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Righthaven Lawsuit Model Revealed - Could end Copyright Troll Terrorism

 
johngaltfla
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BREAKING NEWS — Righthaven’s operating agreement revealed by Nevada District Court – Does the House of Cards Collapse?

Yesterday, the District of Nevada ordered evidence regarding Righthaven’s ownership of the copyrights it sues on to be unsealed.
Today, Docket # 79, which reveals heretofore unknown information about Righthaven’s business model, was unsealed. As of right now, I don’t believe that any other source has this information. Read the whole thing here.


For those of you lacking fluency in Copyright law, Silvers v. Sony Pictures Entertainment, 402 F.3d 881 (2005), says that you need to assign a specific right under 17 U.S.C. § 106 – and not the bare right to sue – for a copyright assignment to be valid. Other courts, such as Sybersound, have held that you need an exclusive right in order to sue for infringement of your copyright rights.


The document, which Righthaven fought to keep sealed, seems to reveal what many observers suspected all along — that the Righthaven assignments may run afoul of Silvers v. Sony.


As many defendants in Righthaven actions have argued, Righthaven does not truly own the copyrights it sues over. Section 7.2 of the Agreement clearly states that “Righhaven shall have no right or license to Exploit or participate in the receipt of royalties from the Exploitation of the Stephens Media Assigned Copyrights other than the right to proceeds in association with a Recovery.”


<EXCERPT and you have to read the rest!!!!>


[link to randazza.wordpress.com]

and this story too:

[link to www.vegasinc.com]

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Righthaven’s Secret Contract Revealed: Will Its Strategy Collapse?

Angered at Righthaven’s behavior, a Las Vegas federal judge unsealed the company’s heretofore confidential agreement with the Las Vegas Review-Journal late on Friday. The contract reveals that the controversial copyright-enforcement company and LV R-J parent company Stephens Media are splitting their net earnings from suing hundreds of bloggers on a 50-50 basis. It also shows that the LV R-J is still largely in control of Righthaven’s litigation strategy—a fact that could end up being ruinous for Righthaven’s campaign of copyright lawsuits.

The contract shows that it was Stevens Media who had ultimate control of who to sue. A clause of the contract (Section 3.3) allows Stephens Media to call off any lawsuit if a particular target is “a charitable organization, is likely without financial resources, is affiliated with Stephens Media directly or indirectly, [or] is a present or likely future valued business relationship of Stephens Media.” Amazingly, despite Stephens Media’s ability to stop lawsuits, Righthaven went on to sue people in all of those categories with no objection from the newspaper. Righthaven has sued charities, impoverished hobby bloggers, reporters, and the newspaper’s own sources.

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United States Court of Appeals,Ninth Circuit.


SILVERS v. SONY PICTURES ENTERTAINMENT INC

Nancey SILVERS, Plaintiff-Appellee, v. SONY PICTURES ENTERTAINMENT, INC., Defendant-Appellant.

No.&#8194;01-56069.

Argued and Submitted En Banc Oct. 12, 2004. -- March 25, 2005
Before: &#8201;SCHROEDER, Chief Judge, and REINHARDT, RYMER, KLEINFELD, GRABER, WARDLAW, FISHER, GOULD, PAEZ, BERZON, and BEA, Circuit Judges.

Ronald S. Rauchberg, Proskauer Rose LLP, New York, New York, and George P. Schiavelli, Reed Smith Crosby Heafey LLP, Los Angeles, California, Benjamin G. Shatz, Manatt, Phelps & Phillips, LLP, Los Angeles, California, for the defendant-appellant.Steven Glaser, Gelfand Rappaport & Glaser, LLP, Los Angeles, California, for the plaintiff-appellee.Robert H. Rotstein, McDermott, Will & Emery, Los Angeles, California, for the amicus curiae.

[link to caselaw.findlaw.com]

Righthaven sues Democratic Underground website over R-J posting

The Democratic Underground, which operates a big political website from Washington, D.C., is the latest website owner to be sued for copyright infringement after a portion of a Las Vegas Review-Journal story was posted on its website.

The Democratic Underground was hit with a federal lawsuit in Las Vegas on Tuesday by Righthaven LLC, a Las Vegas company that obtains copyrights to Review-Journal stories and then retroactively sues over alleged infringements.

[link to www.lasvegassun.com]
johngaltfla (OP)
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SILVERS v. SONY PICTURES ENTERTAINMENT INC

Nancey SILVERS, Plaintiff-Appellee, v. SONY PICTURES ENTERTAINMENT, INC., Defendant-Appellant.

No.&#8194;01-56069.

