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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1372893 United States 05/06/2011 03:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you believe in the bible, you would have to believe that there is a people that are the true jews of the bible. Because in revelation it talks about those that call themselves jews but are not.So this let us know that there are true jews out there, because we do have those in the land of the middle east calling themselves jews, but they are not, because the bible says they are not. So what we need to do is go back to the bible and find out who the real jews are. The bible said that Abraham was from Ur of the Chaldees.Abraham's wife, which was his sister, also was a Chaldean.So this would mean their son Isaac was also a Chaldean.God called Abraham his friend, not his son. The bible says that God redeemed Abraham when God called Abraham out from among his people. The Chaldeans were no saints, read your bible.Ishmael was Abraham's first born son,he was also not a Chaldean, nor was he an Egyptain. Ishmael was a new nation coming into the earth called jews. Ishmael was just like the priesthood which Moses set up. He did not belong to no one tribe, but then again he was from all tribes.God did bot give him any land, but then he was from every land. A person that do not belong to one race or another can bring all races togather.Because all races are in him. Is that not what it says in revelation about Jesus, that he was from every tribe kindred and people? Jesus also said all that came before him were thieves. They only thought about themselves and their race of people. |
dani815 User ID: 1556955 United States 09/19/2011 03:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I spent some time researching these guys, and unfortunately the idea that they are saying God favors the blacks and hispanics (and basically all brown people except those that identify as Muslims and those that identify as African ie. those who didn't get to the Americas through slave ships) is not true. I watched a few of their videos because I was pretty much incredulous, and they are basically preaching that the Chosen people are the true jewish people and their true jewish people are only chosen to do one thing, lead others to the truth of Christ and away from religions. Meaning, anyone is not the blacks or hispanics (and all i listed above) can also be saved if they accept Christ in his true name (which i also researched) and reject religion but embrace the true word of God, and not the interpretations of man and abide by the commandments, all of them (including things like not eating pork, observing the true Sabbath, etc.) Maybe the problem is hearing that these chosen people are no longer what we consider the Jewish people or white jewish people who do not embrace anyone into their fold nor do they even know what they are even supposed to be chosen for, but instead like the bible said the least of these or people who have been the most poverty stricken the most un powerful, the most criminal and criminalized, or removed from their heritage as the bible does say will happen to the children of Israel. Even though mainstream America at large still holds up pictures of the white Jesus, it's clear he really couldn't have been white based on where they were located (in the hot middle east and northern africa) and the description of how he looked in the bible (you can also check out a book called Josephus who describes Christ and lived during that time). And you can google Cesare Borgia for info on the fact that this man is the face we are using as Jesus. But even better than that, there are statues and painting around the world (mostly in Europe) of people worshiping a black "Jesus" and praying to a black Mary with a baby. I think it's very interesting what the "establishment" has done to us, that it is considered almost laughable that the true jewish people would be black or Hispanic, that "Jesus" was actually black (as well as Adam and Eve, Moses, Abraham, Issac and Jacob, plus all the great men of the bible), but it's easier to accept (due to the current fact that most of our leaders except Ughbama who isn't a leader anyway but a puppet) are white. I believe it's a racism that was put on us by the establishment as a diversionary tactic. If schools taught the original jewish people (and their current descendants) are black, think of the different way our society would be right now. Instead of denying racism or getting upset every time you hear about alleged "race riots" or feeling fear when you pass certain people on the street or end up in the wrong neighborhoods there would be more unity. However the bible did predict that the children of Israel wouldn't know their own names, speak their native tongue, be removed from their lands until peace was returned to the earth (and there is none now, so how do we explain the current occupation of the Jewish people in Israel), or even know the name of their God (if you read the Tanukh it will give you the actual name of god, or you can Google it, he said it to Moses). |
