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Radiation may be spreading but you can't talk about it

 
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you'll just be a gaijin clown to laugh at during drunken parties.


Better live it up at the parties in Japan while you can, the place is going down like the Titanic.
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Carcinogenic Risks:

[link to www.frankmckinnon.com]

or

[link to toxnet.nlm.nih.gov]

Freezing milk and cream for 14-21 days,before use will
dramatically reduce radioactive strontium, Cesium and
Iodine levels to acceptability allowing them sufficient time to vastly decay.

> QWhat would be the radiation effects in children exposed to high doses of
> 137Cs and at what dose levels (MBq?) would these effects become
> significant?
> ACesium-137 from fallout and from the accident at the Chornobyl nuclear
> power plant can become incorporated in man mainly by ingesting meat from
> caribou and reindeer that ingest fallout on vegetation such as lichens.
> Other routes of intake for cesium include bread, eggs, leafy vegetables,
> root vegetables, milk, poultry, fish, and fruits. Ingested cesium has a
> short biological half-time in man (about 80 to 110 days in adults), but an
> even shorter half-time in children (57 days) and infants (19 days). The
> average amount of 137Cs in our bodies from all sources in the environment
> and all food that we eat is about 20 picocuries per gram (or 20 nanocuries
> per kilogram) at equilibrium between intake and excretion, which gives an
> annual internal radiation dose to the whole body of about 0.4 mrem per
> year. In S.I. units, 0.74 Bq per gram as background 137Cs results in a
> whole-body dose of about 0.000004 Sv or 0.004 mSv per year. According to
> studies with laboratory animals, the effects of high intakes of 137Cs
> include most of the typical biological effects of radiation poisoning. The
> studies on beagle dogs that ingested food containing 137Cs involved total
> radiation doses of 700 to 1100 rem (7 to 11 Sv). Whole-body doses of
> concern for short-term effects (such as chromosome aberrations in blood
> cells) could be seen at doses as low as about 25 rem (0.25 Sv). This dose
> level would correspond to an equilibrium deposition of about 1.25
> microcuries 137Cs per gram or 46,000 Bq per gram (46 KBq/g) in the body.
> Effects would be more life-threatening at whole-body doses of 1 to 5 Sv (a
> factor of 4 to 20 higher).
>
> Darrell Fisher, PhD
> Posted 28 December 2000
>
> Some of the exposed individuals showed signs of acute radiation syndrome,
> such as nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea. A large number of the individuals
> with acute radiation syndrome developed bone marrow failure and 4 of these
> died. Dermal injuries observed among the exposed individuals ranged from
> radiation dermatitis to severe radiation injuries leading to an
> amputation. Ocular and reproductive effects were also reported. Two
> incidents of external exposure to radiation from Cs-137 have demonstrated
> that serious adverse effects may also be expected when individuals are
> exposed only externally to high levels of radiation from Cs-137. In 1997
> it was discovered that military recruits had been accidentally exposed to
> several sealed Cs-137 radioactive sources at a training facility in Lilo,
> Republic of Georgia. Nausea, weakness, headaches, and loss of appetite
> were the most commonly reported symptoms among the exposed recruits.
> Vomiting was reported by three of the patients, two of whom received the
> highest estimated doses. The exposures of the recruits occurred over
> several months. Although accurate information on the duration of the
> exposure was not available, doses were estimated by scoring unstable
> chromosome aberrations in peripheral blood lymphocytes and by electron
> spin resonance dosimetry of teeth of the exposed individuals. The
> estimated mean doses ranged from 0.2 to 5.9 Gy (The radiological event at
> Lilo. International Atomic Energy Agency (2000). Vienna). In 1994, several
> individuals (aged 13 to 78) were exposed to a sealed Cs-137 source stolen
> from a waste repository in Tammiku, Estonia. The observed health effects
> in the exposed individuals ranged from a relatively mild case of radiation
> sickness to death. Solid state dosimetry techniques were applied for
> reconstruction of the doses of several individuals exposed in the house
> where the stolen Cs-137 source was kept. The estimated whole body
> radiation doses ranged from 0.1 Gy to 4 Gy.
Anonymous Coward
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04/24/2011 12:03 AM
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i dont hate the Japanese, in fact im going to be honest with you, take my advice, get out of japan, and come to england!
you are in great danger, and your government is lying to you about it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1353763