Argued and Submitted En Banc Oct. 12, 2004. -- March 25, 2005
Before: &#8201;SCHROEDER, Chief Judge, and REINHARDT, RYMER, KLEINFELD, GRABER, WARDLAW, FISHER, GOULD, PAEZ, BERZON, and BEA, Circuit Judges.

Ronald S. Rauchberg, Proskauer Rose LLP, New York, New York, and George P. Schiavelli, Reed Smith Crosby Heafey LLP, Los Angeles, California, Benjamin G. Shatz, Manatt, Phelps & Phillips, LLP, Los Angeles, California, for the defendant-appellant.Steven Glaser, Gelfand Rappaport & Glaser, LLP, Los Angeles, California, for the plaintiff-appellee.Robert H. Rotstein, McDermott, Will & Emery, Los Angeles, California, for the amicus curiae.

[link to caselaw.findlaw.com]


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IF this holds up as per Silvers v. Sony, every defendant that lost might have the ability to file claims on Righthaven which would be the most awesome development yet.

I hope Stephens and Righthaven have to pay back every dime and 30% on top of that for punitive damages.
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johngaltfla (OP)
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Thought you might like that story Phen. It was what I alluded to last month in our conversation.....

You can assign the rights to a copyright but they didn't assign the intellectual property ownership to Righthaven. They are so screwed because lawyer's like Drudge's and others may open a harassment and fraud case in civil court plus possibly pursue CRIMINAL charges against the assholes.

Everyone enjoy your porkfest. Good news deserves a good porking.

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Thought you might like that story Phen. It was what I alluded to last month in our conversation.....

You can assign the rights to a copyright but they didn't assign the intellectual property ownership to Righthaven. They are so screwed because lawyer's like Drudge's and others may open a harassment and fraud case in civil court plus possibly pursue CRIMINAL charges against the assholes.

Everyone enjoy your porkfest. Good news deserves a good porking.

seal
 Quoting: johngaltfla 1209964

they can try ambulance chasing next
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"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
VIDEO: [link to youtu.be]

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I got the story and links from Slashdot.

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Thought you might like that story Phen. It was what I alluded to last month in our conversation.....

You can assign the rights to a copyright but they didn't assign the intellectual property ownership to Righthaven. They are so screwed because lawyer's like Drudge's and others may open a harassment and fraud case in civil court plus possibly pursue CRIMINAL charges against the assholes.

Everyone enjoy your porkfest. Good news deserves a good porking.

seal
 Quoting: johngaltfla 1209964

they can try ambulance chasing next
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Good luck with that. They are more suited to work for BoA or MERS because they are so incompetent.

Much as I hate to say this though, D.U. could earn a cool $500 K in their counterclaim if this gets in front of a jury.

Federal juries tend to screw over law firms who engage in fraud and misrepresentation, especially law firms who sue cripples.
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Bend over Righthaven you are taking this one dry!
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justice can be sweet
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*Dont fuck with me; ill jump on my menstrual cycle & run your ass over ;)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Every closed eye is not sleeping, and every open eye is not seeing
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The universe responds NOT to what you want.....it responds to what you are being.......are you being what you want?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
the karma cafe has no menus. you get served what you deserve
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Visit The Official GLP Store
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FREEDOM OF SPEECH:
Alan Isaacman
The People Vs Larry Flynt
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
VIDEO: [link to youtu.be]

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Bloggers vs. Righthaven
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Every closed eye is not sleeping, and every open eye is not seeing
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The universe responds NOT to what you want.....it responds to what you are being.......are you being what you want?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
the karma cafe has no menus. you get served what you deserve
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Visit The Official GLP Store
[link to www.cafepress.com]

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Subscribe to TheRawFeedLive On YouTube
[link to youtube.com]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Become a member & subscribe to the GLPVC Podcast
[link to members.therawfeedlive.com]

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FREEDOM OF SPEECH:
Alan Isaacman
The People Vs Larry Flynt
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
VIDEO: [link to youtu.be]

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Not just Righthaven on the rope here. Any attorney or firm that represented Righthaven would have known (or at least should have reasonably known) of the Sony case. The attorney would have had actual(or constructive) knowledge of the fact that Righthaven did not hold authority over the coptrights in question; similarly they would have known that Sony was adverse to their client's position. There's a lot of people that should be visiting their local ethics boards at the very least; depending on the circumstances of the previous cases there's a good chance that the conduct may not only have been ethical impermissable, but criminal as well. Then let's not forget the judges and clerks that also should have not only known about Sony but should have ensured that Righthaven met the proper statutory requirements to sue. Either Righthaven and their attorneys blatantly lied to the courts or the courts blatantly ignored the law. Even Stephens Media will likely get drug into this as they - at the very least - acquiesced to Righthaven's conduct, with the actual knowledge that Righthaven had no right or authority to sue under the copyrights in question.
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"Barack Obama, Michelle Obama and Steve Gibson. The latter's Righthaven firm has launched a legal war on websites over alleged copyright infringement."