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Godssoldierofnwk User ID: 4376020 United States 05/08/2012 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are nothing but a religious cult.me and my brother were a part of their church in new York until they kicked us out because we questioned alot of things.they are controlling and if you challenge them with serious questions they will get rid of you quick,have everyone come against you and claim they don't know you.they are all about getting money and the leader rawchaashayar is known for seducing sisters of the church into sex with him.also by me exposing them they got my YouTube channel terminated.they are a bunch of crooks and liars.ive asked them many times for an open debate and they refuse to give me one,but these are guys who claim they have the truth but will never defend it.stay away from them don't get caught up in that mess.[youtube] |
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Shamayam-ahwar User ID: 18040140 United States 06/16/2012 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Shalam,these brothers are teaching truth straight out the bible.If you believe in the KJV then why is it so hard to believe what it sais point blank.I also belong to this body but not in NY, I'm in Tx, and if you take some time out and read that bible as it is written and ask the Most High for understanding then the truth will be revealed to you.May the Most High bless you all.Shalam |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18032488 Ireland 06/16/2012 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Descriptions of Yeshua . Funny , no mention of him having black skin . The Description of Publius Lentullus The following was taken from a manuscript in the possession of Lord Kelly, and in his library, and was copied from an original letter of Publius Lentullus at Rome. It being the usual custom of Roman Governors to advertise the Senate and people of such material things as happened in their provinces in the days of Tiberius Caesar, Publius Lentullus, President of Judea, wrote the following epistle to the Senate concerning the Nazarene called Jesus. "There appeared in these our days a man, of the Jewish Nation, of great virtue, named Yeshua [Jesus], who is yet living among us, and of the Gentiles is accepted for a Prophet of truth, but His own disciples call Him the Son of God- He raiseth the dead and cureth all manner of diseases. A man of stature somewhat tall, and comely, with very reverent countenance, such as the beholders may both love and fear, his hair of (the colour of) the chestnut, full ripe, plain to His ears, whence downwards it is more orient and curling and wavering about His shoulders. In the midst of His head is a seam or partition in His hair, after the manner of the Nazarenes. His forehead plain and very delicate; His face without spot or wrinkle, beautified with a lovely red; His nose and mouth so formed as nothing can be reprehended; His beard thickish, in colour like His hair, not very long, but forked; His look innocent and mature; His eyes grey, clear, and quick- In reproving hypocrisy He is terrible; in admonishing, courteous and fair spoken; pleasant in conversation, mixed with gravity. It cannot be remembered that any have seen Him Laugh, but many have seen Him Weep. In proportion of body, most excellent; His hands and arms delicate to behold. In speaking, very temperate, modest, and wise. A man, for His singular beauty, surpassing the children of men" [link to www.thenazareneway.com] Interesting how they say that his race is red . Strong's Hebrew Lexicon Search Results Result of search for "adam": 119 'adam aw-dam' to show blood (in the face), i.e. flush or turn rosy:--be (dyed, made) red (ruddy). 120 'adam aw-dawm' from 119; ruddy i.e. a human being (an individual or the species, mankind, etc.):--X another, + hypocrite, + common sort, X low, man (mean, of low degree), person. 121 'Adam aw-dawm' the same as 120; Adam the name of the first man, also of a place in Palestine:--Adam. 1893 Hebel heh'-bel the same as 1892; Hebel, the son of Adam:--Abel. 5731 `Eden ay'-den the same as 5730 (masculine); Eden, the region of Adam's home:--Eden. 8352 Sheth shayth from 7896; put, i.e. substituted; Sheth, third son of Adam:--Seth, Sheth. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18032488 Ireland 06/16/2012 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are delusional is what they are . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18032488 Descriptions of Yeshua . Funny , no mention of him having black skin . The Description of Publius Lentullus The following was taken from a manuscript in the possession of Lord Kelly, and in his library, and was copied from an original letter of Publius Lentullus at Rome. It being the usual custom of Roman Governors to advertise the Senate and people of such material things as happened in their provinces in the days of Tiberius Caesar, Publius Lentullus, President of Judea, wrote the following epistle to the Senate concerning the Nazarene called Jesus. "There appeared in these our days a man, of the Jewish Nation, of great virtue, named Yeshua [Jesus], who is yet living among us, and of the Gentiles is accepted for a Prophet of truth, but His own disciples call Him the Son of God- He