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If the JW's are right on the blood issue, that only leaves 1 percent that follows the Word then, doesn't it?

Regardless of whether they are right or wrong, your family member made a choice. A choice I'm sure they are proud to have made. Why can't you give them respect for not only living what they believe, but dying for it?

The JW's in that building who were attacked, had nothing to do with your relative dying. They were going about their peaceable business. No one should be attacked for going about their peaceful business. They should also not be blamed for your relative's choice.
 Quoting: Nine's 1140990


They are not right on the blood issue in my opinion. I believe that the Bible was addressing pagan ceremonies where they drank blood as part of pagan rituals.

What does that have to do with someone getting a blood transfusion to save their life?

Nothing.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Because JW's believe taking blood into the mouth is used to sustain life just like taking it into the veins. They don't accept whole blood but other alternatives including hemoglobin and a myriad of other procedures.

Leviticus 17:10 And whatsoever man there be of the house of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn among you, that eateth any manner of blood; I will even set my face against that soul that eateth blood, and will cut him off from among his people.
11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.
12 Therefore I said unto the children of Israel, No soul of you shall eat blood, neither shall any stranger that sojourneth among you eat blood.
13 And whatsoever man there be of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn among you, which hunteth and catcheth any beast or fowl that may be eaten; he shall even pour out the blood thereof, and cover it with dust.
14 For it is the life of all flesh; the blood of it is for the life thereof: therefore I said unto the children of Israel, Ye shall eat the blood of no manner of flesh: for the life of all flesh is the blood thereof: whosoever eateth it shall be cut off.

In the old testament there was a ban on eating fat as well. But in the new testament only the ban on eating the blood was kept.
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Funny that they hold that to the letter, but they don't observe the sabbath........one of the 10 commandments. Go figure.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


The sabbath was for the Jews only. Christians are under the law of the Christ and waiting for the 1000 year reign of Christ. That will be a millennial Sabbath. JW's can worship on any day of the week and usually do. In many of the larger cities you will find them in their halls seven days a week because of different congregations meeting there.

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By the same token, what does blood transfusion have to do with peaceful law abiding people going about their business, being attacked?

Nothing.
 Quoting: Nine's 1140990


In Bulgaria it is against the law to allow a child to bleed to death by preventing a blood transfusion. That does not make them "peaceful law abiding people," it makes them crimminals.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1269039


There were children bleeding to death in the film? I saw no children. I noticed MEN were at the door. It appeared that children and women were not "in the line of fire." How quaint those "crimminals" are.
 Quoting: Nine's 1140990


Ummm... the children usually bleed to death in a hospital while doctors desperately attempt to convince the parents to allow a transfusion. However, this never works because JWs are extremely stubborn and stupid, and when you attempt to reason with them, they get even more stubborn and stupid.
There are even videos of JWs stubbornly refusing blood before they bled to death in the hospital.

However, I don't care about some dumbass adult that chooses to bleed to death for his bat shit religion, but when they do it to their innocent children, that's a different story.
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you people are all retarded.
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Thank you for contributing something useful.
hf
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They are not right on the blood issue in my opinion. I believe that the Bible was addressing pagan ceremonies where they drank blood as part of pagan rituals.

What does that have to do with someone getting a blood transfusion to save their life?

Nothing.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Because JW's believe taking blood into the mouth is used to sustain life just like taking it into the veins. They don't accept whole blood but other alternatives including hemoglobin and a myriad of other procedures.

Leviticus 17:10 And whatsoever man there be of the house of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn among you, that eateth any manner of blood; I will even set my face against that soul that eateth blood, and will cut him off from among his people.
11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.
12 Therefore I said unto the children of Israel, No soul of you shall eat blood, neither shall any stranger that sojourneth among you eat blood.
13 And whatsoever man there be of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn among you, which hunteth and catcheth any beast or fowl that may be eaten; he shall even pour out the blood thereof, and cover it with dust.
14 For it is the life of all flesh; the blood of it is for the life thereof: therefore I said unto the children of Israel, Ye shall eat the blood of no manner of flesh: for the life of all flesh is the blood thereof: whosoever eateth it shall be cut off.