You gonna pay my mortgage? my bills? You gonna educate my children because ill have to pull them out of school.
Do you have a place for my family to stay, ill be bringing about 20 odd with me, 3 of them in their 90s.
Im booked with clients till mid August, shall i just refund them all and tell them a dude on the internet told me to be a coward and run from something that frankly doesn't exist.

The prime minister goes on Tv on regular basis and says"hey, we got a level 7 nuclear crisis here", its hardly a fucking lie, is it?

problem is, you little bitches want more death and destruction, 30,000 missing or dead isn't enough for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1353760

what a fuckin retarded idiot you are. read the links idiot.
shut the fuck up you hysterical moron. the guy is saying that the japanese gov. has set up teams to erase any info that differs from what tepco and the gov are saying, and he is correct. THE EVIDENCE IS THERE. the links are attached idiot. fuckin read them dweeb. they are sensoring the truth. its morons like you that stop the flow of precious information that is essential to survival. im in japan too fuck wad. there are children here going to schools that are not safe to attend and they will get at the least lukemia. this is guaranteed. the gov is not releasing info idiot. its simple math. the gov. is sensoring this information. morons like you are helping them so go fuckin crawl back in your hole moron. youve embarresed yourself, your family and your ancestors go commit seppuku, jump in front of a train whatever just shut the fuck up cause your a moron.
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Shouldn't you be making the next pokemon game.....banzaiiiiiiiiii.
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i dont hate the Japanese, in fact im going to be honest with you, take my advice, get out of japan, and come to england!
you are in great danger, and your government is lying to you about it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1353763


You gonna pay my mortgage? my bills? You gonna educate my children because ill have to pull them out of school.
Do you have a place for my family to stay, ill be bringing about 20 odd with me, 3 of them in their 90s.
Im booked with clients till mid August, shall i just refund them all and tell them a dude on the internet told me to be a coward and run from something that frankly doesn't exist.

The prime minister goes on Tv on regular basis and says"hey, we got a level 7 nuclear crisis here", its hardly a fucking lie, is it?

problem is, you little bitches want more death and destruction, 30,000 missing or dead isn't enough for you.
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These are all valid concerns, in my personal opinion, except for the bit about "coward". Nobody's acting like a coward there, with the possible exception of those institutions that would try to censor information.

It is not cowardly to run away from radiation. It is something you can hardly fight if it's in the air, the water, the food. Courage has nothing to do with it, and it's invisible.

Don't follow the "fight or flight" mentality. This is not something you can fight, so that isn't the choice. It's stay or go, and that should depend on data, and it's disturbing that the government has announced a policy to crack down on data as they choose.

I don't know if it's deadly or not, but you wouldn't know by taste or smell or appearance, so your informational advantage in being there on the scene is not so large.
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i dont hate the Japanese, in fact im going to be honest with you, take my advice, get out of japan, and come to england!
you are in great danger, and your government is lying to you about it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1353763


You gonna pay my mortgage? my bills? You gonna educate my children because ill have to pull them out of school.
Do you have a place for my family to stay, ill be bringing about 20 odd with me, 3 of them in their 90s.
Im booked with clients till mid August, shall i just refund them all and tell them a dude on the internet told me to be a coward and run from something that frankly doesn't exist.

The prime minister goes on Tv on regular basis and says"hey, we got a level 7 nuclear crisis here", its hardly a fucking lie, is it?

problem is, you little bitches want more death and destruction, 30,000 missing or dead isn't enough for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1353760


Your sense of National Loyalty does not alter the Physical Facts of this serious disaster. Perhaps your inability or unwillingness to accept and deal with those facts are the most pressing problem for you and your family. Regardless of your perspective, Alex has a right to his opinion. If fact many of us around the world appreciate his concern and passion about this issue.

