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Interesting German documentary that delves into three cases of child abuse in France. Three victims, 'Deborah', 'Robbert' and 'Noemi' tell about their experiences of abuse, and how they were molested in a pedophile network.

Rumours about these pedophile networks are not uncommon. The Casa Pia case in Portugal, the Dutroux case in Belgium, the Franklin affair in the USA and the Zandvoort affair in the Netherlands to name but a few- in all these cases there have been allegations of cover-ups and involvement of people in high societal standing, and investigations seldom lead to a satisfactory result- the Portuguese Casa Pia scandal, where politicians and a national tv-show host were actually convicted, being the proverbial black swan.

Noemi, in this documentary, claims to have met Marc Dutroux, the Belgian pedophile who was convicted for kidnapping and killing several girls in the late 1990's, through her father. If this is true, it is explosive evidence of the case reaching beyond national borders, something that has always been suspected by researchers.

The two girls and the boy's stories are horrible beyond imagination- not only involving abuse, but also child-murders, infant sacrifices and instances of cannibalism. It's tempting to dismiss their stories as the product of imagination, given the trauma they have been through, but it should be stated that these testimonies are very similar to what the 'X-witnesses' in the Dutroux affair claimed.

There is an excellent book, 'the X-files; what Belgium wasn't allowed to know about the Dutroux affair' in which three investigative journalists research the story of Regina Louf, aka witness 'X-1'. She was the first to come forward with her story. Many believed her but then the press instigated a character assassination. The writers of this book however, not only find many credible details in her story, about never resolved murders of young girls in Belgium, but they also show beyond a doubt the whole investigation into the case was deliberately derailed by Belgian Justice.











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TY for the bump. I just found this thread:

Thread: I was ritually abused and mind controlled as a child - ask me a question

sounds sincere.

I think there are a lot of people being dismissed as loonies who actually have some very spooky insights to offer in how our society is organised.
I've been digging into this shit ever since I found out about a couple of similar cases in the Netherlands. I've now read quite a few victim testimonies that in themselves are hard to believe, but together they confirm each other. And these stories come from all over the world, too.

I think it's important - as in a key-issue - and it obviously must stop.
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It is hideous how still unknown and disrespected the phenomenon of ritual or 'satanic' abuse is. It seems so unbelievable to most people that there could be such evil perpetrated, and hidden so well, that most people easily dismiss the whole idea. This is a tragedy of epic proportions. Darkness is very, very intelligent and hides itself well.

Even wikipedia is dismissive of the concept of satanic ritual abuse. If you look it up there, you will see it dismissed and called simply a 'moral panic.' Unreal! I read on the website of one therapist who specializes in helping ritual abuse survivors, that she had repeatedly sent letters to wikipedia to correct its information, sending documents of the mounds of proof of the validity of ritual abuse, and of the rather dubious claims of the 'false memory' crowd, and what their real agenda is. ...But wikipedia doesn't want to hear the truth. ...Another reason to be skeptical of it as a source of objective information.

There are many websites out there, and some good books to read of survivor experiences, for those who want to research.
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[link to www.ra-info.org]

From the site above, here is their book list:

Many of these books are now out of print. A good place to look for copies is [link to www.bibliofind.com]

Adams, Jeanne. (1999) Drawn swords: My victory over childhood ritual abuse. See [link to www.mrlight.org]

Bass, Ellen and Davis, Laura. (1988) The courage to heal.: A guide for women survivors of sexual abuse. Harper /Row, NY, NY. The classic resource guide for adult survivors of sexual abuse; new edition includes some information on ritual abuse. There's also a workbook that expands on the writing sections.

Beckylane (1995) Where the rivers join: A personal account of healing from ritual abuse. Press Gang: Vancouver, BC, Canada. A beautiful book that captures the lonely essence of healing.

Blood, Linda Osborne. (1994) The new satanists. Warner: NY, NY. The history of satanism, details of documented ritual abuse cases, and information about current satanic groups and organizations. Includes material on Michael Aquino and the Presidio day-care center.

Brown, Dee. (1996) Satanic ritual abuse: A therapist's handbook. Blue Moon Press, 1255 Ogden, Ste. 307, UT. A warm, encouraging introduction to the treatment of adult survivors of ritual abuse, written for therapists beginning work in this area.

