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bible verse help: whats the verse that goes something like "by the spirit learn what no man can teach you"

 
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Re: bible verse help: whats the verse that goes something like "by the spirit learn what no man can teach you"
15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?

16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

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1 CORINTHIANS 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

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Re: bible verse help: whats the verse that goes something like "by the spirit learn what no man can teach you"
There is no verse found as you quoted but I found this:

John 16:13
But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.

*Ecclesiastes 8:7
Since no man knows the future, who can tell him what is to come?
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Ecclesiastes 8:17 NIV
then I saw all that God has done. No one can comprehend what goes on under the sun. Despite all his efforts to search it out, man cannot discover its meaning. Even if a wise man claims he knows, he cannot really comprehend it.
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Ecclesiastes 9:1 NIV
[A Common Destiny for All] So I reflected on all this and concluded that the righteous and the wise and what they do are in God's hands, but no man knows whether love or hate awaits him.

Ecclesiastes 9:12 NIV
Moreover, no man knows when his hour will come: As fish are caught in a cruel net, or birds are taken in a snare, so men are trapped by evil times that fall unexpectedly upon them.

1 Corinthians 2:11 NIV
For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.
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Re: bible verse help: whats the verse that goes something like "by the spirit learn what no man can teach you"
1 John 2:27

But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.


King James Version


Interesting how different people see things isn't it?


You've evidently remembered something from the New Living version.


1 John 2:27
But you have received the Holy Spirit, and he lives within you, so you don't need anyone to teach you what is true. For the Spirit teaches you everything you need to know, and what he teaches is true--it is not a lie. So just as he has taught you, remain in fellowship with Christ.


I'd say personally to not read a Bible version that is only 4 years old.
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1 CORINTHIANS 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

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yes and that is NOT the "Holy spirit" either, it's your FAther Fragment, a piece of the FAther's mind that indwells YOUR mind and most people IGNORE completely. Every avatar that has come has taught this and man still doesn't get it. the FATHER IS WITHIN YOU and communicates from his mind to your mind.
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1 John 2:27

But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.


King James Version


Interesting how different people see things isn't it?


You've evidently remembered something from the New Living version.


1 John 2:27
But you have received the Holy Spirit, and he lives within you, so you don't need anyone to teach you what is true. For the Spirit teaches you everything you need to know, and what he teaches is true--it is not a lie. So just as he has taught you, remain in fellowship with Christ.


I'd say personally to not read a Bible version that is only 4 years old.
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First I would say that all bibles have been corrupted both by poor translations and concepts of God plus deliberately corrupted. Those of you chasing Israel are doing so because the Khazar Zionists corrupted the bible. I suggest your consider the Urantia Book. God promised new teaching in the End times. There is a list of new teaching in my signature file.

Second, if your were born with a NORMAL mind and are a New soul, when you made your first moral choice, a Fragment of the Father came to indwell your mind. It is not called the Holy spirit. Although it is most HOLY. See my last post. On earth that is around age 5 on average. The "holy spirit" is MOTHER GOD. And what was bestowed on Earth around Pentecost was the SPIRIT OF TRUTH which is not the same as your Father Fragment. The Spirit of Truth term IS in the KJV and I have no idea if the other really bad versions since then, have preserved that or not. the Spirit of Truth most simply understood is a library of advanced information installed in GAIA's Mind that contains great truths, and also advanced concepts of technologies etc. It must be accessed by those knowing how to do so, by meditation.

Your FATHER FRAGMENT (called the Thought adjuster in the urantia book, I do not like that term personally), is a portion of FAther's mind that lives in your mind. It can teach you all you need to know, but most people don't have a clue how to listen to it. Christ was Michael of Nebadon, the Creator Son of our LOCAL universe. You should indeed also stay close to him. Since he is God of Nebadon, any word you use to mean GOD is fine. You need never have ever heard the name Jesus.

The Father Fragment indwells ALL normal minds on earth, not just christian babies dear ones. ALL, no matter what religion, or not religion or atheist or agnostic, it does not matter. That is the BIGGY failing of Stuck up Christians.

You cannnot get the Father Fragment thru baptism. You have no choice in the matter when it comes. There is NO ritual. It comes automatically to you at the right time for you. Some never get one, their mind is not normal and their behavior terrible. Others get one and loose it for their choices, it leaves them. IT IS YOUR SALVATION. You do not get the opportunity for eternal life any other way. All these silly rituals have nothing to do with it.

Now a whole lot of folks on earth are advancing beings and got their Father Fragement many lifetimes ago, they do not need 'saving". it is wrong to keep pushing that on them. It is wrong to say people have to know Jesus. There are people born here who get a Father Fragment who never heard of Jesus, and Jesus was not his name anyway. NEVER. Paul made that.