In the old testament there was a ban on eating fat as well. But in the new testament only the ban on eating the blood was kept.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1317855


Funny that they hold that to the letter, but they don't observe the sabbath........one of the 10 commandments. Go figure.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


The sabbath was for the Jews only. Christians are under the law of the Christ and waiting for the 1000 year reign of Christ. That will be a millennial Sabbath. JW's can worship on any day of the week and usually do. In many of the larger cities you will find them in their halls seven days a week because of different congregations meeting there.

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The sabbath was not for the jews only, but also for the followers of Jesus too. But, going by your logic, the law against blood would have only been for the jews as well but JW"s adhere to that and threw the sabbath out the door even tho it's even one of the 10 commandments given by God Himself! Talk about ridiculous reasoning......
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You have a good day as well. Time for me to go as well. It has been interesting everyone!!!!
hf
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You have a good day as well. Time for me to go as well. It has been interesting everyone!!!!
hf
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Oops forgot the quote. That was to Nine's (and everyone else). Peace and Love!
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Jehovah's Witnesses are the scum of the earth they must be eradicated!
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They are not the scum of the earth. The worthless cowards attacking them are scum of the earth. Those who think they should be eradicated better have good backup because many are more than willing to fight for those who don't fight for themselves. Scum indeed. Your comment is sickening.
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+1
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You should not deceive us by putting the word "Graphic" in the headline...I was hoping to see a beheading or something, now I feel ripped off.
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You are a vile litte piss ant.
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At this point, it's casting pearls before swine. The issue of innocent people being attacked has been sidetracked by nitpicking and paybacks for supposed wrongs. It's been interesting, and an eye opener for what the future holds. Time for everyone to evaluate how they'd react, and whether they'd stand by and allow this to happen. If this thread is any indication, it doesn't bode well for "true" Christians. Got work to do. You guys have a good day.
 Quoting: Nine's 1140990


OK, anyone that feels that they have been damaged by the JW religion in some way is a "swine," correct? And they are themselves to blame when their family is torn apart because of JW nonsense, or if they even lose a family member because of some autocrat's biblical interpretation about an issue that's not even mentioned in the bible, there swine too. Correct?

Since organ transplants are allowed for JWs, I am hoping that some day brain transplants may help a few of them.
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By the same token, what does blood transfusion have to do with peaceful law abiding people going about their business, being attacked?

Nothing.
 Quoting: Nine's 1140990


In Bulgaria it is against the law to allow a child to bleed to death by preventing a blood transfusion. That does not make them "peaceful law abiding people," it makes them crimminals.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1269039


There were children bleeding to death in the film? I saw no children. I noticed MEN were at the door. It appeared that children and women were not "in the line of fire." How quaint those "crimminals" are.
 Quoting: Nine's 1140990


Ummm... the children usually bleed to death in a hospital while doctors desperately attempt to convince the parents to allow a transfusion. However, this never works because JWs are extremely stubborn and stupid, and when you attempt to reason with them, they get even more stubborn and stupid.
There are even videos of JWs stubbornly refusing blood before they bled to death in the hospital.

However, I don't care about some dumbass adult that chooses to bleed to death for his bat shit religion, but when they do it to their innocent children, that's a different story.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1269039


So what...it is their belief, leave them alone. There is no reason to attack these people. I've never had any problems with them. They are peaceful and don't harm anybody.
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you people are all retarded.
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Thank you for contributing something useful.
hf
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well, you know the 'world'...tossed about hither and thither, and all that jazz. not taking the time to figure out what the bible REALLY says, and not praying for holy spirit beforehand. they'll learn soon enough.
"Blah, blah, blah - insert pointless rant here - blah."
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Im nt a christian or jw - but this is wrong.
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The JW's are annoying but this is really horrible. That pack of men looked like Nazis. Why are they bothering those peaceful church people? They went and kicked in thier door? What are they trying to prove?

