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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1346013 United States 04/21/2011 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: AlasBabylonJW deny the deity of Christ - JW are not Christians. . How dumb. jesus was a monotheist. he prayed like you and me. im not a JW, but it is clear as day jesus never claimed to be god. true. he only claimed to be God's son. what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, 'I am God's Son'? John 10:36 its funny because you read the dialogue and discussion between jesus and the jews in the gospel of john, they accused him of claiming to be god, jesus explained how they were wrong (citing the psalms about the sons of god) so basically the orthodox christians are making the same mistake as the pharisees. not surprising. |
AlasBabylon User ID: 833993 United States 04/21/2011 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . JW deny the divinity of Jesus Christ. Quotes below from " Holy Zeal " written by Archbishop Averky " According to tradition, St. Nicholas took part in the First Ecumenical Council in Nicaea, which brought forth a condemnation of the heretic Arius, who denied the Divinity of the Second Person of the Holy Trinity, the Son of God. During the disputes which occurred in connection with this, St. Nicholas could not listen with indifference to the blasphemous speeches of the arrogant heretic Arius, possessed by pride, who demeaned the Divine dignity of the Son of God, and before the whole Council he [St Nicholas] struck him [the blaspheming antichrist Arius] in the face with his hand. " * " Here we must show ourselves to be completely uncompromising, and we do not dare enter into any sort of cunning compromises or any reconciliation, even purely outward, or into any kind whatever of agreement with evil. To our personal enemies, according to Christ's commandment, we must forgive everything, but with the enemies of God we cannot have peace! Friendship with the enemies of God makes us ourselves the enemies of God: this is a betrayal and treason towards God.... " . Last Edited by AlasBabylon on 04/21/2011 02:48 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1269039 United States 04/21/2011 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | JW idiots killed my sister with their "no transfusions" bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1252779Its a cult that needs to be outlawed. Yup. Killed one of my family members too. They've killed 1000s of adults and 100s of children with their no-blood bullshit. Also, they've destroyed tens of thousands of happy families with their separation techniques. They can get people to reject and shun their loving family members. If another family member doesn't want to accept the JW horseshit, they are trained to pretend that they are dead. It doesn't bother me a bit to see the bastards suffer for the pain and anguish they've caused for so many people. The organization is basically run by a dozen aging, demented, and delusional autocrats that enjoy the easy life while 1000s of people run their publishing empire for less than a dollar an hour. This is no bullshit, the Watch Tower Society operates its massive printing facilities with slave labor, but they are never arrested for it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1317855 United States 04/21/2011 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: AlasBabylonJW deny the deity of Christ - JW are not Christians. . How dumb. jesus was a monotheist. he prayed like you and me. im not a JW, but it is clear as day jesus never claimed to be god. true. he only claimed to be God's son. what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, 'I am God's Son'? John 10:36 its funny because you read the dialogue and discussion between jesus and the jews in the gospel of john, they accused him of claiming to be god, jesus explained how they were wrong (citing the psalms about the sons of god) so basically the orthodox christians are making the same mistake as the pharisees. not surprising. exactly. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1346013 United States 04/21/2011 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: AlasBabylonJW deny the divinity of Jesus Christ. "Jesus grew in wisdom and in stature and in favor with God and all the people." Luke 2:52 "Men of Israel, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know." Acts 2:22 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1046584 Canada 04/21/2011 02:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | JW idiots killed my sister with their "no transfusions" bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1252779Its a cult that needs to be outlawed. Yup. Killed one of my family members too. They've killed 1000s of adults and 100s of children with their no-blood bullshit. Also, they've destroyed tens of thousands of happy families with their separation techniques. They can get people to reject and shun their loving family members. If another family member doesn't want to accept the JW horseshit, they are trained to pretend that they are dead. It doesn't bother me a bit to see the bastards suffer for the pain and anguish they've caused for so many people. The organization is basically run by a dozen aging, demented, and delusional autocrats that enjoy the easy life while 1000s of people run their publishing empire for less than a dollar an hour. This is no bullshit, the Watch Tower Society operates its massive printing facilities with slave labor, but they are never arrested for it. I mean, yah... and all the rest of the drones that volunteer and do charitable works for something they beleive in. Those commenting on JW doctrine disputing thier believe in Jesus really need to get educated. Those commenting on how jaded and helpless they are against JW power and control need to get a grip on they life. Fuck, move on. Live and let live. "Cuz I'm praying for rain And I'm praying for tidal waves I wanna see the ground give way. I wanna watch it all go down. Mom please flush it all away. I wanna watch it go right in and down. I wanna watch it go right in. Watch you flush it all away. I can't imagine why you wouldn't Welcome any change, my friend." Tool Aenima Lyrics Damn I cant wait... half the shills on GLP learn to swim. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1317855 United States 04/21/2011 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And if the medical community would allow seawater transfusions we wouldn't be having all these problems with blood and people dying because they won't accept it. Seawater was experimented with before WWI and many sick people were cured of all sorts of problems. Heck, even coconut water was used in wars to save people. Blood was and still is very dangerous. Leave it to the medical community to keep using blood when there are other alternatives that are also cheaper. [link to www.google.com] |
AlasBabylon User ID: 833993 United States 04/21/2011 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . JW is the demonic spawn of Americanism. As you can see by the demented comments here... antichrist nuts don't fall far from the tree. When the Bulgarian nationalists are finished exterminating the antichrists from Bulgaria, they are welcome to come here and do the same. :) . |
Nine's User ID: 1140990 United States 04/21/2011 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It doesn't bother me a bit to see the bastards suffer for the pain and anguish they've caused for so many people. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1269039"First They Came for the Jews" By Martin Niemoller First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew. Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist. Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1317855 United States 04/21/2011 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | JW idiots killed my sister with their "no transfusions" bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1252779Its a cult that needs to be outlawed. Yup. Killed one of my family members too. They've killed 1000s of adults and 100s of children with their no-blood bullshit. Also, they've destroyed tens of thousands of happy families with their separation techniques. They can get people to reject and shun their loving family members. If another family member doesn't want to accept the JW horseshit, they are trained to pretend that they are dead. It doesn't bother me a bit to see the bastards suffer for the pain and anguish they've caused for so many people. The organization is basically run by a dozen aging, demented, and delusional autocrats that enjoy the easy life while 1000s of people run their publishing empire for less than a dollar an hour. This is no bullshit, the Watch Tower Society operates its massive printing facilities with slave labor, but they are never arrested for it. I mean, yah... and all the rest of the drones that volunteer and do charitable works for something they beleive in. Those commenting on JW doctrine disputing thier believe in Jesus really need to get educated. Those commenting on how jaded and helpless they are against JW power and control need to get a grip on they life. Fuck, move on. Live and let live. "Cuz I'm praying for rain And I'm praying for tidal waves I wanna see the ground give way. I wanna watch it all go down. Mom please flush it all away. I wanna watch it go right in and down. I wanna watch it go right in. Watch you flush it all away. I can't imagine why you wouldn't Welcome any change, my friend." Tool Aenima Lyrics Damn I cant wait... half the shills on GLP learn to swim. Agree. And the last time I looked at a definition of a slave was someone who is made to work for no pay and against their will. No JW does this. Even those at Bethel have everything paid for and even get some money(maybe 90 bucks) for any extras they may need each moth. But they are volunteers who take a vow of poverty to do something they believe in. And they can leave anytime they like. People really need to read up on other's religions before they go spouting out nonsense. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1011642 United States 04/21/2011 03:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | JW idiots killed my sister with their "no transfusions" bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1252779Its a cult that needs to be outlawed. Since the pope's masonic knights created the cult we can add it to the list. People have many beliefs. Some worship a tree. If these religions (whatever they may be) have a history of serious violations of the law then at some point there should be restrictions. Some often considered: Marxism - as a political violent revolution conspiracy that has been banned in the past. Islam - the history is well documented. Roman Catholicism - same as all above, they have been banned in the past, they are agents of a foreign country (Vatican), and have a recent history and ongoing political activity. Freemasonry - conspiracy. You do realize Catholics and Masons are at odds with each other and have been fighting for hundreds of years? Your conspiracy theories are all starting to blend together.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1317855 United States 04/21/2011 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: AlasBabylonJW is the demonic spawn of Americanism. As you can see by the demented comments here... antichrist nuts don't fall far from the tree. When the Bulgarian nationalists are finished exterminating the antichrists from Bulgaria, they are welcome to come here and do the same. :) . Are you nuts? They are demonic spawn? A peaceable people who don't go to war and follow in Jesus' footsteps? And antichrist? They believe Jesus is God's son who died for our sins. Not the trinitarian crap that says that God died for us and not his son. Now that is antichrist. You are very a very ignorant person. And a very hateful one at that. Satan would be proud. |