Eskimos get one, tribal people living in the amazon rain forests get them. I got mine a million years or so ago. So please don't try to keep saving me and other like me. This thing that the evangelicals in particular, and Baptists also, saying you have to accept Jesus as your savior is nothing but propaganda.

What is going on, is that many on earth are the fallen angels and galactic thugs. They are the ones that are doing penance here and if they want to return to their higher estates, since they are the creations of Michael of Nebadon, then they have to choose to return to his realms. They have been given a lot of time to reincarnate here many times to LEARN that the ideas of Lucifer cannot work. That is why they are here, to understand that.

Lucifer wanted his own heaven. He wanted to be a Creator Son. And no matter how hard he tried, he could NOT ensoul a single being on this earth, because he was not created a creator in the first place. That is WHY we have so much re incarnation here, because he could NOT ensoul new souls. Thus he and others created living ROBOTS. And we have a world of them right now. But they are no ensouled by GOD. Lucifer wanted to be a God, and he could never be one, it was a painful lesson for him. So painful rather than choosing life again, as he was created, he chose uncreation. so stuck up because he could not become a creator being, he could not ensoul life. So be it. That is the story.

And many of you who are fallen followed him and have hopefully learned a serious lesson. When you have cleared your karma, you can return to your former estate. THAT IS BEHIND THE TEACHING OF ACCEPTING MIchael of Nebadon. As your CREATOR, not your savior. There is a huge difference.

YOu have been given a long time to make that choice. Some of you are being given some more opportunity, if you have satsified 51% at least of our karma to continue with earth for a bit more, so that you can return to your former estate. There were 10 billion fallen angels and a bunch other galactic thugs placed here to learn the WHY's and HOW's of your ideas that did not work. So be it.

New souls and the ones incarnate form higher realms trying to lift this place up, DO NOT NEED TO GO AND GET BAPTIZED AND ACCEPT JESUS AS OUR SAVIORS. AND NEIther does anyone else on this planet. Complete atheists get saved, if they are decent folks. Because they have normal minds and make moral choices.

All of you, even those of you truly "new souls" will have incarnations at various times in your ascending journey when you are not in residence on the architectural worlds, to gain experience, or bring teaching and assistance to some world in need of it. Heaven is not a fluffy place up in the clouds somewhere. IT IS REAL WORLDS OF HIGHER VIBRATION than Earth, Worlds CUSTOM built, not evolutionary like this one. You advance from one world to the next, gaining experience, until eventually you arrive in Havona, the Central Universe. And guess what, there are 1 billion worlds you will journey on there in your search for the Father.

The Fathers Will is for you to become like him, unless your are a creation of Michael of Nebadon and doing your penance here. but even then, he is so merciful that if you don't want to return to your former estate, you can take the ascending journey of human. But because many of you were created differently, many of you have little success at that. If you are an angel, you are not Father Indwelled, you are Michael indwelled. And most of you will return once you give it up, to your former estate. If you are one of those that entered into the Lucifer Rebellion.

If you are one of the other types of galactic thugs, if you didn't cut the mustard here, you are moving someplace else, as this planet is moving UP, and you cannot live here in the higher energies, because like attracts like. Ponder that.

There are many younger souls here now, since Lucifer was deposed, and many of them are not ready to stay with earth. they will go likely to the mansion worlds, or await a future general resurrection. Some of you are here from various heaven worlds and simply in study, or teaching and some of you also get to return to those architectural worlds, and usually have moved up from your previous one to a higher one. There are many sorts of "souls" here and many outcomes possible. that is simply how it is.

we are the end of an age, and its judgement time. GAIA has climbed a ladder of her own, and is making HER OWN ASCENSION. Some will continue with her, some will not. Some of the worst thugs here will face the universal or superuniversal tribunals. Some of these may indeed choose uncreation, or will spend time on a special prison world to further assist their growing up.

You do not to to heaven to have barbecues with Jesus for trillions of years. The creation is very old. Those of you on the ascending journey will continue to move up. Some of you are leaving because you have graduated and moving up a grade.

There is so much mercy that even the people who are automatons and do not have Father Fragments will be given additional opportunity to grow, in hopes they can be ensouled by perhaps MIchael of Nebadon. About 10% of the automatons do undergo enough stress to cause them to learn to think and they do receive Father Fragments, the other 90% are going to need special experiences.

And its not even 90%, so many of these ones are used and abused so terribly they become terrible and evil and are uncreated within 40 days of their deaths. There is no God within them at all. SAD world is this.

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