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Who in here has an "EMP Proof" Bug Out Vehicle?????

 
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why not just grounding the truck by the bumpers and the axels and such? i have a 1997 f350 diesel. itd be a bitch to make one of those cages and it already surrounded by metal. im also thinking about when a car getting struck by lightning. itll still run but no radio or lights and such. also i was thinking even about a house in a lightning storm and all chimneys have lightning rods and are grounded. what about connecting a pole from like a chain link fence and connecting it to your concrete driveway (theres metal rebar throughout that) so the emp would transfered from the car to the ground.
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Me. I've got a 67 Karmann Ghia that averages about 38 mpg.

My lights and am radio won't work though.
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1969 Chevelle Malibu ss, dad left it to me with instructions to never sell it.
Was he on to something??
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You might have a little trouble with gas mileage. Those big blocks tend to be thirsty.
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I do, it's a 1992 Ford F-250 with all mechanical injection, nothing electronic makes it run. It's a 5 speed 7.3 diesel. I can start it, take the battery out and it keeps running. Anyone else have anything like this?
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I believe the glow-plug controller is electronic. So your glow plugs will never turn on unless you rig a manual bypass to control the glow plugs. A direct bypass on-off switch should work, I think.
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duh any vehicle with spark plugs would mean that it is not emp proof
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Wrong.

A car with a points distributor will run just fine. They have to be pre 1972-73 I think... before electronic/CDI ignition.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1287494


If you ID the electronic components, then buy extra electronics parts & store them in a Faraday cage, and know how to install them, then you may be alright, assuming you have time to do the work.

But that means buying things like distributor modules & capacitors, alternator voltage regulator modules, sensors, Electronic Control Modules, etc.
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1983 Oldsmobile Delta 88 Royale...and it's diesel. It gets about 32 mpg and is driven 50 miles everyday (M-F), every week! She is beautiful and no necessary electronics.

We are located close to 2 mining ops so we will have an abundance of DF to filch until we can start our own bio-disel production. :)
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02/07/2013 07:11 AM
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I do, it's a 1992 Ford F-250 with all mechanical injection, nothing electronic makes it run. It's a 5 speed 7.3 diesel. I can start it, take the battery out and it keeps running. Anyone else have anything like this?
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1979 Toyota Landcruiser diesel. Engine and running gear are 1950s tech at best.
What kind of Bikes to get??
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Yup, got three. One is a fast trimaran sailboat, no power needed. Two, a couple of fine bikes. Ultimately, bikes may be your best bet. An average person can cover over 60 miles a day. Do get a trailer for them or good bags though.
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Do you have a suggestions of what kind of motorized bike to get for EMP? Is there a diesel bike??
And where would I get one?

thanks!
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Ah. The guy cruising down the empty highway when everyone else is on foot. Did you paint a bulls-eye on it yet?
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03/17/2015 05:33 AM
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same exact truck... and about to buy a 1993...

$2995

this will be my THIRD in this class. Got one for a BOV

One at the farm, and one to trade for silver and gold AFTER the balloon goes up.
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Dont get a turbo or an automatic e4od
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I believe early Landrovers are quite good for this purpose, I understand the 300TDi engine was kept even when the more powerfull TD5 engine was available as Landrover could not make it resistant an EMP generated by nuclear weapons.

Most people around here have old Landrovers.. so plenty of spares for a post war desolate landscape.. and that is always going to cause issues, getting spares and replacements in such a landscape..
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Dirt bike, kick and go, and fun as all hell to. Commute on a supermoto have one old kick start Harley to if you want to but it!
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I've got a late 90s Subaru that I'm laying up spares in a protected storage area.

So far I've got the ECU, TCU, crankshaft and camshaft postion sensors. What else? I'm thinking maybe the wheel speed sensor but there's probably something else that I'm overlooking.

All of these so far are easy to replace, I could spend a few hours and have it done. Since I don't plan on bugging out in an EMP event it isn't all that critical to have a running vehicle.
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1969 Chevelle Malibu ss, dad left it to me with instructions to never sell it.
Was he on to something??
 Quoting: ~Andariel~


Isn't that two different car models?
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duh any vehicle with spark plugs would mean that it is not emp proof
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1296582


Wrong.

A car with a points distributor will run just fine. They have to be pre 1972-73 I think... before electronic/CDI ignition.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1287494


We finally have a winner here!
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Anyone who thinks they are going to "bug out" of cities after the shit hits the fan will find that it was all fantasy. They will die along with the rest of the city fuckers.
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radiation will kill you all thanks to your government elimination of all civil deffence programs , no shelters
no alternate food production , no nothing ...the elite will have to fuck Columbian wild donkeys to repopulate earth..

remember those Egyptian gods with mule faces that's it!

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Dirt bike, kick and go, and fun as all hell to. Commute on a supermoto have one old kick start Harley to if you want to but it!
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Cdi on the dirt bike will be destroyed by emp.

Harley is an option as long as you have the points parts for it. Even my 1980 FLT has a Hall effect pickup and ignition module.
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03/17/2015 07:49 AM
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I do.

It is called a "mule".

