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Who in here has an "EMP Proof" Bug Out Vehicle?????

 
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Ummmm, horse?
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1984 international school bus, its a 5 ton truck chassis with a 28 pax. school bus body. Minimal bunks etc. also ford IDI 6.9, all mechanical etc. good for other things too.
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I thought long and hard about buying an old vehicle for this very reason, EMP.

Then I decided not too. Here's why. In the event of an EMP, all cars on the road will stop. All roads and highways will be blocked with millions of vehicles. So your old vehicle might still run, but you won't be going anywhere with it unless you can miraculously fly over the millions of stranded cars.

Now a motorcycle would be a better choice because you can weave in and out of all of the disabled cars.

Food for thought.
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I do, it's a 1992 Ford F-250 with all mechanical injection, nothing electronic makes it run. It's a 5 speed 7.3 diesel. I can start it, take the battery out and it keeps running. Anyone else have anything like this?
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CAn you run it on water?
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what about glow plugs? honest question. i don't know if those rigs have them and i don't know if an emp would fry them. i know "most" of the new diesels don't need them, but it could be an overlooked item. especially in cold climates.
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I thought long and hard about buying an old vehicle for this very reason, EMP.

Then I decided not too. Here's why. In the event of an EMP, all cars on the road will stop. All roads and highways will be blocked with millions of vehicles. So your old vehicle might still run, but you won't be going anywhere with it unless you can miraculously fly over the millions of stranded cars.

Now a motorcycle would be a better choice because you can weave in and out of all of the disabled cars.

Food for thought.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


With the bus you can camp and stop almost anywhere and be much better off. Depending on conditions, alternate routes can be found.
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Here's a problem. If you attempt to bug out and have the only working vehicle, you will probably be shot by a guy who will steal your vehicle, who will be shot by somebody else stealing the vehicle from him, and on and on. Board up the windows and keep your head down for the first few months.
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I concur, Being the only moving object on the road at first is no good! Just consider how people are in traffic now, but in a SHFT the only few operating rigs will be torn to pieces by freaky zombies.
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I thought long and hard about buying an old vehicle for this very reason, EMP.

Then I decided not too. Here's why. In the event of an EMP, all cars on the road will stop. All roads and highways will be blocked with millions of vehicles. So your old vehicle might still run, but you won't be going anywhere with it unless you can miraculously fly over the millions of stranded cars.

Now a motorcycle would be a better choice because you can weave in and out of all of the disabled cars.

Food for thought.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


With the bus you can camp and stop almost anywhere and be much better off. Depending on conditions, alternate routes can be found.
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Where you doing to get all the gas you'll need for that? In the event of something really devastating, there will be no gas either. A bus takes a huge amount of gas, that is if you can even get somewhere with the millions of cars and trucks making all roads impassable.

Really, think about it, I already did. A motorcycle will be the only way you can travel if this ever happens, and even that will be difficult and slow going.
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yeh, it's called "feet".
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1983 Oldsmobile diesel. No essential electronics.
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A lot of these so called EMP proof vehicles are EMP proof... ECU's and distributors will be destroyed




my 1926 model t is 100% emp proof, as well as my vintage and 2 stroke motorcycles
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If it has a condensor, ie:point type ignition, it is NOT EMP proof. The condensors on most vehicles on the island of Oahu burned out due to the nuclear testing at the Bikini atolls. It took weeks to get replacement parts in from the mainland.

Do a little research.
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Got me a 1970 Chevelle sitting in the garage ready to roll..
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I thought long and hard about buying an old vehicle for this very reason, EMP.

Then I decided not too. Here's why. In the event of an EMP, all cars on the road will stop. All roads and highways will be blocked with millions of vehicles. So your old vehicle might still run, but you won't be going anywhere with it unless you can miraculously fly over the millions of stranded cars.

Now a motorcycle would be a better choice because you can weave in and out of all of the disabled cars.

Food for thought.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


With the bus you can camp and stop almost anywhere and be much better off. Depending on conditions, alternate routes can be found.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1309528


Where you doing to get all the gas you'll need for that? In the event of something really devastating, there will be no gas either. A bus takes a huge amount of gas, that is if you can even get somewhere with the millions of cars and trucks making all roads impassable.

