Who in here has an "EMP Proof" Bug Out Vehicle????? | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1350284 United States 04/21/2011 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's a problem. If you attempt to bug out and have the only working vehicle, you will probably be shot by a guy who will steal your vehicle, who will be shot by somebody else stealing the vehicle from him, and on and on. Board up the windows and keep your head down for the first few months. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1268825The latest version of the movie War of the Worlds, which is old now, depicts just such a scene! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 802683 United States 04/21/2011 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1979 Chevy 454 4x4 4-speed, converted to points distributor, which it may have had stock but had been "upgraded" to HEI. I haven't done it yet, but I plan to convert this truck to run on producers-gas, also known as carbon monoxide generated in a wood-burning stove mounted in the bed. It will then run on scrap wood rather than gasoline. |
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306633 User ID: 996806 United States 04/21/2011 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | duh any vehicle with spark plugs would mean that it is not emp proof Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1296582Wrong. A car with a points distributor will run just fine. They have to be pre 1972-73 I think... before electronic/CDI ignition. ^ This is what you probably want to have. Anything newer would have a control module in the distributor for spark control, a circuit board.... Last Edited by 306633 on 04/21/2011 12:36 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1354682 United States 04/24/2011 12:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do, it's a 1992 Ford F-250 with all mechanical injection, nothing electronic makes it run. It's a 5 speed 7.3 diesel. I can start it, take the battery out and it keeps running. Anyone else have anything like this? Quoting: freedomjesseSorry to burst your bubble . 1992 ford has fuel injection . taking out your battery while it runs destroys your alternator quickly.. your computer brain box/ electronic ignition module will fry if a large EMP hits . You need a points ignition system / pre electronic ignition and you would need extra sets of points because they would burn out when the emp hit.. fuel pump is electronic, as it does not run off the crank. Oh yeah and if a emp hits your crank sensor will fry and so will the glow plugs .. Quoting: Nailer45MORON, Your BUS IS LEAVING! The Transfer pump on a 1992 IS a mechanical unit right in the spot where a mechanical fuel pump would be on a GAS BURNER. Crank sensor - Ain't got one. It WILL however knock out the glow plug relay (little barrel shaped thingy at the rear, driver's side of the engine. A momentary switch and 6 feet of wire and you're still in business, just don't hold the switch down more than 10 seconds as the glow plugs are 6 volt units - chosen so they will burn hotter faster than standard 12 volt glow plugs. Any other questions DUFUS! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1354351 United States 04/24/2011 12:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do, it's a 1992 Ford F-250 with all mechanical injection, nothing electronic makes it run. It's a 5 speed 7.3 diesel. I can start it, take the battery out and it keeps running. Anyone else have anything like this? Quoting: freedomjesseSorry to burst your bubble . 1992 ford has fuel injection . taking out your battery while it runs destroys your alternator quickly.. your computer brain box/ electronic ignition module will fry if a large EMP hits . You need a points ignition system / pre electronic ignition and you would need extra sets of points because they would burn out when the emp hit.. fuel pump is electronic, as it does not run off the crank. Oh yeah and if a emp hits your crank sensor will fry and so will the glow plugs .. Quoting: Nailer45MORON, Your BUS IS LEAVING! The Transfer pump on a 1992 IS a mechanical unit right in the spot where a mechanical fuel pump would be on a GAS BURNER. Crank sensor - Ain't got one. It WILL however knock out the glow plug relay (little barrel shaped thingy at the rear, driver's side of the engine. A momentary switch and 6 feet of wire and you're still in business, just don't hold the switch down more than 10 seconds as the glow plugs are 6 volt units - chosen so they will burn hotter faster than standard 12 volt glow plugs. Any other questions DUFUS! STFU ac,,,, you sound like little kid who never owned anything...K...Buh Bye |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1351486 United States 04/24/2011 12:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do, it's a 1992 Ford F-250 with all mechanical injection, nothing electronic makes it run. It's a 5 speed 7.3 diesel. I can start it, take the battery out and it keeps running. Anyone else have anything like this? Quoting: freedomjessea 92 ford anything is not EMP proof ECU still controls ignition timing emp doom , brotha I personally shielded all my electronics on my '97 f250 7.3l Powerstroke HD Offroad 4x4. Just need to slap on a gun mount and I am ready for some emp/zombie doom, or the chinese. -whichever comes first. |
