AMERICA are generally RIGHT-WING....and do NOT like LEFTY MARXISTS and SOCIALISTS. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 850602 Canada 04/17/2011 05:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 850602First you say the "F35 program began with the liberals." THEN you say "If we left it to Liberals, we would run our old F-18s another 20 years and contribute to dead pilots just like the SeaKing helicopter fiasco" WHICH IS IT? YOU SPEAK FROM BOTH SIDES OF YOUR MOUTH SHILL. LIKE A TRUE CON. LIES. PS- I agree we could use new planes to protect our sovernty, NOT TO BOMB OTHER COUNTRIES. To clarify, the FORMER Liberal government many years ago made the initial 'investment', and rightly so. Giving credit where credit is due they are to be commended for this decision (many moons ago). CURRENT Liberal party is using this issue purely to attack Harper. Yes, sovereignty needs capable air superiority fighters. Also, when referring to "bomb other countries", you fail to note we do have defence agreements that may require us to service ground targets. Agreements such as Nato, Commonwealth, etc. We may have to attack ground targets in countries that never attacked us directly, but attacked a close ally. We (or even the US) doesn't go around randomly and diabolically dropping JDAMs just for fun on crowded cities. Any country "bombed" has it coming. We are "bombing" Libya- is that bad? Yes. I agree. Now we are having an intelligent conversation. :) My quote referring to "bomb other countries" was trying to imply we have to continue to use this power responsibly. I side with NATO (even though it is not the same solid post WW2 alliance it once was). So yes, I agree with bombing libya provided it IS to stop a genocide. The problem with the current government is there is NO TRANSPARENCY. As OP posted NEVER has a PM been found in contempt. It is important the public gets truthful information from its officials, surely you counld agree with that. The problem is that the opposition parties aren't being granted access to information that is supposed to be public. Hence the motion of contempt. Attack ads were first started by Conservatives in this country. I don't like them, never have. I think it appeals to the lowest common denominator, and digresses intelligent political platform dabates in to name calling. So yes, I don't agree with attack ads. None are worse than the ones on Igantieff. Why? because he went to school in the US? So did my brother, doesn't make him less "canadian" I don't think Harper's government is trying to be secretive and non-transparent per se- they are trying to keep a handle on staffers and politicians from making stupid mistakes and comments. Liberals have many deep and stinky skeletons in their closets, as does probably most parties. The attack ads are a bit over-the-top, I agree. I think they are trying more to be blunt and direct than anything. Ignatieff didn't just go to school for 4-6 years and come home, he spent damn near his full adult and professional life out of country. He has made comments on TV as the US being "his country". Not really the words of a die hard Canadian patriot, is it? I have to respectfully disagree. I think Harper IS trying to be secretive and non-transparent. Back benchers are elected officials, they should have opinions brought to the table. Additionally, he was found in contempt. AND the opposition who has in the past supported harper can no longer do so. THIS curent liberal party has no record of skeletons. Maybe its time for a change, even if it is a liberal minority? Maybe it will force all parties to work together. I know the word coalition is a dirty word these days, but is is part of our parliamentary process, and completely legal. When Harper scammed the GG (she has publically admitted he manipulated her and lied to her)into prorogueing (THE FIRST TIME), I knew he was de-riding parliamentary due process and which is at the heart of our political democracy. THIS IS BAD. WRT to Ignatieff stating that the US was "his country" you are using the attack ads as a base for your judgements, even though you don't agree with them?? I'm sure those attack ads were taken out of context, as other parties do too. I can dig up lots of comments from stephen harper ranging from calling canada a 3rd world country to publically supporting western separation. These are also not words of a die hard canadian patriot. Which is why we MUST force these bastards to work (more than the 3 months they worked last year) and work together. This will never happen with harper as the pm. Sorry to say it. It is very possible we will be back at the polls in september, or you will see a coalition formed. |