I think the JW's should have stayed inside right when the thugs marched up. They should have locked the door and called the police.

Those protesters looked like they thought it was all a big joke. Did they JW's ever harm them? It is one thing to speak out against them but to attack them like that is wrong.

Maybe they do it because they know the JW's wont fight back in a war situation.
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"Be excellent to each other."

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So what...it is their belief, leave them alone. There is no reason to attack these people. I've never had any problems with them. They are peaceful and don't harm anybody.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1350833


That's the JW typical attitude, "leave us alone" "we're not hurting anybody," while they are tearing otherwise happy families apart at the seams, and while they conceal the vast amount of sexual abuse that never gets reported to authorities because it must be reported to the "elders" first.

They may appear squeaking clean to outsiders, but when it comes to inflicting anguish and pain in the name of their cult religion, they're a bunch of sewer rats.
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So what...it is their belief, leave them alone. There is no reason to attack these people. I've never had any problems with them. They are peaceful and don't harm anybody.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1350833


of sexual abuse that never gets reported to authorities because it must be reported to the "elders" first.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1269039


Lies!!!!

Your mantra is getting old.
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JW is the demonic spawn of Americanism.

As you can see by the demented comments here...
antichrist nuts don't fall far from the tree.


When the Bulgarian nationalists are finished
exterminating the antichrists from Bulgaria,
they are welcome to come here and do the same. :)




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 Quoting: AlasBabylon




And bring all your Orthodox brothers with you ;-)




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JW is the demonic spawn of Americanism.

As you can see by the demented comments here...
antichrist nuts don't fall far from the tree.


When the Bulgarian nationalists are finished
exterminating the antichrists from Bulgaria,
they are welcome to come here and do the same. :)




.
 Quoting: AlasBabylon




And bring all your Orthodox brothers with you ;-)




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 Quoting: AlasBabylon


Except for the Orthodox brothers that we fight against and kill in war...just kill those other Orthodox brothers cause they ain't the right Orthodox. Oh and kill all Catholic worshipers too, in fact why don't we just get all of "Christianity" into a big royal rumble and kill each other off.

I'm just trying to sum up what you are saying here pretty much. Nice work!
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Only true Christians would react with such dignity and peace.



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what do you expect from a bunch of savages.
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So what...it is their belief, leave them alone. There is no reason to attack these people. I've never had any problems with them. They are peaceful and don't harm anybody.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1350833


That's the JW typical attitude, "leave us alone" "we're not hurting anybody," while they are tearing otherwise happy families apart at the seams, and while they conceal the vast amount of sexual abuse that never gets reported to authorities because it must be reported to the "elders" first.

They may appear squeaking clean to outsiders, but when it comes to inflicting anguish and pain in the name of their cult religion, they're a bunch of sewer rats.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1269039


You are right the Witness Organization isn't perfect by any stretch of the matter because it's run by imperfect people. And of course you have to single out ONLY the Jehovah's Witnesses with regards to sexual abuse cause that has NEVER happened in ANY other religion. Or maybe because all those who "covered" up the sexual abuse cases maybe came from OTHER organized religions that did that to begin with? Besides it all comes out anyhow and those types of "leaders" get outed anyway once it's revealed. And yes 99% of the time Jehovah's Witnesses ARE peaceful law abiding citizens except when it clashes with Jehovah's laws.

Luke 20:25 "He said to them: "By all means, then, pay back Caesar's things to Caesar, but God's things to God."

Are you looking for vindication that a human erred and they happened to belong to the Jehovah's Witness organization? Well congratulations you've discovered the world isn't a fair place. You are NOT the only one who has dealt with loss or complications with this organization. You will NEVER find justice in this world..EVER!

Matt 24:12 "..and because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off."

That didn't say it wouldn't happen to Witnesses. As a sign of the end nearing it will happen to EVERYONE in the world.
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JW is the demonic spawn of Americanism.

As you can see by the demented comments here...
antichrist nuts don't fall far from the tree.


