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I just found out right now the age of sexual consent in vatican city is 12 yrs old! | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1118750 United Kingdom04/19/2011 11:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Vatican State The Vatican does not have its own separate criminal code. Instead, in matters of criminal law, as per Article 3 of the "Law of the Source of Law" (one of the six fundamental laws adopted upon ratification of the Lateran Treaty in 1929) the Vatican State generally uses current Italian national law, as well as regional and municipal laws for Rome, as long as they do not conflict with ecclesiastical law or laws specifically promulgated by Pope for the Vatican.[41] As a result, the age of consent is the same as that of Italy. Before January 1, 2009, the adoption by the Vatican of changes made by Italy in its laws was automatic. After this date, the Vatican adoption of changes in Italian law is no longer automatic but comes into effect only after a review.[42] However, as Italy adopted its present age of consent before January 1, 2009, this change in Vatican policy does not affect the age of consent in Vatican City, which remains the same as that of Italy. The claim is sometimes made that "In the Vatican State, there is an equal age of consent set at 12 years of age",[43] but this is incorrect. In 1929, when the Lateran Treaty was signed, the age of consent in Italy was 12,[44], and this was indeed adopted by the Vatican. However, as stated above, the rise in the Italian age of consent applied automatically to the Vatican City. Italy The age of consent in Italy is 14 years, with a close-in-age exception that allows those aged 13 to engage in sexual activity with partners who are less than 3 years older. The age of consent rises to 16 if one of the participants has some kind of influence on the other (e.g. teacher, tutor, adoptive parent).[9] Not knowing the fact that the victim is underage is not a legal defence.[10] It is also illegal to perform sexual acts in the presence of a minor aged less than 14 with the intent of allowing the minor to witness the acts, even if they do not take an active part.[11] |
General Troll, US Shillitary User ID: 1348650 United States04/19/2011 11:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ROAD TRIP!  "What you have just said, is the most insanely idiotic thing I have ever heard. At no point, in your rambling incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul." |
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| nexuseditor User ID: 1342361  Australia04/19/2011 11:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | regardless of the accuracy of OP's post, the Catholic Church, the Vatican AND the Anglican Church - are all state sponsored, tax free, international pedophile networks. there are tens of THOUSANDS of church-related pedophile cases going through the courts right now, in the USA, Italy, Ireland, Holland, Belgium, UK, Spain, Portugal, etc etc. but where do you hear about it on the news? now, if they were muzzies or jooos, it would be headlines - but because it is christians ... who does one get frustrated at the most? the people raising, breeding and controlling the sheeple? or the sheeple for being just sheeple? Last Edited by nexuseditor on 04/19/2011 11:10 PM "The nature of the universe is such that ends can never justify the means. On the contrary, the means always determine the end." (Aldous Huxley) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1118750 United Kingdom04/19/2011 11:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | regardless of the accuracy of OP's post, the Catholic Church, the Vatican AND the Anglican Church - are all state sponsored, tax free, international pedophile networks. Quoting: nexuseditorthere are tens of THOUSANDS of church-related pedophile cases going through the courts right now, in the USA, Italy, Ireland, Holland, Belgium, UK, Spain, Portugal, etc etc. but where do you hear about it on the news? now, if they were muzzies or jooos, it would be headlines - but because it is christians ... who does one get frustrated at the most? the people raising, breeding and controlling the sheeple? or the sheeple for being just sheeple? I still think its best to get our facts right, or were just a bunch of loons spouting shit on the internet. |
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| misterx User ID: 1286998  Korea, Republic of04/20/2011 01:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's why those pervs in Roman collars don't think half of those kids were really molested -- that it wasn't often consensual sex (in their opinion). Med-evil. “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1341642 United States04/20/2011 01:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 12 is a bit young. Once a person has hit puberty though, i say whatever. Im all for the 16 age limit some of the weirdos who say 21 should be the age need to get their head out of the sand 70 y ears ago in this country, you were expected to already have a family before 18. |
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| misterx User ID: 1286998 Korea, Republic of04/20/2011 01:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 12 is a bit young. Once a person has hit puberty though, i say whatever. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1341642Im all for the 16 age limit some of the weirdos who say 21 should be the age need to get their head out of the sand 70 y ears ago in this country, you were expected to already have a family before 18. 16 probably is realistic. In Medieval canon law, 10 was the age of reason. Hence the lower standards of the conservative church legal bodies. I'm surprised it's even 12 come to think of it. “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe |
| Seamus User ID: 1341296 United States04/20/2011 01:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Vatican State Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1118750The Vatican does not have its own separate criminal code. Instead, in matters of criminal law, as per Article 3 of the "Law of the Source of Law" (one of the six fundamental laws adopted upon ratification of the Lateran Treaty in 1929) the Vatican State generally uses current Italian national law, as well as regional and municipal laws for Rome, as long as they do not conflict with ecclesiastical law or laws specifically promulgated by Pope for the Vatican.[41] As a result, the age of consent is the same as that of Italy. Before January 1, 2009, the adoption by the Vatican of changes made by Italy in its laws was automatic. After this date, the Vatican adoption of changes in Italian law is no longer automatic but comes into effect only after a review.[42] However, as Italy adopted its present age of consent before January 1, 2009, [b]this change in Vatican policy does not affect the age of consent in Vatican City, which remains the same as that of Italy. [b]The claim is sometimes made that "In the Vatican State, there is an equal age of consent set at 12 years of age",[43] but this is incorrect. [/b]In 1929, when the Lateran Treaty was signed, the age of consent in Italy was 12,[44], and this was indeed adopted by the Vatican. [b]However, as stated above, the rise in the Italian age of consent applied automatically to the Vatican City. Italy The age of consent in Italy is 14 years, with a close-in-age exception that allows those aged 13 to engage in sexual activity with partners who are less than 3 years older. The age of consent rises to 16 if one of the participants has some kind of influence on the other (e.g. teacher, tutor, adoptive parent).[9] Not knowing the fact that the victim is underage is not a legal defence.[10] It is also illegal to perform sexual acts in the presence of a minor aged less than 14 with the intent of allowing the minor to witness the acts, even if they do not take an active part.[11] Read your source, OP. It states clearly that the age of consent in the Vatican is the same as the age of consent in Italy. What kind of an idiot posts a link to back up his claim and then it turns out his link proves his claim is bullshit?   'When Plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.' Frederic Bastiat, 'The Law' 1850 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "The business of the journalists is to destroy the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of mammon, and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it and I know it, and what folly is this toasting an independent press? We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes." JohnSwinton, 1830-1901, Former chief-of-staff New York Times ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "The bold effort the present bank has made to control the Government, the distress it has wantonly produced ... are but premonitions of the fate that awaits the American People should they be deluded into a perpetuation of this institution (The Bank of the United States), or the establishment of another like it." Andrew Jackson (December 2, 1834) |
| misterx User ID: 1286998 Korea, Republic of04/20/2011 01:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Correction, the age of reason was (still is?) seven or eight: Age of reason (canon law) From Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJump to: navigation, search See also: Age of accountability, Coming of age, Arguments against infant baptism, and Original sin In the Roman Catholic Church, the age of reason, also called the age of discretion, is the age at which children become capable of moral responsibility. On completion of the seventh year a minor is presumed to have the use of reason[1], but mental retardation or insanity could prevent some individuals from ever reaching it. Children under the age of reason and the mentally handicapped are sometimes called "innocents" because of their inability to commit sins: even if their actions are objectively sinful, they sometimes lack capacity for subjective guilt. [link to en.wikipedia.org] That's how these sick bastards think. “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1118750 United Kingdom04/20/2011 01:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Vatican State Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1118750The Vatican does not have its own separate criminal code. Instead, in matters of criminal law, as per Article 3 of the "Law of the Source of Law" (one of the six fundamental laws adopted upon ratification of the Lateran Treaty in 1929) the Vatican State generally uses current Italian national law, as well as regional and municipal laws for Rome, as long as they do not conflict with ecclesiastical law or laws specifically promulgated by Pope for the Vatican.[41] As a result, the age of consent is the same as that of Italy. Before January 1, 2009, the adoption by the Vatican of changes made by Italy in its laws was automatic. After this date, the Vatican adoption of changes in Italian law is no longer automatic but comes into effect only after a review.