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CANADA introduces 99.99% silver coins for circulation. Silver is money.

 
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I got a flier in the mail advertising it and there was a limit to 3 per household.

Hardly money for circulation.
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I just bought 3 coins. One small detail - they added 39 cents HST (Harmonized Sales Tax) to the $ 2.99 shipping charge. So the total comes to $ 63.38.
 Quoting: doomsdays doorstep


WTF is a harmonnized sales tax?!
 Quoting: Carol B.


thats a, bend over and fuck me in the ass dry tax.. they told us it would help the manufactures of goods/services save money and pass the savings on to the consumer but it was all a ponzi scheme from the word go. Some of us saw it, others had no clue what was coming.
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I just bought 3 coins. One small detail - they added 39 cents HST (Harmonized Sales Tax) to the $ 2.99 shipping charge. So the total comes to $ 63.38.
 Quoting: doomsdays doorstep


WTF is a harmonnized sales tax?!
 Quoting: Carol B.


Whats a HST ?! oh you will find out soon enough if you keep left wingers in power
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I just bought 3 coins. One small detail - they added 39 cents HST (Harmonized Sales Tax) to the $ 2.99 shipping charge. So the total comes to $ 63.38.
 Quoting: doomsdays doorstep


WTF is a harmonnized sales tax?!
 Quoting: Carol B.


Whats a HST ?! oh you will find out soon enough if you keep left wingers in power
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 847175


Actually, HST is a product of Harper's Conservatives.
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Canada values silver at $80/CAD per ounce.

Right from the Canadian mint website:

Exchange $20 paper for a $20 pure silver (99.99%) coin


[link to www.mint.ca]

They have a $20 pure silver coin .999 fine. It weighs 1/4 Troy ounce.

Composition 99.99% pure silver
Weight (g) 7.96
Diameter (mm) 27
Edge serrated
Face value 20 dollar
 Quoting: wisc_natureboy


I GOT MINE!!! I LOVE THAT SILVER IS "REAL MONEY"!!!
Buy Gold Buy Silver Buy Ammo have Faith. I carry a gun because it is my 2nd ammendment right, and a cop is too heavy.

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Actually, the HST is a Dalton Mcguinty (premiere of Ontario) thing. Harper is PM on Canada not just Ontario....our 13% tax is a nice gift from the Ontario Liberals.......
the future is doomed?

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I for one would rather have 20$ fiat made from silver than 20$ fiat made from paper. ;-`)
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And you've still only got 120 grains of silver...

I hear what you are saying...I really do...I just don't agree...

IMNSHO, 'Someone' got a better deal on eBay this AM...

[link to www.ebay.com]

That's 40 'silver' halves for $280 and change (including shipping)...

That's 40 x $10.8183243465 (current melt value of 'coin silver'), or $432+ "fiat Dollars" worth of silver content, AND...

It all comes in nice little, easily 'spendable' appx 174-grain bits...

Current melt value:

[link to www.coinflation.com]

Look at your Canuck coins conversely...

Shit never hits the fan?...Then you've got some sweet numismatic value...

But...

You still only have 120 grains of silver though...

In a SHTF scenario, no one is going to care about 'legal tender', or 'denominations'...

It's going to be pure commodity 'value'...

I still say guns, hoes, seeds, land, etc., will be far more valuable than shiny metal chunks, but that's just me...

I hope we (nor our children's children) ever have to find out...

Peace,
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


I actually side with this guy more so than anyone else responding to this thread. You should be stocking up on water above everything else. More than likely when tshtf initially cash on hand will probably be the best thing to have in America. If things don't improve then comes a stage of bartering. This is when what you have to barter becomes a symbol of survival essentially. If you can't survive now on your own without help from the outside world then what do you think will help when tshtf? just saying. Also, more essential survival items will be much more valuable probably than PMs. I can see a period of bartering possibly when guns and ammo will be at the top of the list especially in certain doomsday scenarios. If things get really bad then I think it will take awhile for PMs to really have a lot of value. The key is survival. When tshtf people will probably be more concerned about surviving than PMs, granted, I believe there will come a time a little or long after tshtf when PMs will skyrocket. The main reason I believe this is because we live in a world of technology. PMs help make that technology happen. I don't think technology is going away any time soon even if tshtf.
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silver maple leafs
999.9 pure silver.
$5 face value,bah humbug....
today spot price,you can get a maple for $35-$40.