raiseth the dead and cureth all manner of diseases. A man of stature somewhat tall, and comely, with very reverent countenance, such as the beholders may both love and fear, his hair of (the colour of) the chestnut, full ripe, plain to His ears, whence downwards it is more orient and curling and wavering about His shoulders. In the midst of His head is a seam or partition in His hair, after the manner of the Nazarenes. His forehead plain and very delicate; His face without spot or wrinkle, beautified with a lovely red; His nose and mouth so formed as nothing can be reprehended; His beard thickish, in colour like His hair, not very long, but forked; His look innocent and mature; His eyes grey, clear, and quick- In reproving hypocrisy He is terrible; in admonishing, courteous and fair spoken; pleasant in conversation, mixed with gravity. It cannot be remembered that any have seen Him Laugh, but many have seen Him Weep. In proportion of body, most excellent; His hands and arms delicate to behold. In speaking, very temperate, modest, and wise. A man, for His singular beauty, surpassing the children of men" [link to www.thenazareneway.com] Interesting how they say that his race is red . Strong's Hebrew Lexicon Search Results Result of search for "adam": 119 'adam aw-dam' to show blood (in the face), i.e. flush or turn rosy:--be (dyed, made) red (ruddy). 120 'adam aw-dawm' from 119; ruddy i.e. a human being (an individual or the species, mankind, etc.):--X another, + hypocrite, + common sort, X low, man (mean, of low degree), person. 121 'Adam aw-dawm' the same as 120; Adam the name of the first man, also of a place in Palestine:--Adam. 1893 Hebel heh'-bel the same as 1892; Hebel, the son of Adam:--Abel. 5731 `Eden ay'-den the same as 5730 (masculine); Eden, the region of Adam's home:--Eden. 8352 Sheth shayth from 7896; put, i.e. substituted; Sheth, third son of Adam:--Seth, Sheth. [link to www.thenazareneway.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18032488 Ireland 06/16/2012 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are filthy thieves is what they are , stealing other peoples heritage and they will account to God for it . May God humble them ! Thread: Descriptions of Yeshua . Funny , no mention of him having black skin . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15359896 United States 06/16/2012 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Okay, I admit I don't know much about this stuff but I thought the reason that there is all these begats and then more begat who was to show lineage and that is why knowing your lineage for some jewish (if not all) is important all the way back, to prove you're jewish without the ish. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11029560 United States 06/27/2012 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was just wondering if anyone has an opinion on these guys? They've been getting pretty known around my area in New York. Basically these guys believe that they (blacks and Hispanics)are all a part of the true tribes of Israel and that they are the real true jewish people. According to them god favors them over white people (the children of Easu as they say) and the Jewish people that we know today are not really the real jewish people, which is why they call themselves JewISH, according to them. Weird stuff to me, tell me what you think. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1293012 |
sdavis User ID: 20546517 United States 07/25/2012 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AHAYAH ESHER AHAYAH BASHEM YASHYA IS OUR LORD AND SAVIOR GOCC IS ABSOLUTLY CORRECT. MY HUSBAND AND I FOLLOW ALL OF YOUR VIDEOS AND READ THE BIBLE CONSTANTLY WERE NOW REALIZING THE WICKED WORLD WERE LIVING IN AND WOULD LIKE NOTHING MORE BUT TO GET TO KNOW OUR FATHER MORE, THE CORRECT WAY. MY HUSBAND SPEAKS OF YOU ALL THE TIME HE EVEN HOLDS HIS OWN MEETINGS AND TEACH TO ANYONE HE POSSIBLY CAN. HE WOULD LOVE TO GET IN CONTACT WITH YOU AND JOIN YOUR CHURCH. WERE 19 YEARS OLD AND DEDICATED TO THE MOST HIGH. WE WOULD LOVE TO LEARN FROM YOU BROTHER. PLEASE WRITE BACK WITH SOME CONTACT INFORMATION, WERE IN THE END TIMES AND WE NEED TO SAVE OUR PEOPLE. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22555696 United States 09/22/2012 07:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These brother's are the truth do your own research & you will see you have been lied 2!!!! Quoting: rere 7301244 I'm so glad I saw the GOCC videos before reading this thread. Anybody can post that they are wrong in their teaching, but I've yet to see anyone post here how they are wrong. (using the Bible to prove all things) The GOCC uses the KJV Bible to prove what they teach. |