Really, think about it, I already did. A motorcycle will be the only way you can travel if this ever happens, and even that will be difficult and slow going.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Hmm - when I was a kid, I watched someone steal a purse in a busy area, only to take off on their "motorcycle". The guy standing next to me grabbed an couple of apples off the fruit stand next to us, within two throws, that man on the motorcycle was down and out.

If I sit and think about a SHTF situation, everyone is stranded and one guy going through on a motorcycle.. hmm. Sure would be easy to take him down, only to then go pick up the bike and continue on.

"Really, think about it, I already did."

Then you go and say something like this.. *Short pause to scratch my head in amazement*

So, you say, but but but... I've got a KX250 and can go through the woods... *nods* ok, but that bike can only hold 3-4 gallons of gas in the tank, go ahead and strap all the cans you can to it, your still only going to get 15 gallons of gas max on that bike.. You are not going very far, even in the woods.. =)

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I thought long and hard about buying an old vehicle for this very reason, EMP.

Then I decided not too. Here's why. In the event of an EMP, all cars on the road will stop. All roads and highways will be blocked with millions of vehicles. So your old vehicle might still run, but you won't be going anywhere with it unless you can miraculously fly over the millions of stranded cars.

Now a motorcycle would be a better choice because you can weave in and out of all of the disabled cars.

Food for thought.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


With the bus you can camp and stop almost anywhere and be much better off. Depending on conditions, alternate routes can be found.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1309528


Where you doing to get all the gas you'll need for that? In the event of something really devastating, there will be no gas either. A bus takes a huge amount of gas, that is if you can even get somewhere with the millions of cars and trucks making all roads impassable.

Really, think about it, I already did. A motorcycle will be the only way you can travel if this ever happens, and even that will be difficult and slow going.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Hmm - when I was a kid, I watched someone steal a purse in a busy area, only to take off on their "motorcycle". The guy standing next to me grabbed an couple of apples off the fruit stand next to us, within two throws, that man on the motorcycle was down and out.

If I sit and think about a SHTF situation, everyone is stranded and one guy going through on a motorcycle.. hmm. Sure would be easy to take him down, only to then go pick up the bike and continue on.

"Really, think about it, I already did."

Then you go and say something like this.. *Short pause to scratch my head in amazement*

So, you say, but but but... I've got a KX250 and can go through the woods... *nods* ok, but that bike can only hold 3-4 gallons of gas in the tank, go ahead and strap all the cans you can to it, your still only going to get 15 gallons of gas max on that bike.. You are not going very far, even in the woods.. =)

"Really, think about it, I already did."
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Sorry friend, I already thought about all of it, and moved up to the mountains 6 months ago.

I won't need to go anywhere when TSHTF. I'm almost completely self sufficient up here.

I posted this info for others to think about because their cars won't work without roads to drive on.
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With the bus you can camp and stop almost anywhere and be much better off. Depending on conditions, alternate routes can be found.
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Where you doing to get all the gas you'll need for that? In the event of something really devastating, there will be no gas either. A bus takes a huge amount of gas, that is if you can even get somewhere with the millions of cars and trucks making all roads impassable.

Really, think about it, I already did. A motorcycle will be the only way you can travel if this ever happens, and even that will be difficult and slow going.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Hmm - when I was a kid, I watched someone steal a purse in a busy area, only to take off on their "motorcycle". The guy standing next to me grabbed an couple of apples off the fruit stand next to us, within two throws, that man on the motorcycle was down and out.

If I sit and think about a SHTF situation, everyone is stranded and one guy going through on a motorcycle.. hmm. Sure would be easy to take him down, only to then go pick up the bike and continue on.

"Really, think about it, I already did."

Then you go and say something like this.. *Short pause to scratch my head in amazement*

So, you say, but but but... I've got a KX250 and can go through the woods... *nods* ok, but that bike can only hold 3-4 gallons of gas in the tank, go ahead and strap all the cans you can to it, your still only going to get 15 gallons of gas max on that bike.. You are not going very far, even in the woods.. =)

"Really, think about it, I already did."
rockon
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Sorry friend, I already thought about all of it, and moved up to the mountains 6 months ago.

I won't need to go anywhere when TSHTF. I'm almost completely self sufficient up here.