Chase - The Troops for Truddi Chase. (1987) When rabbit howls. Dutton, NY, NY and 1990 Jove Books, NY, NY.

Daymore, Rosie. (2001) Blessed: Reclaiming my life from the hidden horror of ritual abuse. Life Path Pub. House, Indianapolis, IN. Beautiful, profound, simple, and loving.

Davis, Laura. (1992) Allies in healing: When the person you love as sexually abused as a child. Harper Collins: NY, NY. Support for those that have the courage to love a survivor. There's also a workbook.

de Camp, John W. (1991). The Franklin cover-up: Child abuse, satanism and murder in Nebraska. A.W.T., Inc., P.O. Box 85461, Lincoln, NE 68501.

Hersha, Cheryl, Hersha, Lynn, Griffis, Dale, and Schwartz, Ted. (2001) Secret weapons: Two sisters' terrifying true story of sex, spies and sabotage. New Horizons Press, Far Hills, NJ.

Karriker, Wanda (2003) Morning, Come Quickly. Sandime, LTD. A beautifully written, complex story of a therapist coming to grips with cult activivty in her town, family, and clients. See [link to www.morningcomequickly.com]

LA County Commission for Women. Ritual Abuse: Definitions, Glossary, the Use of Mind Control. Ritual Abuse Task Force, 383 Hall of Administration, 500 West Temple Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012. A really clear introduction. A classic.

Levenda, Peter. (1995) Unholy Alliance: A history of Nazi involvement with the occult. Avon, NY, NY.

Kennedy, William H. (2004) Lucifer's lodge: Satanic ritual abuse in the Catholic Church. Sophia Perennis, Hillsdale, NY.

Oksana, Chrystine. (1994) Safe passage to healing: A guide for survivors of ritual abuse. Harper Perennial, NY. NY. The most complete book on healing from ritual abuse available. If you only buy one book, make it this one.

Newton, Michael. (1993) Raising hell: An encyclopedia of devil worship and satanic crime. Avon Books, NY, NY. Short, accurate summaries of various topics.

Noblitt, J. R. and Perskin, Pamela. (1995) Cult and ritual abuse: Its history, anthropology, and recent discovery in contemporary America.. (2000) Revised edition. Praeger, Westport, CT. Mostly history and analysis, but some material on therapeutic technciques. Extrememly well researched and documented.

Rich, Mary and Jose, Carol. (1996) Evil web: A true story of cult abuse and courage. Horizon Press: Far Hills, NJ. About abuse in a Christian-based cult, the author's escape, her fight to find and reclaim her children, and the successful criminal prosecution against the cult leader, Ronald Larrinaga.

Richardson, Anna. (1997) Double vision: A travelogue of recovery from ritual abuse. Trilogy Books, Pasadena, CA.

Ridgeway, J. (1990) Blood in the face: The Ku Klux Klan, Aryan Nations, Nazi skinheads, and the rise of a new white culture. Thunder's Mouth Press: NY, NY.

Rutz, Carol. (2001) A nation betrayed: Secret cold war experiments performed on our children and other innocent people. Fidelity Publishing, Grass Lake, MI. See [link to www2.dmci.net]

Ryder, Daniel. (1992) Breaking the circle of ritual satanic abuse: Recognizing and recovering from the hidden trauma. CompCare Publishers, Minneapolis, MN. A Twelve-Step approach to healing.

Sanford, D. (1990) Don't make me go back, Mommy. Multnomah Press, Portland, OR. A child's book about healing from ritual abuse at day care. For everybody's inner kids.

Smith, Margaret. (1993) Ritual Abuse: What It Is, Why It Happens, How to Help. HarperSanFrancisco, San Francisco, CA. A general introduction to RA and healing, written by a survivor/multiple, with a chapter on leaving the cult --- a topic seldom discussed..

Spencer, J. (1997) Satan's high priest: A true story. Biography of a small-town high priest, his family, and his loss of power within and outside of the cult. Good introduction for those unfamiliar with ritual abuse.