loosegoose User ID: 16739934 United States 09/22/2012 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's not true and its over Gentiles, you need to get your fact straight and read the bible. They are Hebrew Israelites not JEWISH. Well anyway what do expect WHite people was to believe that black people was hammites and erase African Americans history from them. At least they telling the truth and not no fake White History Crap. loosegoose |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22787868 Canada 10/06/2012 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was just wondering if anyone has an opinion on these guys? They've been getting pretty known around my area in New York. Basically these guys believe that they (blacks and Hispanics)are all a part of the true tribes of Israel and that they are the real true Jews. According to them god favors them over white people (the children of Easu as they say) and the Jewish people that we know today are not really the real Jews, which is why they call themselves JewISH, according to them. Weird stuff to me, tell me what you think. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1293012 They are toast! Anyone who says that Christ is not God is going to hell. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24358110 United States 10/06/2012 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BS attitude. The true childred of God are those that chose him. TRIBES and RACES and body types have nothing to do with it. OP you know better, inside you do. The body is but a temple to hold the soul during the journeys to WISDOM. Enough already. YOU ARE YOUR MIND, not your body. "God" is in fact the whole creation. OF what you are a part. time to stop being dumb. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5221698 United States 11/18/2012 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AHAYAH ESHER AHAYAH BASHEM YASHYA IS OUR LORD AND SAVIOR GOCC IS ABSOLUTLY CORRECT. MY HUSBAND AND I FOLLOW ALL OF YOUR VIDEOS AND READ THE BIBLE CONSTANTLY WERE NOW REALIZING THE WICKED WORLD WERE LIVING IN AND WOULD LIKE NOTHING MORE BUT TO GET TO KNOW OUR FATHER MORE, THE CORRECT WAY. MY HUSBAND SPEAKS OF YOU ALL THE TIME HE EVEN HOLDS HIS OWN MEETINGS AND TEACH TO ANYONE HE POSSIBLY CAN. HE WOULD LOVE TO GET IN CONTACT WITH YOU AND JOIN YOUR CHURCH. WERE 19 YEARS OLD AND DEDICATED TO THE MOST HIGH. WE WOULD LOVE TO LEARN FROM YOU BROTHER. PLEASE WRITE BACK WITH SOME CONTACT INFORMATION, WERE IN THE END TIMES AND WE NEED TO SAVE OUR PEOPLE. Quoting: sdavis 20546517 Hands down the BEST CHURCH around. These guys are giving TRUTH! And they respect all people, Jews and Gentiles alike. |
Halima User ID: 3280976 United States 02/01/2013 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These brothers are the straight up truth... Religion is man made to cause diversion between the Most high and satan. So before you go bashing these brothers, take a lil time out and research what they're saying...matter of fact just research for yourself whats in the bible..... as the bible says you have to study for self to show approved, and once youve researched you would find that these brothers make alot of sense and what they're saying is in the KVJ.. opposed to what your pastors and priests do, which is cherry pick scriptures and have you practice things that are abominable to the Most High... DO THE MATH |
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ReadMadbooks User ID: 30505267 United States 02/02/2013 01:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These brothers are the straight up truth... Religion is man made to cause divedon't n between the Most high and satan. So before you go bashing these brothers, take a lil time out and research what they're saying...matter of fact just research for yourself whats in the bible..... as the bible says you have to study for self to show approved, and once youve researched you would find that these brothers make alot of sense and what they're saying is in the KVJ.. opposed to what your pastors and priests do, which is cherry pick scriptures and have you practice things that are abominable to the Most High... DO THE MATH Quoting: Halima 3280976 Wtf you just dumbed it down..self research and unbiased research can teach you to stay away from cults like this.lmao In modern times we dont go to the KJV for answers..we don't need for school, to explain botony or to explain geneology and shit we don't need the book for nothing but to talk shit...do your research about the origins of this church and their main leader.. Learn about GMs and upk and all the nonsense the early groups use to teach...they get you if your believer and lack black history knowledge and lack occult knowledge. They are no different from your pastor.. Be your own damn pastor..you don't need the gocc for truth for they have no truth...and I am not hating. From a fellow literature and science loving person.. These cults are awful and do harm to the freethinker...riddle me how can you have the truth and we in the last days?? How ahayah loves when it caused it? Understand what you religion implies....gocc and like minded groups are no scholars or academics So why in the world will they know ''Truth'' or many truths of life.....they worship a bible not truth. |