"All three worked for Chicago Law firm Sidley Austin LLP, where Gibson and Michelle Obama coincidentally specialized in copyright-related "intellectual property" law for the firm."
[link to www.dailypaul.com]

**Read more here** Would this be corruption on their behalf?

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 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Hey, Righthaven, to the theme of -
"Amazing Grase"-
Fuck you, fuck you, fuck u, fuck you, fuck you..
Fuck you, fuck you and FUCK YOOOOUU;
Fuck you, fuck you fuck you and fuck you.
Everybody DANCE.
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Excellent. There's No Biz like Show Biz.

Thanks OP.
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"Barack Obama, Michelle Obama and Steve Gibson. The latter's Righthaven firm has launched a legal war on websites over alleged copyright infringement."

"All three worked for Chicago Law firm Sidley Austin LLP, where Gibson and Michelle Obama coincidentally specialized in copyright-related "intellectual property" law for the firm."
[link to www.dailypaul.com]

**Read more here** Would this be corruption on their behalf?

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 Quoting: Athena Awakened


Well of course.
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GOOD!
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I'm no lawyer and if i was I'd do the right thing for humanity and shoot myself, but it seems to me this whole issue is all about capitalism gone off the rails.

Greed.

Calling news stories intellectual properties is asinine.

It seems strange that anyone could even entertain the idea that copying and pasting news stories that have been posted to the internet is theft of intellectual properties. If they didn't want people to share it, they should keep it to themselves.
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"Barack Obama, Michelle Obama and Steve Gibson. The latter's Righthaven firm has launched a legal war on websites over alleged copyright infringement."

"All three worked for Chicago Law firm Sidley Austin LLP, where Gibson and Michelle Obama coincidentally specialized in copyright-related "intellectual property" law for the firm."
[link to www.dailypaul.com]

**Read more here** Would this be corruption on their behalf?

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Righthaven: Obama Ties To Copyright War Deepen
 Quoting: Athena Awakened


bump
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Let's also keep on mind....

RIGHTHAVEN WAS CREATED BY THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO CURTAIL FREE SPEECH


Don't believe it???
READ UP!!!

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"Righthaven’s Gibson From Obama’s Chicago Lawfirm?
Is His Attack On Free Speech Really From The Administration?"


"Guess where Mr and Mrs Obama met….
Following law school, she was an associate at the Chicago office of the law firm Sidley Austin, where she first met her future husband.

>>>> And Guess what Michelle and Steven Gibson both did???

INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY LAW…AT THE SAME LAW FIRM…!!!


At the firm, she worked on marketing and intellectual property."

[link to rolenrock.wordpress.com]


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Finally some good news around here, good work OP!

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"Righthaven’s Gibson From Obama’s Chicago Lawfirm?
Is His Attack On Free Speech Really From The Administration?"

"Guess where Mr and Mrs Obama met….
Following law school, she was an associate at the Chicago office of the law firm Sidley Austin, where she first met her future husband.

>>>> And Guess what Michelle and Steven Gibson both did???

INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY LAW…AT THE SAME LAW FIRM…!!!


At the firm, she worked on marketing and intellectual property."


 Quoting: Burt Gummer



This on the other hand is stretching logic. If anyone is out to curb free speech and basic rights, it's not the democrats lol.

As the previous administration showed.
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Let's also keep on mind....

RIGHTHAVEN WAS CREATED BY THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO CURTAIL FREE SPEECH


Don't believe it???
READ UP!!!

***

"Righthaven’s Gibson From Obama’s Chicago Lawfirm?
Is His Attack On Free Speech Really From The Administration?"


"Guess where Mr and Mrs Obama met….
Following law school, she was an associate at the Chicago office of the law firm Sidley Austin, where she first met her future husband.

>>>> And Guess what Michelle and Steven Gibson both did???

INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY LAW…AT THE SAME LAW FIRM…!!!


At the firm, she worked on marketing and intellectual property."

[link to rolenrock.wordpress.com]

nopledge chavezid


 Quoting: Burt Gummer



This on the other hand is stretching logic.
If anyone is out to curb free speech and basic rights, it's not the democrats lol.

As the previous administration showed.
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


No stretching of LOGIC required.....THE FACTS SHOW THEY WERE TOGETHER AT THE SAME FIRM AND WORKED ON COPYRIGHT LAW.