1 full troy ounce 31 grams.

this crapolla the mint has put out,1/4 ounce for $20
LMAO !!!

what is wrong with this picture!!

although i do agree with OP ,the mint has put a value of $80 an ounce of silver,with the sale of this coin..

but they will tell you its a collectors edition coin....lmao

ok then, and people eat that shit up
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But 1oz silver coins are perfect for "spending" if TSHTF.

excuse me, if the shite hits the fan, the government will confiscate all your coins......and melt them down.......and maybe that is the plan all along, we will see.....all I know is you people are sure pushing gold and silver...
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pre-1964 silver qtrs. and dimes would be better
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This never had a chance of circulating... good start though.
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But 1oz silver coins are perfect for "spending" if TSHTF.

excuse me, if the shite hits the fan, the government will confiscate all your coins......and melt them down.......and maybe that is the plan all along, we will see.....all I know is you people are sure pushing gold and silver...
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pre-1964 silver qtrs. and dimes would be better
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my thoughts as well...
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1: Fearlessness 2: purity of heart 3: Steadfastness 4: Almsgiving 5: Self-restraint 6: Religious rites 7: Right study of the scriptures 8: Self discipline 9: Straightforwardness 10: Noninjury 11: Truth 12: Absense of wrath 13: Renunciation 14: Peace 15: Absence of fault-finding and calumny 16: Compassion toward all beings 17: Noncovetousness, absence of greed 18: Gentleness 19: Modesty 20: Absence of restlessness 21: Radiance of character 22: Forgiveness 23: Patience or fortitude 24: Cleanness of body and purity of mind 25: Nonhatred 26: Lack of conceit
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silver maple leafs
999.9 pure silver.
$5 face value,bah humbug....
today spot price,you can get a maple for $35-$40.

1 full troy ounce 31 grams.

this crapolla the mint has put out,1/4 ounce for $20
LMAO !!!

what is wrong with this picture!!

although i do agree with OP ,the mint has put a value of $80 an ounce of silver,with the sale of this coin..

but they will tell you its a collectors edition coin....lmao

ok then, and people eat that shit up
 Quoting: anti-agenda21


hey dumbass.... the coin is legal tender for $20!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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silver maple leafs
999.9 pure silver.
$5 face value,bah humbug....
today spot price,you can get a maple for $35-$40.

1 full troy ounce 31 grams.

this crapolla the mint has put out,1/4 ounce for $20
LMAO !!!

what is wrong with this picture!!

although i do agree with OP ,the mint has put a value of $80 an ounce of silver,with the sale of this coin..

but they will tell you its a collectors edition coin....lmao

ok then, and people eat that shit up
 Quoting: anti-agenda21


hey dumbass.... the coin is legal tender for $20!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3086672


hey dumb ass
legal tender will not go any higher
infact when silver rises the coin will be worth more than the $20 on the coin. $100 an ounce silver would put that coin at $25....1oz coins would be $100
now you can buy 1 oz coins for $35-40
or you can buy this coin 1 quarter ounce for $20

go ahead and buy the coin ...
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Quit your bickering. Buy it.

It is a triple hedge.

Fiat value- costs and spends exactly the same as paper.
Numismatic value- save it and don't touch it, hope it grows in value due to limited mintage.
Silver value- Inherent value in the .25 troy oz. ASW.

Show me a piece of paper that can boast that!

Derp, all you dumbed-down tards who would even argue the negative here.

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This is a collector's item only hence more risky.
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This is a collector's item only hence more risky.
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How is it risky?

It cost 20$CDN, and spends 20$CDN.
That is ZERO risk.
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On Saturday, Dec. 8, 2012, Liberty's Hammer and Anvil will broadcast at 3 PM Eastern, 2 PM Central, 1 PM Mountain, and Noon Pacific, and you may listen here:

[link to www.themicroeffect.com]

To listen, go to the Microeffect website, look on the left sidebar for the “listen live” links and click.

My guest will be Phil Hart and the discussion will focus on the federal income tax. Phil is the author of the book discussed here:

[link to www.constitutionalincome.com]

This will be a very interesting show, so tune in!!!

Larry Becraft


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Not mentioned in Mr. Becraft's message is the further information that Phil Hart was a representative from Athol Idaho in 2010 and had introduced a bill to provide for silver coinage.

[link to duckduckgo.com (secure)]

It passed the House, but failed in the Senate.