Remember you as a Citizen of Japanese can deny anything you wish, however the physical evidence collected on the shores and in the air of California are the deciding factor. Japan as a Nation is ethically (and Legally) responsible for the harm derived from this disaster. I do not refer to it as an accident because there were elements of accepted risk far beyond a prudent level exercised by your Nation of Japan. "Suck it up" and accept the reality of the situation for which it is. Now is the time to work together to minimize the harm to your Nation and the World at large.

Having stated all this I want to assure you we in America are not going to abandon your Nation. The People of America will never abandon the People of Japan. Our governments may have their own issues between them but not us, the peoples of our Nations. Be realistic about the situation there and let us know how we can help. We too will experience the consequences of this new Radiation in our environment. It's not Japan's problem alone.
 Quoting: DataSponge


This American agrees with part of that comment, but disagrees about blame. Japan is not at fault. This was the worst natural disaster in recorded history. Would Diablo Canyon have done better in similar circumstances? Even if Stuxnet appears to have been involved too?

It's not GE's fault either. Any reactor, BWR or PWR, needs cooling water. If you run your car engine without oil and it fails, is it the engine manufacturer's fault? Nope.

America does not seem to be standing too firmly with the Japanese. I don't know what is going on, but the fact I do know is that our navy cleared out pretty fast. It seems maybe China is more involved. It's complicated, it seems.
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04/24/2011 01:37 AM
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this dude has no clue what hes talking about, no wonder the government want him to shut up.

honestly, if things are so bad, why is he still here? Maybe hes just desperate for youtube ratings.
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hello again shill, aint you coming back over to the other thread.. we miss you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1353763


dont fucking shill me asshole....

can i give you an example of the situation?

Im going to tell you what the weather is like in the UK today.Even though ive never been there and your sitting there.If your my opinion on your weather differs from my opinion then im calling you out as a shill because i think your talking bullshit.

fuck you ass hole! im here in japan, i can see the lies on the internet...this french little dick head is one of them.

Its clear he hates the japanese and he hates the japanese government, but hes quiet happy make himself a guest in our country and make youtube videos everyday dissing the place.If things are so deadly, why hasnt he got the fuck out of Japan?

and your calling me a fucking shill.
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+++++10000 that's ichiman
It is regrettable
every time someone tries to tell another story besides the doomy gloomy ...must be a shill


;)

Look... There are segments of the J-pop Population that are worse than Lemmings... When it is time to get everyone to jump don't you think that there are people here who will say the right words?

....all the armchair doom-enthusiasts around the world should be looking at what's going on right in front of your own face.

Y'all don' seem to think it is a bit unusual that your local authorities and media experts very quickly blame all your "background radiation" and elevated radio-isotope counts on Japan?

I assure you... your radiation exposure has been already high before this accident.

look at this:

[link to d3fjco7hozu03c.cloudfront.net]

one of the passengers farts loudly they all goona squeez out a sekrut one too...

don'ch'a think?
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04/24/2011 03:26 AM
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this dude has no clue what hes talking about, no wonder the government want him to shut up.

honestly, if things are so bad, why is he still here? Maybe hes just desperate for youtube ratings.


hello again shill, aint you coming back over to the other thread.. we miss you.


dont fucking shill me asshole....


Its clear he hates the japanese and he hates the japanese government, but hes quiet happy make himself a guest in our country and make youtube videos everyday dissing the place.If things are so deadly, why hasnt he got the fuck out of Japan?

and your calling me a fucking shill.



I know Alex and he has integrity, intelligence and honesty as his best character traits.
If you'd been following him, carefully, you'd know why YOU are the uniformed one.
Haters are sad.
Don't be one.
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Peace
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04/24/2011 10:59 AM
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measured here in belarus

background normal
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Yep...monitoring her in West Virginia...nothing here either.
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FUKUSHIMA = 2,000 Atomic Bombs
April 22, 2011 posted by Bob Nichols ·
Killer Contamination Spreads Worldwide Without Opposition
(San Francisco) – Radioactive contamination equivalent to the Fukushima, Japan disaster in terms of the hated “Mushroom Cloud” Atomic Bombs is two thousand (2,000) 500 Kiloton Atomic Bombs.* Each 500kt Atomic Bomb is 33 times bigger than the American Bomb that destroyed Hiroshima on August 6, 1945.