When the Bulgarian nationalists are finished
exterminating the antichrists from Bulgaria,
they are welcome to come here and do the same. :)




.
 Quoting: AlasBabylon




And bring all your Orthodox brothers with you ;-)




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 Quoting: AlasBabylon






Especially Russians ;-)





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You are right the Witness Organization isn't perfect by any stretch of the matter because it's run by imperfect people.
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alien16


Exactly.
GLP = Whirlwind of stupid.
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the end is near....
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the witnesses have for years preached of an economic
collapse and a persecution of their faith. This post and
video validate their beliefs.
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the witnesses have for years preached of an economic
collapse and a persecution of their faith. This post and
video validate their beliefs.
 Quoting: the captain 33 1352027


People don't like Jehovah's Witnesses coming to their door and telling them that the world is coming to an end.
Too Bad, Jesus Kingdom IS HERE and the world as we know it will End ! They have endless preached this JUST as Jesus Commanded TRUE Christians to do ! Wake UP
The End is here and Jesus is at the door and Jehovah's Witnesses are the ONLY ONES worldwide Fulfilling that Commandment !
Yes they have been telling people for almost 100 years that this system would end this way.
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the witnesses have for years preached of an economic
collapse and a persecution of their faith. This post and
video validate their beliefs.
 Quoting: the captain 33 1352027


People don't like Jehovah's Witnesses coming to their door and telling them that the world is coming to an end.
Too Bad, Jesus Kingdom IS HERE and the world as we know it will End ! They have endless preached this JUST as Jesus Commanded TRUE Christians to do ! Wake UP
The End is here and Jesus is at the door and Jehovah's Witnesses are the ONLY ONES worldwide Fulfilling that Commandment !
Yes they have been telling people for almost 100 years that this system would end this way.
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THE ONLY ONES WORLDWIDE FULFILLMENT !!! NOW
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People need to remember, JW's goal isn't to convert every last person on earth, its to atleast get the word out to every last person on earth.

Jehovah wouldn't destroy people who have never had a chance.
GLP = Whirlwind of stupid.
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Funny how these Nationalists think that Jehovah's Witnesses are a dangerous sect and that they have a bad influence on children.Did you see the video of the nationalists attacking Jehovah's Witnesses in Bulgaria? Did you see their children holding their flag? What kind of influence are they having on their children? That you resort to violence if you don't get what you want? What kind of effect on their children do they think all that violence will have on them? Also note too the fact they they know Jehovah's Witnesses are peaceful, law-abiding, and are not vengeful. That is why the Nationalists had their children present. Otherwise they would not risk their identity or person if things got violent. The would't have done that if they thought they were beating up people who would retaliate. You would think the VMRO wold have bigger fish to fry and not worry about a little sect in Bulgaria called Jehovah's Witnesses. If they had something better to offer the people they wouldn't have to resort to violence. And what population of people would want to back an organization that resorts to violent tactics to get what they want. Reminds me of the Nazi regime. Who would want that? The VMRO should worry about their own problems with their own divided infrastructure.They cannot even solve problems amongst themselves.
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No, they are. Going as far as persicuting others for their beliefs is what a good christian does.
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Funny how blind they can be....
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At this point, it's casting pearls before swine. The issue of innocent people being attacked has been sidetracked by nitpicking and paybacks for supposed wrongs. It's been interesting, and an eye opener for what the future holds. Time for everyone to evaluate how they'd react, and whether they'd stand by and allow this to happen. If this thread is any indication, it doesn't bode well for "true" Christians. Got work to do. You guys have a good day.
 Quoting: Nine's 1140990


OK, anyone that feels that they have been damaged by the JW religion in some way is a "swine," correct? And they are themselves to blame when their family is torn apart because of JW nonsense, or if they even lose a family member because of some autocrat's biblical interpretation about an issue that's not even mentioned in the bible, there swine too. Correct?

Since organ transplants are allowed for JWs, I am hoping that some day brain transplants may help a few of them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1269039