antikythera User ID: 1030102 United States 04/24/2011 12:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Schwinn Ranger. The wolves among you will devour the sheep. :orbsig: :ninjalapirate: Art Homepage, [link to pondcypress.deviantart.com] Hand carved skull and cross available for purchase, [link to www.artfire.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1354682 United States 04/24/2011 12:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A lot of these so called EMP proof vehicles are EMP proof... ECU's and distributors will be destroyed Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1292333my 1926 model t is 100% emp proof, as well as my vintage and 2 stroke motorcycles If it has a condensor, ie:point type ignition, it is NOT EMP proof. The condensors on most vehicles on the island of Oahu burned out due to the nuclear testing at the Bikini atolls. It took weeks to get replacement parts in from the mainland. Do a little research. How's about YOU do a little research - It has a MAGNETO ignition. It would also have a backup generator and battery as all Ford Closed cars had since 1919 and ALL fords had starting in 1926. - There is no condenser in a Model T, I promise. In fact it doesn't even have a distributor - it has a commutator with manual spark advance adjustment. Lots of kids on tonight that have only read about working on cars on the internet in their Mom's basement tonight. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1354682 United States 04/24/2011 12:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do, it's a 1992 Ford F-250 with all mechanical injection, nothing electronic makes it run. It's a 5 speed 7.3 diesel. I can start it, take the battery out and it keeps running. Anyone else have anything like this? Quoting: freedomjesseSorry to burst your bubble . 1992 ford has fuel injection . taking out your battery while it runs destroys your alternator quickly.. your computer brain box/ electronic ignition module will fry if a large EMP hits . You need a points ignition system / pre electronic ignition and you would need extra sets of points because they would burn out when the emp hit.. fuel pump is electronic, as it does not run off the crank. Oh yeah and if a emp hits your crank sensor will fry and so will the glow plugs .. Quoting: Nailer45MORON, Your BUS IS LEAVING! The Transfer pump on a 1992 IS a mechanical unit right in the spot where a mechanical fuel pump would be on a GAS BURNER. Crank sensor - Ain't got one. It WILL however knock out the glow plug relay (little barrel shaped thingy at the rear, driver's side of the engine. A momentary switch and 6 feet of wire and you're still in business, just don't hold the switch down more than 10 seconds as the glow plugs are 6 volt units - chosen so they will burn hotter faster than standard 12 volt glow plugs. Any other questions DUFUS! STFU ac,,,, you sound like little kid who never owned anything...K...Buh Bye Okay, Sparky, Ask away. Anything you'd like to know, I'll answer factually. My Specialties are Ford Diesels (anything before 1995 is EMP proof), Dodge Diesels (Anything before 2003 is EMP proof) , Ford Big Blocks (Anything before 1976 is EMP proof) and anything antique. I have a real fondness for the Detroit 6-71 Diesel and the International Harvester DT-466. Or will you tell me that an EMP will knock out the crank sensor on my Lister Diesel too? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1354682 United States 04/24/2011 01:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not EMP proof...but my klr650 is KLR650 has always had an Electronic Ignition module, Kawasaki Part number 21119, current price about $340. Sorry, man, but you're going to need an extra one in a paint can if you're planning on using the bike after an EMP. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1354351 United States 04/24/2011 01:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Nailer45Sorry to burst your bubble . 1992 ford has fuel injection . taking out your battery while it runs destroys your alternator quickly.. your computer brain box/ electronic ignition module will fry if a large EMP hits . You need a points ignition system / pre electronic ignition and you would need extra sets of points because they would burn out when the emp hit.. fuel pump is electronic, as it does not run off the crank. Oh yeah and if a emp hits your crank sensor will fry and so will the glow plugs .. Quoting: Nailer45MORON, Your BUS IS LEAVING! The Transfer pump on a 1992 IS a mechanical unit right in the spot where a mechanical fuel pump would be on a GAS BURNER. Crank sensor - Ain't got one. It WILL however knock out the glow plug relay (little barrel shaped thingy at the rear, driver's side of the engine. A momentary switch and 6 feet of wire and you're still in business, just don't hold the switch down more than 10 seconds as the glow plugs are 6 volt units - chosen so they will burn hotter faster than standard 12 volt glow plugs. Any other questions DUFUS! STFU ac,,,, you sound like little kid who never owned anything...K...Buh Bye Okay, Sparky, Ask away. Anything you'd like to know, I'll answer factually. My Specialties are Ford Diesels (anything before 1995 is EMP proof), Dodge Diesels (Anything before 2003 is EMP proof) , Ford Big Blocks (Anything before 1976 is EMP proof) and anything antique. I have a real fondness for the Detroit 6-71 Diesel and the International Harvester DT-466. Or will you tell me that an EMP will knock out the crank sensor on my Lister Diesel too? Trying too hard to overcome homosexual tendencies... Just chill and let everyone know you are a homo... The lister diesal was good analogy though..... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1354722 United States 04/24/2011 01:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's a problem. If you attempt to bug out and have the only working vehicle, you will probably be shot by a guy who will steal your vehicle, who will be shot by somebody else stealing the vehicle from him, and on and on. Board up the windows and keep your head down for the first few months. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1268825And you forgot to mention this as well. If the bad guys dont get your truck, whats left of the government or LEO will take it from you! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1354351 United States 04/24/2011 01:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus Christ... just reread this thread,, a whole bunch of metrosexual want to be cocksuckers,, that dont even understand how shit works,,, no wonder America will soon be a third world country... Will you innercity retards just please commit suicide so folks with brains can take over the world??? |
Red Hot Chilean Pepe (nli) User ID: 1354741 Chile 04/24/2011 01:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You thread called my attention as this has been a topic of discussion with a person "in the know" that has been spilling some beans around here. Having a completely elcetronics free vehicle will be the only way to move around without resorting to muscle once the EMP's start happening. Does your vehicle has pre heating plugs? Those should also fail after the EMP. I was instructed to have some essential electric/electronics carefully shielded as a back up measure. Unfortunately, finding a good vehicle for WTSHTF is out of my budget by now, so I'll have to use the bike to get to the safe place. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1354351 United States 04/24/2011 01:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey OP: Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe (nli) 1354741You thread called my attention as this has been a topic of discussion with a person "in the know" that has been spilling some beans around here. Having a completely elcetronics free vehicle will be the only way to move around without resorting to muscle once the EMP's start happening. Does your vehicle has pre heating plugs? Those should also fail after the EMP. I was instructed to have some essential electric/electronics carefully shielded as a back up measure. Unfortunately, finding a good vehicle for WTSHTF is out of my budget by now, so I'll have to use the bike to get to the safe place. Not only ignorant of how shit works but poor too.. Really???? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1351486 United States 04/24/2011 01:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's a problem. If you attempt to bug out and have the only working vehicle, you will probably be shot by a guy who will steal your vehicle, who will be shot by somebody else stealing the vehicle from him, and on and on. Board up the windows and keep your head down for the first few months. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1268825And you forgot to mention this as well. If the bad guys dont get your truck, whats left of the government or LEO will take it from you! yeah were all dead eventually, but going out is going to be one hell of a ride!!!! |
TheRoaminGnome User ID: 1261808 United States 04/24/2011 01:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do, it's a 1992 Ford F-250 with all mechanical injection, nothing electronic makes it run. It's a 5 speed 7.3 diesel. I can start it, take the battery out and it keeps running. Anyone else have anything like this? Quoting: freedomjesseI do. It's a 1977 Chevy Silverado with a standard pre-computer era Quadrajet and a point driven distributor off a '73 chevelle. 38 deg total advance @5800 rpm. Not only will it survive an EMP, it will giddy-up and go. Though no power windows or automatic butt wipers, it does have air conditioning, power steering and power brakes. It looks like a rusty brown turd, which incedently is exactly what I wanted. Got great 10 ply rubber on all fours and liability insurance. This beast has two fuel tanks from the factory. One is like 14 gallons and the other is around 18 gallons. With 323 coggs in the rear, and driving like a white man, she gets 22 mpg. The best part? SHe cost me every bit of 200 bucks, in small bills of course :) *This reply is no threat, nor is it meant to be misunderstood nor construed, twisted, bent or otherwise shaped into something it is not. It is not idle nor deliberate nor meant to be taken in any kind of way that would implicate anything other than thoughts of marshmallow clouds, spring mountains or anything else pleasant, yet not illegal. Also note anything you say or do in reply, whether positive, pissed off, bent out of shape or distressed in any human form (disregarding on record mental illnesses) can be held against you in a court of law. Let it further be known that if someone leaves a response that I find derogatory, I reserve the right to piss and moan, cuss, kick objects that don't breath, (sorry PETA) and throw a general temper tantrum without be held responsible for any actions I may say or act out upon |