Beautiful, eh? France detonated this nuke in the South Pacific 7-3-70 Scientific American Sygma
President G. Bush often referred to the well known “mushroom cloud” as a terrorist signature. Nope, just standard operating procedure (SOP) in the stationary nuclear weapons biz-ness, otherwise known worldwide as “Nuclear Power Reactors.” Except, in the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Weapons, the biggest ever, the “mushroom” portion is invisible and has engulfed the whole world with 70 Billion Radioactive Lethal Doses* – so far. There’s more on the way.
Truly, it is as if the entire world is At War! The dreaded all-out nuclear war that would happen if Russia or the United Stated accidentally “Pressed The Button” is going on right now; it is a done deal. Imagine that! The same thing as detonating 2,000 big Atomic Bombs and not even one “BOOM!” Not a shot fired, yet we could all die!
No giant forest fires, no burning cities creating their own hellish, uncompromising firestorms. None of that; but, every bit of the radioactive contamination such an Atomic World War would create; and probably more. For unbelievably, there are more Japanese reactors about to blow. It’s a chain reaction.

Yea, this is what VeteransToday is talking about, radiation from 2,000 kill-you-dead nukes.
It remains a thinly veiled secret of the nuclear powers that it only takes about 300 One Megaton nukes to target the entire world. Typically, the world’s nuclear weapons arsenals were originally built with a 350 year shelf life for major components. In fact, the radioactive materials are “safer” locked away securely in heavily guarded Atomic Bombs, than in loosely managed reactors run by utility companies for supposedly “peace time” purposes. The worldwide nuclear war we’ve got is not the war we feared.
For now, we all wait and try to avoid the 10 radioactive particles set free for each of us on Earth, from Fukushima’s triggered stationary nuclear weapons. Feel free to figure out how to dodge lethal, airborne particles you can’t see.
So far, the Fukushima disaster for Planet Earth is by no means resolved. The Powers That Be at TEPCO (the Tokyo Electric Power Company) and General Electric, makers of the reactors that created this killer, worldwide, invisible mist, say that they might get a handle on the situation in “six to nine months.[1]”

2,000 of these B-83 Nukes would do the same contamination Fuku has done already. There are more reactors set to blow up.
The seven billion people on Earth don’t have “six to nine months.” Every single day that goes by the radioactive Fukushima Volcano slaughters more of us – silently with deadly radiation now or, years from now, with the inevitable cancer pandemic that will follow.
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Not everyone who is trying to give you serious heart-felt advise is a "little bitch wanting more death and destruction"!!

My grandparents were members of a prominent banking family in Germany when Hitler started his rise to power. While their friends and business partners all felt "nothing could happen to them" because they were too prominent, too connected, too much a part of society and "they wouldn't dare" attack the people and the institutions they represented because of that social prominence, money, and the fact that they were such an integral part of German Society... slowly those families who stuck to that belief and attitude found that their lesser family members started "disappearing" and were being "relocated" and as the days and weeks went on, laws were passed in secret that allowed the seizure of assets, both corporate and private for "the good of the people". If you had amassed wealth, or inherited it, you became a target. Art collections, homes, autos, bank accounts... you name it. And if all they did was seize a persons assets, they counted themselves lucky! Many were arrested and never heard from again - and many of these people were among the very highest levels of German Business and Society.

My grandparents first got some bits of their money out of Germany. My grandmother's jewels sewn into the lining of a spring cloth coat that was packed, not worn, because they were leaving in winter. Furs were packed away in false bottomed cases, and then covered with household linens and dishes - which made the case heavy and the Germans were not interested in grandma's good linen sheets or table cloths or china. Grandpa had gold chargers (large 15" serving plates) made and then enameled dark blue or black. Each one held more than 20 ounces of gold under their phony enamel and because they were nothing by household dishes, they managed to get them out of Germany.