It's slow but gets the job done.
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05/11/2015 07:40 PM
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duh any vehicle with spark plugs would mean that it is not emp proof.

Spark plugs are just spark plugs....they WILL produce spark if the spark generator has no micro-processors and the engine doesn't depend on a computer or some printed circuit boards to run.
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I got horses and bicycles. If there is an EMP, I don't want to go more than twenty miles from my home if I don't have to.
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I've got a late 90s Subaru that I'm laying up spares in a protected storage area.

So far I've got the ECU, TCU, crankshaft and camshaft postion sensors. What else? I'm thinking maybe the wheel speed sensor but there's probably something else that I'm overlooking.

All of these so far are easy to replace, I could spend a few hours and have it done. Since I don't plan on bugging out in an EMP event it isn't all that critical to have a running vehicle.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68466771


Just to update my own post:

Knock sensor
Fuel pump (just in case)
I'm pulling a bunch of black boxes under the dash of my donor vehicle just to be complete - seat belt timer, etc.
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Jeep :) Manual transmission, too.
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It's got a computer, it will be fried, sorry.
 Quoting: freedomjesse


Fry it all you want, can't you just pull the electronics and jump it off the starter?
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I believe early Landrovers are quite good for this purpose, I understand the 300TDi engine was kept even when the more powerfull TD5 engine was available as Landrover could not make it resistant an EMP generated by nuclear weapons.

Most people around here have old Landrovers.. so plenty of spares for a post war desolate landscape.. and that is always going to cause issues, getting spares and replacements in such a landscape..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68567028


Thread: DHS Raiding Owners Of Old Land Rovers and Seizing Them; Update 12-16, video of Mini smashed
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Jeep :) Manual transmission, too.
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It's got a computer, it will be fried, sorry.
 Quoting: freedomjesse


Fry it all you want, can't you just pull the electronics and jump it off the starter?
 Quoting: thisismyusername


Doesn't work that way, my friend. Starter turns the engine, computer gets a couple of hits from the crankshaft and camshaft position sensors to establish timing and then sends the signal to spark.

No computer, no signal. No position sensors, no signal.

Actually, I just remembered the throttle position sensor. Sonofagun, I've got another piece to throw in the box.
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05/11/2015 08:29 PM
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After reading pages and pages of replies, you people have no idea what will be affected with even the most powerful, intentionally destructive EMP device possible.

LENGTH OF WIRES serving as pickup antenna is the most determinate factor providing damaging effects. Extraordinarily close EMP generation devices skittered under a car and detonated will kill a car. A high alititude nuke EMP device, even many of them, will not kill a car.

Nuke EMP surge picked up by LONG, LONG POWER LINES (antenna) will blow up everything on both ends they are connected to.

The book "One Second After" (which I own) is great theater but a scientific extrapolation of the order of magnitude off every scale on planet Earth.
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After reading pages and pages of replies, you people have no idea what will be affected with even the most powerful, intentionally destructive EMP device possible.

LENGTH OF WIRES serving as pickup antenna is the most determinate factor providing damaging effects. Extraordinarily close EMP generation devices skittered under a car and detonated will kill a car. A high alititude nuke EMP device, even many of them, will not kill a car.

Nuke EMP surge picked up by LONG, LONG POWER LINES (antenna) will blow up everything on both ends they are connected to.

The book "One Second After" (which I own) is great theater but a scientific extrapolation of the order of magnitude off every scale on planet Earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69176491


There is testing that supports this, when the US tested the 'simulated' effects against an undisclosed array of vehicles only one had to be towed for repairs.

The conclusion was that only vehicles near long spans of metal - like bridges - were likely to be affected by an EMP effect but still I take the simulation with a grain of salt since I don't know how it compares to a likely actual attack. Better to have a box of spares for my vehicle and never need them.
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Jeep :) Manual transmission, too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 701285


It's got a computer, it will be fried, sorry.
 Quoting: freedomjesse


Fry it all you want, can't you just pull the electronics and jump it off the starter?
 Quoting: thisismyusername


Doesn't work that way, my friend. Starter turns the engine, computer gets a couple of hits from the crankshaft and camshaft position sensors to establish timing and then sends the signal to spark.

No computer, no signal. No position sensors, no signal.

Actually, I just remembered the throttle position sensor. Sonofagun, I've got another piece to throw in the box.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69176582

Works on the lawnmower lol!
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It's got a computer, it will be fried, sorry.
 Quoting: freedomjesse


Fry it all you want, can't you just pull the electronics and jump it off the starter?
 Quoting: thisismyusername


Doesn't work that way, my friend. Starter turns the engine, computer gets a couple of hits from the crankshaft and camshaft position sensors to establish timing and then sends the signal to spark.

No computer, no signal. No position sensors, no signal.

Actually, I just remembered the throttle position sensor. Sonofagun, I've got another piece to throw in the box.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69176582

Works on the lawnmower lol!
 Quoting: thisismyusername


Heheheh, don't think that I haven't amused myself with the idea that I might have the neatest lawn around but not be able to go for a drive. Different tech for different machines.
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Would a 64 nova run?
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