Terry, M. (1987) The ultimate evil: An investigation into a dangerous satanic cult. Bantam Books, NY, NY. An extensive investigation of the Son of Sam murders, linking them to a national network of cults.

Weinstein, Harvey. (1990) Psychiatry and the CIA: Victims of mind control. American Psychiatric Press: Washington, D.C. Dr. Weinstein's account of his father's abuse at the hands of Dr. Ewen Cameron and the successful fight to win judgments against the Canadian government.

Woodsum, Gayle M. (1998) The ultimate challenge: A revolutionary, sane and sensible response to ritualistic and cult-related abuse. Action Resources International, Laramie, WY. Practical sugestions for safety and healing.
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A good site for research:

Stop Mind Control and Ritual Abuse Today (S.M.A.R.T.)

[link to ritualabuse.us]

...As I said above, about Wikipedia:

"Ritualabuse.us has been blacklisted from Wikipedia with three other sites with evidence of child abuse and ritual abuse crimes against children. [link to ritualabuse.us] We are recommending that people do not use Wikipedia as a resource until all four sites are removed from the blacklist. We are also recommending that people write Wikipedia and let others know about this."


"False memory syndrome proponents tactics – False memory syndrome proponents have done the following to try and ensure that only their point of view is in the public view. Harassing debate opponents, misrepresenting the data in the field and controlling the media. [link to ritualabuse.us]
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Ah--here is the therapist's site that I mentioned above, who is one of those that was blacklisted by wikipedia...

[link to endritualabuse.org]

"My website is endritualabuse.org

"I have attempted to get information from Wikipedia on why my website was blacklisted and to get it de-blacklisted. I have been stonewalled on both counts.

"Since February, 2008, on Wikipedia’s page on “Satanic Ritual Abuse,” Wikipedia’s staff has been suppressing and deleting credible posts from credible sources (including my posts- I am a licensed California psychologist) that have documented substantial criminal and psychological evidence of criminal ritual abuse, and instead has completely discounted the existence of ritual abuse. "
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It is hideous how still unknown and disrespected the phenomenon of ritual or 'satanic' abuse is. It seems so unbelievable to most people that there could be such evil perpetrated, and hidden so well, that most people easily dismiss the whole idea. This is a tragedy of epic proportions. Darkness is very, very intelligent and hides itself well.

Even wikipedia is dismissive of the concept of satanic ritual abuse. If you look it up there, you will see it dismissed and called simply a 'moral panic.' Unreal! I read on the website of one therapist who specializes in helping ritual abuse survivors, that she had repeatedly sent letters to wikipedia to correct its information, sending documents of the mounds of proof of the validity of ritual abuse, and of the rather dubious claims of the 'false memory' crowd, and what their real agenda is. ...But wikipedia doesn't want to hear the truth. ...Another reason to be skeptical of it as a source of objective information.

There are many websites out there, and some good books to read of survivor experiences, for those who want to research.
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On the one hand, I find it comforting that people don't want to believe this- if they're not able to believe such horrors exist, it pleads for them, in a way.
But then, it is a reality and society should not turn a blind eye towards these crimes. So many witnesses, victims and otherwise, have come forward who have a right to be believed or at the very least be heard.

It is believed among researchers the Netherlands are a big centre for child prostitution and -trafficking and this could well be true; we have this case over here where the highest official in the Justice Department, one Joris Demmink, has been connected to child molestation for over fifteen years now- he's the secretary-general, the highest in rank under the minister, but as ministers come and go, he's the one who's really pulling the strings.
A couple of years ago there was a bit of a frenzy over him, then all of a sudden all newspapers and tv networks dropped the story and they ignore it agressively now- think censoring comments on the internet e.g.

[link to wikicompany.org]

What if the internet did not exist? Or if it were as censored as the Chinese internet? These issues would be as non-existent to the public as the Tianmen Square incident would be to the Chinese..
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Ah--here is the therapist's site that I mentioned above, who is one of those that was blacklisted by wikipedia...

[link to endritualabuse.org]

"My website is endritualabuse.org

"I have attempted to get information from Wikipedia on why my website was blacklisted and to get it de-blacklisted. I have been stonewalled on both counts.