[42] However, as Italy adopted its present age of consent before January 1, 2009, [b]this change in Vatican policy does not affect the age of consent in Vatican City, which remains the same as that of Italy. [b]The claim is sometimes made that "In the Vatican State, there is an equal age of consent set at 12 years of age",[43] but this is incorrect. [/b]In 1929, when the Lateran Treaty was signed, the age of consent in Italy was 12,[44], and this was indeed adopted by the Vatican. [b]However, as stated above, the rise in the Italian age of consent applied automatically to the Vatican City. Italy The age of consent in Italy is 14 years, with a close-in-age exception that allows those aged 13 to engage in sexual activity with partners who are less than 3 years older. The age of consent rises to 16 if one of the participants has some kind of influence on the other (e.g. teacher, tutor, adoptive parent).[9] Not knowing the fact that the victim is underage is not a legal defence.[10] It is also illegal to perform sexual acts in the presence of a minor aged less than 14 with the intent of allowing the minor to witness the acts, even if they do not take an active part.[11] Read your source, OP. It states clearly that the age of consent in the Vatican is the same as the age of consent in Italy. What kind of an idiot posts a link to back up his claim and then it turns out his link proves his claim is bullshit? You're not making sense, can you try again. |
| Seamus User ID: 1341296 United States04/20/2011 01:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Vatican State Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1118750The Vatican does not have its own separate criminal code. Instead, in matters of criminal law, as per Article 3 of the "Law of the Source of Law" (one of the six fundamental laws adopted upon ratification of the Lateran Treaty in 1929) the Vatican State generally uses current Italian national law, as well as regional and municipal laws for Rome, as long as they do not conflict with ecclesiastical law or laws specifically promulgated by Pope for the Vatican.[41] As a result, the age of consent is the same as that of Italy. Before January 1, 2009, the adoption by the Vatican of changes made by Italy in its laws was automatic. After this date, the Vatican adoption of changes in Italian law is no longer automatic but comes into effect only after a review.[42] However, as Italy adopted its present age of consent before January 1, 2009, [b]this change in Vatican policy does not affect the age of consent in Vatican City, which remains the same as that of Italy. [b]The claim is sometimes made that "In the Vatican State, there is an equal age of consent set at 12 years of age",[43] but this is incorrect. [/b]In 1929, when the Lateran Treaty was signed, the age of consent in Italy was 12,[44], and this was indeed adopted by the Vatican. [b]However, as stated above, the rise in the Italian age of consent applied automatically to the Vatican City. Italy The age of consent in Italy is 14 years, with a close-in-age exception that allows those aged 13 to engage in sexual activity with partners who are less than 3 years older. The age of consent rises to 16 if one of the participants has some kind of influence on the other (e.g. teacher, tutor, adoptive parent).[9] Not knowing the fact that the victim is underage is not a legal defence.[10] It is also illegal to perform sexual acts in the presence of a minor aged less than 14 with the intent of allowing the minor to witness the acts, even if they do not take an active part.[11] Read your source, OP. It states clearly that the age of consent in the Vatican is the same as the age of consent in Italy. What kind of an idiot posts a link to back up his claim and then it turns out his link proves his claim is bullshit? You're not making sense, can you try again. Try this: The age of consent in the vatican is identical to that of italy... 14. At least, according to the source provided by the OP. Read this portion of OP's 'proof' that the age of consent is 12 and then tell me what it really is: ..... as Italy adopted its present age of consent before January 1, 2009, this change in Vatican policy does not affect the age of consent in Vatican City, which remains the same as that of Italy. The claim is sometimes made that "In the Vatican State, there is an equal age of consent set at 12 years of age",[43] but this is incorrect. In 1929, when the Lateran Treaty was signed, the age of consent in Italy was 12,[44], and this was indeed adopted by the Vatican. However, as stated above, the rise in the Italian age of consent applied automatically to the Vatican City. Last Edited by Seamus on 04/20/2011 01:52 AM 'When Plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.' Frederic Bastiat, 'The Law' 1850 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "The business of the journalists is to destroy the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of mammon, and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it and I know it, and what folly is this toasting an independent press? We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes." JohnSwinton, 1830-1901, Former chief-of-staff New York Times ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "The bold effort the present bank has made to control the Government, the distress it has wantonly produced ... are but premonitions of the fate that awaits the American People should they be deluded into a perpetuation of this institution (The Bank of the United States), or the establishment of another like it." Andrew Jackson (December 2, 1834) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1345129 United States04/20/2011 01:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and that's just for boys,girls have to be 18..... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1346233and that's just for boys,girls have to be 18..... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1346233and that's just for boys,girls have to be 18..... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1307617I think the NSA bot broke. |