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Ordinary Citizen© User ID: 33542286 United States 02/03/2013 07:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These brother's are the truth do your own research & you will see you have been lied 2!!!! Quoting: rere 7301244 I'm so glad I saw the GOCC videos before reading this thread. Anybody can post that they are wrong in their teaching, but I've yet to see anyone post here how they are wrong. (using the Bible to prove all things) The GOCC uses the KJV Bible to prove what they teach. This is how they are wrong: IHUH* is the Creator. Take a little time and research the origins of the letter "Y" and the letter "I". The letter "I" derives from the Hebrew letter "yod", the first letter in IHUH (yod-hey-uau-hay). As incorrectly stated above, Exodus 3:14 does not declare the name of the Creator, but rather merely states His power. He declares his name in the very next verse: *Exodus 3:15 : And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, [IHUH alahi] of your fathers, the [alahi] of Abraham, the [alahi] of Isaac, and the [alahi] of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this [is] my name for ever, and this [is] my memorial unto all generations. The above site (omitted) unfortunantely relies upon the jewish concepts that are designed to direct his people away from IHUH's (pronounced "Iahu"), true name of the Most High. The j - e - w worships the moon deity called "yahweh" and also misconstrues the Creator's name as "jehovah". Furthermore, transliterating IHUH's name as "jehovah" (note the "v" --"vee" sound-- and the "j" both came into use in the 14th and 15th centuries A.D.; the "j" still is not found in the Hebrew) is part of a conspiracy (my fellow glpers will love this): Psa 83:3 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones. Psa 83:4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from [being] a nation; that the name of Israel ("Isharal") may be no more in remembrance. Psa 83:5 For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:... That chapter goes on to list the conspirators beginning with Edom, the descendants of e s a u: Need more proof?! Scripture tells us that IHUH's people will be called by his name: 2Ch 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land. IHUH particularly called out his prophets by his name: Isa 45:4 For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me. Isa 45:5 I [am] IHUH, and [there is] none else, [there is] no god beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: Isa 45:6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that [there is] none beside me. I [am] IHUH, and [there is] none else. Isa 44:5 One shall say, I [am] IHUH'S; and another shall call [himself] by the name of Jacob; and another shall subscribe [with] his hand unto IHUH, and surname [himself] by the name of Israel. Now, consider the names of the prophets and others in the Scriptures which are witnesses to the the Most High's name listed first in english then in Hebrew: 2Sa 12:25 And he sent by the hand of Nathan the prophet; and he called his name Jedidiah ( "Ididiah"), because of IHUH. Isaiah/Ishaihu Jeremiah/Iramihu Joshua/Ihushe Abiah/Abihu Elijah/Alihu --check out how the jewish translater had to at least admit the more accurate transliteration form "Yahu" Ahijah/Achihu Atsaliyahu/Atsalihu Judah/Ihudah Micah/Micihu For an exhaustive list of a few (157) of the names containing "Yah(u)" or more accurately "Iah(u)" look here: [link to www.blueletterbible.org] You will not find any verses where IHUH refers to his name as "ahayah asher ahayah", rather that is an attribute just as is the terms "of host" or "the most high" etc. But those terms are not his name. There is no instances were his people are called "ahyah". Or where IHUH says his name is "ahayah asher ahayah". In the meantime, here are a few verses where he states his name is IHUH (I have replaced the pagan name --the capitalized "lord" or "god"--with IHUH as reflected in the Hebrew): Gen 4:26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of IHUH. Gen 15:7 And he said unto him (Abraham), I [am] IHUH that brought thee out of Ur of the Chaldees, to give thee this land to inherit it. Exd 6:6 Wherefore say unto the children of Israel, I [am] IHUH, and I will bring you out from under the burdens of the Egyptians, and I will rid you out of their bondage, and I will redeem you with a stretched out arm, and with great judgments: Lev 18:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, I am IHUH your alahim. Mal 3:6 For I [am] IHUH, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed. The exact phrase "I am the LORD" with the lord meaning "IHUH" according to the Hebrew appears over 300 times from Genesis to Malachi. I will end with a few of my favorite references to the Most High: Exd 15:3 IHUH [is] a man of war: IHUH [is] his name. Exd 20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of IHUH thy god ("alahi") in vain; for IHUH will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33569884 United States 02/03/2013 08:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do you call it religious racism? That in itself is a racist statement. So, you mean to say it's ok as long as everyone believes there were Caucasian people in the Middle East and Africa 2000 years ago? LOL There were people of all races and nationalities in that area at that time. Ever hear of the Roman Empire? That ruled over Egypt, modern day Libya and the Middle East, including Israel? There were Europeans, Arabs, Africans, Israelites... even Asian and Indian traders along the trade routes. |
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