My mother and uncle were sent to relatives in the UK and actually were put in boarding schools there until their mother and father could get out. In time my mother made the journey as Hitler was busy invading France. My grandfather waited and tried to get his parents out of Berlin. His father (my great-grandfather) was accused of concealing a factory he owned from the Nazi's and was arrested. My father stayed trying to get his father out of jail and out of Germany. He sent my great-grandmother to join my mother, uncle, & their mother in the UK.

One day my Grandpa received word that his father was to be sent to one of the camps for "crimes against the nation". Grandfather used his money and influence to grab his father and six or seen other prisoners who were being transported to the camps by private car. He hired mercenaries and they hijacked the cars taking these old men to the camp. Several people were killed but my Great Grandfather made it to safety and got out of Germany and eventually got to join his family in the UK.

My grandpa got out, too. There was a reward offered for his arrest and the Nazi's had orders to kill him on site by that time. Grandpa dressed up as an old peasant woman and walked and rode by a cart of hay until he got near enough the boarder to sneak over and then was picked up and transported to the UK and rejoined his family. Other relatives were not so fortunate. Several great aunts and uncles were never heard from again after their homes were seized.

Much of their property and wealth was simply left behind, never to be seen again. Twenty years after the war some of their art collection turned up at auction in London and they were able to reclaim it after much wrangling thru the courts. But their homes and land and businesses were gone - seized by the Third Riecht never to be seen again.

All the time this took place, the government was reassuring the people of their safety and security. They were told that as soon as the war was won, they would see a new undreamed of prosperity settle on Germany and Bavaria. All lies of course. The Nazi's wanted to keep the wealthiest and most prominent citizens in the country to strip them of their assets and then murder them. And they did manage to do this to thousands and thousands of their own citizens.

The government in Japan is freezing information, lying to their own citizens, and trying to lie to the world to limit their liability for this nuclear meltdown. Japan knows that at some time the world courts are going to make them answer for the negligence that caused the release of massive amounts of radiation into the biosphere. The more of their own citizens they can keep in Japan, the better their chances of siezing their wealth when they succumb to radiation poison.

The smart Jews got out of Germany because they knew the government could not be trusted and would lie to them and anyone else to conceal their real agenda.

Not much different than Japan today where the communication is being cut off, "rumors" are being "controlled" and free speech is a distant memory. The Japanese Government is thrilled to have half their people killed off in this disaster. The more that die, the greater the sympathy of the world, and the more of the deceased estates that will revert to the Japanese government.

USE YOUR HEAD. Your clients, your family, the private schools, etc., can all be replaced. If you have your life you can start over again and you can always make more money. You did it once! You can do so again should the need arise. Look at what is really important. You cannot replace your family, or you lives or the lives of your loved ones.

GET OUT OF JAPAN no matter what the cost. To stay is a death sentenced. And do not trust your government for information or anything else. They are liars and only care about their own perceived best interests as they understand them from moment to moment.

Good luck!



i dont hate the Japanese, in fact im going to be honest with you, take my advice, get out of japan, and come to england!
you are in great danger, and your government is lying to you about it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1353763


You gonna pay my mortgage? my bills? You gonna educate my children because ill have to pull them out of school.
Do you have a place for my family to stay, ill be bringing about 20 odd with me, 3 of them in their 90s.
Im booked with clients till mid August, shall i just refund them all and tell them a dude on the internet told me to be a coward and run from something that frankly doesn't exist.

The prime minister goes on Tv on regular basis and says"hey, we got a level 7 nuclear crisis here", its hardly a fucking lie, is it?

problem is, you little bitches want more death and destruction, 30,000 missing or dead isn't enough for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1353760
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remember when everyone on glp said the gulf oil spill was the end of the world?

lol
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Yep it was an "extinction level event" like that dumbass on youtube was saying "2010thecountdown" the gulf was gonna explode and kill half the united states. "Operation Deep Sleep" or operation deep fail is more like it.

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