| ash ye ash ye User ID: 1349174 United States04/20/2011 01:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 12 is a bit young. Once a person has hit puberty though, i say whatever. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1341642Im all for the 16 age limit some of the weirdos who say 21 should be the age need to get their head out of the sand 70 y ears ago in this country, you were expected to already have a family before 18. yeah ! |
| misterx User ID: 1286998 Korea, Republic of04/20/2011 01:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, if Berlusconi was banging underage girls, they had to be like 13 or younger. Man. I'm part paisan, but that is frickin' barabaric. Stay classy Italy. “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 642285 United States04/20/2011 01:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course it is. They don't want to be paying off lawsuits later to the families of the kids they've seduced. A 12 year old with no hair on his body and smooth skin and a nice round ass can go far at the vatican. The question is which of the old perverts can get it up long enough to deflower his virgin ass? Or do they have their younger assistants do the deed while they watch and masturbate their flaccid organs? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1118750 United Kingdom04/20/2011 01:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Vatican State Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1118750The Vatican does not have its own separate criminal code. Instead, in matters of criminal law, as per Article 3 of the "Law of the Source of Law" (one of the six fundamental laws adopted upon ratification of the Lateran Treaty in 1929) the Vatican State generally uses current Italian national law, as well as regional and municipal laws for Rome, as long as they do not conflict with ecclesiastical law or laws specifically promulgated by Pope for the Vatican.[41] As a result, the age of consent is the same as that of Italy. Before January 1, 2009, the adoption by the Vatican of changes made by Italy in its laws was automatic. After this date, the Vatican adoption of changes in Italian law is no longer automatic but comes into effect only after a review.[42] However, as Italy adopted its present age of consent before January 1, 2009, [b]this change in Vatican policy does not affect the age of consent in Vatican City, which remains the same as that of Italy. [b]The claim is sometimes made that "In the Vatican State, there is an equal age of consent set at 12 years of age",[43] but this is incorrect. [/b]In 1929, when the Lateran Treaty was signed, the age of consent in Italy was 12,[44], and this was indeed adopted by the Vatican. [b]However, as stated above, the rise in the Italian age of consent applied automatically to the Vatican City. Italy The age of consent in Italy is 14 years, with a close-in-age exception that allows those aged 13 to engage in sexual activity with partners who are less than 3 years older. The age of consent rises to 16 if one of the participants has some kind of influence on the other (e.g. teacher, tutor, adoptive parent).[9] Not knowing the fact that the victim is underage is not a legal defence.[10] It is also illegal to perform sexual acts in the presence of a minor aged less than 14 with the intent of allowing the minor to witness the acts, even if they do not take an active part.[11] Read your source, OP. It states clearly that the age of consent in the Vatican is the same as the age of consent in Italy. What kind of an idiot posts a link to back up his claim and then it turns out his link proves his claim is bullshit? You're not making sense, can you try again. Try this: The age of consent in the vatican is identical to that of italy... 14. At least, according to the source provided by the OP. Read this portion of OP's 'proof' that the age of consent is 12 and then tell me what it really is: <snip> But it wasn't provided by the OP, it was provided by me, hence the confusion. OP had nothing but a bullshit claim. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1283030  Netherlands04/20/2011 02:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OMG. What a bunch of sick perverts! 16 should be the minimum age, which it is in most US states! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 647204LOL, why do you think that is? if it's 16 and up, there almost altar men, and not altar boys! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1349098 Canada04/20/2011 02:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 12 is a bit young. Once a person has hit puberty though, i say whatever. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1341642Im all for the 16 age limit some of the weirdos who say 21 should be the age need to get their head out of the sand 70 y ears ago in this country, you were expected to already have a family before 18. seven? |