"Since February, 2008, on Wikipedia’s page on “Satanic Ritual Abuse,” Wikipedia’s staff has been suppressing and deleting credible posts from credible sources (including my posts- I am a licensed California psychologist) that have documented substantial criminal and psychological evidence of criminal ritual abuse, and instead has completely discounted the existence of ritual abuse. "
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Thanks for all the links, I've bookmarked them

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Ther's also a very good french doc about ritual child rape/assassination wich is called "Viol d'enfants : la fin du silence". I don't know if there's a subtitled version of this doc, but it's a must see.
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Interesting German documentary that delves into three cases of child abuse in France. Three victims, 'Deborah', 'Robbert' and 'Noemi' tell about their experiences of abuse, and how they were molested in a pedophile network.

Rumours about these pedophile networks are not uncommon. The Casa Pia case in Portugal, the Dutroux case in Belgium, the Franklin affair in the USA and the Zandvoort affair in the Netherlands to name but a few- in all these cases there have been allegations of cover-ups and involvement of people in high societal standing, and investigations seldom lead to a satisfactory result- the Portuguese Casa Pia scandal, where politicians and a national tv-show host were actually convicted, being the proverbial black swan.

Noemi, in this documentary, claims to have met Marc Dutroux, the Belgian pedophile who was convicted for kidnapping and killing several girls in the late 1990's, through her father. If this is true, it is explosive evidence of the case reaching beyond national borders, something that has always been suspected by researchers.

The two girls and the boy's stories are horrible beyond imagination- not only involving abuse, but also child-murders, infant sacrifices and instances of cannibalism. It's tempting to dismiss their stories as the product of imagination, given the trauma they have been through, but it should be stated that these testimonies are very similar to what the 'X-witnesses' in the Dutroux affair claimed.

There is an excellent book, 'the X-files; what Belgium wasn't allowed to know about the Dutroux affair' in which three investigative journalists research the story of Regina Louf, aka witness 'X-1'. She was the first to come forward with her story. Many believed her but then the press instigated a character assassination. The writers of this book however, not only find many credible details in her story, about never resolved murders of young girls in Belgium, but they also show beyond a doubt the whole investigation into the case was deliberately derailed by Belgian Justice.












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You can be guaranteed that President Nicholas Sarkozy is behind ALL of it in France alongside Jacob Amschel Rothschild and Nathaniel Rothschild. ELITE JEWISH PEOPLE and paedophilia go hand-in-hand.
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Regina Louf, victim-witness 'X1' in the Belgian Dutroux case has told the story of her life extensively. At first she remained anonymous, but then the press outed her and she decided to go public. In her book and in the police hearings she tells about her DiD/ MPD. But she also says: 'the perpetrators also suffer from split personalities.'
Many are gradually lured into this shit, are made complicit, and it must be traumatizing for them as well.
So it seems to me the 'split personalities' are cultivated not only in the victims, but also in the people who partake in this.
Think for instance how a manager is esteemed if he's able to fire people without remorse. A better example may be, someone who leads a country to war for profits. I think people are lured into these networks, and blackmailed, to destroy their empathy and to be sharpened as tools, so to speak.
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Ther's also a very good french doc about ritual child rape/assassination wich is called "Viol d'enfants : la fin du silence". I don't know if there's a subtitled version of this doc, but it's a must see.
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Thank you, I found it. My French isn't the best but I'm going to watch it. When searching yesterday i found a blog implicating Mitterrand in these abuse cases:
[link to marie.roca.over-blog.com]

But I have yet to delve deeper into this.

I also found a couple of typical things about Annemasse, the town where 'Deborah' from the video lived. It was the hometwon of the Priory of Sion, founded by mythomane Pierre Plantard. Conspiracy theory about the Priory of Sion aside, à la Dan Brown's Da Vinci Code, this Plantard is a colourful figure to say the least, widely involved in pan-european circles. This site has a lot to say about this pan-European movement:

[link to wikispooks.com (secure)]

Also, I found Annemasse was/ is a centre of Gladio activity. Gladio was an Nato underground stay-behind network that was involved in a lot of false-flag terror attacks in Europe, notably in Italy, where it was exposed after the Bologna bombing, I believe, but the movement has also been connected to the Belgian Gang of Nijvel killings in the 1980's.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