Righthaven DID NOT EXIST before the Obama administration.


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Not just Righthaven on the rope here. Any attorney or firm that represented Righthaven would have known (or at least should have reasonably known) of the Sony case. The attorney would have had actual(or constructive) knowledge of the fact that Righthaven did not hold authority over the coptrights in question; similarly they would have known that Sony was adverse to their client's position. There's a lot of people that should be visiting their local ethics boards at the very least; depending on the circumstances of the previous cases there's a good chance that the conduct may not only have been ethical impermissable, but criminal as well. Then let's not forget the judges and clerks that also should have not only known about Sony but should have ensured that Righthaven met the proper statutory requirements to sue. Either Righthaven and their attorneys blatantly lied to the courts or the courts blatantly ignored the law. Even Stephens Media will likely get drug into this as they - at the very least - acquiesced to Righthaven's conduct, with the actual knowledge that Righthaven had no right or authority to sue under the copyrights in question.
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If there was corrupt judges than the system is no better than a third world banana republic.
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The really cool thing? By not going to a jury the internet users will still get to seek a true definition of "Fair Use" which scares the dog snot out of the assholes in the MSM and politicians.

It also means those media whores are now going to have to either eradicate their "Twitter" and "Facebook" share buttons or STFU.

If Wronghaven decides to let the counter claim by DU go to a jury they are so FUCKED it is not even funny. Especially since the EFF can FLY Brian Hill from NC to NV as a witness with his evidence to exhibit how they selected a cripple to try to seize a personal blog which is all he has beyond a Social Security check.

Oh is this going to be fun to watch. And if anyone thinks the NY Times and LA Times are not pissed at the RINOS at Stephens Media, think again. This really limits their ability to initiate legal action also WHEN DU whens sanctions against Righthaven.

Watch and see.

1st Amendment nutkick Righthaven
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"Righthaven’s Gibson From Obama’s Chicago Lawfirm?
Is His Attack On Free Speech Really From The Administration?"

"Guess where Mr and Mrs Obama met….
Following law school, she was an associate at the Chicago office of the law firm Sidley Austin, where she first met her future husband.

>>>> And Guess what Michelle and Steven Gibson both did???

INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY LAW…AT THE SAME LAW FIRM…!!!


At the firm, she worked on marketing and intellectual property."


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This on the other hand is stretching logic. If anyone is out to curb free speech and basic rights, it's not the democrats lol.

As the previous administration showed.
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lmao
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The really cool thing? By not going to a jury the internet users will still get to seek a true definition of "Fair Use" which scares the dog snot out of the assholes in the MSM and politicians.

It also means those media whores are now going to have to either eradicate their "Twitter" and "Facebook" share buttons or STFU.

If Wronghaven decides to let the counter claim by DU go to a jury they are so FUCKED it is not even funny. Especially since the EFF can FLY Brian Hill from NC to NV as a witness with his evidence to exhibit how they selected a cripple to try to seize a personal blog which is all he has beyond a Social Security check.

Oh is this going to be fun to watch. And if anyone thinks the NY Times and LA Times are not pissed at the RINOS at Stephens Media, think again. This really limits their ability to initiate legal action also WHEN DU whens sanctions against Righthaven.

Watch and see.

1st Amendment nutkick Righthaven
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I'm enjoying some Captain Morgans tonight as I get ready to publish my new story on Paul Ryan's Big Lie.

I nailed the bitch and y'all will enjoy it, trust me.
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Not just Righthaven on the rope here. Any attorney or firm that represented Righthaven would have known (or at least should have reasonably known) of the Sony case. The attorney would have had actual(or constructive) knowledge of the fact that Righthaven did not hold authority over the coptrights in question; similarly they would have known that Sony was adverse to their client's position. There's a lot of people that should be visiting their local ethics boards at the very least; depending on the circumstances of the previous cases there's a good chance that the conduct may not only have been ethical impermissable, but criminal as well. Then let's not forget the judges and clerks that also should have not only known about Sony but should have ensured that Righthaven met the proper statutory requirements to sue. Either Righthaven and their attorneys blatantly lied to the courts or the courts blatantly ignored the law. Even Stephens Media will likely get drug into this as they - at the very least - acquiesced to Righthaven's conduct, with the actual knowledge that Righthaven had no right or authority to sue under the copyrights in question.
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This^^^^^

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whens=wins

I'm enjoying some Captain Morgans tonight as I get ready to publish my new story on Paul Ryan's Big Lie.

I nailed the bitch and y'all will enjoy it, trust me.
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OH great....more fiction scribblings from a drunk partisan hack.

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