I posted this info for others to think about because their cars won't work without roads to drive on.
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Do as I say, not as I do.. /chuckle
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I do, it's a 1992 Ford F-250 with all mechanical injection, nothing electronic makes it run. It's a 5 speed 7.3 diesel. I can start it, take the battery out and it keeps running. Anyone else have anything like this?
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Yep, we just bought the same truck in preparation.
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what about glow plugs? honest question. i don't know if those rigs have them and i don't know if an emp would fry them. i know "most" of the new diesels don't need them, but it could be an overlooked item. especially in cold climates.
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Diesels will still start without glow plugs.
High compression and warm temps are all that's needed.

One would need to find a way to heat the diesel before it hits the combustion chamber......
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I do, it's a 1992 Ford F-250 with all mechanical injection, nothing electronic makes it run. It's a 5 speed 7.3 diesel. I can start it, take the battery out and it keeps running. Anyone else have anything like this?
 Quoting: freedomjesse


a 92 ford anything is not EMP proof

ECU still controls ignition timing
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1292333


ummm, do you know anything about diesel engines? There is no ignition. Mechanical injection, no spark plugs. Do some research.
 Quoting: freedomjesse


fuel pump is electronic, as it does not run off the crank. Oh yeah and if a emp hits your crank sensor will fry and so will the glow plugs ..
 Quoting: Nailer45


An EMP creates a very fast, high energy electronic surge as the magnetic pulse coursed past anything conductive. Depending of the strength of the magnetic wave, some more robust electronic items will survive. Starter motors have very heavy windings, they should be fine. Fuel pumps are not quite as robust, but unless you are right under the EMP burst, it will likely be OK, too. Glowplugs...no worries...they have a heavy heating element. The EMP has to have enough energy to cause the wires making up the windings to heat to the point that they short together or melt apart.

In integrated curcuits, the conductors are so tiny that even a very small increase in current will render them useless.

Oh, and mechanical injection does not neet the crank sensor. The injection is mechanically timed.

I hate crank sensors. They suck. Every PSD owner should carry a spare in the glove box. (I do...and have needed it.)

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Does alternator would be affected by an EMP ?
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But wait, cars are Farraday cages, so every cars should be protected, even car with electronics.
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Remove battery and run a ground wire from engine block into grounding pole hamered about 6 feet into the ground. Should work.
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Frame/hitch/bumper is just as good.
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Does a 1979 Diesel Benz count as EMP proof?
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I do, it's a 1992 Ford F-250 with all mechanical injection, nothing electronic makes it run. It's a 5 speed 7.3 diesel. I can start it, take the battery out and it keeps running. Anyone else have anything like this?
 Quoting: freedomjesse


a 92 ford anything is not EMP proof

ECU still controls ignition timing
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yep anything post 70's will have computer components
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Anyone who thinks they are going to "bug out" of cities after the shit hits the fan will find that it was all fantasy. They will die along with the rest of the city fuckers.
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This is true. The only thing that will we will be able to do is first find cover. Wait it out until the fallout dies down or in case of a comet/star/meteor hitting the earth. Bend over and kiss your ass goodbye.
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Go buy lead foil, wrap all wires, starter, alternator, coil, cap+rotor(if available)PCM, BCM, and whatever electronics are there, only thing that will shield EMP attack on your vehicles that can be easily bought and installed.

Just cause you can start your vehicle doesnt mean the alternator will continue to work, and their are alot more electronic sensors on your vehicle than you may thing.

I've even seen the new dodge cummins diesel have sensor's EMBEDDED IN HEAD GASKET!! good luck with that one lol
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But wait, cars are Farraday cages, so every cars should be protected, even car with electronics.
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BUMP
Im not right ??
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There is a field mod package available.

:doomcruise:
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lmao
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A lot of these so called EMP proof vehicles are EMP proof... ECU's and distributors will be destroyed




my 1926 model t is 100% emp proof, as well as my vintage and 2 stroke motorcycles
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1292333


If it has a condensor, ie:point type ignition, it is NOT EMP proof. The condensors on most vehicles on the island of Oahu burned out due to the nuclear testing at the Bikini atolls. It took weeks to get replacement parts in from the mainland.

Do a little research.
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model t's dont have a condensor lol
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But wait, cars are Farraday cages, so every cars should be protected, even car with electronics.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1011606


BUMP
Im not right ??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1011606


no your not right... farrady cages need to be grounded

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