Here is an April 2011 story:
[link to www.scribd.com]

You can learn more about basic philosophy and theoretical approaches to the topic of money systems here: Thread: Get rid of the money system, then get rid of goverrments
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A GLP AC is over visiting, and I am bumping this for him. ;-`)


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I hope you're sleeping with one eye open, and a weapon under your pillow...
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A GLP AC is over visiting, and I am bumping this for him. ;-`)

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I hope you're sleeping with one eye open, and a weapon under your pillow...
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I just bought 3 coins. One small detail - they added 39 cents HST (Harmonized Sales Tax) to the $ 2.99 shipping charge. So the total comes to $ 63.38.
 Quoting: doomsdays doorstep


WTF is a harmonnized sales tax?!
 Quoting: Carol B.


a VAT tax us stupid canadians allowed the corrupt government to put upon the nation, except BC they are not flouridated so they couldnt slip it past them
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Looks like a "grey" ET paddling a canoe.
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They sell them all the time, you gotta keep checking the website, it's a 3 per person limit but some of the local coin stores do the same deal but 1 per customer (they check id), so you can get more then 3.

I've got 30 or 40 total all different kinds of the $20 for $20.. I figure it's an good thing to hold since the face value is $20 it can't go under that and IF silver does happen to explode above $100 as many are predicting the silver value will be more.

There's also the numismatic value as many of you pointed out they seem to go for a lot more when sold on places like ebay, them selling out at the mint also does this.

They are probably the closest value as far as weight vs face value, but for cost vs weight value there are some better ones. I like 1/25 gold coins.

I also picked up a bunch of $0.01 gold coins (tribute coins to the penny), the only gold pennies ever minted. They sold out pretty quickly, I'm excited to see how much they are selling on ebay for
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silver maple leafs
999.9 pure silver.
$5 face value,bah humbug....
today spot price,you can get a maple for $35-$40.

1 full troy ounce 31 grams.

this crapolla the mint has put out,1/4 ounce for $20
LMAO !!!

what is wrong with this picture!!

although i do agree with OP ,the mint has put a value of $80 an ounce of silver,with the sale of this coin..

but they will tell you its a collectors edition coin....lmao

ok then, and people eat that shit up
 Quoting: anti-agenda21


It's got a face value of $20 and it costs $20..You seem to miss the point, you can't lose. Instead of PAPER money they are offering you a form of money that carries INTRINSIC value.
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Its not offically MONEY until it has been minted by some government's mint, satifying the quality of the metal as well as the purity, density, and weight and size. Its alloy checked and triple checked to be what it has been claimed to be. Until then it is not worth the metal it is stamped out of.

Is all about BELIEF.

Even paper has an Intrinstic value.
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$80CDN (that's $76.19US as of this minute) for an ounce of silver that is trading at $30US today?

Oh yeah...

Great 'deal'...

chuckle
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


$20 paper bill worth 2.3 cents or $20 silver coin. I'd say it's the fucking deal of the century if you can trade more or less straight up.
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You can't circulate a 99.9 silver coin. It's too soft. So that part is just empty words. Whose?

Just curious if the mint is saying it's for circulation or just internet buzz.

Anyway, it's great that Canada has another silver coin.
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The Perversion of Money

THE ERRONEOUS conception of the proper
status and true function of money has led to
its perversion, the evil result of which is so
clearly evidenced by our present banking system.
In this volume I undertake to prove the following
propositions:

1st. Money is not a commodity. This being
true:

2nd. Money is no part of wealth. Hence:

3rd. Money can never become capital. Not
being capital:

4th. Money has no earning power. And it
follows:

5th. Interest, or profit, on money is unearned.

6th. Gold and silver, in common with lead and
zinc, are commodities.


7th. Money is something entirely different.

It has no more natural connection with gold and silver
than it has with lead and zinc.
We must not confuse
money with the commodity which may be chosen as its
tangible vehicle.

8th. Money is the medium of exchange and the
measure of value ; a convenient and exact method
of book-keeping
; and only as such does it properly
function.

9th. Money is brought into existence by law.

10th. A commodity cannot be created by law.
All that a law can do is to function as a law.

11th. No individual, nor body of individuals,
should be permitted to own or control a function of
law and charge others a tax for its use.

12th. The government is the true depositary
of the law and the proper executive of its functions.

13th. These powers are usurped by the bankers
and money-lenders, and the evil results of this usurpation
are colossal ; they will disrupt and destroy
civilization unless a remedy be applied.

14th. The remedy.

- Frederick Raphael Burch
 Quoting: Malden


Correct; The material quoted was written and published in 1922. It is available as an image file that can be read online here: [link to babel.hathitrust.org]

and also here: [link to www.archive.org]

This is the preface to the book. The whole thing is 129 pages.
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The Hathi Trust site will convert the series of images into a PDF file that can be downloaded. The downloaded file is 145 pages and 38.25 megabytes in size.

I am scan-reading the file now and may in the future covert via OCR etc into a word doc and/or pdf that will be much smaller. Depends on how I evaluate the book.
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I believe its been mentioned;
Buy silver
buy paper


for the least, hold all coinage,
it is the only lawfull us money.


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