Nine's User ID: 1140990 United States 04/21/2011 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People really need to read up on other's religions before they go spouting out nonsense. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1317855It's easier to babble lies, not question preconceived notions, and claim JW's "deserve it" than to use the few remaining brain cells to think it through. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1317855 United States 04/21/2011 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People really need to read up on other's religions before they go spouting out nonsense. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1317855It's easier to babble lies, not question preconceived notions, and claim JW's "deserve it" than to use the few remaining brain cells to think it through. True |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1269039 United States 04/21/2011 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And if the medical community would allow seawater transfusions we wouldn't be having all these problems with blood and people dying because they won't accept it. Seawater was experimented with before WWI and many sick people were cured of all sorts of problems. Heck, even coconut water was used in wars to save people. Blood was and still is very dangerous. Leave it to the medical community to keep using blood when there are other alternatives that are also cheaper. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1317855[link to www.google.com] Blood is a body fluid not a SIN, you dipshit. If you lose enough of it, you will die. JWs will inject just about anything into their blood stream if they are bleeding to death, EXCEPT BLOOD. --- Yeah, that's sound scientific reasoning. Now get this, this is the real kicker, THEY ALLOW ORGAN TRANSPLANTS! This is not bullshit. They allow organ transplants but not blood transfusions. These people are a bunch of psychotic bible thumping dupes. |
Nine's User ID: 1140990 United States 04/21/2011 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And if the medical community would allow seawater transfusions we wouldn't be having all these problems with blood and people dying because they won't accept it. Seawater was experimented with before WWI and many sick people were cured of all sorts of problems. Heck, even coconut water was used in wars to save people. Blood was and still is very dangerous. Leave it to the medical community to keep using blood when there are other alternatives that are also cheaper. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1317855[link to www.google.com] Blood is a body fluid not a SIN, you dipshit. If you lose enough of it, you will die. Read your first sentence again. A body fluid. Even a VET can replace body fluids with blood substitutes.....dipshit. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1317855 United States 04/21/2011 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And if the medical community would allow seawater transfusions we wouldn't be having all these problems with blood and people dying because they won't accept it. Seawater was experimented with before WWI and many sick people were cured of all sorts of problems. Heck, even coconut water was used in wars to save people. Blood was and still is very dangerous. Leave it to the medical community to keep using blood when there are other alternatives that are also cheaper. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1317855[link to www.google.com] Blood is a body fluid not a SIN, you dipshit. If you lose enough of it, you will die. JWs will inject just about anything into their blood stream if they are bleeding to death, EXCEPT BLOOD. --- Yeah, that's sound scientific reasoning. Now get this, this is the real kicker, THEY ALLOW ORGAN TRANSPLANTS! This is not bullshit. They allow organ transplants but not blood transfusions. These people are a bunch of psychotic bible thumping dupes. Acts 15:20 says, "but that we write to them that they abstain from things contaminated by idols and from fornication and from what is strangled and from blood." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1269039 United States 04/21/2011 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Agree. And the last time I looked at a definition of a slave was someone who is made to work for no pay and against their will. No JW does this. Even those at Bethel have everything paid for and even get some money(maybe 90 bucks) for any extras they may need each moth. But they are volunteers who take a vow of poverty to do something they believe in. And they can leave anytime they like. People really need to read up on other's religions before they go spouting out nonsense. Yes. How convenient for the lazy ass autocrats that make over a billion dollars a year off their printing operations. There is no more pathetic slave than a willing one! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1317855 United States 04/21/2011 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And if the medical community would allow seawater transfusions we wouldn't be having all these problems with blood and people dying because they won't accept it. Seawater was experimented with before WWI and many sick people were cured of all sorts of problems. Heck, even coconut water was used in wars to save people. Blood was and still is very dangerous. Leave it to the medical community to keep using blood when there are other alternatives that are also cheaper. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1317855[link to www.google.com] Blood is a body fluid not a SIN, you dipshit. If you lose enough of it, you will die. Read your first sentence again. A body fluid. Even a VET can replace body fluids with blood substitutes.....dipshit. Obviously he didn't read about safer substitutes. Even most doctors won't take blood and go the way of bloodless surgery. They aren't idiots but will push it on others. They have seen how blood can also kill and make someone very sick. So many safer alternatives could be used. But the witnesses can use hemoglobin and blood fractions that are not whole blood. Whole blood is rarely ever used. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1269039 United States 04/21/2011 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And if the medical community would allow seawater transfusions we wouldn't be having all these problems with blood and people dying because they won't accept it. Seawater was experimented with before WWI and many sick people were cured of all sorts of problems. Heck, even coconut water was used in wars to save people. Blood was and still is very dangerous. Leave it to the medical community to keep using blood when there are other alternatives that are also cheaper. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1317855[link to www.google.com] Blood is a body fluid not a SIN, you dipshit. If you lose enough of it, you will die. JWs will inject just about anything into their blood stream if they are bleeding to death, EXCEPT BLOOD. --- Yeah, that's sound scientific reasoning. Now get this, this is the real kicker, THEY ALLOW ORGAN TRANSPLANTS! This is not bullshit. They allow organ transplants but not blood transfusions. These people are a bunch of psychotic bible thumping dupes. Acts 15:20 says, "but that we write to them that they abstain from things contaminated by idols and from fornication and from what is strangled and from blood." That's it? That's your reason for letting someone bleed to death? Some obscure and irrelavent drivel written by some bronze age ignoramus that had no idea of what a blood transfusion even was? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1317855 United States 04/21/2011 03:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Agree. And the last time I looked at a definition of a slave was someone who is made to work for no pay and against their will. No JW does this. Even those at Bethel have everything paid for and even get some money(maybe 90 bucks) for any extras they may need each moth. But they are volunteers who take a vow of poverty to do something they believe in. And they can leave anytime they like. People really need to read up on other's religions before they go spouting out nonsense. Yes. How convenient for the lazy ass autocrats that make over a billion dollars a year off their printing operations. There is no more pathetic slave than a willing one! So anyone who volunteers for anything is a slave? You have got to be kidding. And no one in the organization draws a salary. Not even their governing body. In fact, they have NO PAID CLERGY. Unlike Christendom who gets rich off the backs of their followers. The money stays in the organization and go to building more kingdom halls and furthering the preaching work. It also goes to disasters as well. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1046584 Canada 04/21/2011 03:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Agree. And the last time I looked at a definition of a slave was someone who is made to work for no pay and against their will. No JW does this. Even those at Bethel have everything paid for and even get some money(maybe 90 bucks) for any extras they may need each moth. But they are volunteers who take a vow of poverty to do something they believe in. And they can leave anytime they like. People really need to read up on other's religions before they go spouting out nonsense. Yes. How convenient for the lazy ass autocrats that make over a billion dollars a year off their printing operations. There is no more pathetic slave than a willing one! So, what your telling me is that you won't sign up?? Pathetic, uneducated, manipulated as it may be, doesn't give right for others to act out violently and brutally. These people have had their fair share of represion and torture. A bunch of Bulgarian thugs will not scare them. If nothing else their faith is strenghtened by this kind of action. Hilter did them a favor by putting them in concentation camps together with other denominations. After WWII european and russian JW numbers sky-rocketed because of how many they converted in the camps. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1317855 United States 04/21/2011 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And if the medical community would allow seawater transfusions we wouldn't be having all these problems with blood and people dying because they won't accept it. Seawater was experimented with before WWI and many sick people were cured of all sorts of problems. Heck, even coconut water was used in wars to save people. Blood was and still is very dangerous. Leave it to the medical community to keep using blood when there are other alternatives that are also cheaper. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1317855[link to www.google.com] Blood is a body fluid not a SIN, you dipshit. If you lose enough of it, you will die. JWs will inject just about anything into their blood stream if they are bleeding to death, EXCEPT BLOOD. --- Yeah, that's sound scientific reasoning. Now get this, this is the real kicker, THEY ALLOW ORGAN TRANSPLANTS! This is not bullshit. They allow organ transplants but not blood transfusions. These people are a bunch of psychotic bible thumping dupes. Acts 15:20 says, "but that we write to them that they abstain from things contaminated by idols and from fornication and from what is strangled and from blood." That's it? That's your reason for letting someone bleed to death? Some obscure and irrelavent drivel written by some bronze age ignoramus that had no idea of what a blood transfusion even was? No one just lets people bleed to death. There are many alternatives the JW's use. It is more advanced that the average person knows and understands. Look at the link of bloodless surgery I posted. Look at the blood substitutes that are used. It is rare someone dies from lack of blood. Many times the injuries are just too great for anything but they will say they died from lack of blood. How many people actually die from blood transfusions? More than you know of because it is never listed. It will be listed as something else like a heart attack. But doctors know. Do some research. |
Nine's User ID: 1140990 United States 04/21/2011 03:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And if the medical community would allow seawater transfusions we wouldn't be having all these problems with blood and people dying because they won't accept it. Seawater was experimented with before WWI and many sick people were cured of all sorts of problems. Heck, even coconut water was used in wars to save people. Blood was and still is very dangerous. Leave it to the medical community to keep using blood when there are other alternatives that are also cheaper. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1317855[link to www.google.com] Blood is a body fluid not a SIN, you dipshit. If you lose enough of it, you will die. JWs will inject just about anything into their blood stream if they are bleeding to death, EXCEPT BLOOD. --- Yeah, that's sound scientific reasoning. Now get this, this is the real kicker, THEY ALLOW ORGAN TRANSPLANTS! This is not bullshit. They allow organ transplants but not blood transfusions. These people are a bunch of psychotic bible thumping dupes. Acts 15:20 says, "but that we write to them that they abstain from things contaminated by idols and from fornication and from what is strangled and from blood." That's it? That's your reason for letting someone bleed to death? Some obscure and irrelavent drivel written by some bronze age ignoramus that had no idea of what a blood transfusion even was? It is mind boggling to think there are actually people who have values, who read, believe, and follow the Word of God. Incomprehensible to the lesser of us, isn't it? That said, a person does NOT have to die by not having blood. There are safer alternatives. Google, that bronze age ignoramus, will enlighten you. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1269039 United States 04/21/2011 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And if the medical community would allow seawater transfusions we wouldn't be having all these problems with blood and people dying because they won't accept it. Seawater was experimented with before WWI and many sick people were cured of all sorts of problems. Heck, even coconut water was used in wars to save people. Blood was and still is very dangerous. Leave it to the medical community to keep using blood when there are other alternatives that are also cheaper. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1317855[link to www.google.com] Blood is a body fluid not a SIN, you dipshit. If you lose enough of it, you will die. Read your first sentence again. A body fluid. Even a VET can replace body fluids with blood substitutes.....dipshit. Obviously he didn't read about safer substitutes. Even most doctors won't take blood and go the way of bloodless surgery. They aren't idiots but will push it on others. They have seen how blood can also kill and make someone very sick. So many safer alternatives could be used. But the witnesses can use hemoglobin and blood fractions that are not whole blood. Whole blood is rarely ever used. As I mentioned before, I had a family member die because of a lack of real blood which would have saved him easily. However, they tried all the things you mentioned, but they don't deliver the oxygen that whole blood does, not even close. Furthermore, what fucking religious and moral sense does it make to allow fractions of someone else's real blood, but not their whole blood? What kind of head bangin'bat shit nonsense is that? That's like saying that a hamburger isn't really a hamburger until is has ketchup on it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 616767 United States 04/21/2011 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | religious people can practice whatever they want. They just need to realize that their shit belief is all made up by some ancient person, and accept that. There are some good life teachings in all of them though. A true human can incorporate all those good aspects, and live by his/her own rules. Don't blame God for everything that happens. You are your own God. You are responsible for your own shit. |