There are a lot of dots to be connected.
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Regina Louf, victim-witness 'X1' in the Belgian Dutroux case has told the story of her life extensively. At first she remained anonymous, but then the press outed her and she decided to go public. In her book and in the police hearings she tells about her DiD/ MPD. But she also says: 'the perpetrators also suffer from split personalities.'
Many are gradually lured into this shit, are made complicit, and it must be traumatizing for them as well.
So it seems to me the 'split personalities' are cultivated not only in the victims, but also in the people who partake in this.
Think for instance how a manager is esteemed if he's able to fire people without remorse. A better example may be, someone who leads a country to war for profits. I think people are lured into these networks, and blackmailed, to destroy their empathy and to be sharpened as tools, so to speak.
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Indeed, the psychological technology for creating multiple, compartmentalized personalities has long existed. Even groups in smaller, rural areas know how to effectively use trauma, starting in infancy, to create a dissociative mental state through years of studied mental, physical, and sexual torture techniques.

These people grow up with that as their 'normal,' and carry on as part of these generational groups, including willingly offering their own children, or obtaining children from elsewhere, for programming as sex slaves, or simply sacrificial offerings.
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-Satanic Cults
-Trauma based mind contol
-Filming politicians having sex with children for blackmail


This sh*t is real. People need to wake up to this sick reality.





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[link to ritualabuseexposed.wordpress.com]
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Here is a link to view the documentary, "Conspiracy of Silence," covering the story written about in The Franklin Scandal: A Story of Powerbrokers, Child Abuse & Betrayal, by Nick Bryant.

[link to www.franklinscandal.com]

From the site:

"The FRANKLIN SCANDAL is the story of a nationwide pedophile ring that pandered children to a cabal of the rich and powerful. The ring’s pimps were a pair of political powerbrokers who had access to the highest levels of our government. Nebraska legislators nearly exposed the ring in 1990, but its unveiling had the potential to produce seismic political aftershocks.The legislators' efforts resulted in rash of mysterious deaths and the overpowering corruption of federal and local law enforcement, including the FBI, Secret Service, and Justice Department, effecting an immaculate cover-up of the trafficking network."

"Conspiracy of Silence was a documentary about child trafficking in the U.S. that was to be shown in the United Kingdom, but it was suppressed by the Discovery Channel."

It is also viewable elsewhere on the web, including this youtube one:


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Ther's also a very good french doc about ritual child rape/assassination wich is called "Viol d'enfants : la fin du silence". I don't know if there's a subtitled version of this doc, but it's a must see.
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Found an subtitled version:




Thanks again!
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[link to ritualabuseexposed.wordpress.com]
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Good blog...thank you.

I don't quite know how the phenomenon of ritual abuse is going to become more accepted as real, among those who've not experienced it or known someone who has, because it seems so inconceivable that human beings can behave like this--which is exactly what the practitioners are counting on, so it can remain hidden. I think it will take a long time, but maybe decades from now it will be more in the open and finally start to fade away. As long as something is hidden, it continues.

A quote i just came across:

"Only the small secrets need to be protected. The big ones are kept secret by public incredulity." --Marshall McLuhan

...I read somewhere that repressed memories of abuse typically don't start coming to our conscious mind until the age of late 30's to 50's. Imagine how devastated the soul is, to push something out of our memories for so long.

Despite all the people doubting, you must trust yourself, trust what you are sensing! It's your story as you remember it that matters. It's the only way you'll heal.
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Bump. ...Very good film. Suppressed and never shown in US.

It is also viewable elsewhere on the web, including this youtube one:



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...FYI, this youtube version is only the first part of Conspiracy of Silence. Click on the 'watch on youtube' button to go to youtube and find the rest of the parts, posted by the same person.

Again, full film is also viewable here:

[link to www.franklinscandal.com]
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This film was very hard to watch.

The perps. need to "questioned" about whom they were creating their product. Vigilante justic is the only way justice will be caried out.
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According to Lt. Col Greg Rinchich aka Lt. Col. SC some of the children in pedophile rings end up as certain alien groups or subgroups food...

[link to www.theedgeam.com]
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