Burt Gummer User ID: 1352966 United States 04/24/2011 01:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jeep :) Manual transmission, too. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 701285It's got a computer, it will be fried, sorry. WRONG! Old Jeeps don't have computers...and even the 60-80's electronic ignition / distributors can be converted back to points and condenser setups. EMP proof. Old diesels are the best choice though. Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 04/24/2011 01:53 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1292333 United States 04/24/2011 01:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A lot of these so called EMP proof vehicles are EMP proof... ECU's and distributors will be destroyed Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1292333my 1926 model t is 100% emp proof, as well as my vintage and 2 stroke motorcycles If it has a condensor, ie:point type ignition, it is NOT EMP proof. The condensors on most vehicles on the island of Oahu burned out due to the nuclear testing at the Bikini atolls. It took weeks to get replacement parts in from the mainland. Do a little research. How's about YOU do a little research - It has a MAGNETO ignition. It would also have a backup generator and battery as all Ford Closed cars had since 1919 and ALL fords had starting in 1926. - There is no condenser in a Model T, I promise. In fact it doesn't even have a distributor - it has a commutator with manual spark advance adjustment. Lots of kids on tonight that have only read about working on cars on the internet in their Mom's basement tonight. thanks you beat me to it yes my model t doesn't even have a distributor or alternator... it has a generator and the magnetos are mostly WOOD the model t is probably the least susceptible car to an EMP you can buy |
TheRoaminGnome User ID: 1261808 United States 04/24/2011 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do, it's a 1992 Ford F-250 with all mechanical injection, nothing electronic makes it run. It's a 5 speed 7.3 diesel. I can start it, take the battery out and it keeps running. Anyone else have anything like this? Quoting: freedomjesseSorry to burst your bubble . 1992 ford has fuel injection . taking out your battery while it runs destroys your alternator quickly.. your computer brain box/ electronic ignition module will fry if a large EMP hits . You need a points ignition system / pre electronic ignition and you would need extra sets of points because they would burn out when the emp hit.. Sorry to burst your bubble, but NO, it does not have electrical injection, it's ALL mechanical through an injection pump that is powered by a pulley from the engine. there is NO electronic ignition module in a 7.3 idi. Gotta agree with ya dude. This system is totally mechanical fuel injection. TOTALLY mechanical. It's the same exact concept that was utilized on large deisel engines used in trucks and Catapillar equipment for a great many years. Unless somehow and EMP wave can cause a belt to break, this turd should keep right on keeping on before and after an EMP attack. *This reply is no threat, nor is it meant to be misunderstood nor construed, twisted, bent or otherwise shaped into something it is not. It is not idle nor deliberate nor meant to be taken in any kind of way that would implicate anything other than thoughts of marshmallow clouds, spring mountains or anything else pleasant, yet not illegal. Also note anything you say or do in reply, whether positive, pissed off, bent out of shape or distressed in any human form (disregarding on record mental illnesses) can be held against you in a court of law. Let it further be known that if someone leaves a response that I find derogatory, I reserve the right to piss and moan, cuss, kick objects that don't breath, (sorry PETA) and throw a general temper tantrum without be held responsible for any actions I may say or act out upon |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1354682 United States 04/25/2011 09:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One of the things that bugged me about the "cash for clunkers" program were the large numbers of 1980's cars on it that could be retrofitted away from the ECU if given time. Each of those cars was to have resin poured into the engine block by the trading dealership, rendering it useless, even for parts. Just like most government programs, the money comes at too high a price for me. |
freedomjesse (OP) User ID: 1020776 United States 04/25/2011 10:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do, it's a 1992 Ford F-250 with all mechanical injection, nothing electronic makes it run. It's a 5 speed 7.3 diesel. I can start it, take the battery out and it keeps running. Anyone else have anything like this? Quoting: freedomjessea 92 ford anything is not EMP proof ECU still controls ignition timing emp doom , brotha I personally shielded all my electronics on my '97 f250 7.3l Powerstroke HD Offroad 4x4. Just need to slap on a gun mount and I am ready for some emp/zombie doom, or the chinese. -whichever comes first. How did you overcome the electronic injection pump? |
who really cares User ID: 33857995 United States 02/07/2013 03:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | why not just grounding the truck by the bumpers and the axels and such? i have a 1997 f350 diesel. itd be a bitch to make one of those cages and it already surrounded by metal. im also thinking about when a car getting struck by lightning. itll still run but no radio or lights and such. also i was thinking even about a house in a lightning storm and all chimneys have lightning rods and are grounded. what about connecting a pole from like a chain link fence and connecting it to your concrete driveway (theres metal rebar throughout that) so the emp would transfered from the car to the ground. |